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Merge servers

Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
edited 04.05.2021 in Suggestions
Please merge some of these small servers, AU server is nearly dead and if GGS removed all the multi gold accounts it would be dead.  I would love to see the small servers either combine with US server, or allow us to have a 1 off migration to server of our choice.  We are losing players left right and center due to boredom I think even allowing us to change servers may help a LITTLE with this of co ops to go to and players to meet.  It may also spark more life back into the servers that go to due to more players on those servers.  

Even if GGS states these are the servers you can migrate to, 

Hungry, Greece, Slovakia, UK, Spain, Nordic, USA


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  • Please merge some of these small servers, AU server is nearly dead and if GGS removed all the multi gold accounts it would be dead.  I would love to see the small servers either combine with US server, or allow us to have a 1 off migration to server of our choice.  We are losing players left right and center due to boredom I think even allowing us to change servers may help a LITTLE with this of co ops to go to and players to meet.  It may also spark more life back into the servers that go to due to more players on those servers.  

    Even if GGS states these are the servers you can migrate to, 

    Hungry, Greece, Slovakia, UK, Spain, Nordic, USA


    When you say "migrate", I think of say, a farm level 200 on the AU1 servers moving to the Nordic server and maintaining the original level 200 farm only now instead of being on the AU1 server it is now on the Nordic server.  I understand that this is not possible.  But if you are truly desiring the entire AU1 server be literally merged with the Nordic server that hypothetical merge would need to be renamed.  I am new at moderation and I have no idea if such a "merge" is possible.  I will ask the team about it. :)
  • @ChickadeeQuilter thanks, I think best would be total server merges, even if they merged 3 or 4 of the small servers into 1.  I see what is happening on our small server and with the unhappy players from the last few 'upgrades' and total boredom from monotonous CC/HWE cycle, they are leaving.  We lost another after last CC, quit the game and was a gold buyer, high level, others in co op talking about quitting very soon, high levels.  

    I would like to see something happen before we lose too many more or afraid it will be too late.  I have given a couple other suggestion that may help with the small servers.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 04.05.2021
    BTW please don't take these as complaints, as they are not.  I can just see we won't have a server for much longer the way it is going.
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    It does not appeal to me. I have a farm on GB1, level 400+, it was boring so I packed it in and started afresh on AU1. As a small farmer, it's much more fun here. I can easily finish in top 50 of HWE and win lots of good stuff in this and other events. This would not be possible on GB1. I have also, in the past had a farm on SKN1; all the game text is in Danish; it was seriously hard work.
    Being able to take your farm to a different server as an individual decision might work but I reckon that forced merging of servers would lose players faster than they're going at the moment.
    If loss of players is a problem, GGS need to make the game more fun again, less pressured, less of a money-grab.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 05.05.2021
    The problem is, how many regular players are there on our server not counting the multiple accounts.  Then how many of them buy gold?

    It is a bit like how many doing VF, this is what I mean our server is dead. almost 1 day gone and very few are doing it, therefore not many are playing on our server at all, what is worrying me at this rate we won't have a server at all.  If not for the multi gold buyer accounts there would be no server for sure.  So thanks to those guys.

    Look at the participation for platinum league after almost 1 day, it is one thing to get very easy reward another not to have a server at all.  Interest ATM on AU server is nil, due to the monotonous cycle of events and greedy, terrible 'upgrades', what I am trying to say there has to be something done soon or there will be no players left.  Merging servers is really not the solution, but putting forward any idea that may help, before it is too late





    [Coop names removed - Rosy]


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  • mystique (INT1)mystique (INT1) INT1 Posts: 17
    I like the idea of a merge, was thinking about it a week ago

    would bring more life in the game, now, is like, gotta get outta here, the end is near

    so many stopped playing already, need something to be done soon

    i think sillyfront just doesn't give a damn, maybe they just need many servers to wash wash wash in machine :)))
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    I understand your concern @Dark Underworld (AU1) but VF is not a very good example. If you don't finish in the top 3, the prizes are not worth having, even foe a relatively low level player like me. Gone are the days when half the team could win 3 GMLs.
    On second thoughts, perhaps VF is a really good example, like so much of the game it has been gutted of opportunities to win gold. prizes are being down-graded across the board. Perhaps this is a deliberate policy by Sillyfront to get rid of all none gold buyers and then merge up the servers as a pay-to-play game.  :(
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    What is the point of that? The AU server has been like this for ages and then heaps of players and cooperatives will lose the ability to do well if we go and merge with the US server. I doubt any AU server will be able to get in the top 5 for any cooperative event in the US server.

    The whole server is not going to suddenly die either. There are a reasonable number of players that continue to play regardless of whatever happens.
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    edited 05.05.2021
    @Dark Underworld (AU1) You can always join a larger server & start there - We would love to have you as a member & I bet a number of other co ops on the US1 server would :)
     1 is allowed an account on each server they have access to - just not more than 1 on the same server with out written permission from GGS/Sillyfront as a family package agreement.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 05.05.2021
    @Data King (US1) I would love to take my farm to US server and join your co op, but I would never start again.  I already have a small farm started on US server but as I do not buy gold take too long to build to where I am now.

    As for VF example I posted on another thread even how CC numbers are dropping, ALL events are dropping in participation.  look at PP no one participates in it, not even 50 to get a free reward in highest level, 1 stall and yeah you are top 50, great work, this is how low participation is on AU server now.  Another example of no participation of event on AU server, GFR all it takes is buy a couple of gold fish and yeah you got rewards, just use fish token from last time it was there cost nothing takes no time, but very few players could even be bothered to do that. only 136 players even started it, I am only doing it this time as I have so much excess feed I am making feed and bait in my mill to run my feed stocks down, due to another "GREAT UPGRADE" from GGS the lavatory.  I also normally only buy the 1 goldfish at start and forget about it, get a few WoF tokens for nothing.  This is another waste of space event.

    What I feel this all comes down to, is GGS is more concerned about trying to make CC more enticing eg new Obsidian farm, then trying to keep players from leaving.  The FL was only brought in to try to get player to spend more in CC as numbers were dropping, now the numbers must be dropping off again, so instead of something new. Like making new farm available for all and ALL players could spend a little gold on, if they wanted, they just want the big gold spender to spend up on the CC again.  GGS has only 1 thought we NEED CC it is the only way we can make money from this game.  When they should be listening to their players not driving them away.



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  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 05.05.2021
    Here is a really good screen shot to show how few players are playing on AU server.  Screen shot of WWC lowest players in highest section.  ONLY 175 of our highest ranked players did any thing that is if you call even 6.905 points in an entire month playing (rank 164) and only 76 players in the month were on enough to get 100k WWC points, this is a real indicator of how few players are playing on AU server, my total almost 1.7M (No gold or weed, I do have $5 subs, meatball is my favorite :) )

    Very hard to join an active co op when there are only 100 player max on the whole server that are active including the multi accounts.


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  • and another of proof nobody even interested in playing on our server our current FL event.




  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    @Data King (US1) I would love to take my farm to US server and join your co op, but I would never start again.  I already have a small farm started on US server but as I do not buy gold take too long to build to where I am now.

    As for VF example I posted on another thread even how CC numbers are dropping, ALL events are dropping in participation.  look at PP no one participates in it, not even 50 to get a free reward in highest level, 1 stall and yeah you are top 50, great work, this is how low participation is on AU server now.  Another example of no participation of event on AU server, GFR all it takes is buy a couple of gold fish and yeah you got rewards, just use fish token from last time it was there cost nothing takes no time, but very few players could even be bothered to do that. only 136 players even started it, I am only doing it this time as I have so much excess feed I am making feed and bait in my mill to run my feed stocks down, due to another "GREAT UPGRADE" from GGS the lavatory.  I also normally only buy the 1 goldfish at start and forget about it, get a few WoF tokens for nothing.  This is another waste of space event.

    What I feel this all comes down to, is GGS is more concerned about trying to make CC more enticing eg new Obsidian farm, then trying to keep players from leaving.  The FL was only brought in to try to get player to spend more in CC as numbers were dropping, now the numbers must be dropping off again, so instead of something new. Like making new farm available for all and ALL players could spend a little gold on, if they wanted, they just want the big gold spender to spend up on the CC again.  GGS has only 1 thought we NEED CC it is the only way we can make money from this game.  When they should be listening to their players not driving them away.

    I'm not really sure why you are suggesting this though. Almost no one in the AU server is going to rank as well as they currently do in events. I understand if you are concerned about the size of the server, but there are going to be a huge number of disadvantages for a lot of players in the AU server so I am sure you would understand why some players would not support this idea.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 07.05.2021
    the big problem is on AU server there are NO ACTIVE co ops, for active players there.  The problem with this is the ACTIVE players get tired of doing ALL the work so the rest get to collect the rewards from the efforts.  There are not even enough active players on our server to fill 2 co ops if they joined together.

    This is the big problem


    We have 5 members in our co op, ready to leave as tired of doing ALL the work for the rest to get easy rewards, we would go to another co op, but it is exactly the same in others. look at how little is done on our server in WWC, show how inactive our whole server is so for active players this is bad as there are very few of us.  This is why I would love to be able to take my farm to a bigger server,  find a co op, where there are no leeches, or merge servers, so at least there would be more active players and leeches can go into co ops by themselves.

    Our server is great for the players that want to sit back and do nothing and get all the rewards

    If there are Any active players that want to join AU server please contact me.  If you want easy rewards as you can see AU server is the place to be, I know there won't be many takers as who want to start all over again

    This shows how little the rest of my co op does when a couple of players that do all the work are away.  I am away for 7 days waiting for next WWC to start our leader is away, without us our co op that is always top 5 are now looking at relegation to silver.  This show how little the rest of the co op does, there are 3 other player that do help.  I have also asked for other solution ie, Individual Championship alternating with CC, for those of us that are active and those who are not in co ops.  There is CHWE and HWE why not IC and CC.  I would actually prefer just IC but that would never happen
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  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    Leeches are really not hard to deal with. In my GB1 co-op, players who scored zero in a CC found themselves booted before the CC ended; no prizes without effort!
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 07.05.2021
    we have 39 member only 5 ever do anything, we can't even get them to put horses into meadow, which costs them NOTHING ( more horses in meadow higher chance of success breeding), they don't help on village, VF, CHWE, GDW (GDW they come over let us do the work so they get Diamonds, but do nothing) no use in booting them on AU server as spots only get filled with the same.  No use going to another co op on AU server they are ALL the same.  At 1 stage I ( group of 5 players) were going from co op to co op to help them get top 5, then we had players complaining saying that was cheating, even though we were doing most of the work.  They were upset because we were pushing them out of top 5.  We stopped doing that.  But it showed how easy it was  top 5 of little group of 5 players could put any co op on AU server into top 5 using no gold.
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    Many people would say "Why should I work for something I can have for free?"  but many would be willing to pull their weight if free ceased to be available.
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    the big problem is on AU server there are NO ACTIVE co ops, for active players there.  The problem with this is the ACTIVE players get tired of doing ALL the work so the rest get to collect the rewards from the efforts.  There are not even enough active players on our server to fill 2 co ops if they joined together.

    This is the big problem


    We have 5 members in our co op, ready to leave as tired of doing ALL the work for the rest to get easy rewards, we would go to another co op, but it is exactly the same in others. look at how little is done on our server in WWC, show how inactive our whole server is so for active players this is bad as there are very few of us.  This is why I would love to be able to take my farm to a bigger server,  find a co op, where there are no leeches, or merge servers, so at least there would be more active players and leeches can go into co ops by themselves.

    Our server is great for the players that want to sit back and do nothing and get all the rewards

    If there are Any active players that want to join AU server please contact me.  If you want easy rewards as you can see AU server is the place to be, I know there won't be many takers as who want to start all over again

    This shows how little the rest of my co op does when a couple of players that do all the work are away.  I am away for 7 days waiting for next WWC to start our leader is away, without us our co op that is always top 5 are now looking at relegation to silver.  This show how little the rest of the co op does, there are 3 other player that do help.  I have also asked for other solution ie, Individual Championship alternating with CC, for those of us that are active and those who are not in co ops.  There is CHWE and HWE why not IC and CC.  I would actually prefer just IC but that would never happen
    I don't really know the circumstances of what is going on in your cooperative, but if you want to have a cooperative with active players then perhaps you can just create one and only let active players into it.

    Leeches are really not hard to deal with. In my GB1 co-op, players who scored zero in a CC found themselves booted before the CC ended; no prizes without effort!
    Players that get 0 points in the CC don't get the ranking rewards anyway. They do in the other events though.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 08.05.2021
    @ninjahuman (AU1) that is the problem on AU there are VERY few active players, 100 players max I would consider active, including multi accounts.  Starting new co op, won't help as there are not enough active players
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    @ninjahuman (AU1) that is the problem on AU there are VERY few active players, 100 players max I would consider active, including multi accounts.  Starting new co op, won't help as there are not enough active players
    But you said that you and the other players can get top 5 in the CC by yourselves right? So then it wouldn't really be too bad. I think every cooperative has this issue.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 08.05.2021
    @ninjahuman (AU1)  yes EVERY co op on AU server has this issue, which my EXACT point.  Why we need a merge or allow those who want to go to another server which they can find ACTIVE co op.  The other solution is to unblock all multi accounts on OUR server, they allow gold buyers to have multi account but mine were blocked, at least this would allow more farms on our server
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    @ninjahuman (AU1)  yes EVERY co op on AU server has this issue, which my EXACT point.  Why we need a merge or allow those who want to go to another server which they can find ACTIVE co op.  
    You are aware that it would become much harder to do well in events because of the larger amount of competition though right? So I think it would work out best if it was an optional merge (like every player can choose whether they want to go to another server or not). But it may lead to some complications that we don't know about at the moment.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 08.05.2021
    I am totally aware it will become harder to do well in events, isn't that the point?  Do you really earn something if you get it easy, what have you REALLY achieved, as for those who do nothing, well I myself could not handle leeching off others.  I am aware I would not win WWC, without using gold or weed, I do know, even taking 1 week off of temp farms I would not be top 10 (no gold)  I do know even taking 1 week off I would not be top 5 of horse challenge.  I do know this.  I also know it would take more than 5 players to get top 5 co op of CC

    No way I should be able to finish top 10 of every temp farm using no gold, when I take a whole week off (1/4 of the time) same with horse challenge

    I also know I would not be ranked 7th on server and leading achievement leader board
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  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 08.05.2021
    I wish that the leader could set a minimum amount of RP for rewards, when you go past that amount of rp you receive the rewards the co op has earned, if you don't reach that amount NO rewards at all.  ie a co op leader should be able to say set amount at 200k rp anyone under that by the end of CC get no rewards, no hard work rewards, no final rewards. This amount should be adjustable to whatever the leader want and should be set before CC starts.  Some leaders might want 10M RP per player others may want 0.  Then you may find the leeches have to actually do something, even if it is spin the wheel to get their quota for the co op, I myself would set it at 500k per player
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  • rhon (GB1)rhon (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,542
    Your co-op leader can deal with the situation. Speak to him

    He can boot those who don't take part. If he wishes.

    If he does not want to then find another co-op where the leader agrees with your point of view.

    Many co-ops no longer care about the CC. It sounds like your co-op leader is of that opinion

    My co-op does not believe the effort for the rewards is worthwhile and put no effort in.

    I can't see how merging servers, even if it was possible, would solve the issues you have.


  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    I am totally aware it will become harder to do well in events, isn't that the point?  Do you really earn something if you get it easy, what have you REALLY achieved, as for those who do nothing, well I myself could not handle leeching off others.  I am aware I would not win WWC, without using gold or weed, I do know, even taking 1 week off of temp farms I would not be top 10 (no gold)  I do know even taking 1 week off I would not be top 5 of horse challenge.  I do know this.  I also know it would take more than 5 players to get top 5 co op of CC

    No way I should be able to finish top 10 of every temp farm using no gold, when I take a whole week off (1/4 of the time) same with horse challenge

    I also know I would not be ranked 7th on server and leading achievement leader board
    Ok. Now I see where you are coming from with the other suggestion. In one way it makes sense as these players can continue to get the rewards without much effort due to the size of the server. But I don't know if there are circumstances within each cooperative that cause those kinds of things. I'm just not really sure that merging the server with another is the best option to resolve this though.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 08.05.2021
    I am putting lots of suggestion forward as the number of active members on our server is getting less all the time.  Every week we are losing active players and every event participation is getting less and less.

    @rhon (GB1)  co op leader can't do much as there are very very very few active players at all on our server.  I mean we would be LUCKY to have 100 active players and that is pushing it.  If ALL the active players joined together you would be lucky to fill 1 co op, including the multiple accounts.  so what is the point of removing from co op.  I posted screen shot of different events showing how few players we actually got now on our server, but I can't name on here the actual multiple accounts but there is a lot in the top of the active players, my opinion is let them stay anyway as we need as many farms as we can get on our server even if some players have 4 or 5 farms they buy gold for.  I think that GGS need to unblock the non gold buyers multiple farms as well just to increase the number of active farms on our server.  On AU server there are NO co op for active players there are just not enough players
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    Just to be clear @Dark Underworld (AU1), when you are talking about inactive players in your co-op, do you mean "red dots" or just players who don't help with events ?
  • Autumnferret (US1)Autumnferret (US1) US1 Posts: 1,168
    The problem I see in "merge" is user names are unique to that server. There may be players with the same user names on different servers. Give people the option to change their names??? I'm sure there is some way around this if they want to make the effort.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 09.05.2021
    @Uncle John (AU1) no I mean player that do very little even if they are on every day, some players don't even search for missions,  during CC, I consider active players anyone that in 1 month of WWC can achieve around 100k wwc points.  which is only just over 3571 points a day, which does not take much (this is for high level, lower levels this is a lot less) , I myself do 1.7M average of 60,714 per day.  If it was red light that is easy fixed.  AU server there are not even 100 players on enough to be considered active, our server only had 175 players in top league of WWC (in total) last time and only around 75 got to the 100k wwc points.  These numbers are dropping, which is the problem as  this is truly the best indicator of activity on server, it shows how much players are participating in events, including weekly events, tending to normal farms, doing temp farms, horses, village, any thing players participate in,  I do more in 2 days then most on our server do in a month, I use no gold or weed, but I am on the other extreme and don't expect that from anyone.  It is fine that players, play their own way and time, but for active players to find an active co op on AU server is impossible

    I would love to see from other servers how many players got over 100K WWC points last month (highest league), just to compare.  This can be found on ranking tab. 77 made 100k on AU server and 2 got close.

    Those at the bottom of WWC ranking on our last page, I suspect have quit the game early in the month as that is only a couple of harvest of their entire farm or only log on 1 or 2 times a month




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