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I am not a serious horse player, I just dabble and like to improve my horse and get a few prizes in the competitions. But I would really enjoy the making and applying of equipment if I understood it, so am disappointed I don't. I look at the jumps I am going to have in the race, I put on the equipment it says it needs for that type of jump, but sometimes it will only use it for one jump of that type, sometimes three - I don't understand, I think it might be something to do with some things only helping if your rushes or does one of those new 'behaviours', but as that is random and out of our control why bother equipping at all? I understand that you can breed your horse to be more prone to rush or balk or whatever, so then would increase chances of that behaviour in a race and therefore increase chance of equipment working. But jeez, this could have been so cool, and it isn't, it is rubbish. To get my horse winning again I would have to invest hours of time breeding for behaviours, for a small chance of a 1 second lead over a jump. Just going to keep faffing, can't be bothered.
We have started to figure out that it does have to do with the enhancement's & improvements of the horses them self.
That all starts right from the beginning of ur horses - the first pair u breed through ur stable to get a foal with hopefully an enhancement on it so u can send it through the horse meadow to improve that horses abilities.
Having said that, I do like the idea of making things from the trees, plants on the horse farm, so with the things that can be made in the workshops (could add other items not just horse equipment), maybe they could be saleable & market stall contract, boat items etc?
There are several parts of BigFarm that I do not care for and participate in as little as possible -- but I have never abandoned a whole farm before. But the horse farm is so bad now I've left it entirely. I'm with the guy who said we need to have an option to eliminate the horses from our farm entirely. No, reporting, no buttons, no indication whatsoever that the horses exist.
But my conclusion is that currently the horse farm is a gold pit. A massive gold pit. Too much equipment is needed per race, they need to stop the requirement to have an item crafted for each jump -it should be craft one saddle, equip for whole race. Costs could be adjusted, make the one saddle need more materials than currently, but why one for each jump? In a race a horse doesn't stop to change saddles at every jump. So you can't equip your horse for a race without lots of materials growing and being crafted, and that is very very expensive and slow as a process. And the basic items, without improving it at the saddlers (which needs even more materials than the original crafting) only make a small difference much of the time anyway, they give a one second lead, or take one second offf hesitation when balking, one second for such a lot of effort is depressing and not fun. And lets not forget that the improving would need to be done on each saddle, imagine the materials to equip a horse meaningfully in a way that will make it win races. Sometimes there is 14 of one type of obstacle in a race, which means providing 14 saddles or boots or whatever. For a one second lead boost on the jumps, but only if your horse takes the jump with the right behaviour, which you can't influence.
Some of the items do give a better boost, the saddle cloths and leg wraps, but making 14 of them would take days of growing and crafting, for one race.
To equip my horse for the last couple of days I have spent a lot of gold growing trees and upgrading workshops, and I still can only equip my horse for about 4 races a day. And that was with considerable gold pushing to get the materials. The trees take too long to grow. They cost too much to upgrade. They are unbalanced and trees needed a lot are less plentiful - haven't done all the stumps, but done enough to realise that they have made t tree certain tress rarer, so again they are more likely to need pushing. And even with all that my horse didn't have a great win rate, I won't get out of silver this tournament. I have been away for a long time so my horse would be two years better if I had continued playing, so I get that there are horses out there I will never be able to seriously compete with, which is fine. But it would be nice to have a better win rate, it isn't motivating to make saddles and stuff just to lose anyway.
Gold pit.
It was a key moment, from personal experience
Before that, its pretty sketchy , as it goes, you learn some pieces, that will take least of materials that takes longer to produce
And you go as it develops , Like you can produce Yellow dyes 50% faster than Pink dyes , So in theory, you can always use more boots, of the type, that requires Yellow dyes
We're working on a summary , to try to help a little bit more players toward all that
The workshop buildings also seem likely to need use of gold, because they don't make much at a time, even upgraded,
I get that I will get more used to it, upgrade it, understand it more, learn the best ways to do things, how to manage growth and crafting and equipping more efficiently, I don't mind that, that is the point of playing a game at the end of a day, so I don't want it to be easy and obvious and not a challenge. A guide is not going to make things grow quicker, craft more efficiently, or the huge numbers of items needed to equip a horse for just one race, for a average improvement in horse performance as long as your horse jumps with the right random behaviour.
Not wanting to be negative, love the idea, have really enjoyed it and could easily become quite obsessed, but the mood will leave me if I grow one tree because I needed to save shields, and it would take weeks just to equip a horse for each jump in a race.. So I used gold, and got the idea of how it could be. Just needs jiggling. Unless it is meant to be a gold pit of course. I don't have a problem with things being designed for gold spending, there has to be revenue the game to exist, and I have always been a gold user. But I don't like being ripped off, and currently this is over the top unachievable or not worth bother with, without a lot of gold.
And also, when I say 14 items for a race, that is only for one item, which won't be enough to win. So you need to use all slots, I have 3, So earlier I chose to focus on a red fence because there were 14 of them in the race, and I needed 42 items. I did win that race, and I could see by the time margins the equipment did help. but only because my horse had relevant behaviours for each jump. Which was just luck. Could have just as easily used a whole days production (and more, for which I used gold) to equip a horse for one race and lose.
Then there's production cost to go with this mix of new horse stuff no one seems to have noticed. We can some what control almost all the area's production costs. The DSF & Horse Ranch ?? Now the DSF it doesn't matter if you know the chum making secret,
& I know ur going to point out that the horse ranch has it's own currency & shouldn't matter. Why not? We have to pay - to build - to start - to improve but no way to counter the costs. Have trophies count as happiness there.
Also a better explanation on & if the trees change, like the last reset on the trees & if so when & how long in between? Now maybe if we could know what the trees are before building them or at least a way to demolish them with out to much of a loss for building them in the first place to find the 1's we need or want.
Well level of the horse, is a kinda big factor nowadays
And it can go up to level 201
Horse training and leveling up, is a kind of permanent / long-term thing
While your horse level 167 is currently good , other players can always improve theirs
Everyone usually progress
I'm certain a few players ( even if they are probably a minority, are actively improving, and we could see newcomers appearing in diamond divisions in the coming tournaments )
Also, if you look at Hall of fame for all horse tournaments, there always been steady, and new horses/players in there
IT IS A BUST< NOOOOOO IT IS A HEIST discover the new horsefarm on Big Farm,proudly presented to you by GGS/Stillfront. You know those who are always right and never wrong. Like the DSF changes a few years ago.
And i kept laydow a bit after our private discussion dear Moderator,but it is obvius that more players thinking it is not a well developed,excecuted plan without given any instructions. You do not go to highschool when you are not able to read,the same with the horses throwen into deep water with somebody explain you how to swim
Edit: Names of other players mentioned has been censored, ~ BM BUGS BUNNY.
When the new ranch started I enthusiastically built lots of trees, and upgraded the factories. Am so sorry I did. Every time I go to the horse farm and see the gazillion trees to harvest I get so discouraged. Ughh... then I need to build the equipment... then equip horses... then compete... only to lose 95% of the races. So much fun! Years of breeding and training wasted. Glad I didn't use gold on them at least.
Please can you just reset it back to the original ranch?
Its absolutely nothing personal here , its a little bit of a strict rule, to dont name any players
We will censor in every case we observe
Just because the horse ranch is maybe not the prime focus of many players does not mean that it's impossible.
I have recently created a horse that can and has been good enough to get into diamond league and yes, i did spend gold, but that was only to speed up the process a little bit.
There's no free lunch, if you could get rewards and gml's by selling corn, they wouldn't be so valuable, would they?
If everyone could easily get into diamond league, it wouldn't have the same... novelty, and people would get bored pretty quickly.
Although the horse ranch is complicated at best, i see no practical reason to destroy it completely.
If you would like to give a few constructive suggestions on how it could be better, go right ahead
It is to complicated even for high level players. Got contact with lots of +400 level players on the NL and INT server and they go only to the goldmine. They leave the horses for what they are,useless things in a altered game. It is not possible you loose all your races when you challenge a horse with 50 levels lowers from a friend with has no extra breeding quality,s,or has the extra goodies from the facility,s from the new horsefarm,because he has not build a facility yet. Can you explain me that??????? Or can GGS can explain me that??? That is the only thing some players like to know. But we get awnser that avoid the thruth. The horsefarm is a bust,a heist a altered game by the developers. That horseracing now is as fake as a $.95 note. Sorry but i cannot find other words for it. And still there are players using gold for that pyramid game.