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I can see what GGS wants us to do here. They want everyone to buy decorations & use them on our farms. FINE !!! I do that! I maintain a -100% on all 3 farms continually. I have for a very long time. Leaving me with a 0 running cost. I have spent plenty of gold to maintain that balance. Why am I & others like me, being punished for the players that do not want to play with decorations on their farms? That makes NO sense at all!
AND YOU ALL - GGS - KNOW IT TOO!!
There will be peace in the big farm, if you leave us with our 0 running costs. Otherwise... I'm thinking you will loose a LOT of very Happy, Wealthy, game players, just to make the farm workers Happy? Have you all lost your pea pickin minds? BAH!
p.s. all my 3 farms been around -100% from start of game and im not one bit unhappy if it drops to -90% now, cause i had no choice in the old system but to go to +300% and ignore events anyway (cause decos was almost useless). but now i can let that happen gradually instead while enojoying events, keeping and changing some decos, removing some, upgrading stuff to higher lvls and dropping happiness bit by bit till i either stop at -25% happiness, or even go further and go to +500% cause those will be the optimum points of new system.
back to my question
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can you explain some more about the booster adjustment and new icons that you mentioned?
When the Community Manager starts the thread and gives a warning like this, you know it's going to get bad. Not only will it be bad, but they (GGS) acknowledges it in advance. Wow.
This must not be an easy decision, they are admitting defeat in their own game. The mass production farm was never intended by the game makers, so they must be embarrassed.
This update is sour grapes. Ignore our decorations that we pay our art department to develop? We'll fix you.
that is not true, ofc this makes mass production farms earn some less, but if they "really" be mass production farm.
a farm with architect lvl productions or very high lvl productions will still make tons of money without any deco even at 500%. but this means those who after lvl 30 gone to +300% with like 20 lvl 3 cowsheds have to rethink a bit, cause thats not mass production that was just bad formula and abuse of it by players.
Pixie, I apologise if I didn't phrase it correctly - there is no threat, just a heads up that if someone is going about organising a gold purchasing boycott, there can be some serious consequences. I really like this community and I don't want anyone to end up in trouble for doing something like that. I'm sorry that you read my post as a threat - it in no way was meant to be one at all.
Everyone is completely entitled to do with their money as they believe is correct and if that means not purchasing gold, purchasing less of it or even maintaining their regular purchases, then so be it. I'll continue doing what I wish with my own money just like everyone else will so it would be incredibly hypocritical of me to even suggest otherwise.
As for expressing their anger, I've already said in this thread that I do understand where they're coming from. If you'll notice, I've done very little modding of this thread with the exception of removing other games from it, the occasional very off topic post and my post explaining that there can be consequences for organised boycotting of gold purchasing. That's simply because I feel that it's more important for everyone to be able to express how they're feeling at this moment than to worry about double posts and other trivial matters. The forum is after all, the outlet for feedback on the game. I wouldn't have said anything at all about gold boycotting except other members brought it up in the thread.
Hopefully this clears things up Pixie.
Kat.
Did I not spend enough gold to be allowed to build my farm this way? Do the 12 gold bought tractors, 1 trailer, 3 unicorns, 5 playgrounds, 2 duck ponds, 6 pavilions, and 2 tree houses sitting in storage count for nothing? I suppose that I am a terrible person for spending money on a game I have enjoyed and need to be put in my place simply because I have actual farm buildings on my farm and not 50 decorations. Shame on me. Bad Big Bob
your farm will still make good money. the part you dont get about new update is it does not let newbies to make such farms with low lvl buildings anymore, since you already have architect lvl buildings and so on, you will still be earning as good as who have optimized his/her farm at -25% at end game with some deco and less production instead.
p.s. i need to remind you guys that these changes seem to be related to eachother. what I mean?
new gourmet will earn its own dung soon, that means if you make less money at 500% instead of 300%, yet after gourmet revamp since you be needing less dung (for almonds) you can remove some cowshed and fields and make more apples and cherries instead and your money making will be as good as old system. and furthermore itll give you a choice to change your farm in a way that if you want to do master lvl events and enjoy them too or not, cause in old system for old players, any event was useless anyway cause decos had no meaning in end game. do you guys want to not change anything at all anymore in your farms? then why you still play honestly...
First, I like the idea of the new AP achievement expansion. This area of the game seems to reach a point where the “quests” are so large that it takes forever to reach the next level. New challenges – always a great idea.
Second, the clarification of the Prime Days “water tank” will reduce the number of post by new player who didn’t understand and felt “ripped off” when they didn’t get what they thought they should. Again – Clarification is always a good thing.
Third, I really don’t understand the need for the “booster window”. I bought the books, I spent gold to do it, and I know how it affects my production. If someone owns a library book all they have to do is look at the information screen for that book and it will tell them EXACTLY what the benefit is. Seems like a waste of a programmers time and our screen space.
Fourth -- the Happiness changes (sigh). I am one of the players who has worked hard to achieve the -100% on two of my farms and approaching it on the third. This was no easy feat. I do feel that I am being punished by GGS by having my achievement taken away from me for NO GOOD REASON. Every player, regardless of how they run their farm IS playing within the rules of the game. Truthfully, only the upper level players, whom have already maxed out their farms can do this profitably. Chances are that if the fourth farm had been added, no one would have considered this type of farming. This change is detrimental to the happiness of the PLAYERS, real people. Why worry about the “workers”, fictional PIXALS.
Fifth, the appearance of a true responsive appreciation from GGS towards the players seems to be non-existent. While we (the forum users) appreciate the Moderators and other VOLUNTEER members whom help keep us informed, there is a decided lack of interest in the players desires for changes. I understand that you cannot please all people all the time, but a majority should be listened too.
Sixth, although I have no intention of joining a “gold boycott”, it is a time honored tradition of displaying a persons’ displeasure at a untenable situation in order to draw a maximum of attention to the problem. Why would there be any “concequences” to someone whom wishes to protest in this fashion? Why not allow the “boycotting players” (assuming they organize) designate their representative to communicate with representative of GGS to resolve the issues?
And Finally (yes, I am about done), while I understand the desire to maintain secrecy for a NEW product or design, changes to the basic rules of the game should be placed openly in the forum well before the changes are implemented. With this I am speaking directly to the “happiness formula”. As a mid-level player this change may or may not affect my overall play in the game, however I still feel as though I am being punished by losing my achievement, cheated by having spent a lot of time strategizing to reach my goal and disrespected by GGS for assuming that this is a minor change not worthy of advance notice to allow for a change in long term planning.
The question at hand is will GGS listen to the outrage being posted in the game forum, or will it be ignored and allow the remaining players (so many have declared they are done) see what our opinions mean to the company which we support with our hard earned dollars purchasing their product.
Or is it just you moderators who are telling them what is going on here.
Can you please tell them, that I (i think someone else too?) like to have some answers here. People are commenting a lot, that they do not like the update and i was thinking that GGS must give an answer here.
I really like to hear something from GGS. (sorry poor english)
Yes it really makes no difference to me either. I have my happiness pretty high but don't really give the rest of it that much thought. I play this game to relax not to stress myself out. All this change can only stress you out if you let it. For me life is too short to worry about the little things.
GGS staff will not be at work for another 30 mins at least. They are in Germany. Yes they do read the comments and moderators also let staff know along with the links of threads that need immediate attention.
The same goes for suggestions and problems and questions.
I just saw your reply and thank you for clarification
If I could, I would demolish all the worker houses. Then give them the option of commuting to work, or I would just hire someone else now that I have my own airport and harbour to bring in workers! With all those houses gone, I would have even more animals!
LOL
I so agree with you maxiroy - I really think everybody should take a deep breath and reconsider
I will continue to play, and from time to time buy a little gold.
I really don't think that this update is that big a deal
- From many players who have "mass-production farm, no deco" point of view:
I'm very angry!!! This update will cost me much at +500%! GGS cheat us by changing basic rule. It's not fair !!! I've spent so much effort to make this farm fully functional.
- From some players who have bought some gold deco point of view:
In this mission, my 8 chicken coop compete with a player who has 19 chicken coop with no deco. It seems this player never buy gold deco at all. Then, why th* h*ll i spent real money to buy these gold deco if in someday become completely useless ???
- From GGS point of view:
Hmmm...this is not good. Mass production farms begin to spread everywhere and ignoring deco. Our sales of gold deco is declining. Other players will think, what's the need of buying gold deco. They find a away to exploit our basic rule: balancing production and happiness. Focusing on one side will make the other side suffers. Let's do something about this.
Who will "win" ?
Of course we care
Thank you for staying positive
Of course this is an option, but trust me when I say I'd be very sad to see people go over this change. There is so much content coming up this year, lots and lots of stuff for experienced and new players, and it would be a shame if you guys would miss it, since I think you would really, really like it
I.. don't... what?
It really doesn't. Why would we risk this degree of backlash over a substantial feature of the game, "just" because we'd like to sell more gold? There are probably literally hundreds of better ways to do this. This change is only due to exactly two things happening in the game right now:
a) more and more decoration from events etc, and a lot more of that on the horizon
b) (the bigger one): "Industrial farms" that scrap decoration completely, which basically invalidates half of the original game design and was never intended to work as well as it does now.
And following up on that..
We _want_ people to play the way they like to, that's exactly why this change is needed. If you want to play with an industry farm (I'll just call them like that in lack of a better word), you can now do so without completely breaking the balancing of the game. You still will have a massive production boost, and you still will have a way better chance to clear projects or missions. You will only have to pay more Farmdollars to do so, which revalidates an originally invalid way to play.
All right, I hope I didn't miss too much in here.
[Google Translate: These decorationer take such a big area that it becomes difficult to keep up with when assignments are saying ex.bygg a stall till.Då becomes allternativet all set someone / some decoration in the store and then go running cost högre.Så what it has been for allternativ if you want to hang with in the game? Decona have 4x4 is reduced to 3x3 remove the empty boxes.
Hey Gamle,
don't forget that we are always adding in more decoration (and probably decoration with more happiness in the future, too), and more and more features as well, of course. The upcoming changes might have a noticable effect for some players, but I'm sure we will deliver tools to deal with it way better than just adding more land.
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That's worth a lot to me
We're really not trying to annoy you guys on purpose here, but sometimes the game needs to be changed up a bit when certain developements occur that go against the initial structure of the basic game design. This is one of those changes, and we're of course aware that it would cause some anger from players who are (or even aren't) affected by this, and we're really sorry about that. But in the end, it's necessary to keep the game properly balanced and running well.
all GG are after is getting players to buy more and more gold
Oh and by the way you will find that that offer will not come up again same as the +100% offer only once
I agree with most players arguments here
[Translation again: Do as Big Bob3 There must be a farm that supplies goods to an amusement / entertainment escapade.
We'll hope to see many different styles of play, same as before
It would be great though if you could post English in the EN Forums, if possible
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and for ppl who still think they'll be at loss in 500% comparing to 300%, i remind you guys again, use your brain, these updates are related. you will "LESS" need dung from main farm in gourmet farm soon, that means in INDUSTRY FARM, you can make more APPLE/CHERRY ORCHARDS, than DUNG MAKERS AND FIELDS, and that will put you back to same profit as you were earning before at 300%.
but then what's good of this update? it gives us the choice to have DECO FARM, cause till now with happiness system, DECO FARM = stupidity. & only optimum point for earning money was INDUSTRY FARM. which i personally didnt like cause then i see no point why im winning event decos and any other decos anyway if had to get rid of them sooner or later anyway!
hope you guys get back to your senses, this update makes game much more interesting. ppl can choose their optimum happiness point as they want now, with as many deco or non if they want, THIS WASN'T AN OPTION OTHER THAN FOR STUPID PPL BEFORE THIS UPDATE.