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Horse competition and equipment is a joke!!!

I have not won 1 race in 3 competitions since they added the horse equipment. I usually win 1 or 2 races. The slots available for equipment is bare minimum. You must pay 20,000 gold to open more slots. This is a gold grabber which means $$$ for GGS. I guess this is the end of this farm..:((


  • Uncle John (AU1)Uncle John (AU1) AU1 Posts: 8,775
    Upgrading the Saddlers workshop gives 3 more slots, then 40 per slot (instead of 30) and then another 3 slots.

  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,917
    Upgrading the Saddlers workshop gives 3 more slots, then 40 per slot (instead of 30) and then another 3 slots.
    Right & one needs enough equipment for all the obstacles per challenge per horse. Thinking the equipment is tournament level related - as in one's horse's tournament level - I have tons of equipment I can not use yet & have found I can only equip the lower quality equipment to any of my horse.

  • buddy194 (US1)buddy194 (US1) US1 Posts: 382
    Thanks for the data, Lnwolf.  This is in accord with what I've been experiencing (though I haven't been keeping records.)  My horse is Level 116.
    I didn't know that I was losing fewer ribbons when challenged.  That's good news.
    I HATE losing about 95% of the races I run!!!  But my percentages seem to be about the same as yours --  Never win against a same or higher level horse.  It seems that a horse needs to be about 10 to 12 Levels lower than my horse for me to stand any chance of winning.  But now there's MANY fewer times I'm facing horses of lower level.

    I sure hope BF changes this back towards what it was before because I don't like playing a game I'm guaranteed to lose.  I don't mind losing the GML for a prize as much as I hate being beat to death to get anywhere in the game.
    I have been doing this tournament and found with the new system interesting. 
    My horse is 135.
    The first week I used the tack on my horses and won maybe 5%
    After week one I stopped using any tack and got the following results.
    Anything above my level won 0/34.- 0%
    Level 100 to 135 won 22/182-8%
    Less than 100 won 68/114.- 77%
    Won one contest in the last 2 days. not one horse was above level 125 Going backwards. 
    The difference now is, when challenged, I win more than half which is better.
    Used to win 1 in 10 before.  
    Not burning time making gear and using mathematical algorithms to figure best gear for each race.  I used the horse tourney as relaxation.  But the new system is saving my money since I stopped buying gold for event farm.  Spent my last 35k on the farm that just ended.
    Glad some like the more time intensive tournament and the trees everywhere.

    signature by farmerjohn 22 (US1)

  • Fallen (INT1)Fallen (INT1) INT1 Posts: 400
    Another one.... this time for racing. I was challenged and although my horse is not setup for racing it won. I think we are all confused as to how the farm works and BFG really should not be so stingy with information.

  • Well, For some players, Part of the fun is to discover and learn things !

    but yes you are correct, People lose much less now when they are challenged

    There seems to have lots of subtleties with the whole new permanent farm! :)

    A tendency observed, making equipment becomes a bit easier, when all stumps are developed into tree's

    it seems to have been launched a bit more toward end game ( kinda oriented ) , ( personal belief )
  • antigone6 (US1)antigone6 (US1) US1 Posts: 391
    edited 19.05.2020
    It is a struggle trying to figure out what works and what doesn't on horse farm. I see winnings on very few. Right, when I start to get a working theory of the horse level, attributes etc. , then I lose more than I won, so no good working theories yet. I am losing a lot more races now. MORE INFORMATION GGS, would be greatly appreciated.


  • Jasist2 (INT1)Jasist2 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 140
    It seems that it gets harder to win when we challenge others, but it gets easier to win when being challenged. However, this makes player gain challenge points slower, thus getting less rewards. My hypothesis is that this is another move of GGS to hinder our earning of gold. 

    When we challenge others and win (challenger), we always get 4 challenge points and hundreds of golden horseshoes, no matter what league we are in. When we lose, we get no challenge points and a few golden horseshoes, but we also have nothing to lose. At the same time, a person is getting challenged (defender). If they win, they only gain a few golden horseshoes and no challenge points. If they lose, I think they still gain one golden horseshoe, but they lose a maximum of 4 challenge points. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, I have no access to the challenge due to my level. 

    We can see that, when the challenger wins in gold league or below, there is a net increase of total challenge points (ie. the total challenge points of the two players involved). However, when the challenger wins in platinum or diamond league, the challenge points are in equilibrium. When the defender wins, the challenge points are always in equilibrium. Therefore, the more the challenger wins, the more the total challenge points will be increased. 

    The gold rewards only exist in gold league or above, which requires a few hundred challenge points (I forgot the exact amount). When the challenger wins less, less challenge points will be gained by players, and therefore less players can get into the higher leagues. This results in less rewards are given out, including those containing gold. Since horse tournament runs constantly, it can be treated as a constant income of gold, or the gold earning increases linearly with respect to time. 

    Therefore, unless there are more rewards (ie. the horse crest can be used to exchange tokens or other items), and considering how GGS takes away the earning of gold in varies places of the game, it is highly likely that this change is introduced to decrease our earning of gold. 

    PS: Sorry for seemingly writing an essay
  • funki (US1)funki (US1) US1 Posts: 75
    and why are the horse trees and buildings the only autostart thing in the game

    as someone who dont want trees it ruins the times on horseranch
  • Fallen (INT1)Fallen (INT1) INT1 Posts: 400
    @Jasist2 (INT1) Below are the various levels for your information:

  • Jasist2 (INT1)Jasist2 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 140
    @Jasist2 (INT1) Below are the various levels for your information:

    That's the same as what I remember, so GGS have not changed the earning of challenge points. They have added horse crests as rewards, possibly along with the other rewards that existed before the change. 
  • GrammaLeah (US1)GrammaLeah (US1) US1 Posts: 569
    Ah... so in order to win consistently we have to breed in the horse meadow.
    Thanks much, I won't worry about the racing then. (I tried a few times and have little luck breeding horses.)
    Thanks again, WillyBigFoot !

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