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New deep sea fishing system Price&Cost Chart (Need some Feedback&Help too)

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  • holidayrox (US1)holidayrox (US1) US1 Posts: 328
    This is just a personal point of view about the contracts. Is not the rarest fish going to be the one with the most value?

    I have THOUSANDS of lobsters,swordfish,herring and tuna. Granted, if selling them directly, they are worth the most. But, since oysters and clams are the bottle necks for the contracts, I am much more careful of how I use them.

    Just an opinion.
  • Heather Norsk (US1)Heather Norsk (US1) US1 Posts: 7,346
    I think either the Water or Violet Seed price (or both) is wrong.. It's not working out on my new contracts.

    If anyone has a contract for water or violet seeds that has some solid numbers, I'd appreciate it. :)

    {Edit: Nevermind, I've worked out the new prices.  Water & Violet Seed Prices updated}:


    prices re-calculated in 2023 - - most of these are still correct, but I have some edits;

    We now get all types of event flower seeds, not just rose and violet, and all of them are 500,000 (rose, violet, sunflower, water lily, etc)

    They have added seaweed humus, value is 3,800,000
    and added seaweed greenhouse humus, value 3,000,000

    I no longer get any contracts for super duck feed, rakes or brushes so I can not comment on those, they might be obsolete in contracts.

    The following are adjustments. These are the current value when the extra item is the only one offered in the contract;
    WoF token is 2,300,000
    water is 190,000
    seaweed feed is 150,000
    super liquid fert is 31,000
    seaweed fert is 500,000

    When the contract offers 2 or more extra items, then the value of these are decreased. The decreased value has varied, and I have not attempted to figure how they determine/calculate these different values. However, any & all of the decreased values are closer to the # in Southern's chart above, again - this is just when combined with other items, such as 1 contract pays in cash, and water, and super liquid fert.
  • nuke9104 (US1)nuke9104 (US1) US1 Posts: 149
    @Heather Norsk (US1), I really appreciate the updates.  It might be nice if this was combined in a table, much like Southern had done.

    On a related note, someone posted the following about ordinary contracts (from the Organics Market, not the Fishing Market) in the BF Discord Server.  Maybe this isn't relevant to this topic, but it also raises the question if experience affects the Fishing Market contract values like it reportedly does for the Organics Market.


  • Heather Norsk (US1)Heather Norsk (US1) US1 Posts: 7,346
    Thanks for the idea, here is an updated chart, with a couple side notes;






    I'm not sure how to respond to the question about experience affecting the markets. Perhaps I am not reading that note from discord the same way, or understanding your question - but I don't see where the note says game experience affects the contracts. Here is some additional explanation, I hope something in here helps answer it;

    The last I ever heard, was that the organic market pays 5% over the barn value, but this is not something I have tested to be able to confirm or not.
    If a contract pays in cash only, it should be a mark-up of 5%. However, any item offered for trade in addition to the cash, has a contract cash value, so the amount of cash they offer is reduced by the value of that item - so the total value of what you are receiving for the items you give, will remain the same. But, this has nothing to do with experience*, it's the same across the board.

    The higher the level of the contract (levels are earned by filling more of them), give a bonus % up to a max** of 25% for a level 99 contract, so that's like free cash (or whatever items are being offered in addition to or in replace of cash)

    Upgrading Lester's Secret Stash lets you fill the contract with less items, so increases the profit that way.


    *perhaps by 'experience' you meant 'experience points (XP)? They, like anything else that might be offered in addition to cash for a contract, have a contract value placed on them by GGS. So, you will always get the same value for your items, just sometimes that value is paid 100% in cash, and other times for cash and something else.
    For example, if you have a contract that asks for 220 cod, based on the chart above, if that contract pays in cash only, you would get $2,310,000  (10,500 * 220)
    But if the contract asks for 220 cod and pays in cash and 1 WoF token, since the token value is 2,300,000, you would only get 10,000 cash
    If the contract asks for 220 cod and pays in cash plus 10,000 fishing XP, then you would get 2,210,000 cash plus the XP (10,000 * 10 = 100,000 = the cash value of the XP)


    **note: The only way to get a higher level contract is to buy a certain subscription package, but I am not familiar with which one, nor what potential increase there is from it. Without any subscription, the max is Level 99 for a bonus of 25%.
  • nuke9104 (US1)nuke9104 (US1) US1 Posts: 149
    Yes, I meant XP as something paid out by an Organics Market contract affecting the amount of cash you would receive from the same contract, not the amount of experience the player has.

    ...Darn English language :wink:

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