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Also, has anyone else noticed that if you are just sitting around collecting from your workers while waiting on crops that you get twice as much $$$ from them in the gourmet farm as opposed to the main farm?
Also, some players log in only twice a day, once before work and once after work. In these cases, cherries make much more profit per day than apples. It's the same way that making eggs is more profitable per hour than making milk. It really depends on how often you can check on your farm each day and your playing style.
The nice thing about the restaurant recipies is that they only take 100 apples or 50 cherries. Using apples and cherries in the restaurant recipes gives more profit than selling those apples or cherries. You can sell 100 apples for $4400 whereas you can make L1 applesauce for a cost of $500 (at 0% happiness) and sell it for $7400 or a profit of $6900. Even if the gourmet farm has +50% happiness, the cost raises to $750 and gives a profit of $6650.
Good point Juniper23!
What I have been doing (since I log in several times a day at different intervals) is take 100 apples from my production to use for Applesauce in the restaurant and sell off the rest knowing I have another crop of apples growing in the orchard. Same goes for the cherries, 100 cherries covers 2 batches of Cherry Juice (16 hrs) and my crop will be ready in 12 hrs so I sell off the remaining cherries. Hopefully, I can one day get to the point where I keep my stockpile of cherries and apples and just sell off whatever is excess above my stock limit. Unfortunately, this isn't the case right now as I am still spending a ton on upgrades and new items.
I'm more of a twice-a-day player, and I still find apples more profitable than cherries. While fertilizer production is low, profit can often be calculated more by income per fertilizer.
lvl 1 Cherries- 220/harvest, 180$ ea. Gross profit 39,600$ At 3 fertilizer per run that is 13,200$ per fertilizer
lvl 1 Apples- 325/harvest, 44$ ea. Gross profit 14,300$ or 1,100$ more per fertilizer.
Remember that anything left idle isn't doing anything more than taking up space, if you have to let an apple orchard sit idle in order to run a cherry orchard, you may be losing out simply on opportunity costs. Co-ops only make apples stronger, the only point I can see in getting a cherry farm is the xp from the quests and once you get enough fertilizer to keep your apples up to fit your play-style and still have surplus to sustain cherries. Even so, I'd recommend looking into getting more apple orchards, until space the space of multiple orchards overpowers fertilizer production.
The gourmet farm helps make cherries worthwhile, but for me, I simply plowed it under as soon as I got the exp from the quest to build it.
I just have my bakery and restaurant on my gourmet farm.
I did some basic calculation there.
Restaurant L1
Recipe - Cooking time |Price of Basic Ingredients | Selling value | Profit | Money per hr
Omlet - 20min 0450 1100 0650 1950
Apple Sauce 2hr30min 4400 7400 3000 1200
Yoghurt 4hr 3750 7500 3750 0937.5
Cherry Juice 8hr 9000 16000 7000 0875
Restaurant L2
Recipe - Cooking time |Price of Basic Ingredients | Selling value | Profit | Money per hr
Omlet - 20min 0450 1400 0950 2850
Apple Sauce 2hr30min 4400 9050 4650 1860
Yoghurt 4hr 3750 7500 5800 1450
Cherry Juice 8hr 9000 19800 10800 1350
Cabaage soup 2hr40min 15880 20000 4120 1548.8
I calculated everything but considering zero running cost. Since in my farm i usually have above -80 running cost. I have not included that in the calculation.
It will be nice if someone calculate with the running cost included.
I have done this, but it is hard to post and is not very informative because everyone's figure is different.
The main take-home from an analysis of the figures is that the new recipes are generally more profitable, and they clearly only get better as the restaurant grows. The vegetable soup recipe jumps massively in profitability from level 2 to 3, and then settles down.
I think you should have upgraded the houses instead of building more of them...
Apples vs cherries: I have found out, too, that even overnight, apples are more profitable than cherries...
With the same amount of fertilizer, 5th level orchards, -50% running costs, new variety of apple level 5 reserach,
1 cherry orchard gives 325*180 - 4347 = 54153
3 apple orchards give 3*(475*54 - 1520) = 72390
Even if it wasn't for research, 3*(475*44 - 1520) = 58140 would still be slightly better than cherries. But then of course one cherry orchard does take less room than three apple orchards.
I agree on that, but leaving your cherry orchard sit idle in my opinion is worse than 7 workers sitting idle looking for work + it's an extra income boost when you wake up
And not just that, once you get your distillery on the flower farm, cherries are also used to make floral perfume, which is good money as well
What I really meant was that I wouldn't upgrade or build a house unless I could find a job for most of my workers.
Cows Milk
Costs:- wheat is $723 for 90 and u only need 72 @ L3 for 10 CowFeed so cost is $578 and it costs $983 to mill it for a total cost of $1561
Profit/hr
One Cowshed at L3 every 7 hours produces 290 Milk which sells for $10,250 minus cost of $1,561 = Hourly Profit of around $1,300 !!!
when I look at profit from jam, it is one of the few times I do not use ingredient prices figured in - - my reasoning is too difficult to calculate the cost of sugar (which varies from jam to jam), and also a cost for the greenhouse fruits - - so I thought it unfair to consider orchard fruit costs (apple, cherry, etc) since I am not considering greenhouse fruit costs. This gives me an 'income' from each jam, but not necessarily correct 'profit' since I'm not considering the cost to make them, but at least I felt I was comparing them equally.
Also, my factories require different amount of fruit & sugar than you due to my workshop level, so my costs would vary there too.
For the 2 you mention, I see;
130 apple jam made in 2 hours
1 jam sells for $2100, so 130 of them sell for $273,000, or $2275 per minute
180 blackberry jam made in 5 hours
1 jam sells for $6500 so 180 of them sell for $1,170,000, or $3900 per minute
so I see blackberry jam as better income
There are different ways to look at the profit or uses. The Best King and ninjahuman both posted figures when the factory was new, maybe this would help you more? I believe ninjahuman considers ingredient costs in his calculations, and provides a link to a google spreadsheet where you can input your gourmet farm production value from happiness level to see the figures as they apply to you. In any case, they both provide solid #s with good math skills
Here is a link to that thread;
https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/210671/the-jam-factories-a-short-brief