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  • mutterkjær (SKN1)mutterkjær (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 310
    very good question , AND we need an answer MOD´s , please ask someone who knows , because this whole thing is absolute not clear ???
  • mutterkjær (SKN1)mutterkjær (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 310
    I'm not doing too badly, not as well as I used to, but not too bad. The problem is that they have effectively changed the definition of "a good horse". If you read the Guide you can see that they are using the attributes and effects quite differently from before. We really need to have only one of Racing, Dressage and JumpPower and yet we can't get rid of the ones we no longer want
    So what are you doing right? Please be more specific in what you do differently 
  • Having breeding effects of the same discipline is now quite important

    Your breeding effects will now improve your % to Rush/ % to Balk  , positively for the said discipline and negative for the other 2 disciplines

    So you will want to have all your breeding effects affecting positively the same discipline, for better results
  • didah (SKN1)didah (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 1,246
    What I don't get is why does GGS Horsestrategy needs to be a secret.?

    How about you roll it  out, so at least we have a chance to figure out, whether the horses we have are of any use, or not ?
    You (probably) made some calculations, how about you sharing some of those?

    What's the odds here:
    Level 121 horse with level 5 exceptionel/rare breeding  vs  regular lev 50?
    Level 50 regular against  level 121 w/lev5 exceptionel/rare breeding.

    Can it be true, that the big lev horse loses defending race by 80secs, or is the time showing on the report, only for 'show', and not a 'real' calculation?

    -In case it's a 'calculation', how many races of 100 will either side win? (Challenging/defending)
    -In case it's for 'show' - okay, that's what I thought and that part makes sense then...- but why not tell us, so many are frustrated about that part in specific.?

    I love puzzles - just dont like unfair puzzles or when bricks are missing and especially don't like when the rules are changed underway.

    It doesn't seem right to make such a big change without some kind of documentation for what you have done, and what it means for the players and from what I read here, some of the horses has been worked on for many years!

    Time out, please!

  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 8,433
    1/ There's a lot more than level to how good a horse is (and there is some random chance in there too)
    2/ Those two are related. If you are winning when challenged, then the person doing the challenging is losing. Just like you do when you challenge. It's the same for all of us. (and you are winning something by getting to keep the points that you would have lost if they had won)
    3/ Offensive equipment and defensive equipment are not the same are they? When other people challenge you they will see your horse with 3 items for every jump (and I suspect that it is this which is causing the shift discussed at 2/ above)

  • Kimmiecat (NL1)Kimmiecat (NL1) NL1 Posts: 924
    Can anyone tell me why my horse with equipement for the outlined obstacles, is faster at these obstacles (4.88s vs 6.01s and 10s vs 13s) and still my opponent wins?

    [email protected]   /   Member of the Dutch coop "Zeeuwsche Unie" 

  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 8,433
    because he was faster on the others ?
    You picked up 3 seconds on those 2 obstacles but he must have been more than that ahead of you after the 1st 3 that you don't show.

  • Kimmiecat (NL1)Kimmiecat (NL1) NL1 Posts: 924
    because he was faster on the others ?
    You picked up 3 seconds on those 2 obstacles but he must have been more than that ahead of you after the 1st 3 that you don't show.
    Maybe you are right...I will check the next time

    [email protected]   /   Member of the Dutch coop "Zeeuwsche Unie" 

  • jorisvanvlijmen (NL1)jorisvanvlijmen (NL1) NL1 Posts: 100
    edited 09.06.2020
    i dont like the adjustmenst to the old horse farm, the only thing what counts is buying more and more en more gold for ggs. that is the only thing that they want.

    i stopped the racing, i just click and click and click, winning is just a way off spending your gold.
    Sure they need money to make the game, but everything the "adjust" is costing big time gold and the other side off the adjustments they make is because we players did find an way too get some benefit of it, so they need too end that. boy what a shame
  • avoepel14 (AU1)avoepel14 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 38
    I have problems to understand the whole new horse ranch, what's idea of it?
     We collect horsecrests, with horsecrests we build trees and factories and produse equipments for workshop, then we put those things for the horse and we race. We win more horsecrests and then we build more trees and upgrade those factories. And again we put things for the horse and race and win horsecrests and then we build again and race again and win more horsecrests... 
    Ok, we get also other prices, but before this change those prises were there allready...
    This new farm seems to be like closed economy system, we get currency, wich is totally worthless for all other farms, you can not change it to other currency, you can only build trees and factories in horse ranch.

    Edited*: Please, Be careful with political references
    As far as I can figure, you are 99% correct - this is the way it is supposed to be. Reality is many of us seem to be winning fewer races, building times are too long and nobody can figure out how the whole thing is working. 
    Chronically imbalanced, little reward and very little fun. 
    I sorta understand what you are coming from. 
    How do you get to the horse farm?
    Alexis Voepel
  • daisymae7 (US1)daisymae7 (US1) US1 Posts: 20
    I have lost all interest in the horse farm now.  I hate the messy look of all the trees.  Why can't I arrange that farm like I can all my other farms.  I am definitely not going to use time in the mine to make horse things when I could be making gold or money.  GGS doesn't want us making gold when we could be buying gold.  The incentive to race is gone.  
    daisymae7 @ us 1
  • Exaliber (NL1)Exaliber (NL1) NL1 Posts: 52
    here the same issue 
    horse 131  against horse 94
    and still loose whit 32 sec different
  • I was hoping to see defense equipment backed down to 1 per obstacle, 3 per is stupid at the benefits. I want to suggest making challenger equipment better, but that would defeat my plan not to use equipment.
    william robert @ WWW 1
  • antigone6 (US1)antigone6 (US1) US1 Posts: 253
    edited 19.06.2020
    Thank you Willy for simplified tutorial. My horses used to be set all for each it's own discipline but then I followed CBF's My Champion when breeding and training them up. So, to clarify that I understand, My racing horse doesn't need endurance or strength? Jumping horse doesn't need agility anymore? Even though in the first tutorial the attributes such as strength and endurance decrease balking behaviors and increase rushing behaviors,which are good I believe. So would our horses still need those in addition to/instead of   all jumping attributes, or all speed attributes. IS ANYONE ELSE NOT ABLE TO USE SAY JUMPING EQU. FOR A JUMPING COMPETITION BECAUSE YOUR HORSE DOESN'T HAVE ENDURANCE OF +1 ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE NEW SHORTENED TUTORIAL??? SORRY FOR ALL CAPS, JUST Hoping for some type of Mod response
    I appreciate your time

    Post edited by antigone6 (US1) on

    ~Thank You FarmerJohn 22~
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,865
    For those still trying to get a good/great horse have a look here


     Need help check CrazyBigFarm
  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,298
    The way I understand it is that the previous way of getting one's horse to have lots of "Endurance/Agility/Strength" attributes in the breeding details tab is now moot and one needs now to focus on breeding those out of your high level horses and gearing your horses to be specialized in Jump power or Speed or Dressage.  If this can't be done, then probably will have to free that horse and start over with the new way of things.  I am sorry, but that seems to be the way of it. ~sigh~  But if you can afford it you can buy a horse from the horse market that has the desired attributes of jump power/speed/dressage and go from there.  B)

    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 8,433
    edited 11.06.2020
    Yes, I think you've hit the nail on the head, "Endurance/Agility/Strength" attributes and effects are all beneficial but what we really don't want is Jump power and Speed and Dressage. As I understand it, in any discipline, one of these counts for us but the other two count against us. Breeding to minimize this effect will take me some time  :(

  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,298
    The "Strength", "Agility", and "Endurance" increase Balking behavior and decreases the chances of winning, whereas "Jump power" , "Dressage", and "Speed" increase Rushing behavior increase the chances of winning.  Balking behavior is bad whereas Rushing behavior is good.

    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 8,433
    Not according to the original Horse Ranch Guide that RowdyRac posted. It says

    5.  Breeding Effects

    a.   Strength

    Decreasing the chance of balking behavior and increasing the change of rushing behavior at the obstacles “Blue Ox-Fence”, “Sand Heap”, “Flower Bed Volte”

    and similarly for Endurance and Agility.

    So far in my retraining this has proved to be correct  :¬)

  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,298
    I realize that, but that was the "old" now outdated original horse guide.  We have to change our thinking for this new way!  :D

    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 8,433
    edited 11.06.2020
    If you say so but I am still finding it to apply. :¬)
    Have you tried writing down your horse's numbers, running it round the meadow and taking the major effect, and then comparing the new numbers ?

  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,298
    Yes, and I find that when I say complete the sequence of stuff to build up the love meter in Agility, I get a horse that have over 100 genes that I can distribute to the new colt and lever up the one for Agility and then the overages to the jumping power, I find an increase in the jumping power number whereas the increase in the Agility applied to the overall horse's stats and not to the Agility attribute in the breeding effects tab.

    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • Rusty Farmer (AU1)Rusty Farmer (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,666
    So what could happen - horses get so strong at defence that no one is winning the races to move up the ranks and no one gets to the diamond league.
  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,298
    Well that is one way to look at it!  :D

    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • edited 12.06.2020
    Defense wins championships! :D

    Sorry I'm a sports fan , and its a pretty popular expression :)
  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,298
    Agreed, we need to go with the flow! 

    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • antigone6 (US1)antigone6 (US1) US1 Posts: 253
    But by changing a horse to all of one attribute, then some of the equipment for the competition for that attribute is not usable! why ???

    ~Thank You FarmerJohn 22~
  • hello forum...

    the new horse thing isn't funny... much to complex...

    i understand that you as bf want to ad something new to te game... this doesn't... takes the fun out of the game...

    i think that only a small group will like it... and that's not what you would like for you're players...

    for instance... the saddlery has way to little storrage...

    greetz... vogel

  • Okay folks, At this time

    We would like to dig/retrieve a bit more info about Diamond league for horse tournament

    Please, Say on which server you play, and how many are currently in Diamond 

    Thank you for your help :)))
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