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Do you believe in ghosts?

It's a bird... It's a plane... It's superman players!
Oh no, no It's probably Heckerman's!!
"If it doesn't make sense, it's usually not true".
GGS, seriously? How long have you been sleeping?
2 new ghosts players floating and hovering over all players in the game (on International 1 server).
All of a sudden, out of the blue, low-level players, without big, well-developed farms that take years to build,
defeat all the best, most experienced players, produce millions in missions at lightning speed and go on and on
and consuming everything that in their path.

Does that make sense to you?? Where are you?!
In Greta's or Tessa's dream world?
Maybe in outer space???

Only 2 people, as talented and rich as they may be, make more points than 2 of the best top
cooperatives on the server combined - that's more than 100 extremely active players!!
Please enlighten our eyes and explain to us how this is possible...

As the saying goes, one picture is worth a thousand words:

1.1 million feed in less than 3 minutes!!
[ screenshot removed - Rosy ]
And here's another one, see and judge for yourselves...
[ screenshot removed - Rosy ]
Army of 2?!

GGS, you've got some explaining to do!
Our patience is running out...
Time's a-ticking, Tick-tock Tick-tock!

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  • RosyStarlingRosyStarling Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 1,831
    Screenshots showing player names removed

    Please read the Community Guidelines on how to use the forum

    Have you considered the power of the various Boosters  and the Booster Board Badges?


      
          
  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,378
    No I do not believe in ghost, but I sure belleve in the power of booster badges on the booster board.  My booster board frame gives +80% to all badges on the board, plus then I have 4 Level 5 Goldfish combos on the board as follows:
    1. Position #1: Goldfish food = +180% boost in goldfish food harvest
    2. Position #2: Goldfish food & WF = +105% boost in goldfish food harvest plus +60% WF boost
    3. Position #4:  Goldfish food &Cabbage = +125% boost in goldfish food harvest plus +65% harvest in cabbage.
    4. Position #5: Goldfish food & Cabbage & WF = +165% boost in goldfish food harvest plus +50% harvest in cabbage plus +50% WF boost.

    So 180%+105%+125%+165%+80% = 655% boost in goldfish food. So my level 9 MF mill churns out 10,912 goldfish food at a time, and my Gourmet farm produces 79,464 goldfish food at one time.  By using a bit of gold to skip harvest and then clicking the swift seeder button over and over a player can easily harvest a million or more goldfish food in a short time.  I invested gold to get these level 5 goldfish food badges.  I bought once and then I have them forever to use whenever needed.  Hint: I did not buy all at once but over time.  It is an investment to better my farm and my ability to play well. I hope this helps you see the power of the booster badges.  As you can see I have a long ways to go to get all badges up to level 5...but that is one of my goals.



    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • Heather Norsk (US1)Heather Norsk (US1) US1 Posts: 2,192
    edited 22.08.2021
    I'm sure boosters were considered in that 1st comment. The point was, that the top coop in the INT gold league coop championship is just 2 players, their farm levels are low in comparison to the other top players; 1 player is only level 150s & the other is low 300s. They are also the top 2 players in the INT server CC, place 2 is almost 90 million points ahead of 3rd place player.  Yes, a player with only a level 150-ish farm has scored 90 million more CC points than players with farm levels 500+
    Without buying their way to the top, via boosters among other things, this would not be possible. Most players with farm levels 500+ have spent many years building up their farms to be able to produce this much stuff, and a level 150 just hasn't put in that much time. If players are able to soar to the top just by dropping a lot of cash, not many other players will continue to try to compete - it's a way to give up & not try, and feel like all that time & effort was all for naught.

    These 2 players have every right to be where they are at in rankings. If they choose to spend the cash, the way the game is currently set up, I don't see they have done anything wrong. I hope my words don't imply that I do. I do believe though, the original post was to point out to GGS how extreme the difference can be, especially with all the new additions, and the ramification it will have based on how it affects other players. So this is directed at the game developers, not the players who are using the new features to their benefit.

    If what magnet90210 reported is true & they harvested 1 million feed in less than 3 minutes, well that's just another example of buying their way to the top. 

    I'll use Artful's analogy again here; Olympic athletes train hard, many hours a day for years, preparing for their event. Imagine the Olympics come around, they race hard & all the athletes times and scores have been calculated. Then, right before they take the podium, 3 people (NOT the top athletes in the event) walk up to the judges & hand them a wad of cash & are escorted to the podium & awarded the gold, silver & bronze medals. 
    (Thanks artful, I read this analogy quite awhile ago in some post; I'm a little sad to see it still applies)
    Can you imagine what athletes would want to train hard after that, if that is all it ever takes to win?

    And then take that same thought to players here - many will not want to compete, or participate in events knowing that a few will just buy their way to the top; and it will make many feel gutted that they spent all that time & effort building their farms, for nothing. While it may be a way for GGS to make immediate cash from this game, I imagine & fear it most likely will threaten long term income from more players.

    P.S:  Players do buy & spend gold, that is not my beef & more power to them. There have always been those that can afford to buy more gold than others. That is not the point. For me the point is, the game has started offering a whole lot more that caters to those that can spend a whole lot more, switching this from a strategic farming game, to a pay to win game.


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  • yxhrjs (INT1)yxhrjs (INT1) INT1 Posts: 24
    edited 23.08.2021
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    in regards to booster board, do you really think that they can achieved with that kind of booster considering their growth spout and their current levels? 

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    @fFarmerCli (US1) said:
    No I do not believe in ghost, but I sure belleve in the power of booster badges on the booster board.  My booster board frame gives +80% to all badges on the board, plus then I have 4 Level 5 Goldfish combos on the board as follows:
    1. Position #1: Goldfish food = +180% boost in goldfish food harvest
    2. Position #2: Goldfish food & WF = +105% boost in goldfish food harvest plus +60% WF boost
    3. Position #4:  Goldfish food &Cabbage = +125% boost in goldfish food harvest plus +65% harvest in cabbage.
    4. Position #5: Goldfish food & Cabbage & WF = +165% boost in goldfish food harvest plus +50% harvest in cabbage plus +50% WF boost.

    So 180%+105%+125%+165%+80% = 655% boost in goldfish food. So my level 9 MF mill churns out 10,912 goldfish food at a time, and my Gourmet farm produces 79,464 goldfish food at one time.  By using a bit of gold to skip harvest and then clicking the swift seeder button over and over a player can easily harvest a million or more goldfish food in a short time.  I invested gold to get these level 5 goldfish food badges.  I bought once and then I have them forever to use whenever needed.  Hint: I did not buy all at once but over time.  It is an investment to better my farm and my ability to play well. I hope this helps you see the power of the booster badges.  As you can see I have a long ways to go to get all badges up to level 5...but that is one of my goals.



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    Yes, I have definitely considered the power of the various Boosters and the Booster Board Badges
    and it still doesn't make sense to me (their farms are not developed enough).

    I deleted the names from the screenshots and I upload them to you again:



    See for yourself and judge.
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    What do u mean by farm is not developed enough? All they need is a lvl 9 windmill. 
    Like Cli said it is completely possible. And 240 million rps is possible if they spun using tokens in CC wof. 5k tokens gives 10 million points and they would have bought enough needed to do it :o
    Its really costly but then again, its their money, so their choice.
  • Heather Norsk (US1)Heather Norsk (US1) US1 Posts: 2,192
    Exxy, I don't think anyone is asking to win every event, not even any event .... but that there is less desire to try and work hard at an event when the winners just buy their way to the top. The players aren't doing anything wrong, it's the way the game is set up. The developers have introduced a lot more stuff (boosters) lately making this less & less a strategy farm game, and more & more a pay to win game.  For the population that can not afford a lot of gold (or any), the changes & extreme boosters make effort at this game, sort of fruitless

    It used to be that if players worked hard and put time into the game, they could still do fairly good at events, maybe even win every now & again, but now it's just pay to win at everything it seems & that is what is disheartening.

    similar recent topic is here.... this one is about the use of the WoF during CC, but it's the same topic or same mood as far as players paying to win CC
    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/213169/new-event-the-cwofc#latest
  • RosyStarlingRosyStarling Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 1,831
    @yxhrjs (INT1)  all identifiable screenshots and names have been removed

    Please read the Community Guidelines on how to use the forum

    anyone else putting names and identifiable screenshots will get a warning

    It is costly but those results are achievable with the farms they have

    Having said that I have drawn GGS attention to the issue as so many are concerned
      
          
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,302
    These are not the first players to do this. Many other players have done things like collect several hundred million reputation points during a CC before. In fact, now it is even easier to do this due to all of the offers to buy things, in particular for missions as you can buy production boosters combined with booster badges and have a huge advantage. I took a look at their farms and one of them definitely has gold invested in alfalfa and feed booster badges. It doesn't appear to be likely that there are hacks or exploits involved in this situation.

    Dear Xxxy,
    None of us denies the fact that we love to win at every event :)
    At the same time, you know very well that we have no problem losing fairly and I don't remember that when we lost to you at the time at the village fair any of us complained against you about cheating.
    It's a matter of fair play!
    Who like you knows what is the abilities of the players in my cooperative are and how much money they invest in the game. Precisely because of this and after having a serious discussion between us on the subject and examining the matter of Booster Board Badges with much better farms, we concluded that even with massive use of money it is not possible to generate millions in 30 seconds as these 2 players do on almost every mission.

    For those of you who have argued that lately you can just buy your way to the top,
    unfortunately, there is justice in your words but not about these 2 players.
    It is not possible to do this if your land is under requirement and your labs still level 20 which can't make
    booster tokken at all...
    There is also the issue of time factor to consider.
    We believe there is a big difference between making millions in a few minutes and a few seconds!

    Honestly, all you need is to be able to use the CC WOF and to be able to buy tokens in order to get scores like that. Are you able to see the rankings for any of the CC WOFs and tell if they are at the top of the ranking for it or not?

    If you see them collecting reputation points at a very fast rate (not the items in the mission), that gives a very strong suggestion that they are using the WOF.

    This kind of thing is easily possible, especially when you consider the fact that there have been a few players that have collected over 500m points just from the CC WOF, or when there were a whole bunch of players that collected over 100m points each in some of those master league competitions for 1st, or even when someone saved up their tokens before and collected over 1 billion points in two consecutive competitions.
    ninjahuman @ au 1
  • MACA7 (INT1)MACA7 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2
    Clanovi moje coperative ne kupuju pobede, igraju posteno
    ali u ovom CC izgubili smo volju
    do sada nismo videli da neko moze tako brzo i toliko da prikupi u sekundi -jedino ako su supermeni:):) :) 
    :) ukoliko nastave tako  da igraju -bice interesantna borba kako u  sledecem tako i u svim  CC  koji slede


  • ChickadeeQuilterChickadeeQuilter Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 730
    Clanovi moje coperative ne kupuju pobede, igraju posteno
    ali u ovom CC izgubili smo volju
    do sada nismo videli da neko moze tako brzo i toliko da prikupi u sekundi -jedino ako su supermeni:):) :) 
    :) ukoliko nastave tako  da igraju -bice interesantna borba kako u  sledecem tako i u svim  CC  koji slede


    Translated using Google Translator: "The members of my coperative do not buy victories, they play fair but in this CC we have lost our will so far we haven't seen that someone can collect so fast and so much in a second - only if they are supermen :):):):) if they continue to play like that - it will be an interesting fight both in the next one and in all the CCs that follow"
    This is an English speaking forum.  Please refrain from using non-English posts.


                  
  • GREENPANDA (INT1)GREENPANDA (INT1) INT1 Posts: 330
    edited 24.08.2021
    [name censored] is a good man belive me, this is way how we are feeling for much years. Now we have a competition there. Becuase on INT servers same coop win everything and we only spend time and money for nothing. 

    Dont hate this is a game :) this is life 



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  • Φευγάτη (GR1)Φευγάτη (GR1) GR1 Posts: 200
    edited 24.08.2021
    [name censored] 
     is a good man belive me, this is way how we are feeling for much years. Now we have a competition there. Becuase on INT servers same coop win everything and we only spend time and money for nothing. 

    Dont hate this is a game :) this is life 



    So this is like a punishment to the coop that always win and take everything?
    Coz this is happening in all servers believe me.
    My coop always is at 5th-6th place or lower but never ask someone's help,to come from nowhere suddenly and make millions points per minutes to punish the best 2 coops?Why???
    To proove what and to whom?
    That i am Zorro?Really?
    In my opinion this not a healthy competition...that seems  like revenge to me from what I've allready read.
    And all this is sad to happening and allowing.




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  • GREENPANDA (INT1)GREENPANDA (INT1) INT1 Posts: 330
    edited 24.08.2021
    [name censored]  is a good man belive me, this is way how we are feeling for much years. Now we have a competition there. Becuase on INT servers same coop win everything and we only spend time and money for nothing. 

    Dont hate this is a game :) this is life 



    So this is like a punishment to the coop that always win and take everything?
    Coz this is happening in all servers believe me.
    My coop always is at 5th-6th place or lower but never ask someone's help,to come from nowhere suddenly and make millions points per minutes to punish the best 2 coops?Why???
    To proove what and to whom?
    That i am Zorro?Really?
    In my opinion this not a healthy competition...that seems  like revenge to me from what I've allready read.
    And all this is sad to happening and allowing.




    but you agree to win a coop all time this is not correct, i play on INT and i know who played with multiply acc and hates player this is reason you not need to hate. You not are on INT and you not know what happened there :) 

    we not win never Master League becasue some player played with hate 
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  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,597
    Well, to be honest

    That feeling, that you cannot do anything to win :)

    You have inflicted it on others many many many times 

    So you just feel what it does when it happens to you , we have to carry on ;)
  • Jesse123 (INT1)Jesse123 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,549
    edited 24.08.2021
    [name censored] 
     is a good man belive me, this is way how we are feeling for much years. 



    Agreed, he/she may have a good strategy which some may not be aware of and gold of course. 
    Probably because there wasn't much competition in our server, which made most of us stick to the usual play and the others give up and go in a flow. 
    I've seen individual accounts from other servers score more than them.

    Although I'm not sure if this will exactly even increase the competition except for 3-4 coops, because again the usage of gold plays a huge part, now that it's pay to win. Even if everyone uses a good strategy they wouldn't meet the expectations of the coop that uses the most gold. 
    Unless of course, they don't mind spending much. 
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  • SYB (DE1)SYB (DE1) DE1 Posts: 1
    edited 24.08.2021

    Come on, guys, you cannot be so naïve to believe that everything is okay with those two players.

    Just looking at the speed of how they level up their farms is not very credulous.

    Anyway, we have to accept that this game is plaid by humans. And as we all know: humans can be very destructive.

    I decided to handle the situation in my own way: make fun of their SILLY co-op description and shelve or end my missions with 0 points whenever I come across them.

    Should [ removed -Rosy ] on the international server decide to boycott the game and stop playing: YOU can count on me. I’ll be solidary with you.

    Happy farming!

    Sybil

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  • RosyStarlingRosyStarling Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 1,831
    Names are still being specified

    GGS are aware of the situation

    After discussion we have decided to close this thread
      
          
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