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  • Kat Nip (GB1)Kat Nip (GB1) GB1 Posts: 3,796
    edited 02.08.2013
    Actually mister8, what I said is that if too many suggestions just get thrown at the Dev's without them being vetted first to remove the suggestions that the Dev's just aren't ever going to go with, then the Dev's won't listen to what he does have to say when there's a really good idea presented. It's human nature.

    Also, it's Ethans job to select the best to present to the Dev's, not everything that's posted regardless of merit.

    What you're not understanding here, or refusing to understand is that we're not standing in the way of you guys getting horses, the problem is - once again - that other than the use of dung from them, not one idea has been presented that gives another use for them that can/will work in with the game. Provide that, and I have no doubt that Ethan will happily present the idea to the Dev's!

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  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 02.08.2013
    ...Or both of you could read the post that I made (with some considerable effort) to actually talk about how horses could work in the game besides just being poop factories... ;)
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 02.08.2013
    Okay, lets just stop and take a deep breath for a minute.
    mister8 wrote: »
    a certain community manager always gives us an answer that always translates into "IIIIIIMMMMM" not going to present this idea to to the developers because "IIIIIIII" dont think its a good idea.
    So doing my job? I'm not going to present every idea. Part of my job is to find the ideas here that actually have potential, not just the ones that people demand. As i stated before, i have no problem forwarding it if people provide GOOD suggestions. Simply having something that produces dung is not going to be accepted by the developers anyway.

    I've spoken with the team and they are considering the idea, but that is not a guarentee that they will ever be added.

    Regards,
    Ethan
  • ElizabethKElizabethK Posts: 519
    edited 02.08.2013
    I have said we are beating a dead horse. And I personally don't care if we have horses or not. However I actually like some of jaystarrs's ideas here.

    If people really want a horse maybe it could run similar to the nursery and help increase production and change times for the mill. The items to feed it could drop like the items for the seeds??

    I do think adding another animal stable like the chicken, pig or cow is redundant.
  • Celissa9 (US1)Celissa9 (US1) Posts: 82
    edited 02.08.2013
    Well, some people actually like to have choices. When we build decos...we get choices. When we build houses...we get choices. When we build barns for dung...no choices. Just the pig barn. I don't see how giving people more choices from the menu has devolved into this back and forth between the players and the moderators and community manager. This game is almost a year old and it is already becoming stagnant because nothing new has been added to the choices of animals and crops. Yes, the events do give us new decos, but I will stop buying gold and playing this game when it becomes the same old same old. It is starting to veer into that territory for me.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 02.08.2013
    This game is almost a year old and it is already becoming stagnant because nothing new has been added to the choices of animals and crops
    What about all the animals, crops and flowers from the Gourmet and Flower Farms, and the cherries, rie and sunflowers for the main farm. I started playing since january and they have all been added since I started

    The Water Tower and Workshop and recently the Nursery have been added, plus all the buildings for the other 2 farms

    I can't see how that is stagnant
  • Celissa9 (US1)Celissa9 (US1) Posts: 82
    edited 02.08.2013
    I am specifically referencing the animals and crops from the main farm. In my opinion, there needs to be some additions. The sunflowers and rice are nice, but they are not on our menu everyday for planting.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 02.08.2013
    CM Malreyn wrote: »
    As i stated before, i have no problem forwarding it if people provide GOOD suggestions. Simply having something that produces dung is not going to be accepted by the developers anyway.

    Please read post #90, then, and provide feedback on that.

    (If you think that people are still just talking about dung, you obviously haven't read my suggestion, which clearly details ways in which horses can contribute, and I don't even talk about poop!)
  • Celissa9 (US1)Celissa9 (US1) Posts: 82
    edited 02.08.2013
    Does anyone know of a link where we can leave our suggestions with the GGS development team? Most gaming studios do not have their players leave suggestions in a forum. They have a link on their site which can be accessed by anyone wanting to contribute ideas or offer suggestions. If you know of it, please post it here.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 02.08.2013
    CM Malreyn wrote: »
    Simply having something that produces dung is not going to be accepted by the developers anyway.
    then what about a combination of jaystarr and dragonprides ideas?like you have a choice to either sell the horses for the big bucks like dragon is pitching or you can use those horses to knock some time off of building or producing something. like using 100 horsepower will knock an hour off of building and producing and using the maximum 300 horses would take off 3 hours. if you make it to where it needs like 25 workers and use dragons idea of the stable being very large and taking 24 hours to produce the horses then you wont have people putting 10 stables on their farm and using horsepower as a gold substitute.also love jaystarrs idea of using apples for horse feed.i aint a gold buyer but if something like this was available i would be.


    CM Malreyn wrote: »
    I've spoken with the team and they are considering the idea, but that is not a guarentee that they will ever be added.

    Regards,
    Ethan
    if you truly did speak to the staff than thank you,thats all we wanted in the first place.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 02.08.2013
    mister8 wrote: »
    like you have a choice to either sell the horses for the big bucks like dragon is pitching

    The reason that I went the route that I did with saying that horses could be used to reduce production time or increase production efforts is that raising horses for selling is too similar to what we do with pigs now, and I was trying to move away from that since the objection (in some form) that is being given right now is that we don't want horses to be functionally the same as pigs.
  • dragonpridedragonpride Posts: 574
    edited 02.08.2013
    jaystarr2 wrote: »
    The reason that I went the route that I did with saying that horses could be used to reduce production time or increase production efforts is that raising horses for selling is too similar to what we do with pigs now, and I was trying to move away from that since the objection (in some form) that is being given right now is that we don't want horses to be functionally the same as pigs.
    i think what mister8 is saying is that they will still have their other uses like speeding up time but are also something you can make money off of,much like you have the choice to sell milk,apples,cherries,etc.for extra money instead of using them to make other things on the food farm(unlike pigs where truly their one and only purpose IS making dung)
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 02.08.2013
    i think what mister8 is saying is that they will still have their other uses like speeding up time but are also something you can make money off of,much like you have the choice to sell milk,apples,cherries,etc.for extra money instead of using them to make other things on the food farm(unlike pigs where truly their one and only purpose IS making dung)

    Ahh, right. I see what you're getting at now.

    To start with, I see pigs as having two purposes:
    1. Being poop factories;
    2. Being sold to some unknown person who of course has a magical pig farm and wouldn't dream of slaughtering those pink little oinkers. (i.e. moneymaking)

    Functionally, as animals, horses would satisfy #1 and would also make poop. But as Ethan said, that's not enough for horses to be included in the game. That's why I want to think of them as modifiers, rather than primarily a moneymaker.

    I'm thinking of horses less like the other animal stables and more like the Water Tower or Workshop, but as a modifier on fields (which WT and WS don't do right now). If the horse stable produces horses, it's quite straightforward to sell them as you sell any goods from your inventory (like pigs).

    As a production modifier, it's slightly different since we don't have to "apply" the WS/WT to the production buildings to get their benefit; maybe having the horse stable or horses being made or whatever would give you that benefit. And maybe if you don't have any horses in your inventory you can't use the modifier, so you have to constantly produce horses to get that benefit. Of course, then you can sell off the excess if you have them.

    And since horses themselves have a production cost (you have to feed them), this would also introduce a new element of juggling resources, which would make the game much more interesting (rather than the basic cycles of grow crop, mill it, feed animal, collect its poop and production, sell, etc.)

    Boom! We've just come up with two separate and quite distinct functions for horses on the farm in addition to poop factories. :)
  • rosyposy5622rosyposy5622 Posts: 1
    edited 02.08.2013
    me too i would like to have horses on my farm.(oh by the way i love your picture:p
  • dragonpridedragonpride Posts: 574
    edited 04.08.2013
    jaystarr2 wrote: »
    Boom! We've just come up with two separate and quite distinct functions for horses on the farm in addition to poop factories. :)
    if horses do make it to the game,i hope the devs go with one of our ideas.something completely different and new could be neat too.i dont even care if they make poop or not i just want horses on my farm.it would complete the image of the perfect farm and i could die happy :-)
  • EricaJ (US1)EricaJ (US1) Posts: 202
    edited 04.08.2013
    Celissa9 wrote: »
    Does anyone know of a link where we can leave our suggestions with the GGS development team? Most gaming studios do not have their players leave suggestions in a forum. They have a link on their site which can be accessed by anyone wanting to contribute ideas or offer suggestions. If you know of it, please post it here.

    There is an exclamation point next to the controls at the top of the screen that allows you to provide feedback via in-game message.
  • Celissa9 (US1)Celissa9 (US1) Posts: 82
    edited 04.08.2013
    Thank you Erica. I found that after I posted here. I sent my suggestions there, so hopefully they will be seen by someone who can do something about game development.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 05.08.2013
    jaystarr2 wrote: »
    Please read post #90, then, and provide feedback on that.

    (If you think that people are still just talking about dung, you obviously haven't read my suggestion, which clearly details ways in which horses can contribute, and I don't even talk about poop!)

    Hi Jaystarr2,

    I don't mean to sound rude, but please read my last post. I simply mention the dung because the majority of the suggestions in this thread have been simply that. Yours was detailed and was one of the teasons it was forwarded on.
    Celissa9 wrote: »
    Does anyone know of a link where we can leave our suggestions with the GGS development team? Most gaming studios do not have their players leave suggestions in a forum. They have a link on their site which can be accessed by anyone wanting to contribute ideas or offer suggestions. If you know of it, please post it here.

    Hi Celissa9,

    Thats acutally what this part of the forum is for and this is how we deal with it. We often look for community feedback on suggestions before we add them, which is why we do it via the forum. I see from a later post that you saw the ingame feedback button, that is for feedback, not really for making suggestions.


    At the end of the day we do want people to make suggestions, but please don't just post "i want horses" and expect it to be added. If you make a suggestion please be as creative as possible and show us that you have clearly thought about how it impacts other things in the game. That way its more likely to be considered by the team.

    Regards,
    Ethan.
  • Celissa9 (US1)Celissa9 (US1) Posts: 82
    edited 05.08.2013
    Thanks Ethan. I did not just state though that, "I want horses." My suggestion is just to have some choices on the main farm where animals are concerned. I am at a complete loss as to why this seems to be counter-intuitive to some. Choices are good things. Adding a little variation would make players happy. Not everyone likes to have a farm that looks exactly like everyone else's farm. We all have the same decos, barns and buildings. I would just like to see a few more choices in our main farm menu, so that all our farms are not just slightly different variations of one another.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 10.08.2013
    Thanks Ethan. I wasn't aware that my suggestion had been forwarded to the dev team. When do you expect to hear an answer back on this issue?
  • SharonGamer2SharonGamer2 Posts: 5
    edited 17.11.2013
    Horse hair from the tail was used in making mattresses, chairs, etc before foam was invented
  • Freida (US1)Freida (US1) Posts: 12
    edited 21.11.2013
    hi ethan.i can agree that not every animal should be added to the game but in many cultures horses are a very common farm animal.here is my pitch:the horse pasture is the top money maker for the main farm.it becomes available at lvl 30.its large(the size of a meadow or maybe a little bigger)and requires oats(or carrots)to make horse feed.it take 24 hrs to make 100 pure bread horses witch are valued at 100,000$.it can be upgraded 5 times with each new level giving an added 50 horses with the level 5 pasture giving you 300,000$.it is a barn like building surrounded by a wooden fence and filled with green grass and different breeds of horses grazing in the pasture.each time it is upgraded the barn gets bigger,the fence gets fancier,the grass gets greener and starts growing flowers and another horse is seen grazing in the field with a total of 3 adult horses and 2 babies at lvl 5.the purpose of the horse pasture is being the top feature of the main farm.it takes many orchards to make any kind of serious money from the main farm and this would be a good money maker not to mention a beautiful addition to the game.so theres your reason,purpose,how it works and even what it looks like.please at least let the developers decide the fate of this idea.i think all everybody is wanting in the first place is to know it was at least seen and considered by the creators themselves.

    I absolutely love this response...it makes 100% sense to do this. I love horses and think they should be included in the game! The pigs have no other value than dung and to be sold, so why not horses. There are many horse lovers out there as well as myself. You added a dog for happiness. GGS should consider our wants, we are the players and the root of the game. Maybe a fourth farm with other animals that players are suggesting would be an answer to all. Just saying!!! GGS should not be so negative to this!
    Celissa9 wrote: »
    I am going to give my two cents here and I hope this will help change some minds. One good reason, besides the production of dung, to have horses on our farms...aesthetics. Our farms would be greatly improved from the beauty aspect. When I look at my farm I think, that looks pretty good...except for those hideous, horrendous looking cow sheds. I would gladly demolish, at a loss, the cow sheds in favor of horse barns. I know that's not going to happen because we use the milk for other things. So my eyes next fall upon the equally unattractive pig barns. I would also demolish them in favor of horse barns. I guess what I and others want is just the choice to place what animals we want on our farms, not what animals are available by default. We would just like to make that decision for ourselves. If people decide they don't want the horses, well that's fine and dandy for them. If they like the way their farms are now and don't want to change things or demolish anything to add a horse barn, well then that's fine. However, there are some of us who would very much appreciate the chance to add them. For the sake of beauty lovers everywhere...I beseech you to bring the idea up with the development team. Thank you for reading :)

    Props to you for this response!!
    jaystarr2 wrote: »
    Thanks Ethan. I wasn't aware that my suggestion had been forwarded to the dev team. When do you expect to hear an answer back on this issue?

    I do hope they make considerations soon to add horses. I would gladly trade my pigpens for horse stables anytime as long as they can do it affordably. I like the idea of making our farms unique to our liking and having choices. Thank you jaystarr2 and dragonpride for your ideas and fight in implementing this choice.


    Post edited by Kat Nip: Merged posts, please use the edit button
  • ArtmakerArtmaker Posts: 415
    edited 21.11.2013
    There are so many ways this game could be expanded. But I know there are limits as to size, number of files etc that would have to be hosted and called up. Gotta stay within limits and think out what to add. I get that.

    But... horses are SO cool.

    how about this. As far as what they could do.
    A horse stable could be an extra item. Like the dog house. Train the horse just like training the dog. Jump fences, run barrels, and.... rope cattle.
    THen...
    how about... on occasion, and it could be a rare thing, the cows get loose. Only those with a horse, trained to do some cattle wrangling, would be able to gather up your cows and restore your cattle barn.
    If not... you would have to pay, sort of an "upgrade fee" to re purchase cattle.


    I don't ask for much do I?

    Decor would be cool too.
  • louenda (US1)louenda (US1) Posts: 32
    edited 29.11.2013
    I would like to have horses also. They can be used for plowing the fields. It would lower the cost because horses or mules are cheaper to feed than it is to buy fuel. Plus the manure can be used to fertilize the crops. I for one have horses for real. They are wonderful animals and like dogs and cats they can help you relax when your having a bad day. I also would never eat one or send it for slaughter/ glue. Makes me sick to my stomach to think about it.
  • Latten (DE1)Latten (DE1) Posts: 6,246
    edited 29.11.2013
    Well, well. You remember when I briefly talked about our 2014 planning in another thread? No? Doesn't matter, 'cause I won't tell anything anyway.
  • Celissa9 (US1)Celissa9 (US1) Posts: 82
    edited 29.11.2013
    Ha :) Well, that is just wrong, but I am very much looking forward to the new year's changes. Great job GGS for always working to improve the game for all who play.
  • mariachi (RO1)mariachi (RO1) Posts: 7,850
    edited 29.11.2013
    louenda wrote: »
    I also would never eat one or send it for slaughter/ glue. Makes me sick to my stomach to think about it.

    talking about that.. it is possible to take the pigs out of the game? they are not used at anything in particular. it's easy to replace them with something else, that could be integrated in projects and further production, like milk and apples being used in the second farm...
  • wendt (SKN1)wendt (SKN1) Posts: 1
    edited 29.11.2013
    Yes why not - on a oldfassion farm like this - no kritik
    horses will fit in perfekt .
  • lilchik703lilchik703 Posts: 23
    edited 02.12.2013
    soneeya wrote: »
    = depending on what the 4th farm is (considering it has a picture of a hand saw on it)

    Our signon the 4th farm (US1) is a paint brush.... hmmm
  • lilchik703lilchik703 Posts: 23
    edited 02.12.2013
    What about using horse hair to produce fabrics, jewelry, belts etc?
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