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The Library

lilchik703lilchik703 Posts: 23
edited 26.09.2015 in Most Discussed Topics
This is coming from a gold user:
This update is a joke, and I feel like GGS is focusing on more ways to taunt us with using and buying gold instead of making the game fun. Why don't you take all this hard work and focus on the 4th farm you've been showing for MONTHS now? I'm mad, honestly. Every week I get all excited for the new update, today I stayed up waiting for it (it is 4:45am). I should have read more on it and known that it was gold only, but I wanted to be surprised. Who in their right might would pay 450 gold for 3 more extra corn every time they harvest? So disappointed.

Edit: So after re-reading this I've realized I did not get the right point across, I blame anger and lack of sleep. So this is what I was trying to say in a nutshell: I think GGS needs to stop focusing on new updates, and focus on things that are already out, or that have been promised. Like more projects and the 4th farm. All this time and energy spent could have gone to these things. New stuff should come later. I did appreciate the dog, and the new events are awesome because they include everyone. But I think it's way overdue to produce the 4th farm for us. As far as the library, I think the first level should have been cash, second level 490 gold, and the rest either 490 or just a bit more. 5900 gold for level 2 apples is insane. That is all.
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  • lilchik703lilchik703 Posts: 23
    edited 11.12.2013
    wonderful. I just bought milk to help my coop and apples for more money, the next upgrade for level 2 if 5900 gold for apples and 2500 gold for milk. JOKE
  • xxx562xxx562 Posts: 24
    edited 11.12.2013
    Not something I will be using.
  • JOYCEGamer12JOYCEGamer12 Posts: 15
    edited 11.12.2013
    I'm sure Germany probably does need all this gold they're trying to get money from us for, but hey, if you can't make a game that is reasonable then find another way to make your money. Get off all this gold crap. This so-called game is going from a Game to a monopoly.
  • momoma (GB1)momoma (GB1) Posts: 29
    edited 11.12.2013
    Oh, you won't milk up the gold from us that easy :)! You have to be more creative and satisfy our brain cells! Please, think up something more interesting!
  • aavvkk (IN1)aavvkk (IN1) Posts: 17
    edited 11.12.2013
    it makes playing the game no more fun. the whole idea is just spend gold and u can be up at level 50 in 3 4 days

    goodgame studios wants to lose its regular farmers.

    THIS IS A USELESS UPDATE AND IS AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME OF WORKING HARD

    REMOVE IT
  • ezio auditore3ezio auditore3 Posts: 2,399
    edited 11.12.2013
    There's no need to quit or any thing like that. If you don't want to use it just ignore it and let the people who want it, have it :)
  • urmum77 (US1)urmum77 (US1) Posts: 17
    edited 11.12.2013
    aavvkk wrote: »
    it makes playing the game no more fun. the whole idea is just spend gold and u can be up at level 50 in 3 4 days

    goodgame studios wants to lose its regular farmers.

    THIS IS A USELESS UPDATE AND IS AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME OF WORKING HARD

    REMOVE IT

    Strongly agree with you and everyone else in the thread. This is taking Pay2Win a bit far eh ? This is getting very typical of most free2play games they get lazy and just add stuff you might buy because you are really bored...Or you might get a small stat bonus so buy it now !

    Worst case scenario buy it now or you cannot compete with pay players at all. Thx I won't buy it and will continue to play and try to have fun :) I also won't spend another dime on the game ever again :P
  • Kat Nip (GB1)Kat Nip (GB1) GB1 Posts: 3,796
    edited 11.12.2013
    I'm sure Germany probably does need all this gold they're trying to get money from us for, but hey, if you can't make a game that is reasonable then find another way to make your money. Get off all this gold crap. This so-called game is going from a Game to a monopoly.
    Joyce, gold is what keeps this game running. You don't need to purchase any if you don't wish and continue looking after your farm without any built in gold limits, which is actually something that most games don't allow you to do.

    As for my opinion on this update - I like it. I've brought books already and I'll continue buying them as the need arises for me. I rarely used the Staff when they existed because in my opinion, it was a lot of gold for only 5 days of use. Now with the library, it's permanent so anything you buy, you've got for the lifetime of your farm.

    The idea of the library is as an alternative for the Staff that we used to have - which have gone now because of the problems that used to arise from them. That's why the books are gold orientated. No one has to buy books if they don't want to, and there is still the option to increase the selling price of all the produce on the main farm anyway by research within your cooperative.

    Kat. Kittie_by_otomosc.gif
  • Nana9PlayerNana9Player Posts: 1
    edited 11.12.2013
    I agree with the majority here registered post - this has become a game for the rich! ?(

    It is not fair to the loyal players who sit for hours and wait for crops

    Give us something more fun and lively not colorful lies only in the thumbnail. in this global crisis instead of entertainment us - require additional costs.!!!
    i think stop to play this game for this reason :(
  • aavvkk (IN1)aavvkk (IN1) Posts: 17
    edited 11.12.2013
    it makes the idea of competing jut not worth it. the skill the patience is all gone. You have overnight created a divide between the haves and the have nots.
  • Kat Nip (GB1)Kat Nip (GB1) GB1 Posts: 3,796
    edited 11.12.2013
    I don't understand how this is any different to the Staff that were available previously - they were there as an option from the very beginning of the game. The library is just a replacement for them.

    Kat. Kittie_by_otomosc.gif
  • momoma (GB1)momoma (GB1) Posts: 29
    edited 11.12.2013
    OK! For those who obviously doesn't understand what the fair play is! I buy gold regularly becaause I appreciate the work of the programers. But, I won't to have an advantage over other players just because I have more cash! Therefore I use it mainly for researches and tasks and very rarely to treat myself.To help others is more important to me!
  • Mika5PlayerMika5Player Posts: 1
    edited 11.12.2013
    Why bother the players - how things are the rich will play

    I found this game to a free offer!
    What is this - are loaded puppy - useless
    Now we have an overview Stock neatly stacked books that we have to buy at least been interesting accompanying coop - or not go to the top

    Give Abolish repair impression - opening up the possibility of buying dollars - if it were a large amount
  • momoma (GB1)momoma (GB1) Posts: 29
    edited 11.12.2013
    This library thing should not be permanent at all !!! We land books from the library!!! It should be PUBLIC library where we all, rich and poor can "quench our thirst for knowledge"!
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    edited 11.12.2013
    490 gold for 3 extra corn? Really? Thats the update? I can get 3 extra corn just by sitting around and clicking worker bubbles for 5 minutes, or get extra corn by upgrading a field. It cheapens the field upgrades and humus applications and once again will make missions unfair when it comes to collecting produce from your farms. The gold buyers using these books will always have an advantage and makes the planned mission overhauls a bit pointless because of this.
  • dragonpridedragonpride Posts: 574
    edited 11.12.2013
    as a gold buyer ive always been one to defend the fact that ggs needs gold to pay the bills and keep the game alive but i have noticed they seem to be getting a greedy side lately.with the blue barn,raising prices on water tower and workshop,that useless mine,these ridiculously expensive books and many other examples,ggs seems to be focusing primarily on gold use rather than the 50 50 standard.im also a supporter of the "dont like dont buy" rule but it seems like week after week is just waiting for something better to happen.
  • connerk2connerk2 Posts: 177
    edited 11.12.2013
    So, it'd be nice to have that *coming soon* actually mean something.
    The 4th farm has been coming soon since I joined.
    Instead, the game developers have been focusing their efforts on new ways to entice people to spend gold.

    Has the focus shifted from building and developing farms to let's see who will spend the most money to play?

    Will that focus sustain the game for a 3d year?

    Just a suggestion: Scrap the library, refund the gold and try again. BTW, I do buy gold on a regular basis. This library, is an unwanted "update" in my view. It destroys the integrity of the game.
  • xxx562xxx562 Posts: 24
    edited 11.12.2013
    For those of us that do not wish and or will not use..............We should have the option to demolish or opt out.
  • rishi4rishi4 Posts: 156
    edited 11.12.2013
    I think the update itself is a good idea, as it replies the staff which weren't really used that much. However i somewhat agree with the attitude of players towards it being gold orientated. I think it would have been ideal, if they wanted to make it all gold bought, then allow the first level to be bought with normal cash. That way some people would be able to benefit without using gold similar to that of the doghouse. :)
  • musicdoc (US1)musicdoc (US1) US1 Posts: 43
    edited 11.12.2013
    As player and cooperative founder/leader, I find this update to be misguided. Already three players in our cooperative have decided to stop playing this game in favor of your competitor FarmVille. The option to allow players to dramatically increase production by spending hundreds of real life dollars in gold wipes out the possibility of fair mission competitions. Is the next planned step going to be eliminating the game dollars option for buying land? You have the opportunity to save this by offering a slower but possible route for players who cannot afford the gold. We are all waiting to see if you have a commitment to the Big Farm game experience and its community that goes beyond your short term bottom line concerns.

    musicdoc
    Founder/Leader, Happy Co-op
  • Pameow (AU1)Pameow (AU1) AU1 Posts: 266
    edited 11.12.2013
    There's no need to quit or any thing like that. If you don't want to use it just ignore it and let the people who want it, have it :)

    Its a bit difficult to ignore something that is so large, that takes up so much space, and there is no way to not look at it. At least the previous staff method was discreet. The library yells out the difference between the haves and the have nots. Its placement next to the useless mine is just the perfect joke.
  • River VlodovicRiver Vlodovic Posts: 9
    edited 11.12.2013
    I completely agree with all the ones who say what a rip off this new "option" bring to the game. There is no longer an ability to fairly do missions when some people will be simply "paying off" the judge with bribes. I realize Good Game is all about money, but I believe it will see a loss in revenue as many good strong gold players move over to FaceBook farm game where they can play, interact with other peoples farm to benefit themselves as well as their neighbors and need to pay very little if any real life cash to function and enjoy. So disappointed.
  • short79short79 Posts: 174
    edited 11.12.2013
    lilchik703 wrote: »
    This is coming from a gold user:
    This update is a joke, and I feel like GGS is focusing on more ways to taunt us with using and buying gold instead of making the game fun. Why don't you take all this hard work and focus on the 4th farm you've been showing for MONTHS now? I'm mad, honestly. Every week I get all excited for the new update, today I stayed up waiting for it (it is 4:45am). I should have read more on it and known that it was gold only, but I wanted to be surprised. Who in their right might would pay 450 gold for 3 more extra corn every time they harvest? So disappointed.

    I suppose every update is suppose to wow and inspire awe every single time? And you mention that every week you get excited about the new update. Am I to understand that the previous updates over the past several weeks have failed to ignite nothing more then bitter disappointment? Then why on earth do you keep playing? However, if the doghouse and new upgrade levels, the various new events have all serve to please you then the developers have indeed made the game more fun after all. Just because an update here and there isn't all diamonds and glitter shouldn't mean that the quality of the game is lessened. And if they choose to introduce something that promotes gold purchase then so be it. This might come as a shock to you but developing games COSTS money and lots of it!
    I continue to be baffled by the sheer number of people who are offended by a game, that is free to play, can continued to be played successfully for free but does offer specialty items and benefits at a real price cost. And these extras, mind you do not affect your continued gaming. Not to mention, the players who are wiling to buy are in fact, very essential in keeping this game available to play. Sure you may not get the top of the line decos and will have to exercise a good deal of patience but the game is fully playable without. And even for those who do use gold, such as yourself there will be different reasons for different players to buy and spend gold. Just because the devs have offered an update that doesn't match your specific idea of fun, doesn't mean it will be the same for other players. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if players using this feature are plentiful.
    And this feeling that "GGS is focusing on more ways to taunt us with using and buying gold instead of making the game fun"? Just sounds incredibly foolish to me because if a game is not fun, there would be no players and I am not seeing a widespread abandonment of Big Farm. Instead it keeps bring in new players all the time. As for taunting, please! Taunting is an action in which something is kept just out of reach, usually in order to force a desired reaction. If GGS were to allow players only a certain amount of advancement before the game came to a halt, requiring a gold purchase or membership to be able to continue, perhaps taunt might be accurate. But that is just not the case here.
    It is very simple. It costs millions of dollars to provide this "free to play" game. However, Big Farm has it's share of players who like to purchase and spend gold which is a very good thing because spending millions developing versus free to play doesn't exactly balance out. And any game developing company would be a fool not to provide these players with different, interesting and useful ways to spend their in game currency. It is quite necessary for the devs to offer features that will generates sales, thus earning an income to ensure the continuation of this much enjoyed game, which would otherwise fade away into nothingness as a result of bankruptcy!
    Maybe you could discuss a feature that was fun for you. Instead of talking down something that is standard, for every single last business, of any kind, anywhere. Encouraging the sale of their product. And I would think it obvious that there is enough clientele to make it worth GGS time to develop this update.
  • short79short79 Posts: 174
    edited 11.12.2013
    xxx562 wrote: »
    Not something I will be using.

    Same here. But a big "thank you" to those who will!
  • momoma (GB1)momoma (GB1) Posts: 29
    edited 11.12.2013
    short79 wrote: »
    I suppose every update is suppose to wow and inspire awe every single time? And you mention that every week you get excited about the new update. Am I to understand that the previous updates over the past several weeks have failed to ignite nothing more then bitter disappointment? Then why on earth do you keep playing? However, if the doghouse and new upgrade levels, the various new events have all serve to please you then the developers have indeed made the game more fun after all. Just because an update here and there isn't all diamonds and glitter shouldn't mean that the quality of the game is lessened. And if they choose to introduce something that promotes gold purchase then so be it. This might come as a shock to you but developing games COSTS money and lots of it!
    I continue to be baffled by the sheer number of people who are offended by a game, that is free to play, can continued to be played successfully for free but does offer specialty items and benefits at a real price cost. And these extras, mind you do not affect your continued gaming. Not to mention, the players who are wiling to buy are in fact, very essential in keeping this game available to play. Sure you may not get the top of the line decos and will have to exercise a good deal of patience but the game is fully playable without. And even for those who do use gold, such as yourself there will be different reasons for different players to buy and spend gold. Just because the devs have offered an update that doesn't match your specific idea of fun, doesn't mean it will be the same for other players. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if players using this feature are plentiful.
    And this feeling that "GGS is focusing on more ways to taunt us with using and buying gold instead of making the game fun"? Just sounds incredibly foolish to me because if a game is not fun, there would be no players and I am not seeing a widespread abandonment of Big Farm. Instead it keeps bring in new players all the time. As for taunting, please! Taunting is an action in which something is kept just out of reach, usually in order to force a desired reaction. If GGS were to allow players only a certain amount of advancement before the game came to a halt, requiring a gold purchase or membership to be able to continue, perhaps taunt might be accurate. But that is just not the case here.
    It is very simple. It costs millions of dollars to provide this "free to play" game. However, Big Farm has it's share of players who like to purchase and spend gold which is a very good thing because spending millions developing versus free to play doesn't exactly balance out. And any game developing company would be a fool not to provide these players with different, interesting and useful ways to spend their in game currency. It is quite necessary for the devs to offer features that will generates sales, thus earning an income to ensure the continuation of this much enjoyed game, which would otherwise fade away into nothingness as a result of bankruptcy!
    Maybe you could discuss a feature that was fun for you. Instead of talking down something that is standard, for every single last business, of any kind, anywhere. Encouraging the sale of their product. And I would think it obvious that there is enough clientele to make it worth GGS time to develop this update.

    Game, game, game...
    Do you really understand the essence of the meaning... The game should be fair, honest... We should use more of our intelligence in it...
  • Lilypaddle (INT1)Lilypaddle (INT1) Posts: 614
    edited 11.12.2013
    I personally don't know why people are upset, you had to buy staff with gold anyways. I mean you don't have use the library just like didn't have to use the staff.
  • short79short79 Posts: 174
    edited 11.12.2013
    I'm sure Germany probably does need all this gold they're trying to get money from us for, but hey, if you can't make a game that is reasonable then find another way to make your money. Get off all this gold crap. This so-called game is going from a Game to a monopoly.

    What is unreasonable is thinking that a game developing company should put in a multitude of hours of their time, hard work and dedication into an ever changing, worldwide online game and not get rightfully paid for what they provide. So how about you get off all this "trying to get money from us" stuff, and explain why you are playing this "so-called" game that you deem not reasonable! "find another way to make your money"? Seriously? That would be like expecting movie actors to act in a movie without viewers paying to watch it, and then those actors work in customer service to make money. Maybe I'm wrong but that just sounds like blatant ignorance....
  • amaprincess1 (US1)amaprincess1 (US1) Posts: 636
    edited 11.12.2013
    Very cool idea, very uncool delivery. Seriously, what an intelligence insult.
  • monica79538monica79538 Posts: 1,932
    edited 11.12.2013
    I would NEVER have bought gold for staff that would leave after 5 days. The books cost half as much and don't expire. AND they can be upgraded too. This is an update that does cost gold, but low enough that I think i can almost afford it. ;)
  • Kat Nip (GB1)Kat Nip (GB1) GB1 Posts: 3,796
    edited 11.12.2013
    It continually amazes me that people always call GGS greedy because they offer opportunities for gold buyers. It's the purchase of gold that keeps this game running for everyone, even those that can't or won't buy gold themselves.

    I've said this before, but I think it's worth repeating... the reality is, GGS gives out more free gold than I've known any other game to do. We get free gold every 4th (and often 5th) log in of the 5 day cycle. We're also given gold every time we level up, along with gold rewards for some quests. Add to that the opportunity to earn 2000 gold free by simply upgrading your gold mine (with farm dollars no less) and the opportunity to win a gold mining license for another free 2000 gold in Monty's wheel.

    Speaking of the Wheel of Fortune, everyone has the opportunity to participate in that regardless of if you buy gold or not as we're all given a token every visit and if you're lucky, you can find another one working your farm. Save your tokens up and you can get the bonus spin where you not only get the chance to win the gold mining license, but limited edition seeds and decorations.

    Then there's the Theme Events which gives everyone the chance to earn decorations that have a higher happiness value to them than the most expensive gold decoration has.

    Personally, I'm very thankful for all that we have and while a lot of you aren't happy about this, you still have the option of not purchasing the books if you don't wish - it's not going to stunt your game at all.

    Please keep in mind, this concept was already built into the game from day one in the form of Staff for hire. The only difference now is that it has a different presentation - and hopefully none of the bugs that the previous Staff had.
    oljah2 wrote: »
    OK! For those who obviously doesn't understand what the fair play is! I buy gold regularly becaause I appreciate the work of the programers. But, I won't to have an advantage over other players just because I have more cash! Therefore I use it mainly for researches and tasks and very rarely to treat myself.To help others is more important to me!
    I've set up my farm in a way that works for me, just as you've done for yourself and everyone else here has done and I find it interesting that you would consider the use of gold on the farm to be outside the boundaries of fair play.

    Just because you may think that way, doesn't mean that it is the case for everyone and it's not a good idea to be sitting in judgment of others for their way of running their farms. :)

    Short, I applaud your initial post - well said. :)

    Kat. Kittie_by_otomosc.gif
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