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  • Runix3Runix3 Posts: 11
    edited 26.04.2013
    But you also have to think about the fraction that actually use the forum. Because the majority might be having problems but don't utilize the forums at all. I didn't even notice there was a forum until I was level 22
  • funki84 (US1)funki84 (US1) Posts: 6
    edited 29.04.2013
    Missions just feels like a huge waste of time but as there are rp need in chicken or eggs project ni cant be without it... started the 23h begin fert mission for 380 rps... we where 2 and the other dont play fair... 7h ago it was 29-1 to me...when i wake up its 116-29 to him...and as we where only 2 i couldent get any rps without gold so i quit
  • Diz3Diz3 Posts: 15
    edited 29.04.2013
    Just to highlight, I had won without using gold against people who had used gold and in some cases got second also. But my viewpoint is if the missions cann be divided into gold and non-gold missions (where gold usage is not allowed) then mission participation will also increase otherwise I have observed it is decreasing, at present. Only new players participate to try what missions are all about against very very experienced players.
  • Irish30 (US1)Irish30 (US1) Posts: 264
    edited 29.04.2013
    It would be nice if there were non-gold and gold missions, however BF will never do it because they make their money by players using "real money" to win. Being a one person co-op the only way to do the chicken or egg projects in the higher lvls is to use gold to get the needed rep (as high as 1250 points in three days...lol). No way they will kill that cash cow and you can't blame them...it's a business .
  • EricaJ (US1)EricaJ (US1) Posts: 202
    edited 06.05.2013
    fro3 wrote: »
    In the meantime, since you admit you know it's a problem- why don't you remove the requirement for co ops to do missions for the chicken or the egg project?!

    Yes, please.

    I'm not a fan of missions. I tried one once when I first started playing the game. I won it, but didn't much enjoy it, so I hadn't done one since. Until - joining a co-op that needs to acquire 690 reputation points to complete this project.

    I do appreciate GGS's need to generate revenue, and frankly, most free-to-play games have some competitive elements that are pay-to-win. Big Farm is no exception.

    What I would suggest for the chicken-or-egg co-op project is to allow co-op members to pony up some gold in lieu of mission participation. For example, 10 gold could reduce the reputation points needed by 1. In that way, GGS would still get their gold and co-op members would not feel obligated to try to compete in missions.
  • BarbyC (GB1)BarbyC (GB1) Posts: 1
    edited 12.05.2013
    Sounds like people are taking it all too seriously - it's a game people.
    I win some missions, never buy gold, so any 'cheating' is limited by the daily reward for logging on.
    Even if I don't win a mission I still walk away with some dollars for participating.
    If RP is what you really want then you have to pay for it.
    I REPEAT IT IS ONLY A GAME.
    Don't spoil what is working.
  • PriNT2357PriNT2357 Posts: 11
    edited 19.05.2013
    I used to think the issue was gold/no gold, but now I can't even compete with people around my level. I mean come on. How can I compete with a level 89 and a level 50 when I am only level 30?!?!? Count me out of doing missions anymore.

    Mission: Impossible.
  • VOC2VOC2 Posts: 2
    edited 20.05.2013
    i guess the issue isn't fixed since post #84
    as i am up agains level 55 and 47 player in a sell wheat mission and im just level 18
    just 5 players in the mission currently i'm in 3rd place
    mission start cost was 70 points if i take 3rd place
    i win 37 points so getting a 3rd place means losing points? i don't get it
  • carol88 (US1)carol88 (US1) Posts: 13
    edited 06.06.2013
    Rock.me.amadeus3 has a good idea, chatting with your fellow mission players in order to get to know them, but I think people are too busy thinking about strategies they can employ to beat you and aren't out for socialising. Also some may use it to 'abuse' other players with trash talk which would put people off of missions even more than they are. What I do is use the email to congratulate or chat with the players at the end. I've made some great contacts that way.

    Must agree with gold and non-gold suggestions. It is harrowing going up against players who have gold to burn. They're not making any effort or employing any strategies to win and I thought that was the whole objective of a mission. I don't mind getting a lesser reward I just want it to be fair.
  • ElizabethKElizabethK Posts: 519
    edited 06.06.2013
    I agree that the gold/nongold issue can be annoying, however, I have a bigger problem with being in missions with people at a much higher level than I am. I am currently level 34 and was once in a mission with someone above level 100. I had "honestly" won a few missions without gold and had over 150 rep points so I was thrown in with higher level players. I would rather the missions be separated solely on experience/level. If I am thrown in with a few gold spenders I can deal with that, but when I am in a mission where every single person is so far ahead of me that I am lucky to get last place it isn't fun or worth it.

    Also, I feel it is more interesting if everyone in a mission is at or near the same level. If I join a collect wildflower mission and some one has 10 fields where I only have four, they deserve to win that one. But, if we are in a sell apples mission and they only have 1 orchard and I have 3, I should win that one. We all have the same opportunities to develop our farms to the same point and it is interesting to see the different choices different people make.

    So my opinion is basically, base mission placements solely on experience pts/level and deal with the gold spenders as they come, since GGS is a business and won't do anything to discourage gold spending.
  • slucasluca Posts: 14
    edited 14.06.2013
    I don't know if this has been mentioned more often, but I am on a Dutch server and I love to play the collect wild flower missions. But the last 3 times or so there were only 2 players. And today I am all alone!! How can I earn dollars and reputation points if I can only beat myself?? It's just ridiculous and very frustrating ... :-)
  • lakoma2lakoma2 Posts: 3
    edited 14.06.2013
    wykon662 wrote: »
    One feature I see as necessary is that there be absolute bracketing according to reputation points so those with low RP won't have to deal with a high RP person who is likely a gold user. This ensures a fairer playing field and will lead to less complaints about gold users. I'd rather play an unfilled match than have the game toss in a super player to fill up the slots.

    I don't agree with the match up by reputation points. I was matched up with a level 70 player (I'm level 30) because they were supposedly in my rep category We were selling wildflowers and in the first 5 minutes he had sold 58,000. There was NO way I could catch up--even if I'd used all my cash and bought gold to boot.

    The whole mission system needs an overhaul. The only reason I play them is because my coop requests it when we do the coop project. Otherwise, I won't play them at all.
  • acyacy Posts: 1
    edited 18.06.2013
    You should have two types of missions one with able to use gold with better prizes and one with no gold at all.
  • meemowmeemow Posts: 15
    edited 18.06.2013
    I haven't played a mission yet. Im level 42. I don't understand the clock part of the missions. For example if I were to click on a mission what should I be looking for in the clock as far as time goes. Because there can be a reputation point penalty I haven't tried to practice entering the missions to see how the clock works and what affect it would have if any.
  • Faye1953Faye1953 Posts: 9
    edited 24.06.2013
    I recently became a member (30/5/2013) and in the first week I must have done about 4 (?) missions (needed the "game cash" to get a toe hold on my farm) and I won each of them. Now looking back, I realize that I was competing against people who had no idea what to do. I just jumped in and ran with it threw caution to the wind. I used no gold no humus. After a few weeks of getting my farm more settled I tried another mission. I was at a level 28 I believe and I did the egg gathering and failed miserably. I jumped out with 800 eggs and the next person jumped out with 1000 eggs and it just went down hill from there. I checked their farm and I can say we had the same level chicken coops and I realized the only way they could have achieved that amount was by skipping with gold. I don't use gold I can't I don't have the real cash for "game gold". I think it's sad that in a game people have to play so competitive. I have no problem with people using gold just let me know so I can decide I if want to be a part of the mission. I think that maybe the missions should be grouped "missions with gold" and "missions without gold". I will admit I used gold and humus in a corn gathering mission (I had only $800 US in "game cash" and it was gold I had accumulated by leveling up). I came in 2nd but the reputation points were lower and the '"game cash" for 2nd place was lower then mentioned. I can only guest it was because not very many people had signed up for the mission due to this issue. How sad something that can be fun is being ruined by a few. After reading about this issue on this forum I think I'll stay away from missions unless I absolutely need the "game cash". I can busy myself around my farm.
  • G-Man4G-Man4 Posts: 1
    edited 26.06.2013
    Glad to see this is a recognised problem.

    I currently just joined a mission (which I don't do very often) where the objective was to sell milk. As a level 29 it is infuriating to be paired against a group of people who are level 47 considering their barns and cow sheds were double the level of mine and they had the room for heaps more. I never had a chance even with gold.

    On a seperate note I beilve that the issue of gold and no gold missions should be solved by something like the missions pairing going by a count of how much gold you have though I can already think of many problems for this
  • AstragekAstragek Posts: 495
    edited 26.06.2013
    The only way to fix that problem, is when you sign up for a mission, that you get asked whether you want to use gold yes or no. If you answer no, all the gold using options will be locked till the mission is over
  • ss02092ss02092 Posts: 772
    edited 26.06.2013
    Astragek wrote: »
    The only way to fix that problem, is when you sign up for a mission, that you get asked whether you want to use gold yes or no. If you answer no, all the gold using options will be locked till the mission is over

    Is there some option like that currently Astragek?
  • AstragekAstragek Posts: 495
    edited 26.06.2013
    No there is not, I wish, then I wouldn't have lost so many rep points :D
  • Emm62Emm62 Posts: 101
    edited 29.06.2013
    I am part way through a sell apples mission. I am level 51 which i admit is up there, but dang it, I was paired up with a level 90 player with over 2000+ more reputation points than me. 2 seconds into the mission my opponent (there was only 1 other besides me) sells 8,400 apples. I think "what the" and give up in the first 5 minutes. They have 5 apple orchards, maximum level. I have 3 level 4. I legitimately harvest and sell 1,365 apples with still 1200 in the barn in case i needed them. Next thing the other guy has sold 30,200 apples. Now that is a serious amount of game cash to spend on a mission (i actually thought he was a bit dumb to do it since I only had 1,000 or so but hey its his/her money).

    Apart from that - with only 2 in the mission I get absolutely no reputation points, just 7,000 cash and 10 xp. I was really counting on at least some reputation points because we are doing a co-op project where we need rep points and after all I am coming 2nd.

    Its about time they made these missions a bit fairer. This is the second mission in 2 days that has really got my dander up. The last one i did i was the only one in at - the rep points I won were less than what it cost me to join the mission and not what the total was. Surely if I'm the only one in a mission I should get ALL of the rep points that were on offer at the beginning.

    Anyway that's my bleat about missions. :-) Happy Farming
  • connerk2connerk2 Posts: 177
    edited 29.06.2013
    Getting pretty sick of entering competitions with players twice my level.
    Not really a competition then is it?
  • choppychop (GB1)choppychop (GB1) Posts: 789
    edited 29.06.2013
    well all the missions are suited for you and for people with the same amount of points as you. I don't want to be harsh, but it's your loss to be against people twice your level. you DID put yourself there.
  • connerk2connerk2 Posts: 177
    edited 29.06.2013
    so your argument is that I should lose missions against people my level so I don't lose missions to people at a higher level?

    huh...interesting
  • connerk2connerk2 Posts: 177
    edited 29.06.2013
    kind of my thought would be to arrange groups by level
    + or - 20% or so?
  • EricaJ (US1)EricaJ (US1) Posts: 202
    edited 29.06.2013
    There is a mission petition sticky at the top of this forum.

    Many people share your frustration.
  • trollski2trollski2 Posts: 18
    edited 29.06.2013
    it gets strange - I was level 12 set against level 30 once - in which world is that fair ?
  • choppychop (GB1)choppychop (GB1) Posts: 789
    edited 29.06.2013
    i'm saying that at all. You should be happy to be against someone twice your level. it means you are equal to them!
  • connerk2connerk2 Posts: 177
    edited 29.06.2013
    i'm saying that at all. You should be happy to be against someone twice your level. it means you are equal to them!

    Hardly.
    Lvl 2 windmill against lvl 4 windmill is not even close to equal.
    And it's not like u have the option for it at any level!

    making humus, fertilizer or feed should be lvl restricted
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited 29.06.2013
    i understand the frustration but in time u will get used to it
    and a higher level doesn't mean that you win missions i speak from experience (level 78 )
    started the week with 290 RP i have lost every mission i played or at a position that
    doesn't get me in the points and i now am left with 52 RP
    and i have played against all levels from 70+ and 30

    now i just enter every mission and only once in a while i make an effort to get in the top 3
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