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They are also increasingly failing to balance the needs of goldplayers and non gold players. Our co-op has both. I am a gold player - lots of blue on my farm! But this game needs both if it is to remain entertaining and keep me playing (and buying!). Both add value to the game. If the non goldplayers leave because the game has become so unbalanced then it reduces the game play for EVERYBODY! In addition the incessant primedays, new gold decos, and gold advantages actually add absolutely no additional gameplay value at all. I no longer play missions because chicken and egg was removed. Even if this is re-instated now the gold bought fields & gold bought barns that have been added have created such a huge in-balance that the problems with missions have been exacerbated and so it won't work. GG has shown really short sighted thinking and has also lost a lot of good will.
I agree with the others: If you want to change something, change the gourmet farm. Right now it really isn't much different than the main farm, just different stuff. That would be cool. Get creative. But I don't understand why you think you have to shepard people that don't care if they run at +300% costs. The world will always have its nonconformists and idiots. You going to punish their obstinate by making more difficult for the rest of us to play? That's brilliant! Hope you can survive on the fallout (read revenue looses) you will surely suffer. If you're doing it because you think people don't understand the happiness meter, CHANGE THE METER!!! And, I know that some actually will clear all the deco off their farm to be able to put up temp production for a project, then demo the added production and put the deco back afterwards. It's a strategy. If they want to do it, fine, let them. IT's a freakin' strategy game for crying out loud!! Instead of screwing around with the rules, make the game more interesting instead of having three farms that do essentially the same thing. Here's an idea: How about actually using pigs for something other than cash? How about a hide tanning facility that can take the hides and turn it into leather and make stuff out of it to sell. How about selling porkchops and roasts in the restaurant? Or are we so PC that we don't want to insult the vegetarians? But we're okay upsetting everybody else by messing with the happiness points? The game is enjoyable. And I totally understand that as the game matures, a re-balancing is required from time to time to keep everything running smoothly. But when you propose a change like this, you should proceed very, very carefully, because it could be a monumental failure and destroy you.
I see why you may think like you do because of another game. I do not play this other game. But in this other game do they have to tear down their warrior that they spent thousands of dollars on and build him back up again. I bet if they did it might outrage them too. It would outrage me. As i stated before this is not about GGS feeling sorry for the little guy, because they don't. Its not about them balancing it out, because they are not. Its a poor business tactic to gets us to once again spend our money. They noticed that if we take our decorations off our main farm then guess what?, we must not need to buy more decorations. Then it must not be a matter of want and need for us. It is plain and simple here. If GGS wanted to help the little guy out he would give the advantage of buying a great decoration of 200points that no other level can have. there are other ways to balance this out other than punishing the players. I know i have spent more than hundreds of dollars on this game and GGS is going to force me to get rid of things that cost me real money in order to put decorations down that cost more real money. Well now that i refuse to spend money guess that's not going to happen. Maybe i'll just take this massive hit on my farm make very few $$$ on my farm and call it a day. Who knows on that point right now. But what i do know is this, people absolutely have a right to be angry here. If you don't see it then well then i cannot help you. It is our money invested. It is our time, so try to be understanding to that. Other than that for people supporting this or think its a good idea you are about the only ones i cannot wait to see this crap shoot of an idea ola hit your farms. Because i am gonna be laughing my rear off when your crying
I wrote this at page 12 :
First, of course it's about balance. You must admit that mass-production farm is completely ignoring happiness as one key element of this game.
Second, of course it's about business:their income from gold deco
I can't see your farm so i don't know how much damage the update will cost you. I think the most impact come to fancy houses. IF i were GGS, i'd apologize to players for the update. Second, i'll give the gold back to who're demolishing fancy house. Complicated? I have to do it.
What if GGS won't do that? Then sorry, it's up to you. I, myself, won't play this game forever. At the time i quit, surely i'll lose all my real money i used in this game.
Secondly, my US farm is level 108, so I am hardly unaware of the nuts and bolts of gameplay. I also have a level 45 farm on the UK server, so I will experience the changes from both ends of the spectrum, so to speak.
It seems to me generally unwise to complain and threaten before one understands the actual impact, but perhaps getting incensed about a tempest in a teapot is just to the liking of some people.
Lastly, as this is "about voicing an opinion," that is exactly what I did. I am looking forward to the changes and welcome a new challenge to the game. The game was getting stale to me, and I was thinking about abandoning it, but will stick around to see what new things are in store.
If I don't like them, I will again consider leaving, but you may trust that I will not feel the necessity to make public rants about why.
ok jojo your the best
Just I stated I am against the the so called "updates", some of you like them. To each's own!! Jees, don't badmouth the people who are just stating their angry, because nothing is being done to correct the situation. I'm sure the bashers will have something to say about this, but I will only respond back with a kind comment, because I actually have some MANNERS!! Come on people, don't be rude, its very unclassy!!
The problem is I bought books for eggs the max . (any who have done this know how much this costs) I was asked today by a fellow coop member (whom i respect ALOT) why do i have so many chicken coops on my rie22 farm and why I don't demolish them?? OMGOODNESS Demolish? well lets see they are all level 7 which means I had to wait a long time for Archie and I pushed with gold and I paid for the max eggs boosters. So am i upset. You Bet Your Bootie. So when i'm asked why I have so many and I should demolish some. I have this look O.O
I think what GGS wasn't thinking about were all these coops that compete are trying to go the distance. We were on of those coops but we are no longer. Those of us that use the main for projects usually are gold users pushing projects. So if we have to demolish what we use for gold that hurts GGS. So not smart. I don't think they thought this all the way through to the conclusion.
On another note for me as well my life is changing I won't be here forever. I'm getting married I will have a family so I don't see this game in my future. So in that aspect you are very right! I do wish you well! keep posting you are if anything very interesting.
There are many that have spent a fortune on here for some fun & also to interact with ppl...
I have worked my Butt off and am #1 in the APs... pretty much all the work i have done is going to be for nothing as i will be pulling the plug on this game like many many others that have worked hard to get their farms up to a level and to maintain a productive co-op...
This is just the beginning off alot more rip off stunts that GGS are going to do on this game as YES all they see is the profit they can benefit from this site...
This will also be my last post on here as I cant stand anymore underhanded reasons that GGS do what they do...
GoodBye
(Another Unhappy GGS Customer)
No Doubt GGS will delete this post as well... :-(
Not so long ago I had my three farms to -100% and I was proud of it. I invested some of my real money to achieve this. And only then I was able to expand such that I didn't need the decos on the main farm anymore. So on the main farm I have +300% now. Now in a few days this changes to +500% with no time at all to adapt. Am I being forced to sell things now and only get half of the money I put in back? That seems unfair (we get a full return of investment once the gourmet farm changes take place).
And I still have two farms at -100%. But now comes the impossibility to achieve -100%. Why? It was a perfect goal to work to. And once you get there you know you can get the most out of your farm. But now... (yes I know money wise it doesn't change much but psychologically it does!) This really starts to feel as a harassment of the high level players.
Although the explanation Tallen gives us seems plausible at first sight but it is nonsense and not well thought through. What do they really want to achieve?
I agree with many others that a focus on speeding up the other promised advances would be better. And what happened to the fourth farm?
If you want to keep high level players busy invest in that and not in trying to annoy them as much as possible.
Updates are fine, but changing the rules during play and on such short notice is simply rude and inconsiderate. So at least an apology and some compensation would be in order.
this was about deleting farms who had only production buildings (this to put the remark in its context)
I think it really absurd that they even considered it. and i think it a total disrespect of the players
this players did noting wrong and its a totally legitim playing style.....if you really want decos then you must set a minimum for everyone.
interesting to read that this is an update to introduce later a decoration of probably happines above 90 for probably very much gold....which again proves many statements made in these posts about gold and ggs
luckily i am an university graduate in mathematics and know this is complete nonsense
the difference between -99% and -100% in the main farm will be about 10,000 dollar each day if you are a complete day player with 12 cows 6 chicken 6 apple 2 cherry. So for most players it will be far less
so this change never make it more interesting then before to introduce higher hapines decos
And i even not discuse the difference between 99,99 and 100% because there it would be about the same as watering 1 tree lol
so the change is again not make possible what they wanted unless the new formula will change the -100% to -80% or someting...but then the introduction text is misleading cause there lattan say its only a small change for -100% running cost players
BYTHEWAY GGS can hire me to prevent there stupid mistakes in balancing en repairing it. Also i can learn them basic rules of how you treed costumers and make a profit out of that.
so true Ruler! This is why I say the only people I wish this update on are the people so Ye Haw about it!
1. If players don't use decorations for their farms, give them a quest to build x amount of decorations.
2. Give them 3 days gap to see if there is any improvements due to your request as an official quest
3. If they did not build decorations when the 3 days expire, let the workers go on a slow strike - slow production
4. Give another week to build the required decorations and if they still not build decorations, then their workers go on a full strike - no production whatsoever.
5. In this way, nobody who is playing by the rules and workers demand for decoration to reach -100% running costs, the other players have to change their game plan accordingly.
6. The other players with decorations will then not be punished due to the small group that does not use decorations.
7. Maybe GGS can reward the players that play the game by the rules - lots of production and decorations as well. We have to buy the highest HP decorations just to accommodate more production buildings.
This make sense and then nobody can be unhappy and enjoy the game again. Hope you will think about this recommendation so that everybody should be happy again.
If the game is edited with abovementioned suggestions, then the happiness can stay as it is now and a lot of players won't be affected. You have to think of those who play the game by the rules. I spent a lot of gold decorations just to stay at -100% running costs. If you go through with this current update it comes down to that I have wasted my real money to buy gold decorations.
i dont understand why you think its fair to punish people who have no decos? its a perfect legal playing style ..its nowhere written its not allowed
play by the rules,there was no rule saying i couldn't spend my money and time as i see fit for my farm.that is until now changing the rules as they go along is a deceptive way to operate a bus.