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Religion, the World, and lots of parties!
Latten (DE1)
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after a discussion on the topic, I wanted to discuss this a bit further. Please don't antagonize or talk down other people in this thread, it's supposed to be a fruitful discussion. Usually we don't discuss religious topics in any shape or form, so please be nice and understanding, or I will have to close the thread.
Alright, what did we talk about: We usually go for non-religious variants of popular holidays, for example the "commercialized" Halloween, and usually only use worldwide holidays like new year's eve or maybe christmas (even if we don't use "christmas", rather "winter holidays" or similar), only because those festivities are the most celebrated for the majority of users. I can see how this might offend other religions or even non-religious people, though, and the Forums are totally the right place to talk this over.
So, while - for the game itself - probably not much will change in the near future regarding this (and I of course will take this to the devs, so they will be aware of it), we can of course try it in our awesome forum community
Now, and this goes to all areas of the world participating in the EN forums, feel free to post here and describe some of your favourite holidays! If they're not too "edgy" in a religious way and don't offend other people's beliefs and idealism in a hurtful way, we can absolutely do even more partying in here!
We're all a big community, and it shouldn't matter if we're celebrating Christmas, Hanuka or Eid Al-Fitr, as long as we're all having fun!
So, please post a few of your favorite holidays along with a short description for everyone and some dates, and I'll see if I can get a Forum party calendar going!
Preliminary calendar:
Carnival, Portugal/Brazil - Mar 04
Earth Day, worldwide - Apr 22
Talk Like a Pirate Day - Sep 9
May Day May 1st
Flower Day/County Fair - No date set
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In our family, my father-in-law makes a turkey in the smokehouse. And then the rest of the family makes a big dish of whatever else we want to bring. I usually make green bean casserole or make a big dish of sweet potatoes. There is usually about 30-40 people. It is a day where NO one fights and everyone has a good time--petty arguments are left at home. It is a wonderful day
**And thank you Latten for making new thread
**I have often wondered these past few years, whether the Native Americans feel the same way about this celebration. Independence Day is a victory, but only for the country that gains their independence.
**I don't think this is really a religous holiday, but many churches in this area have a special service because many families return home during this time and they often include attending the services together as part of their traditions.
Altgought Carnival is not celebrated in all countries of the world, I'm sure everyone has at least heard of the Carnival in Brazil, or maybe even Portugal.
Next Carnival will take place 4th of March next year.
According to Wikipedia: "While it forms an integral part of the Christian calendar, particularly in Catholic regions, some carnival traditions may date back to pre-Christian times."
In Portugal we have a saying: "No Carnaval ninguém leva a mal", which roughly translates to "At Carnival nobody takes anything badly".
not in forum on game
OOOh Earth Day: I think that might be more than just a US thing. It really is not a holiday, but we are encouraged to plant a tree on this day. We also have reminders to 'Reduce,Recycle,Reuse' and generally cut down our energy use to help the environment. There has been suggestions of an enviromental themed event previously in other threads.
We also have an International Migratory Bird Day/Week. There has been lots of research into where the birds go and how they know where and when is the best way. In the spring, about 40 miles from here MANY species of birds gather at a resting spot before they continue their flight to cooler weather in Canada. They are here for only a few weeks and then continue to Canada. Some of them even hatch their young at that location;) .
There is also a butterfly that winters in South America and returns to Canada similar to the birds, but they fly over Lake Erie. They go through several life stages on their journey, each having a very specific food--My area is that they prefer a plant we call 'milkweed', which now that we understand is part of their essential diet, Most farmers don't kill the milkweed anymore.
If we really are going to have an event such as this, I can provide links to the places for more information.
Just kidding. xD
Kat.
I'm hopeful that we'll get many more ideas in here so that the Dev's can have us partying on our farms on a regular basis in some form or another.
Kat.
I think too many ppl would dislike participating in "parties" of different religions. What if we were simply allowed to voice our celebrations in a thread . And the mods could protect the threads. Allow that if a Muslim wants to celebrate EID in a thread with others of the same belief, that they could speak of their religion, and holiday openly in that thread. And the Mods could help protect their religious freedom. I don't want to hold anybody back from celebrating their holidays, but I sure wish there was a way I could opt out. I have no interest in Halloween, Christmas, or EID. Likewise a Muslim would probably be highly offended if you had them participating in my Jewish holidays. Like if for Hanukkah you had a candle appear somewhere each day, adding one each day that passed (First day- 1 candle, 2nd day- 2 candles... etc.). Although I would love this, it's not everyone's cup tea, and I wouldn't want anyone to feel about my holidays the way the Easter eggs and ghosts have made me feel. I haven't complained once about any of these, and this is not a complaint either. It's just that I really don't think adding more parties is the answer... maybe just a little more religious freedom in specific holiday threads. Other than that, sticking primarily to season related themes. A harvest party I'm fine with just don't tie it to Halloween.
I really don't want to offend anyone but I'm not seeing this going well! I wish I could.
Or at least give people the option to opt out of "Special Parties".
Actually I didn't have a problem with the pumpkin hunting, because they were just pumpkins and not jack-o-lanterns. To me it was seasonal not Halloween specific.
Some time ago we were celebrating Catholic Christmas, New Year, Christian Orthodox Christmas and Chinese New Year - that took us a month, lol.
In the Big Farm event it would be nice to see Christmas/New Year celebration (hopefully, a horse will come on the Chinese one :0)) ).
In the end of February beginning of March there is a spring welcoming festival that is celebrated from pagan times in many cultures, and I think it is very important for us, farmers :0)). Here, in the Netherlands they make floats and parades (I participated several times - that was a lot of fun!), in other countries they make pancakes and trade fairs, etc.
Yeah! Year of the Horse!
I think specific cultural/religious events should be limited since those have the most potential to offend. This is probably why we aren't going to have a specific Christmas thing, but we might do a "winter festival" or something. Or why there wouldn't be any military-specific holidays (ANZAC day, Independence Day, etc.) But things that are "International [something] Day" would work! I'm particular down with the pirate one, arr!!
Here's some I've found -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Festivals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:International_observances
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_Nations_days
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_Nations_observances
If this game chooses to celebrate the festivals/events of any religion or culture, I'll welcome it with an open heart, and an open & inquiring mind. Even if there was one I found I didn't particularly like for any reason, I daresay I could survive it for the short while it lasted without getting in the least upset about it!
I very much like the earlier suggestion of having some sort of Harvest Festival celebration - very apt for a farming game.
My own suggestion is that I'd love to see something for May Day next year - perhaps some spring flowers, the workers dressed in Morris Dancing costumes, and a hobby horse - after all, we already have the maypoles ...
We could have production competitions to see who can grow the most corn in an hour. There could be events for the co-ops to do this too. Not everyone would have to be online at same time for an event such as this--just start the timer when you are ready and whoever else is participating can start when they are on. This way someone doing this competition at 7 am can still play against someone that doesn't log in til 10 am.
Just checked on Google - Shrewsbury Flower Show dates back to 1836!
I think it will be no problem to build an event that will not offend
I really like the idea of an opt out button. Then Big Farm can go wild inventing new parties and celebrations to their heart's content, and everyone else's; But if some don't like the particular event they can easily (and happily) opt out.
I think there has been an equality stated between not wanting to have to participate in the holidays, with not wanting to learn about them or discuss them. I respect everyone's differences and have no angst against them enjoying themselves through them. In our co-op we have all different walks of life; Christian, Messianic, Jewish, Pagan and Wiccan. We have fun discussions about all these from time to time. I have learned a lot and enjoy participating in them. But that does not mean I would go to their house (yes I know this is a stretch) and participate in their celebrations.
But if the devs can connect an event to our computer clock, they should be able to program an opt out button for each event. It really would allow them so much more freedom for the enjoyment of all. Those that want to "party" can, and those who don't want to, can farm happily without the intrusion.
Please!!! please!!! Consider the freedom that this would give to all!!!! 8)
There is absolutely no way to do these things without offending someone. That is just the way the world works.
Just to clarify, this is NOT about the game itself, it's about having a thread and a little event and celebration in the forums, so everyone who wants to can join the party
***2nd sunday in May is Mother's day.
***3rd sunday in June is Father's day.
Both are days that we show love and respect for our parents.
*******
Oh another one could be "last day of school". I always liked that day!
made up to suit well anything. Just a drop in the bucket out of endless possibilities events could be
geared towards ie-veg olympics....etc
And fathersdag is 2nd sunday i November. And fathersday in Sweden og Finland is the same according to Wiki
Morthersday in Sweden is last sunday i May.
I think mothersday and fathersday often is different from contry to contry.
And I like the idee about OL, and may be Football WC, and Tour de France....:D