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They don't even give the mods any info to pass along to us, which isn't that great for the mods either, I'm sure it puts them in a bad spot. The mods do a great job and are appreciated.
I hope they do not consider those changes quite yet. I hope they still give water and breeding seeds. Until there is a more steady income or possibility of catalysts, many still need the nurseries to make special seeds. Also, lower level players can get nurseries up and running long before they can afford to build and upgrade a lab to make all of them.
Pro's
- addition of the donkey community building
- the jam factory gives us another use for some greenhouse items besides Barnacle's ship (this might be just a pro for long term players and not newer ones, but it is for me)
Con's
- loss of event item drops from the lab (this impacts a lot of events, and reduces chance of completing some of the more difficult ones)
- booster tokens usage limited with decreased availability of premium feed & fertilizer (regular feed only accepts 2 tokens in many places that premium accepts 3, and tokens previously placed on premium feed & fert may sit stagnant until more is earned or won elsewhere)
- WWC points opportunities reduced in several different ways (not getting any from harvesting the lab, not being able to complete higher level events, [temporarily] not being able to always fill Barnacles' ship, etc)
- the option to build higher level catalysts from the lower ones was removed from the lab. (Even if a player has the cash to upgrade the lab now, they may not have the opportunity to make anything in the higher levels. In the 4 years the lab has been around, I have never used a single legendary catalysts but don't have enough to make even 1 GML. Without increased opportunity for catalysts of all types, there isn't anything to make the cost nor the space worth owning a lab)
- finding space on GF for the Jam Factory (for a lot of long-time players, that means demolishing 1 or more production buildings or waiting until they can upgrade a diamond building. Jam factory is not an option for a player wanting to fill Barnacle's ship at the harbor, but a necessity.)
Exxy listed a con as “minor” loss of XP ….. on my MF & GF alone, I am losing a minimum of 300,000 XP per day. That’s a little more than “minor” IMHO (I am not a full day player; for those who might have the opportunity to play more hours, the loss would be far greater). I agree it's a 'con', I just personally disagree with the word "minor".
Exxy listed a ‘pro’ to be able to make a lot of SS. I don’t see how that’s a pro for most players; I can see it as a 'pro' for just the players who have a lot of fields. I already make more SS than I can use with the nursery, but because I choose to have more of other buildings, not focus on fields.
Exxy listed as a ‘pro’ for the cash income from the jam factory, but if that pro is kept then there should also be a ‘con’ for loss of income from loss of option of constant premium feed & fertilizer. And whilst I agree the jam factory has 'potential' for large income, I see it as a long term potential as it’s dependent on sugar drops from fruit orchards which limits sugar for many players, just as catalyst shortage now limits the lab. Until we see a lot of sugar coming in, I just can’t count it as a pro quite yet. I have a good # of orchards, but have not been able to keep just 1 jam factory running non-stop.
@"Exxy (INT1)" I want to thank you for always being positive, and putting out such a nice list to point out the positive sides of the update. I just wanted to add a different viewpoint on some, and the additional pros/cons that I noticed.
Don't hold your breath waiting for any action on the Labs, it's not going to happen
While i do agree that i would like for the production in the lab to be less limited by catalysts than it is now, i think it is reasonably balanced right now, of course, there's the dollar refund for players who had already bought and upgraded it which should really happen.
And there's also the premium farm goods which i have to say i agree with their decision mostly to make them a lot harder to produce.
I think that the lab's much more balanced now, of course, the way gs handled it is pretty bad, as previous suggestions have already said, they could have given us a warning period to a) give us time to adapt and b) allow for the pre-update feedback.
In terms of the jam factories, @Alaa Ali 1 (INT1) while i can understand that you're short on fruit sugar, it does add some value to the orchards, especially apples, considering that besides the weekly events, maybe the hwe's and the organic market contracts, apples are not very useful in-game, there's not too much motivation to have lot's of apples/cherries/peaches and i think the dairy and jam factories combined gave a little more deserved use to them
I don't want to leave my friends here but I don't want to stay until they decide they are going to mutilate other parts of the game.
I mean what about Lester's tree? Matilda's Farm Academy?? I have worked hard playing and saving farm cash to upgrade the 3 labs I had, now have 1 worthless lab...Lester's tree is level 20, and Matilda's Farm Academy is level 24. That was a lot of clicking, some gold, and a few years of work that they will eventually take away from me.
I don't want to think I have wasted all my time and effort but they do not care about any of that, it means nothing to them that I have been a dedicated player since 2015 and have spent far more real money here than I should have.
I am beyond frustrated and appalled that they cannot even acknowledge they have hurt the players in their miserable upgrade that was nothing but a down grade to the players.
Oh and every time I log in there is a 120% gold deal in my face. Guess what...I am done supporting this game with gold.
I get that they are trying to work on lab and most likely come up with a "slight" fix to the lab but it will never be like it was before so the tree and academy are probably junk now as well.
I apologize to everyone for my "whining, ranting, and what not" here in the forum.
I have come to realize that I have to move on. The game no longer makes me happy. I log in and get angry. Games are supposed to be fun.
23rd, my only remaining subscription will be up. I need to step away for my own sanity.
And when people are all acting up, its GG fault for making them leave
Be an adult, and assume the decision that the game is'nt fullfilling your needs or what you are looking for in a game , and take the decision for yourself
( There is nothing wrong , if u feel the game doesnt provide you enough satisfaction )
Everyone is free to choose what game they play after all
People come and goes , for many different reasons
Everyone is different, I work fulltime, 10 hours a night. I came here since 2015 to relax and play. For the last 2 years this hasn't happened.
How long have you been playing? Were you here when the game was nice? I was, sorry I no longer care about events, silo is sitting empty right now...because I don't care. I haven't harvested cows, ducks or goats in a few days, because I don't care anymore.
Glad you still love the game, after all they do need someone.
Sadly , Big farm is the type of game, that is likely to optimize your stuff , if you spend time on it or money
And even more, if you care about competitiveness
Some past-times are much more time-consuming than others
I don't believe for one minute masses are leaving the game, if they were then something would be done sooner to address the situation
Bottom line its not really effecting game play in a massive way, yes its a pain but it's not the be all and end all doomsday
Agreed. I wish they would remove it from the boat.