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Feedback: Missions

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  • While I agree with all of the comments summarized about missions, especially feeling forced to use gold just to get to position 3 or 4 in a mission, I want to add that the worst part is the way the server acts during the mission times. Yes, I cleared my cache - repeatedly. I would click on fields or other harvests and it would SLOWLY work. I tried to plant and then, it was not planted at all. I had to slowly plant - in a time sensitive event! Really, it was so not fun because everyone was doing missions and the speed of the game had slowed down to playing through pudding speed. I was not the only one commenting on it. Now it is over, it has all cleared up. The speed is back, everything works. In addition, I upgraded my gate during the mission time and the time started OVER at the 1/2 way mark - really! What a technical mess. It is unfair to ask your players to go as fast as they can when your server is overwhelmed by the event. And in case you want to bump it back to me - my computer is very fast, with all the bells and whistles to handle large graphics.  
  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    While I agree with all of the comments summarized about missions, especially feeling forced to use gold just to get to position 3 or 4 in a mission, I want to add that the worst part is the way the server acts during the mission times. Yes, I cleared my cache - repeatedly. I would click on fields or other harvests and it would SLOWLY work. I tried to plant and then, it was not planted at all. I had to slowly plant - in a time sensitive event! Really, it was so not fun because everyone was doing missions and the speed of the game had slowed down to playing through pudding speed. I was not the only one commenting on it. Now it is over, it has all cleared up. The speed is back, everything works. In addition, I upgraded my gate during the mission time and the time started OVER at the 1/2 way mark - really! What a technical mess. It is unfair to ask your players to go as fast as they can when your server is overwhelmed by the event. And in case you want to bump it back to me - my computer is very fast, with all the bells and whistles to handle large graphics.  
    Agree 100% and I can only imagine it'll be even slower when the new event is on. Ughh
  • Kirksa (US1)Kirksa (US1) Posts: 100
    edited 05.07.2017
    Also, using the new information I learned about missions on this post, I thought I would earn some daily points. So, I was assigned a mission with a player at level 300+, and 2 at 200+ and then there is me at level 85. Really - whomever thinks I might win or even place in this stacked field? All three players swamped me in the first 5 minutes. And now I know that since I was 4th out of 4, I should not get any points. (Correction: It did give me a few rep points, but I wasn't sure if it was from the task completion or from the mission itself). So, while I did earn the task, I also lost the tiny bit of gold I used to try to get to 3rd place before the level 200+ player who was in 4th place shot to second place and left me back at 4th - now 7000 eggs from the next player who dropped to 3rd. I have really improved my eggs lately, but I am just not large enough to compete with these players without gold - and that is not fair to me, either. Gold is real cash, which may be good for the developers, but I want to use it for things I want to buy, not feel forced to use it to compete. Missions really needs to be re-thought. It is a no win - no win for lower level players.  Just saying!  Thanks for listening.
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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617

    Also, using the new information I learned about missions on this post, I thought I would earn some daily points. So, I was assigned a mission with a player at level 300+, and 2 at 200+ and then there is me at level 85. Really - whomever thinks I might win or even place in this stacked field? All three players swamped me in the first 5 minutes. And now I know that since I was 4th out of 4, I should not get any points. (Correction: It did give me a few rep points, but I wasn't sure if it was from the task completion or from the mission itself). So, while I did earn the task, I also lost the tiny bit of gold I used to try to get to 3rd place before the level 200+ player who was in 4th place shot to second place and left me back at 4th - now 7000 eggs from the next player who dropped to 3rd. I have really improved my eggs lately, but I am just not large enough to compete with these players without gold - and that is not fair to me, either. Gold is real cash, which may be good for the developers, but I want to use it for things I want to buy, not feel forced to use it to compete. Missions really needs to be re-thought. It is a no win - no win for lower level players.  Just saying!  Thanks for listening.
    I am a mid-level player, but even when I was a very low level player, I earned decent RPs without spending one bit of gold.  It won't happen every time, but it will happen enough that you will see your RPs grow without spending any gold -- a lot of good players here don't use it in the CCs, if at all.  Let the big gold spenders throw away their money -- you don't have to.

    It's all about the RPs, not winning.  In fact, I try to shelve as soon as possible even if it puts me in last place, just to collect my daily mission bonus.
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    Also, using the new information I learned about missions on this post, I thought I would earn some daily points. So, I was assigned a mission with a player at level 300+, and 2 at 200+ and then there is me at level 85. Really - whomever thinks I might win or even place in this stacked field? All three players swamped me in the first 5 minutes. And now I know that since I was 4th out of 4, I should not get any points. (Correction: It did give me a few rep points, but I wasn't sure if it was from the task completion or from the mission itself). So, while I did earn the task, I also lost the tiny bit of gold I used to try to get to 3rd place before the level 200+ player who was in 4th place shot to second place and left me back at 4th - now 7000 eggs from the next player who dropped to 3rd. I have really improved my eggs lately, but I am just not large enough to compete with these players without gold - and that is not fair to me, either. Gold is real cash, which may be good for the developers, but I want to use it for things I want to buy, not feel forced to use it to compete. Missions really needs to be re-thought. It is a no win - no win for lower level players.  Just saying!  Thanks for listening.
    I am a player who's level has surpassed 200. No I do not use gold during any mission CC or not and rarely finish 3rd. They need to readjust the level the players are sorted into.
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    Here is my opinion on missions:  I am level 124.  More often than not I am with players level 200 and above. This means they have been playing a lot longer than I have and have had a longer period of time to develop their farms OR they have used a LOT of gold to advance, either way, it only means one thing for me during that mission ... last place.  However, I did not start getting stuck with higher level players until I had a match on a coop challenge mission and a coop project that had wildflowers.  I had all special Wildflowers with special humus. Since then, it feels like I am being put in with players with my "potential" instead of my level.  BUT with 4 different crop missions, I highly doubt I will have special wild flowers with special humus very often.

    Placement in the missions should be based SOLELY on player level and not what they could possibly achieve during a mission.  But something does need to be done about splitting up the levels a LOT better.  But that may be hard considering so many players are not doing missions now for this exact reason, being stuck with members that are a lot higher ranked in level.  ::::: SIGH :::::: what a vicious cycle 

    Also, the coop challenge missions are becoming .... well .... pathetic .... Soooooo many players simply shelving missions with NO points and so many starting the missions but not even doing them at all.  This lowers the possible points that can be received because there is NO ONE left to compete with in the mission.  I am not sure whose bright idea it was to give us the farm machine to shelve the mission with NO points.  I think it would have been a lot better to have a machine that gives us a choice between 2 or 3 missions instead or at the very least, a machine that reduced the needed amount in order to shelve.
  • buddy194 (US1)buddy194 (US1) US1 Posts: 382
    At Level 217, I would probably be considered a high-level player, except that I don't use gold.  3rd place is about the highest I'm able to place in a mission.   However, I'm used to that.  What really bothers me about the player matching is when I find I'm in a mission with Level 40 or 50 players (or even Level 20 on occasion.)  How can that possibly be fair to them?

    And that business of "you get more points because of the huge harvest players," well, that may be how the algorithm was designed to work, but in actual practice it's awful to see the same harvest that gives you 40K points in 1st place only gives you 20K points in 3rd.  
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    @buddy194 (US1)
    Try seeing the same harvest that gets you 40K points for 1st place turn into only 10K points for 1st place when you are the only person in the mission OR when everyone except you shelves their mission.  THAT is the worst and most frustrating!
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    @buddy194 (US1)
    Try seeing the same harvest that gets you 40K points for 1st place turn into only 10K points for 1st place when you are the only person in the mission OR when everyone except you shelves their mission.  THAT is the worst and most frustrating!
    and used to happen all the time when missions were "fairer". If it couldn't find players of your level to play against you played by yourself and scored next to nothing. I would not want to go back to that, I'll settle for a battle to see who comes 3rd.
  • Val C (GB1)Val C (GB1) GB1 Posts: 277
    Many thanks GGS for making the amount required for shelving dung more realistic.  No more hanging around waiting for the mission to end, as I always seem to get a dung mission just as the stack master runs out.  Now just keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't a bug.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Many thanks GGS for making the amount required for shelving dung more realistic.  No more hanging around waiting for the mission to end, as I always seem to get a dung mission just as the stack master runs out.  Now just keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't a bug.
    LOL!  Their generosity with dung knows no bounds.  I have had several back-to-back dung missions.  *sarcastic expression*  :)

  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    What a pile of crap artful........pun intended! :)
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    What a pile of crap artful........pun intended! :)
    Yes, indeed it is!

  • It seems the stackmaster comes with it's own pile of dung and driving the stackmaster through it gets harder and harder as it gets deeper and deeper.  AND if that's not enough I decided to use it because I got tired of waiting on milk & eggs for a solid 6 hours !   But wait there's more.... I finally get eggs and it's a lone mission against, me myself and I.  How does that happen during the CCE ???

    It's really frustrating when you try to do all the "so called" new helps for WE players and WE get knocked down using them.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    It seems the stackmaster comes with it's own pile of dung and driving the stackmaster through it gets harder and harder as it gets deeper and deeper.  AND if that's not enough I decided to use it because I got tired of waiting on milk & eggs for a solid 6 hours !   But wait there's more.... I finally get eggs and it's a lone mission against, me myself and I.  How does that happen during the CCE ???

    It's really frustrating when you try to do all the "so called" new helps for WE players and WE get knocked down using them.
    I've had both a lone corn mission and, wait for it, a lone wildflower mission.  I think it's happening because not as many people are bothering with the CC at all.

    I'm just coasting ... decided to try my hand at edge plants, so that's what I do on corn and rutabaga missions, because I just don't care anymore.

  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    Eggs.  Back to back.  Ducks are already done.  

    Now feed.  Twice in a row?   WTH?

    Used my machine so I can get something and get out. 
    Got lots of stuff waiting to harvest.  But this is rapidly becoming no fun at all.
    One more attempt then I'm out.  Don't care.   If GG thinks I'm dumping any funds into this nonsense they are sadly mistaken.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    I do the bare minimum, then shelve.  (Don't have the stackmaster, yet.)  That way at least I can do a few back-to-backs before tanking.
  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    Three farms, this happened on two of them.  SAME MISSION THREE TIMES IN A ROW!  Feed on one farm, alfalfa on another.  SHEES!  I come on with everything ready to harvest.  I should get a few halfway descent scores in but not when the exact same mission keeps showing up back to back.  

    Phoey.  I'm out.  Next one that rolls around, first time it happens I'm tossing in the towel before I waste too much valuable gold or special bags of stuff to push things.  There are plenty of available missions. Surely the game programers can fix it to they don't come up back to back.  
  • I had back to back pigs, and back to back eggs. Not fun!!
  • dchen1 (US1)dchen1 (US1) US1 Posts: 993
    I started 30 missions, never seen a single feed mission.  I have 500 feed ready to collect.  
  • dchen1 (US1)dchen1 (US1) US1 Posts: 993
    I started 30 missions, never seen a single feed mission.  I have 500 feed ready to collect.  
    Finally got a feed mission.  
  • i am getting real sick of doing back to back same mission, will someone fix this
  • Zoltanne (US1)Zoltanne (US1) US1 Posts: 3
    This morning's egg mission forced me to shelve because of a GGS malfunction. I was not credited for harvesting chicken or duck eggs during that mission and was forced to stop playing.

    I keep very good records, and am observant. I know what I harvested. I harvested 11 chicken coops and 4 duck coops, and my total only recorded 898 eggs. After several minutes, it was obvious that there was a problem.

    So I stopped playing the mission. At that point, I decided to watch a small harvest: I harvested an Irish chicken coop, Level 5. I should have yielded 73 eggs. I received a total count of 24 eggs.  Adding 24 eggs to my 898 eggs, I then had 917 eggs. It was still incorrect!!

    At that point, I quit harvesting eggs for this mission altogether.
    I waited a few more minutes and did not see that "a lag" corrected the total which should have recorded 4 duck coops.

    I shelved the game. About 10 minutes later, I received the final results and the game gave me credit for a grand total of 917 eggs.  I actually had thousands more eggs that were not recorded. I should have had 3,522 eggs recorded prior to shelving this egg mission.

    I lost the game because of the problem. I lost Rep Points because of the problem. But worse, I lost faith in doing missions, and at this point, will not take on any missions with 'full faith' and use any gold again.
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