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what is going on with co op members?

I am so tired of members joining the co op and doing nothing! When they join everything is all roses then 2 days later nothing?( Why sit back and let 2 members do everything and you reap the rewards? We are struggling to harvest 21,000 apples and no one is even logging in to tend to their own farms! It is to the point I don't even want to start projects because I know we will get stuck with doing it all!
If you know you are not going to be online then just drop a line to a member and tell them so projects are not started expecting your help!
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  • Molf (GB1)Molf (GB1) Posts: 29
    edited 30.03.2013
    I agree with you with ours there is like 3 people doing it and the rest just sit back once had to spend 210 of my gold (speed up the time ) to make sure we managed the apple one.
    I guess some people either don't know how it works or are simply not willing to do anything.
  • Sandi4848 (US1)Sandi4848 (US1) Posts: 50
    edited 30.03.2013
    ours don't even bother to log in and take care of their own farms!
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 30.03.2013
    So why don't you kick them out of your co-op and get people who are active instead? You could just stipulate that a condition of membership is that they have to be active and if they aren't they can be removed.
  • Sandi4848 (US1)Sandi4848 (US1) Posts: 50
    edited 30.03.2013
    I have been doing that...if they have not logged in for 3 days they get booted, but I am spending all my time looking for new members and when I find them they all say oh yes I will work hard and as soon as they add their collectables to the co op and finish their task we never see them online again!
  • soneeya (AU1)soneeya (AU1) Posts: 69
    edited 30.03.2013
    This whole thing with co-op members not doing anything gives me the impression that many just join to finish the task that requires you to contribute to a co-op (back in the earlier levels). Maybe for this task, they should just found their own, complete the task, and then they don't stuff others around by joining and doing nothing to contribute.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 30.03.2013
    I agree. We're really selective about who we get in our co-op. That said, it sounds like if people just want to do the "join/found co-op" task, they wouldn't just stop playing after they've done it, presumably. Maybe that stage of the game coincinded with the realization that people get when they find out that the game requires planning and patience makes more sense to explain why people just disappear. It's good that you are booting them but it sucks that you have to keep going through the process.

    If you have a problem with people using the co-op to do the task, they could join a co-op and complete the task, and then the polite thing to do would presumably be to leave so they could free up that spot for someone else.
  • sinz2sinz2 Posts: 58
    edited 31.03.2013
    i havent joined a co op yet because my farm is just keeping its head above water now, but i dont have 300 gold to start my own. i need the 100 gold it gives you so im stuck in no mans land. i could have joined someones co op lots of levels ago but i wouldnt be of any help to them...i thought i had to join and my friend in england said dont, not untill your at a high level and can contribute to projects...my apple orchard only goes every 2n day
  • jenn452jenn452 Posts: 5
    edited 31.03.2013
    Sinz-we'd be glad to have you in our co op! Mojo Mountain
  • Lifthrasir2Lifthrasir2 Posts: 9
    edited 31.03.2013
    I've found that a lot of people who join don't actually know what to do, and may be afraid to ask. (I know I didn't have a clue what I was doing when I founded ours.) Once a member sent a mail to everyone asking for the rundown on how the coop worked, it sort of clicked and I've been sending a nice welcome message (other than the welcome in coop chat) to new members letting them know that we're available via message or chat if they aren't sure what to do.

    I don't suspect it will work on everyone (some people may not be interested in the coop other than to clear those quests, and I understand that), and I'm pretty sure I'm still going to have to boot people from now until the end of time, but at least this way I know that I gave them an honest try.

    Our coop has been pretty good about planning when it comes to the tougher projects like apples, though, so that's a huge help. We make sure everyone is well stocked with fertilizer and knows that it's a tough project. If not, we can always default to an easy corn frenzy. :p
  • Sandi4848 (US1)Sandi4848 (US1) Posts: 50
    edited 31.03.2013
    We have also been sending messages to let everyone know what the project will be and to get ready for it and I have always sent welcome messages to new members telling them if they need anything to please ask or if they have tips or suggestions to please feel free to share. I also understand some of them are having a hard time adding to the collections as the amount goes up every time we do the project and they get frustrated and just give up.
  • mork2262mork2262 Posts: 15
    edited 31.03.2013
    I am the leader of a coop Woodgate Farm, on EN1, even though there is very little communication about the projects we seem to do alright. Everyone is a deputy and just gets on with it. Its only on the corn that seem to fall mainly to me but I dont mind because I know it will even out and they will do more than me at other times.

    Just remember folks, its only a game. If the task isn't completed, you can just start it again. I dont plan to boot anyone for not doing stuff.
  • Sandi4848 (US1)Sandi4848 (US1) Posts: 50
    edited 31.03.2013
    Then why even bother to have members? If I have to use my coins to start research projects and do all of the work myself then why should they get to reap the rewards? I agree having a failed project is ok but not one after the other I will not let one or 2 good members have to suffer all the work when 4 or 5 don't even bother to log in and take care of their own farms much less do any of the work!
    I also agree it is only a game but why play a game I know I am going to fail? Why put in the time and money if you don't care about getting ahead in the game?
  • Mirage4Mirage4 Posts: 2
    edited 31.03.2013
    What is the 'work' that needs to be done? I'm a super active player but am reluctant to join a coop because I'm assuming I have to donate all my harvests, is that true? Just by taking care of my own farm I move up in XP and levels but don't have enough money to upgrade everything that unlocks and becomes available so I'm nervous to have to give all my product away and get even further behind.

    So for the apple project you're talking about, does it count for the coop every time I harvest apples (I easily run each my orchards 5+ times per day), or do I have to actually donate the harvest to the coop for it to count?
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 31.03.2013
    You do have to donate dollars (and if you want gold). But this pays for Research, for instance, 'more types of apples'. And then you will get more for your all your apple harvests. Forever. So you more than get back over time what you have donated

    And you donate the collectibles, but you can't do anything else with those

    But if the co-op has to harvest 25,000 apples then it is totalled up, but you all keep your own apples, to sell or make into sauce or pie as you would be doing anyway
  • Lifthrasir2Lifthrasir2 Posts: 9
    edited 31.03.2013
    Mirage4 wrote: »
    So for the apple project you're talking about, does it count for the coop every time I harvest apples (I easily run each my orchards 5+ times per day), or do I have to actually donate the harvest to the coop for it to count?

    Nono, it counts when you harvest them. You don't have to donate them!

    Donations come in the form of the collection items (once you've donated all the required items, you can start a project; each project is different), dollars (for funding researchers and research), and gold (required on *some* research, but not all players will want to donate gold).

    But as far as your crops and such, those are yours. What's needed for the projects is the physical act of you collecting (harvesting) the item during the allotted time.

    [Edit] Rhon beat me. ;)
  • mork2262mork2262 Posts: 15
    edited 31.03.2013
    What you donate to the co-op is dollars and/or coins. Some Co-ops say you 'have' to donate so much every day/week to stay in. When you are doing a project do dont really have do do any donating, just collecting. The crop stays with you, it goes into your store, when you sell it the money goes to you. The number of say apples that you have collected counts towards the co-op target.
    I expect the guys/girls in my co-op to collect apples when the apple project is on. I cant see if they are, I just expect them to. That to me is 'work'.
  • Mirage4Mirage4 Posts: 2
    edited 31.03.2013
    Ok, that sounds better then. :) I get multiple invites to join coops all the time but I didn't want to join and then either have my farm suffer or disappoint them by not 'donating' enough.
  • thenightlighterthenightlighter Posts: 15
    edited 01.04.2013
    So send messages to your coop members and let them know you're unhappy with them & they should let you know if they expect not to log in for a couple (or a few) days. If they don't improve, you can kick them out of your coop you know!
  • FarmerTess (AU1)FarmerTess (AU1) Posts: 2,393
    edited 01.04.2013
    Mirage4 wrote: »
    What is the 'work' that needs to be done? I'm a super active player but am reluctant to join a coop because I'm assuming I have to donate all my harvests, is that true? Just by taking care of my own farm I move up in XP and levels but don't have enough money to upgrade everything that unlocks and becomes available so I'm nervous to have to give all my product away and get even further behind.

    So for the apple project you're talking about, does it count for the coop every time I harvest apples (I easily run each my orchards 5+ times per day), or do I have to actually donate the harvest to the coop for it to count?

    You do not donate your harvests to the coops, You might have a challenge [say for eg, apple challenge] where you have to harvest apples , this only means that all the members of the coop harvest their apple orchards and the coop gets a record of how many apples have been harvest in total by all the members. You still keep your apples to do with what you want. However you will be expected to donate money to your coop, and how much and how often depends on each individual coop leader.
  • PlayerDiamond3PlayerDiamond3 Posts: 13
    edited 01.04.2013
    The co op that i am in has exactly the same probs, we get new members and they either do nothing or get bored and dont bother any more. Its really frustrating !!!! Trying to find new players is also just as bad as there are so many co ops in the same position. We dont ask for donations of dollars or gold, our members give if they want to, we send msgs when we are starting something new, give each other advice on the game etc but we are struggling for members. its a shame that when co ops find themselves in this situation we cant merge together with another, pooling all resources. xx
  • Peggyegg (GB1)Peggyegg (GB1) GB1 Posts: 67
    edited 01.04.2013
    I am with mork on this one Sandi. The point is 'it is only a game' Our coop is Happy Hens and is ranked 26th. Our membership has only been added to. No one has been 'booted out' Some donate gold & dollars, some don't. Some are more active than others for different reasons. Mmm, I think the world in general is like this. What we do best is communicate with each other. I am aware when members are going to be off line for more than 3 days. I did have one member leave for a couple of weeks as she knew she would be off line for a while and felt she did not want to let the coop down. We were clear we would not fill her place and waited until she was able to rejoin us, which she did. Our members, like mork226 feel valued for who they are not what they do. Maybe that is the answer?Happy Easter:o)
  • stabbed2stabbed2 Posts: 1
    edited 02.04.2013
    i dont have a coop and cant seam to be able to join one, but as i am a beginner at this game i dont even know where to look to see what server i am on. :(

    im really active and would enjoy doing some team work getting targets completed, so everyone who is in a active coop should be happy to be honest

    im on lv 18, rep points 243
  • Pepper Moon (IN1)Pepper Moon (IN1) Posts: 6,684
    edited 02.04.2013
    It would be very easy to find for cooperative here and here

    Good Luck for your coop search. :)
  • Olivia Jones (US1)Olivia Jones (US1) Posts: 13
    edited 02.04.2013
    I am going to be offline this weekend so I told the other members not to plan on me to be there for projects and such. I have also asked our members to just drop us a line if they were going to not be logging in so we knew not to expect them to be assisting in projects such as harvesting apples...That one is so hard to do with just 2 members.
    but just doing nothing is unacceptable! no money for research, no help with projects and not even 30 seconds to say "hey I am going to be offline for a few days" The difference is you had a member tell you they were going to be away and you had a choice to save the spot or not. How can I value a member for anything other than what they do? Should I praise them for doing nothing? WOW! You did a great job of not logging in for a week! wooohooo thanks for giving us no help with any project EVER! I would LOVE to chat with them and get to know them but they are not interested in that so I am not sure what to value about them other than they are taking space that I could put someone else in that may or may not help!
  • Toni23User92Toni23User92 Posts: 7
    edited 02.04.2013
    My word of Advice is PUSH THE KICK BUTTON and find good farmers that help you out!!!!!
  • Peggyegg (GB1)Peggyegg (GB1) GB1 Posts: 67
    edited 03.04.2013
    Bridget, I do agree that that members not contributing anything and not communicating is unacceptable. The value aspect I refer to is a two way process, in as far as our coop members appear to value the coop as much as the coop values them.
  • italktofakesitalktofakes Posts: 74
    edited 09.04.2013
    I send them know the-mails and let them know there are certain times I wont be on the same time 2x's a day, and let them know the can ask me anything. I have had to boot people because they just don't log on or the last time I heard from someone was 6 days before. I tell them if they need extended time let me know and we can work it out. It has helped some but others are just there to finish the task.
  • mai15mai15 Posts: 185
    edited 09.04.2013
    We have been very lucky so far at our little coop. We are quite new, and we only reached level 7 so far, but everyone is contributing, the communication are excellent and we have lots of fun. I love our little coop. We have agreed to be a little laid back but also try to contribute as much as we can when we are doing challenges....and it is working so well :):)
  • nana28282nana28282 Posts: 133
    edited 17.04.2013
    I am in the same position. 2 people usually do everything; one doesn't even answer emails/posts and one does things only if they fit in with his own agenda. I am fed up.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 17.04.2013
    I found a cute little co-op here that is teaching people how to behave in co-ops and what they should do in terms of participating and contributing.

    I think it's a really good idea just so that people know what is expected. You can't just join a co-op and think that everyone will just give you stuff. Perhaps these guys can pave the way for getting overall better qualified co-op members... :)
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