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Update 18.03. - Happiness achieved

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  • Slodge (AU1)Slodge (AU1) Posts: 46
    edited 13.03.2014
    Totally 500% AGREE WITH YOU...
    Beaver2 wrote: »
    I have been playing this game for about a year and a half and belong to a co-op of absolutely wonderful people. It is sad that GGS will now mess with something that will be a huge negative for people who play. I don't mind that GGS puts items out there for gold uses (library, some co-op events, etc.), but I do mind when they are going to change the game I enjoy that does not benefit the enjoyment of play.

    I am a gold user and have spent hundreds of dollars on this game because I enjoy it. It took me a while, but I made upgrades using gold to speed up and used gold for decos in order to get achievement points for +2000 decos. In addition, I used gold to make sure that my running costs were -100%. I took pride in keeping it at -100%.

    Now you are telling me that I will not be able to get to -100% even if I spend 5 million dollars to buy gold. That is wrong...that is deceitful...and that is not how you treat the good people who paid you money to play this game.

    I do not care what update GGS will do, it will not make me buy more decos. From now on I will NOT buy anymore gold and I will NOT use my gold for anything besides co-op events. The people in my co-op are very special and I rather spend the gold I have to help with our projects/recruitment instead of decos to a greedy GGS.
  • Foxenas (US1)Foxenas (US1) Posts: 9
    edited 13.03.2014
    CUDOS to developers!!!!! I see you are dead-set to kill this game and, oh boy, you are on the right track...
  • m22m22 Posts: 6
    edited 13.03.2014
    my price is still the same…
  • Dolphin (AU1)Dolphin (AU1) AU1 Posts: 117
    edited 13.03.2014
    Well I have read through everything here and so many amazing players are going to leave this game because of this update.
    So people are at +300%, I couldn't care less. Do you really think it is a smart thing that you are now looking at losing all your gold buyers? Yeah, do your update, lose your big gold buyers and then where is your money going to come from?
    I am still in the -% and a gold buyer, however you will see that a lot of players will stop buying their gold and that includes me. I honestly do not see the point of this update. 28 decorations on your farm is obviously not enough we need more and more decorations to keep the happiness at a decent level so in the end you will be lucky to have 1 of each production facility on your farm because you need so many decorations to get yourself to almost -100% (because you cant have -100% anymore). Why do you keep changing the rules of the game?
  • Windy LynnWindy Lynn Posts: 9
    edited 13.03.2014
    Way to go GGS - you have just become like all the others. Greed has taken over and you don't care how your actual customers feel, it's all about the money! As indicated in Latten's response to Tyler...

    We're not taking it away Regular players will hardly notice any differences (but those of us who aren't "REGULAR" players will be punished), at least that's how it's planned. This is mainly concerning some players who run their farms with -100% happiness, without having to fear any consequences for doing so - this is not at all what the game is supposed to be (because that's what you say - thought it was to run our farm as efficiently as possible).

    Of course this still is a viable way to play, but it will be more expensive now (more money in your pocket provided we continue to play), so players will have to decide if the huge production boost is worth the money that might be earned with more decorations.

    No, what players will need to decide is just exactly when they will quit playing the game.

    The day this is implemented I will donate what gold I have left and what $$'s I have to the co-op and I will go find me another game. I have spent my share of "real" cash on here but will no longer spend even one penny.

    Way to go GGS - Greed is going to lose you your older players and the younger ones as they learn what you've done.

    I'm gone!
  • pixie2me2pixie2me2 Posts: 83
    edited 13.03.2014
    TSK…TSK… TSK…
    GGS what are you thinking?
    I guess we have been a BETA GAME since inception haven’t we?
    Those of us who came in at the beginning have paved the way in GOLD for every change that has been made.
    POKER, is another game of GGS and there is a little gambling within BIGFARM such as Spin the Wheel or Mystery Box which just enhances the addiction process – doesn’t it.
    But, GAMBLING WITH OUR GOLD TO CHANGE THE GOAL POST oops should I say GOLD POSTS is arrogant at the least and foolhardy at the best.
    Everyone likes changes that enhance a game, but not at the expense of spending hard earned gold and then watching that gold be flushed down the proverbial toilet at the whim of a developer’s key stroke.
    That is where the angst is coming from – that GGS does not care that we are losing valuable money we have placed into this game with some of these changes.
    And please kids, I know you love to post how much you love, love, love every change –please allow those that spend THE BIG BUCKS to voice our view because its cost us a lot of $$$$$.
    I don’t want to see another good player leave this game because GGS seems to have an attitude of well we lose a couple we gain more, but bad press will only negate any short term wins.
    GGS think again before changing the GOLD POSTS when you cost your players their hard earned cash and maybe just maybe concentrate on building the new areas where we have yet to “purchase”.
  • Windy LynnWindy Lynn Posts: 9
    edited 13.03.2014
    If you look real close at 'Latten's' post, he is blaming this update on us.

    He clearly states, "Workers on some farms have informed us that they are not happy about the fact that they don't get a lot of decorations to look at anymore and that all their attempts to get you to put up more decos by increasing production costs seems to have failed."

    So what this says is that he and those like him who work on these upgrades don't like the fact that some of our farms don't have the décor on it and they have tried numerous ways to try and change that. So it's because HE'S not happy and those who work with him aren't happy.

    Yup - just reinforces my decision - I will be gone!
  • Fran4 (GB1)Fran4 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 50
    edited 13.03.2014
    Well said Pixie, totally agree with you I spend BIG BUCKS too but no more, GG you have had the last of my hard earned cash. I will play with what I have but no more you have kicked me for the very last time.

    Fran4 ranked 2 in EN
    No 1 Coop EN server and EX-MEGA BIG BUCK spender
  • pizza1235pizza1235 Posts: 36
    edited 13.03.2014
    i am happy abut the new achivments.thanks ggs.i am alo happy about the update even if u have -100 u will still have a pretty high happiness and wot affect u to much. thank ggs for the update:D
  • m22m22 Posts: 6
    edited 13.03.2014
    pixie2me2 can u please pm other coop liders on your server so we all can kick some@£$…thats what we are doing ….
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    edited 14.03.2014
    Hang on, let me gets this straight.....the 500% happiness update is going to be introduced because mass production without decos on main farm is not the way the game is meant to be played? Is this because players in missions and coops running main farm like this have a big advantage?

    How is mass production any different from giving players blue barns and letting them gold skip production as many times as they want to? Still a big advantage, still allows players to climb the ranks faster......only difference is GGS make money because people need to buy lots of gold to maintain that strategy. If "fairness" is the reason for bringing in the update then gold skipping and blue barns should also be removed, if not just leave happiness levels as they are!
  • gyodafgyodaf Posts: 55
    edited 14.03.2014
    I was thinking to suggest GGS to make it about +600%. It's not fair for players who have decent deco to compete with players who have no deco at all. I've seen 19 chicken coops, no deco. If someone push production so hard, he must pay very much dollars as compensation. If not so, what's the purpose of expensive gold deco players have for??

    But I do not agree with -100% change. GGS, you should not touch it, let it be actual -100% as it is. Players who spend real money to get -100% deserve it.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 14.03.2014
    gizmo222 wrote: »
    How is mass production any different from giving players blue barns and letting them gold skip production as many times as they want to? Still a big advantage, still allows players to climb the ranks faster......only difference is GGS make money because people need to buy lots of gold to maintain that strategy. If "fairness" is the reason for bringing in the update then gold skipping and blue barns should also be removed, if not just leave happiness levels as they are!

    I like this.

    Haha I just realized that the name of the update is "Happiness Achieved", which is pretty hilarious because this discussion has been achieving everything EXCEPT happiness. :P
  • Slodge (AU1)Slodge (AU1) Posts: 46
    edited 14.03.2014
    Well said Pix I definitely think its time to find a new game... I lost interest in the missions when GGS buggered that up... they still haven't fixed that even after all the hype about that ( JUST MONEY HUNGRY NOW ) they have lost me I have just 1 more AP level 10 to do with exception of the farm $ ones then I'm gone ( ALL THE FUN IS GONE NOW )
    pixie2me2 wrote: »
    TSK…TSK… TSK…
    GGS what are you thinking?
    I guess we have been a BETA GAME since inception haven’t we?
    Those of us who came in at the beginning have paved the way in GOLD for every change that has been made.
    POKER, is another game of GGS and there is a little gambling within BIGFARM such as Spin the Wheel or Mystery Box which just enhances the addiction process – doesn’t it.
    But, GAMBLING WITH OUR GOLD TO CHANGE THE GOAL POST oops should I say GOLD POSTS is arrogant at the least and foolhardy at the best.
    Everyone likes changes that enhance a game, but not at the expense of spending hard earned gold and then watching that gold be flushed down the proverbial toilet at the whim of a developer’s key stroke.
    That is where the angst is coming from – that GGS does not care that we are losing valuable money we have placed into this game with some of these changes.
    And please kids, I know you love to post how much you love, love, love every change –please allow those that spend THE BIG BUCKS to voice our view because its cost us a lot of $$$$$.
    I don’t want to see another good player leave this game because GGS seems to have an attitude of well we lose a couple we gain more, but bad press will only negate any short term wins.
    GGS think again before changing the GOLD POSTS when you cost your players their hard earned cash and maybe just maybe concentrate on building the new areas where we have yet to “purchase”.
  • Aura1PlayerAura1Player Posts: 84
    edited 14.03.2014
    I do believe in the importance of communication,I totally disagree with the quitting version ;I am not going to quit,because the GGS has treated me very poorly,regarding the Happiness update,Iam going to use these has a challenge to make myself feel better cause i will be able to win it.
    Iam going to show the GGS that there will be other strategies for the game,and i will use them.
    Iam a newbie in these game,but thats not what matters ,what is important for me is to show myself that Iam capable of expressing my believes,use my freedom of speech and that iam able to overcome all the challenges that cross my life,with fun,with friends,with pets,peace and joy.
    Hope you all have a wonderfull end of the day.
  • Instant Ocean (US1)Instant Ocean (US1) US1 Posts: 189
    edited 14.03.2014
    Are you guys really trying to have all members RAGE QUIT? Because if not, you are surely doing everything you can to have that happen. WTH is that about changing happiness and not being able to reach 100% anymore? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever come across in this game... well not really, but nevertheless, how the hell could you come up with such an inept concept? It makes no sense. You have a formula to calculate happiness vs decos placed on farms. Now you tell us that you can run as low as 500% + but will NEVER be able to achieve -100%.

    This is so off the wall... I am speechless. You guys made a lot of new GOLD buildings to give us more room to have not only more production units but also decos to compensate and now you are taking that away? What about all of us that invested gold in order to achieve -100% and will now suffer your "upgrade"?

    What will be the max happiness level one can achieve?

    Gawd, you guys are so out of ideas... instead of creating more GIMMICKS for on us to spend gold, why don't you take care of the following bugs that have yet to be fixed:

    - Blurred fields
    - Shaking buildings
    - When you open chat full window, DUH, the cursor doesn't automatically go in the chat line

    and I could go on and on...

    STOP PLEASE! Correct what you have, and then proceed with actual improvements, not some absurd story about our workers not being happy about decos that they miss now.

    Sorry, but you guys are really making this game worse as you go along... No wonder the player base is dropping.

    Instant Ocean
    Leader of Funny Times
  • Marie_07 (GR1)Marie_07 (GR1) Posts: 24
    edited 14.03.2014
    I just read the announcement and I am a bit confused. The change regarding happiness is justified by the fact that there is a certain number of players that run their farms at max cost, i.e. with no decos at all. Since, for some reason you don't wish that to happen you will change the limit from +300 to +500. Suppose, I understand why you do this change, what I don't understand is why the -100 should be affected. The announcement doesn't explain anything regarding this change.
    Besides, if we take it down to financial issues the two barriers should be equal. If you set it to +500 you should also put it to -500. Considering the fact that in order to get to a minus percentage we have made a lot of investments in decos, operational upgrades, etc all this should pay-off somehow (ROI). I know it's a game and we'll not get a -500 but at least we should be able to keep the -100% at least until we get a solid reasoning justifying this change.
  • Bourletta (US1)Bourletta (US1) Posts: 35
    edited 14.03.2014
    Latten wrote: »
    We're not taking it away :) Regular players will hardly notice any differences, at least that's how it's planned. This is mainly concerning some players who run their farms with +300% production costs (0 happiness), without having to fear any consequences for doing so - this is not at all what the game is supposed to be :)

    Of course this still is a viable way to play, but it will be more expensive now, so players will have to decide if the huge production boost is worth the money that might be earned with more decorations.

    How can you tell players that have worked to achieve -100% happiness on their farms that they will barely notice the change, if I no longer have -100% happiness I think it is something I will notice, don't you think? We invest in this game and it seems that the more we invest the more the updates are disturbing. How about fixing bugs that exist and that need fixing instead of changing a game that the players enjoy as it is ?

    Just don't get it...

    Bourletta
  • tracy o (US1)tracy o (US1) US1 Posts: 8
    edited 14.03.2014
    I would have been a happy player last year if the 4th farm was started like big farm said it would . I planned my farms to their rules only to have them change the rules before the ink is dry . My farms are at - 100 % like they said was best . To keep it simple I am not impressed and will not recommend this game .
  • pixie2me2pixie2me2 Posts: 83
    edited 14.03.2014
    Its definitely a sad day :(
  • Together2Together2 Posts: 1
    edited 14.03.2014
    This is pure monetizing!!!
    You are f... The game, what you can well do, as it is your game.
    But don't expect good results from that.
  • Slodge (AU1)Slodge (AU1) Posts: 46
    edited 14.03.2014
    LOOKs Like its time for me to go back too playing on alternative game removed least I have a chance to win real money with my money.... MASSIVE TUTTTTTTTTTT GGS Bloody STUPID If you ask me....


    Post edited by Kat Nip
  • edited 14.03.2014
    Reading between the lines, now I know why Farmer Tess has stepped down from being a screwed over, unpaid Moderator for the Greedy Gold-grabbing Sods. It cost me a lot of real money and real time to get my Main farm to where it now is: a Level 95 "Maximum Production" farm with -300% happiness. Now they move the gold posts (as Pixie has so aptly dubbed them) yet again just because some of us have worked out a favourable strategy that is within the CURRENT rules. If the strategy had something to do with spending swags of gold then nothing would be changed, would it?

    I have returned to the game only to leave yet again... this time PERMANENTLY. Recently when I left it, I thought I might return, so I didn't tell them to get rid of the farms. When Columbus arrived in the New World, he burned his ships so that there was no going back and so that the crews of the ships would be committed to his decision.

    It is now time to burn my ships. Farewell everyone. I wish GGS well with their 500% empty room. I was here again temporarily... but now I will never be here again.... if anyone asks, that is....
  • Slodge (AU1)Slodge (AU1) Posts: 46
    edited 14.03.2014
    NOT far behind you m8... ;-)
  • edited 14.03.2014
    You beauty! Let's go fishing!
  • Slodge (AU1)Slodge (AU1) Posts: 46
    edited 14.03.2014
    PMSL i have been m8....
    You beauty! Let's go fishing!
  • Rusty Farmer (AU1)Rusty Farmer (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,705
    edited 14.03.2014
    OK, so first of all let's all calm down and think about this logically. There are too many people here itchy with the exit button due to a knee jerk overreaction.

    My first instinct, even at +500%, is we can still run work farms. The main farm will run at a loss, but the other farms will more than compensate, even though the profit will be less overall.

    A further loss of profit will occur when the gourmet farm is revamped; until this is built up again, the flower farm will be the main source of income. The $730,000 for honey cream every 7 hours ought to be enough surely. :)

    With the happiness change, it may take longer before a player is ready to take the step to jump to a work farm for sure, but it can still be done.

    Many of us who run work farms also have a huge wad of cash (I have 283M and rising) at our disposal. Therefore we can endure a certain amount of loss if this is what happens initially.

    Is this one of GGS's better ideas? No, not really, but I think we can live with it. Let's see how it pans out for a few days before we do something we might later regret.

    Excuse me now while I go attend to my 18 chicken coops in order to help finish Egg Scramble. :)
  • tampoon (INT1)tampoon (INT1) Posts: 197
    edited 14.03.2014
    I have been trying to maintain -100% in 3 farms by NOT building up all production facilities. Why should someone with more production but less happiness be rewarded but someone who have tried to maintain -100% be penalised? That is not fair to those who have been trying hard to maintain -100%.
  • nonon82nonon82 Posts: 22
    edited 14.03.2014
    Latten wrote: »
    This is mainly concerning some players who run their farms with +300% production costs (0 happiness), without having to fear any consequences for doing so - this is not at all what the game is supposed to be :)

    This is not at all what the game is supposed to be

    I can't believe you actually came out and said it. Surely you want to maintain at least the illusion of choice? Let us think that we choose how we play. This game is already on rails for the most part. Why can't I build 6 barns, or 4 mills on my farm if I choose to use my space that way? Because you don't like it?

    The +300% prodn cost players are your elite gaming customers. They don't conform to your model and I understand why you do not like this style of play, but there are more subtle ways to influence them. This kind of clumsy heavy-handedness shows a lack respect. And you know it.

    GOAL POSTS MOVED! You guys set the rules and we put in the time, effort and cash to get the best result we can, based on your rules. Then you change the rules and we get angry. You knew we'd be angry. You also know that most of us will suck it up and keep playing, for a while anyway. But please don't forget, we are still angry. When you sit there in your meetings, ranking "improvement" ideas and planning to gouge more cash from your loyal customers, you should know - WE ARE ANGRY AND GETTING ANGRIER.

    You can put in all the new achievements you like - the top players don't care about them. In any case, there is very little motivation to complete them since the rewards were drastically reduced a few months ago. (Very petty move on your part GGS, very petty!) And it won't prevent us from GETTING ANGRY
  • pizza1235pizza1235 Posts: 36
    edited 14.03.2014
    i think this update is great altho some people disagree
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