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  • LeMoi (US1)LeMoi (US1) US1 Posts: 20
    Hi, all. I am posting this for my friend [CENSORED], he can't access the forum anymore, the login is not working.
    From [CENSORED]:

    Well, it looks like this Subject is winding down and that nothing is going to be done about the Labs. Unlikely at any rate, after a week and a half and hundreds of comments from unhappy players, many of which have been taken down. So, here’s my parting 2 cents, addressed to GGS.
    At the very least, I feel that you owe us a reply.

    I feel cheated because something valuable was taken away from me.

    I feel betrayed because I played by your rules to earn what I had built the right to produce, only for you to change the rules to my detriment, seemingly without a care.

    I fell disrespected because the opinion that I seem to share with so many others goes unanswered.

    I feel disappointed that my enjoyment in playing this game, relying on your offered systems appears to be of no concern to you.

    I feel deeply offended that my only apparent value to you is my willingness to spend real money (which I keep doing) to buy your make-believe gold, that can only be spent on a make-believe game, that ultimately has no real world value. You take our money and offer us entertainment, which I applaud, but you then return our loyalty with grief, deceit, broken trust, what appears to be total disregard for our displeasure at accepting whatever it may be that you wish to do with us. 

    If your actions continue to be all Take, with little Give, the long term sustainability of the Game that we who’ve played and paid for it for more than a little while is largely in doubt. But then, I’’m beginning to wonder if you really care.

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    ~ EDIT BY BM BUGS BUNNY - I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU POSTED THIS ON BEHALF OF YOUR FRIEND, HOWEVER IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO MENTION NAME OF ANOTHER PLAYERS ACCORDING TO THE COMMUNITY GUIDELINES AND SINCE THERE IS NO VERBAL CONFIRMATION IN THIS CASE FROM YOUR FRIEND, ILL UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO REMOVE THE NAME, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS MORE ON THIS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MESSAGE ME. THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING.



    np, Bugs, ty for your reply. my friend can't post for some reason, i will let him know.
  • BillJohn (US1)BillJohn (US1) US1 Posts: 75
    Looks like I'm going to have to give this update some more time before reaching a conclusion.  Yes, disappointed the effort to upgrade the old lab at considerable cost in time (no gold here) down the drain. That's the big con.  The pro is another way to make some decent profit from jam sales.  I need to get a jam factory built, and then see if my playing style can be adapted so it makes more than enough profit to offset the increased cost due to limited ability to use premium products in the future.  My sense of the situation is there will be a way to overcome and the farmers will survive the adoption of the new technology on their farms.  That's what we call progress.  
  • Hello .
    The last update come with a bug for subscription.
    We can't repeat continue to repeat after a cherry for exemple got repetead,and we keep lose time with this...at apples,fields,islands etc.
    Before de update we could repeat after 10-30 min got repeated,now,we need to wait 24h for a cherry if we repeated .....
    So what happened?
    we lose products,money,dollars,gold ,resources. :)

    Smile , one day everything will be fine ...
  • Spurgiukas (INT1)Spurgiukas (INT1) INT1 Posts: 235
    edited 08.02.2021

    LeMoi (US1) ,

    [link removed - Rosy]

    try this,worked for me a week ago

    Post edited by RosyStarling on

                                                                 
  • RosyStarlingRosyStarling Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 1,820
    @Spurgiukas (INT1) and @[email protected]"Lemina (RU1)"

    On the 20 th January we asked you in the Mod New Bulletin to not use this workaround 



    We do know how annoying this is for everyone and we have been told that the log-in issue will be resolved soon

    The workarounds had to disabled in order to make the permanent fix work.
      
          
  • Spurgiukas (INT1)Spurgiukas (INT1) INT1 Posts: 235
    but it works, worked for me :) 

                                                                 
  • fatcat (GB1)fatcat (GB1) GB1 Posts: 23
    More catalysts please
  • bigez (US1)bigez (US1) US1 Posts: 102
    those jams are the worse you lose to many horseshoes
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    Where did my pig sty comment go?

    It was a part of the Jan updates!



    The Wintry Pig Sty needs to work on Tropical pig stys also.

    gavinfarms @ us 1
  • BugsBunnyBugsBunny Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 1,407
    edited 09.02.2021
    @BugsBunny My quote from the German forum meant to emphasise that GGS upset 92mln players, sorry I missed that announcement.
    @Heather Norsk Can never log in the forum without that complicated procedure to change your password (it still works BugsBunny!). Might be intentional?
    @LeMoi I feel exactly the same as your friend: cheated, betrayed, disrespected and disappointed. I feel like I bought a pair of decent shoes by Louboutine, GGS took them from me and gave me a pair of slippers instead that are too small for me. They want me to pay more to exchange them for the right size. That's not right. I don't want to pay extra for the pair of slippers. I rather destroy them.
    @ GGS I left the biggest coop in the UK server at the end of October 2020: too many non-stop coop events, the same prizes, too much pressure for no return (I am not the only one who decided to stick to a one-member coop). I have been the top player for the FL many times (the first one last event) but now I don't care about it and you should be worried about it (there are plenty of other players leaving the game). I don't compete anymore and I don't push anyone to spend their gold/seaweed. Once again, this is a simulation of RL and when you are disgusted with your RL partner who repeatedly cheated on you, appalled with your boss who releatedly abused you, with your friend who betrayed you, you just finish such relationships.
    I don't expect any positive changes. Enjoy your farming the ones who still bother about it:)

    @-Tigerlily- (GB1),

    As assured above by my teammates Rosy and Chickadee, we are passing on everything you give us as a feedback, each and every point from you guys are valuable and all are passed in :) 

    I am waiting to see how GGS react to our reactions. They may yet adjust some things back in our favor.


    Hahahahahaha your funny.   

    I can't even FIND my last post here.   Probably swept under the rug.   I did see pages more complaints though.   Someone posted how they contacted support and copied their reply.   THAT got swept away as well.   The reply must have really made GG look bad.  

    Yea, I see nothing but complaints.   IT's fine, I haven't even logged into any of my farms since my last post (which seems gone now)  and know what?  I haven't really missed it.

    what WAS fun, suddenly just isn't.

    @Artmaker (GB1)

    This is very untrue, it is not allowed to post conversations with support in the forums, it doesn't really matter if its either negative or positive we can't allow that, please refer to the community guidelines.

    The workarounds had to disabled in order to make the permanent fix work.
    So when the "existing remedial measure of resetting password"  is no longer the way to get in, how will we know?   If we can't get in?   That's been the ONLY way I could get in for many many months now. 

    Not that there is much need.   Only come here when I need something figured out about the game but since the lab mess I haven't played.  



    The existing remedial measure was verbally cancelled because using that again and again may lead to some complications on your forum account after we address the issue with a proper fix in place, you can read the forums without logging in though.


    Kind Regards,
    Bugs Bunny
                  
  • jorisvanvlijmen (NL1)jorisvanvlijmen (NL1) NL1 Posts: 191
    edited 09.02.2021

    This is very untrue, it is not allowed to post conversations with support in the forums, it doesn't really matter if its either negative or positive we can't allow that, please refer to the community guidelines.

    The workarounds had to disabled in order to make the permanent fix work.
    So when the "existing remedial measure of resetting password"  is no longer the way to get in, how will we know?   If we can't get in?   That's been the ONLY way I could get in for many many months now. 

    Not that there is much need.   Only come here when I need something figured out about the game but since the lab mess I haven't played.  



    The existing remedial measure was verbally cancelled because using that again and again may lead to some complications on your forum account after we address the issue with a proper fix in place, you can read the forums without logging in though.


    Kind Regards,
    Bugs Bunny
    This link is working to logon into your forum account, it worked for me, while im not able to logon at the normal page, this one does.

    [link removed - Rosy]

    Post edited by RosyStarling on
  • ChickadeeQuilterChickadeeQuilter Moderator, ModGreen Posts: 725
    Where did my pig sty comment go?

    It was a part of the Jan updates!



    The Wintry Pig Sty needs to work on Tropical pig stys also.

    The "Wintry Pigsty" is a part of the Valentine topic and not the January Update Discussion.  I tried to move it to the appropriate location.


                  
  • Jasist2 (INT1)Jasist2 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 133
    This update, to summarize, would be good mechanics, poor balancing, and a semi-complete system. 
    1. New features/ mechanics completion. This update introduces uses for catalysts, which were left in the game for over a year for some reason. You could make new things with the new lab, which is more useful than the previous lab. The jam factory also "revive" some greenhouse fruits that they are now worth producing for the jam factory. However, the new lab is set to produce special seeds, which makes the Nursery and greenhouse almost useless. Therefore, 3 new/upgraded mechanics and 2 mechanics downgraded/ become excess, but have increased options. 

    2, Poor balancing. CC offers 8 legendary catalysts per run, and HWE + CHWE offers 86 legendary catalysts per run. A high-level player, assume it is able to collect all rewards in CC and HWE, will result in around 100 legendary catalysts per week (considering better rewards for higher-level players). This amount may not be enough for the players that wish to use the lab comprehensively. 
         As for premium feed, with HWE offering about 500 rare catalysts, making 10 premium feed ranges from 4 to 32 rare catalyst, which the available reward is not sufficient for the players to maintain functional farm solely using premium feed. In fact, all rewards of catalysts are not enough for players to rely on, to maintain normal function of their farm. 

    3, Semi-complete system. The jam factory only has 9 levels and 9 types of jam to make. However, there are 12 different greenhouse fruits, 4 of each from 3 temp farms. Would there be more types of jam to produce? In addition, would the greenhouse and nursery get a new function? On the bright side, this update shows that GGS would add new function for incomplete/semi-complete features, I am hoping that the Airport can be complete soon. 

    4. Suggestions. It is clear that the total amount of catalysts reward is not sufficient for daily farming use, so the  total amount of catalyst rewards should increase, at least triple the current amount. Given that some may not need all types of catalysts. For example, the ordinary catalysts can be replaced by the nursery and greenhouse, or some may not care about the boosters. I suggest that we can trade one type of catayst for another, or allow choice of different types of catalyst in the rewards. In addition, we should be able to earn catalysts through other events (events other than HWE and CC), such as urgency deliver, WWC, Village Fair (I hope VF have personal rewards in non-seasonal months), harvesting from fields/animals/orchards, etc. The amount of earnable catalysts should allow players to produce enough items in one type of catalysts, ie. obtain enough special seeds or premium feed for daily farming solely through the lab when a player chooses only the corresponding type of catalyst in the rewards. 
         Since the cost of upgrading the lab was reduced, the extra money spent should be refunded (refund amount = old cost - new cost for level below 30, or sum of old cost for level 31 and above). There could be more levels for the jam factory so that all 12 greenhouse fruits can be made into jam. (Or maybe the greenhouse fruits that can be made into jam are those available in the winter temp farm?). 

    5. Conclusion. I think the features and mechanics in this update is good (ie. better than the previous lab and the idea of using greenhouse fruits to produce jam is a good option), but the balancing is really bad, and has not consider the actual damage to the players. I hope the above comments and suggestions could make the changes to the lab to be consider better than the old lab. I look forward to the improvement of features mentioned here the game, and I appriciate the continuous monthly updates, even if there are not much change in some due to limitation of time and/or some features are not useful for me. 
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