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Teach or Make hiring researchers easier.
It is sad.
But this is a game flaw. We do make some efforts to tell new members how to sponsor researchers.
Like...
a) Visit Co-op page
b) visit research tab
c) Go to Drop down tab and select (whatever research we doing) Cooperative projects/
d) select "optimize process". (or whatever you are on
e) click research details button on screen on right.
f) hire a researcher.
Then we also give the plea that it is only fair to pull your weight, etc.
Anyways. The game gives plenty of info on how to build fences and chicken coops, but offers NO information about what responsibilities are needed in co-op.
Even if the changed the name of the research details button and made it three times as big.
Like .. "Hire RESEARCHERS HERE you dimwitted noobs"
This would save a lot of sad faces as they are constantly being kicked out of co-ops.
A co-op has no choice but to kick out people who cannot grasp this, and I am tired of kicking out people just because their brains are a little bit smaller.
It is very sad.
I hope they fix this so less gamers cry themselves to sleep at night.
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It would help if players get a bit more info about cooperations indeed, maybe before they join even, and then a walkthrough when they actually get in one.
I am a teacher and don't really mind explaining things though.
I actually tried to express that I take a lot of time trying to teach people how the coop works. I did agree with the fact that it might be helpful if the game had a small coop tutorial though. I don't mind at all to show people around in a coop, teach them where everything is, but it might be helpful if there would be something like it in the game.
I cán understand Darconio's frustration though at people who díd get the explanation and still don't hire researchers.
If you had known me in the game, you would know that I am very tolerant and very patient with people who need help. Maybe my post did get out the wrong way.
And about that youngster, that is just very sad! It's totally different from what Darconio started about though. The coop he was in are just total donkeys behinds! With us, you don't nééd to donate gold! And if you do and we know you can't buy, we appreciate it even more! I hope the young lad didn't quit the game and found a nice coop!
Its not hard for a childabuser to start a "nice" kids coop, and go bad from there. Online games should state at least a 12 year minimum or with parental guidance.
but I think it is up to the coop's leader to explain to the members how the things work.
I always tell new members to take some time to look at all the cooperative tabs, get familiar with it and if they have any questions, they can ask me or anyone else online at that moment.
This way if we speak about hiring researchers or projects, they know where to look
The sarcasm used in the Opening Post was meant to reflect the cruelty we are forced to do in this game as a result of poor game set up. They NEED to make hiring researchers easier to find.
Every new member we have greeted with a warm welcome. We have never asked any member for gold. We politely ask them to save their donation dollars and apply them to hiring researchers foremost. We even describe in intimate details how to hire researchers. We describe how it is unfair for some members to buy several researchers using their gold.
This post is meant to show the game developers that by increasing the size of their "research details" button and pointing people to the "hire researchers page" then a lot less heartache will be associated with this game.
This game is designed so members MUST, MUST, MUST, participate in hiring researchers or it is not fair to some.
FINDING THE HIRE RESEARCHER PAGE SHOULD NOT BE AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS. PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND IT WITH EASE. NOBODY SHOULD NEED TO WRITE 3+ LETTERS TO SOMEONE TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHERE RESEARCHERS ARE AND THEIR IMPORTANCE.
From the Co-op screen a newb Co-op member needs to travel through tabs, drop down menus, click on a project to find a hidden screen and then click on a tiny mislabeled button to hire a researcher.
This is not right.
Plus this screen has gold purchasing options so the game creators might sell even more gold if people can access it.
I am very patient with new members and have explained to them in detail what the processes are and why they are required. Perhaps some are not literate? I do not know. All I know is it is a sad part of the game kicking these people out, but if they do not contribute then they must go to be fair to rest of co-op.
This thread is only to help by letting developers know hiring researchers should not be rocket science.
We also do not ask members to donate money.. We mainly care about researchers.
Our 2 info pages we have in co-op describe importance of and how-to find researchers, but it is too complicated for some kids (maybe even some adults).
We will not keep a member who does not help with research is bottom line. It has made a few sad I know, but it's a game and not meant to be fun.
we as in members not just mods, have posted how to do ? in threads and then someone will post [after we have told them how to do it] and still ask how do we do that. There are sticky notes in the forums and yet more and more people don't bother to read them.
So even though a game bible might be a great in theory, I bet only a handful would read it.
Just my thoughts though
One way GGS could fix this easily is not just have the "join cooperative" task as a task that just ends at joining the cooperative, but also give them other tasks to contribute to other parts of the coop. There's already one for the donating of collectibles, but what about things like participating in chat, hiring researchers, donating money etc.? You have these sorts of instructions at the beginning for how to build a chicken shed or plant seeds or whatever, why not have something similar here for cooperatives? That would stop people feeling so stupid and stranded once they are in a cooperative and have no idea what they are doing.
I agree with this. Some tutorial for anything that's new to the player is always a good thing. Unfortunately, the nature of these types of games is that they are always in a WIP state. You never really get a finished product because they are always adding/changing/tweaking something. Seems like the co-op feature was added before it was actually finished and has yet to receive changes.
They could also place 2 dozen question marks all over the page that take them to dumbed down instructions on how to find researchers.
I love a lot of the suggestions (thanks jaystan) and also agree hiring a researcher would make a great quest for a learner.
People do not cry because they cannot figure out how to plant cabbage but apparently some do when they get kicked out of coops because they too "dumb" (i wanted other word but what) to figure out how to hire researcher.
Here's the quick-link to the thread: click here
Awesome. That would be even better than my dreams as I am sick of kicking people out that don't get it. I am patient and explain things well, but even I have had to remove a few so i imagine this is extremely common.
I'd be happy with a few bandaid fixes, but tutorials, etc sound awesome.
I hope the game developers read this. This topic is not even added to their sticky list.
I also think a few help pages led to by question marks on those pages could also help.. Band aid first, then do your all inclusive tutorial.
I feel sorry for the members we have ruthlessly kicked out of our Co-op because they are too stupid to grasp that almost all members need to hire researchers.
It is sad.
But this is a game flaw. We do make some efforts to tell new members how to sponsor researchers.
Like...
a) Visit Co-op page
b) visit research tab
c) Go to Drop down tab and select (whatever research we doing) Cooperative projects/
d) select "optimize process". (or whatever you are on
e) click research details button on screen on right.
f) hire a researcher.
Then we also give the plea that it is only fair to pull your weight, etc.
Anyways. The game gives plenty of info on how to build fences and chicken coops, but offers NO information about what responsibilities are needed in co-op.
Even if the changed the name of the research details button and made it three times as big.
Like .. "Hire RESEARCHERS HERE you dimwitted noobs"
This would save a lot of sad faces as they are constantly being kicked out of co-ops.
A co-op has no choice but to kick out people who cannot grasp this, and I am tired of kicking out people just because their brains are a little bit smaller.
It is very sad.
I hope they fix this so less gamers cry themselves to sleep at night.
We can only tell them 99 times how to hire a researcher before it gets annoying.
Our news and Info pages both sound like this alll the time.. It would be nice to actually have a spot for... news
That is only portion. Our members need MUCH more explaining.
I program websites. I KNOW I could change the name of the button (after 2 tabs) from RESEARCHER DETAILS to "PRESS THIS BUTTON TO HIRE RESEARCHERS YOU DUMB KIDS" in about 15 minutes from the time I log on.
big question marks floating around that say "IDIOTS PRESS HERE TO LEARN HOW TO HIRE RESEARCHERS" may also be a good idea.
I would also like an auto-response mail that goes out when they cry about it.
"WHY DID YOU KICK ME OUT?'
It could say " BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUY RESEARCHERS, AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO PULL THEIR WEIGHT"
Heck I have seen some of these dumb kids buy researchers with gold once they find the place so it can be good for GGS. They can sell more gold. It accesses a page that sells gold.
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Say what????? And here all this time I've thought games were supposed to be fun!! :wacko: