I'm not sure what the purpose of the new equipment feature of horse competition was, unless it was to make it much harder to win if you have a high level horse.
You simply can't harvest enough equipment for more than 2 or three races per day and if you take on a horse higher than thirty levels below you, without equipment, then you are virtually guaranteed to lose. Even putting on full set of equipment, against horses ten levels lower, my win ratio has dropped dramatically. This update sucks.
Have you noticed that all your opponents have more equipement than even possible without buying extra slots with gold?They always have 3 equipement for every obstacle throughout the whole race , which means they need 9 slots for stocking equipement. So this setup is just a big scam.
I'm not sure what the purpose of the new equipment feature of horse competition was, unless it was to make it much harder to win if you have a high level horse.
You simply can't harvest enough equipment for more than 2 or three races per day and if you take on a horse higher than thirty levels below you, without equipment, then you are virtually guaranteed to lose. Even putting on full set of equipment, against horses ten levels lower, my win ratio has dropped dramatically. This update sucks.
Have you noticed that all your opponents have more equipement than even possible without buying extra slots with gold?They always have 3 equipement for every obstacle throughout the whole race , which means they need 9 slots for stocking equipement. So this setup is just a big scam.
It is like when I would play a new game made up by my nephew. The rules keep changing.
I have problems to understand the whole new horse ranch, what's idea of it? We collect horsecrests, with horsecrests we build trees and factories and produse equipments for workshop, then we put those things for the horse and we race. We win more horsecrests and then we build more trees and upgrade those factories. And again we put things for the horse and race and win horsecrests and then we build again and race again and win more horsecrests... Ok, we get also other prices, but before this change those prises were there allready... This new farm seems to be like closed economy system, we get currency, wich is totally worthless for all other farms, you can not change it to other currency, you can only build trees and factories in horse ranch.
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As far as I can figure, you are 99% correct - this is the way it is supposed to be. Reality is many of us seem to be winning fewer races, building times are too long and nobody can figure out how the whole thing is working. Chronically imbalanced, little reward and very little fun. I
Oh it used to be so simple: collect horseshoes, train and breed horses and compete in tournaments. The horse ranch was never quick but it was a nice sedate farm to visit a few times and see a reward from doing so. Over years, yes... YEARS, I trained a decent horse and always managed to get into the platinum league for a couple of useful prizes and a bunch of useless sticker things.
Seems to me that the horse ranch upgrade has been years in the making - puzzling building plots and tree stumps have been the decoration for ages. Sadly, all that time has been used to make something so hideously complicated that no-one (other than the creators, presumably) understand.
The upshot is..... just compete = lose. Equip horse and compete = lose some more. At the end of the tournament I'll be towards the bottom of gold league and get 300 gold and 1 purple box, all for a 1 month effort. If I start with a full 100 petrol cans I can complete 8 competitions, over the last 2 weeks the most I ever win is 1 or 2 of these 8, far less than before and it seems to make no difference if I equip the horse or what level of horse I'm competing against.
The upshot is we now have loads of new stuff added to the horse ranch but the fun and reward of it has been taken away. If I don't bother with the ranch any more, which means years of training wasted, what's the point of doing the temporary farms, greenhouse and completing shipping orders ? Not much really ! The balance and dynamics of the whole game have been completely ruined.
Have you noticed that all your opponents have more equipement than even possible without buying extra slots with gold?They always have 3 equipement for every obstacle throughout the whole race , which means they need 9 slots for stocking equipement. So this setup is just a big scam.
You are mistaking the equipment that we get for free when defending with the equipment that we have to make to use when challenging. Defending equipment works on all 3 obstacles or 2 obstacles and the start.
I agree with sirbobby's entire last paragraph. I can find other games similar to this, but not ones I can play while talking to people. That's the last thing keeping me here (my main farm dog is 46 months so it must be at least that long). Most of our co-op is searching for another game.
Even with all the horse ranch buildings upgraded to max, there is not enough storage to contain all the tree products for future construction of the saddle/boots/leg wraps. The good thing is that I can sell them and get the horse crests to continue upgrading the trees.
Oh yes, I forgot to ask, will the horse crests have any use once we have upgraded all the trees to level four and all the buildings to level four? I am finding that I can get a goodly amount of horse crests without even racing and I expect to accumulate a ton of them during the "off-season" of the horse competition.
This is complete horse shit a 75 losing to a 33 yeah what is the use and coming back to 18 points down from losses then that, as I said the greatest black hole created by a game I have ever played
This is complete horse shit a 75 losing to a 33 yeah what is the use and coming back to 18 points down from losses then that, as I said the greatest black hole created by a game I have ever played
dang that sucks!!! did you lose the horse or points
I have problems to understand the whole new horse ranch, what's idea of it? We collect horsecrests, with horsecrests we build trees and factories and produse equipments for workshop, then we put those things for the horse and we race. We win more horsecrests and then we build more trees and upgrade those factories. And again we put things for the horse and race and win horsecrests and then we build again and race again and win more horsecrests... Ok, we get also other prices, but before this change those prises were there allready... This new farm seems to be like closed economy system, we get currency, wich is totally worthless for all other farms, you can not change it to other currency, you can only build trees and factories in horse ranch.
Edited*: Please, Be careful with political references
As far as I can figure, you are 99% correct - this is the way it is supposed to be. Reality is many of us seem to be winning fewer races, building times are too long and nobody can figure out how the whole thing is working. Chronically imbalanced, little reward and very little fun. I
I think I may have figured out how to put a saddle ,helmet and boots into the racing equation but now it seems I have to do that for every race. Is this the way this is supposed to work? What a PITA. I'm really not having any fun with this update and now Im reading that you build a smelter but you have to mine for the stuff to smelt? Plus the rest of my upgrades on the rest of my farms will just be on hold for a few months while I try to get all this going. its redonculous.
I think I may have figured out how to put a saddle ,helmet and boots into the racing equation but now it seems I have to do that for every race. Is this the way this is supposed to work? What a PITA. I'm really not having any fun with this update and now Im reading that you build a smelter but you have to mine for the stuff to smelt? Plus the rest of my upgrades on the rest of my farms will just be on hold for a few months while I try to get all this going. its redonculous.
Agree!!
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i wonder if the Horse Crests will ever become useful after all the buildings are leveled up and all the tree stumps are leveled up? Are there future plans for them?
It is because, although it says storage is full, it is actually showing your stock as 0. See 0/-1. Close the game, clear the cache, reload
That makes NO sense at all.
I do clear my cache all the time. And this happened on TWO farms. The other I stopped even caring about harvesting anything. I think I'll do the same for all of them. Train horses, race, the rest is BS.
Uncle John, I think you gave good advice. I received the same advice from another admin to do the same thing nd it helps. What i am curious about is how do we take what we make in the saddlery and use it with the horses? I have made a few things but they remain in the barn. thanks- laura
I think I may have figured out how to put a saddle ,helmet and boots into the racing equation but now it seems I have to do that for every race. Is this the way this is supposed to work? What a PITA. I'm really not having any fun with this update and now Im reading that you build a smelter but you have to mine for the stuff to smelt? Plus the rest of my upgrades on the rest of my farms will just be on hold for a few months while I try to get all this going. its redonculous.
I think I may have figured out how to put a saddle ,helmet and boots into the racing equation but now it seems I have to do that for every race. Is this the way this is supposed to work? What a PITA. I'm really not having any fun with this update and now Im reading that you build a smelter but you have to mine for the stuff to smelt? Plus the rest of my upgrades on the rest of my farms will just be on hold for a few months while I try to get all this going. its redonculous.
Agree!!
and you need multiples equipped per race for both when you challenge others & for when they challenge you?? Right good luck having room & or equipment for every challenge during a tournaments.
Uncle John, I think you gave good advice. I received the same advice from another admin to do the same thing nd it helps. What i am curious about is how do we take what we make in the saddlery and use it with the horses? I have made a few things but they remain in the barn. thanks- laura
Select the discipline you wish to compete at select the player you wish to compete against click View There are now 3 big + signs on the left. By clicking them you can put a different piece of equipment on each. (If you click the radar button that matches the discipline that you have chosen, it makes choosing easier cos unusable stuff doesn't show) Be aware that it uses one piece of equipment for each fence so one can easily use 14 saddles in one race !!
(and I'm not an admin Laurel, just another player like you )
you need to take this horse tournament and take away the update and put it back the way it was and fire who ever came up with all these stupid ideas because they do not work
Thank you Uncle John, that helps. Not sure why it puts more than one piece of equipment when I click on the button but i will work on it! thanks again! Laura
36 races and two wins???? and that against lower horses???? ridicules !!!!!
level is not everything, effects are every bit as important if not more so and now there is defensive equipment too. Consider the situation of 2 players with identical horses neither of whom equip their horses when challenging but both, by default, use defensive equipment. When he challenges you, you will win but, when you challenge him, he will win !!
When you are making saddles, boots, blankets, etc., make sure you click the description tab. Some of the items have restrictions on what a horse needs in order to use these items. For example, some require an empty breeding slot or +1 racing attribute, etc. I have lots of equipment that I cannot use because my horse doesn't match these requirements. I can't sell them once they are made, I can only delete them, so what a waste of time and resources. My horse seems to be winning about 1 out of 8 races (if I am lucky) regardless of whether I race a horse that is higher or lower level than me or whether I use equipment or not. More and more I have been just clicking through the races and not even trying anymore, because no matter what I do, it doesn't seem to change my losing streak. I briefly made it to platinum level, but then slipped back down to gold and can't seem to do any better. I'm not going to waste more of my time an energy worrying with it.
I will probably continue to do temp farms whenever a WWC is on, because at least I can get some decent prizes in the WWC.
All right. Let me give you my opinion and answers. First of all, the first update with the new horse farm was simply amazing. The best update ever made by GGS in years. Nothing to comment against. All excellent and well done. A new exiting and much fair competitional system. But the happy last little, because now GGS, came with a second update that brought a lot of mess.
First mess: Apparently, our work of years - the horse quality has gone....this is baddddd, but fortunately, looks like it;s only a bug and hopely, they will fix ASAP. I'm saying this because a collegue of mine, made a "love" in the horse stable with a known quality 5 horse (now with no sign) and generated a +7 breeding effect resistance (Q5 can generate +7 or +8 agility, power or resistance) which leads me to the conclusion that tha quality is there..only a display bug exists
Second mess: The new competitor level and competitor experience points. Man, the idea it's ok, but the manner in which was implemented is bad. Why? Because when somebody challenge you, you gain points...you need 90 points to get to the next level and have in defence better equipment. BUTTTTT the problem is that when you send you horse in the meadow, when you make a succesful love there, and your horse get out of the meadow, ALL YOUR PROGRESS IS RESET. So, if before sendind the horse to the meadow you have for example 17/90 progress, when the horse comes out of the meadow your progress is again 0/90 This means that any improvement of your horse is blocked...because if you do your improvement, your progress is gonne! This is not fair....you should correct this thing and keep our progress.
Third mess: To answer to Gavinfarms and all of you. The metals for the Smelter comes from the MINE. FROM our Gold Mine! This is so stupid man! How do you imagine, that we will not use our gold mine licenses any more and extract these metals? For what? to produce better equipment for horses like more efficient helmets that gives +3 fuel instead of +1 fuel that normal ones give? Is simply STUPID. It;s much easy to put the gold license in the mine, extract the gold and buy with the gold, the fuel, instead of not extract the gold, make all this twist process for very small bennefit and lose the gold for not using full time the licenses.
Fourth mess: We are no longer allowed to select in defence, what equipment to use...it's only selected by default and that's it.
I stongly hope that you will correct all these elements and bring back the satisfaction that first time we had when you implemented the first update. Thanks...and if you have more questions, I will try to answer to you!
Despite having reloaded the game I am getting gibberish titles on the Tournament Preparation screen making it quite incomprehensible :¬(
@Uncle John (GB1) The texts are definitely in there, I kept reloading too & not getting them, but when I tried a private window, they came up, so you really do have to clear the cache to get the XML to update.
If you look in the version number shown under the login box, you need it to say XML2820 (not 2812)
Huh ? ? ? not really sure what your saying, but I think I agree . All I know is I used to win a race, jump, or dressage once and a while, " if " I used my higher level horse against a lower level horse. now I loose all the time and always against lower level horses, WHF, what's the advantage of having a high level horse ? ? ? .
Are you kidding Me!!!!!! , I was almost to the top of the Silver page, then I went to do My racing for this morning only to end up back at the Bottom of the list? , what kind of rip off is this ???? , I am so not happy with this so called New Racing update, you can put it back the way it was thank you.
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Have you noticed that all your opponents have more equipement than even possible without buying extra slots with gold?They always have 3 equipement for every obstacle throughout the whole race , which means they need 9 slots for stocking equipement.
So this setup is just a big scam.
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Maybe you should upgrade the saddlery. I see you're still at level 1. Then you will also receive more free slots.
Chronically imbalanced, little reward and very little fun.
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Seems to me that the horse ranch upgrade has been years in the making - puzzling building plots and tree stumps have been the decoration for ages. Sadly, all that time has been used to make something so hideously complicated that no-one (other than the creators, presumably) understand.
The upshot is..... just compete = lose. Equip horse and compete = lose some more. At the end of the tournament I'll be towards the bottom of gold league and get 300 gold and 1 purple box, all for a 1 month effort. If I start with a full 100 petrol cans I can complete 8 competitions, over the last 2 weeks the most I ever win is 1 or 2 of these 8, far less than before and it seems to make no difference if I equip the horse or what level of horse I'm competing against.
The upshot is we now have loads of new stuff added to the horse ranch but the fun and reward of it has been taken away. If I don't bother with the ranch any more, which means years of training wasted, what's the point of doing the temporary farms, greenhouse and completing shipping orders ? Not much really ! The balance and dynamics of the whole game have been completely ruined.
I can find other games similar to this, but not ones I can play while talking to people.
That's the last thing keeping me here (my main farm dog is 46 months so it must be at least that long).
Most of our co-op is searching for another game.
Oh yes, I forgot to ask, will the horse crests have any use once we have upgraded all the trees to level four and all the buildings to level four? I am finding that I can get a goodly amount of horse crests without even racing and I expect to accumulate a ton of them during the "off-season" of the horse competition.
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I think you gave good advice. I received the same advice from another admin to do the same thing nd it helps.
What i am curious about is how do we take what we make in the saddlery and use it with the horses? I have made a few things but they remain in the barn. thanks- laura
for when they challenge you?? Right good luck having room & or equipment for every challenge during a tournaments.
select the player you wish to compete against
click View
There are now 3 big + signs on the left. By clicking them you can put a different piece of equipment on each.
(If you click the radar button that matches the discipline that you have chosen, it makes choosing easier cos unusable stuff doesn't show)
Be aware that it uses one piece of equipment for each fence so one can easily use 14 saddles in one race !!
(and I'm not an admin Laurel, just another player like you )
and that against lower horses????
ridicules !!!!!