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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,473
    JVD (US1) said:
    How about a lock on everything so no one can do anything....  Some things need to be handled by the peeps, as hard as that may be, not the game maker... I for one do not want GGS putting a lock on everything I do in this game, I listen to those in charge of my coop and respect the leadership and directives, yes accidents will happen, but no need to shame them... it is a game and should be played  for  fun.... it is not the end  of  the world, but an inconvenience if something is started unexpectedly, If your peeps in the coop don't listen, get rid of them all... or don't make them deputies or whatever... Stop  with the locks for everything,  stop  with the put up a name so  we can shame  them...  I really don't know the answer, but I don't want to have to ask permission for all I do in this game.. and yes, I know, I don't have to join a coop to avoid this issue... something to think about!

    Edit: just needed to vent a little about all these locks and put up names and... and... ignore me!  Thanks
    It is easy enough to make locks optional. A lot of things need it. If your coop doesn't want to use them, it wouldn't have to.
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  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    Hello everyone :))

    I know, there has been a lot of discussion about this in the past , but i dont think the actual system of vote , works well

    The left vote button requires 1/3 of the coop members to start upgrade, While the right vote button only requires 1 vote for it to start ( its way too easy for anyone to start an upgrade instantly without having to talk with other members )

    I wonder, if it would be possible to change that right vote button to maybe a little more votes? ( Something that is not too hard to get the votes to get it started, and something that is'nt WAY TOO easy to get unwanted upgrades started by any member )

    Maybe a Speed Start button, That would require 1/6 or 1/8 or 1/10th of members, to start it? :)

    What does everyone thinks? :)

  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    edited 08.07.2019
    Come on @artful (US1)

    Did you even take time, to calculate my 1/10 option ( i guess a 1/15 or 1/20  could be a possiblity too )

    At 1/10, For a 10 members coop

    It would still only need 1 person to vote, to start upgrading

    And from 11 to 20 members, it would require 2 ( Oh big deal ) if u cant get a second person to vote... its truely bad in ur coop :S

    Okay, Extrapolating with a 1/20 members setup ( it would be better for us, as it would require 4 votes )

    And it would require 21 members in a coop, to require 2 members.. to get it started..

  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    My point, would be to replace the 1-vote option by a vote ( determined by the quantity of members in your cooperative )

    If u have a small coop, Amount of votes would very low

    And it would scale, with the size of your coop :)

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,473
    You haven't really explained how this would improve the game, or why you think this change is necessary. Please do.
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  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    Yup, I can easily do

    For a large coop, it prevents one person alone, from starting instantly any Coop village upgrades and thus causing harm to all others, that were not ready for it at all

    We're 70 in our coop, 1 person alone, can start a building upgrade , its a little too easy, I'd say :)



  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    Gnuh...

    But okay, Lets say, they would set it at a ratio of 1/20

    Lets assume u have full 75 in ur coop

    You would need a grand total of 4 votes to start instantly, ( That would be easy peasy no? )

  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,714
    yes, it would be easy peasy in our coop, but I don't see the need for it personally

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  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    edited 08.07.2019
    Well, you never had one single person in your coop, that just started a village upgrade, just like that? because all the materials were filled

    It happens here, once in a while ( it might have to do with language barriers or unwareness )

    We're international server, and we have people from all the word, and not everyone speaks super english :)

    And as strange as it sounds, I never made being able to speak/understand english as a prerequisite for our coop, Everyone is free to speak the language of their choice :D

  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    Well, See JVD

    I lead differently ( There is some different risks involved in that )

    But i also believe, it makes people feel way more involved in the coop

    I promote very easily people to deputy :)

    61/70 are deputy right now , and 2 never wanted to be, by choice =p

  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,714
    edited 08.07.2019
    I am not the leader, but most all of our peeps are deputies as well :)

    anyway, my comments were my opinion only!

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  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,539
    You too JVD :)

    Was just trying to justify my demand :)

    if it would ask for 4-6 votes, no single individuals could start it without talking about it much=p

  • GrammaLeah (US1)GrammaLeah (US1) US1 Posts: 557
    edited 08.07.2019
    Yep, that's the way it works in ours, too.
    I send out a message so all can start a long production, and upgrade.
    No need to make the others vote.
    edited for spelling
  • DebRN (US1)DebRN (US1) US1 Posts: 687
    We give 48 hr notice for upgrades and honestly, no one wants to take the responsibility of it any way.  There have been an occasional "oops"... but it's pretty rare.  We only have a handful in the coop and most don't read/reply to any messages... having a vote would be a disaster for us.  Unless I walk someone through the process, even the 4 deputies don't want to do it!
  • nola1 (INT1)nola1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 187
    It is time for GGS to make a CHANGE🗣!!Village upgrades without notice are started by members who don’t care about anyone else but themselves.Upgrades are usually scheduled in such a way that it doesn’t affect events such as WWC.But in every coop there is always someone who starts upgrades on their own and claim it was an accident but most times it is done more than twice and no one makes a MISTAKE twice.Some actually start the upgrades on their own and don’t say anything at all.These upgrades take days to complete and it interferes with personal production schedules since most persons have to go to WORK.GGS needs to stop postponing/ignoring this topic and help us out BY SHOWING US THE NAME OF THE PERSONS WHO STARTED THE UPGRADE IN CHAT ROOM exactly like  when persons start challenges in Village Fair everyone can see who started that challenge.Since we cannot see who started the upgrade, no matter how much times we post coop messages stating to not upgrade the factories on their own, they would still do it and no one will know that they did it.
    GGS PLEASE HELP US AND ALSO REMOVE THE VOTING SYSTEM IN THE COOP VILLAGE.



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  • @nola1 (INT1) That is not necessarily true - This has been submitted in the past & the last response we got was in March 2018, when they said that it would be considered alongside other suggestions about who can start an upgrade.  If we get more recent posts saying how it is still causing problems, we can try to get it back on the table.


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  • marywisc (US1)marywisc (US1) US1 Posts: 176
    @WascallyWabbit We are constantly asking for who starts a village upgrade or uses village dollars to be posted in chat. Also, who starts coop boosters for a coop event.

    And please, any coop event should have a coop ranking showing the activity for coop members as in the CC and Village Fair.

    Thank you
  • GrammaLeah (US1)GrammaLeah (US1) US1 Posts: 557
    edited 04.09.2019
    PLEASE do not make it so only leaders and deputies can start challenges!
    We are only allowed 1 deputy, so if neither of us are on (we are in the same time zone while other members are awake when we are asleep) the co-op would be just sitting there.
  • GuestSdaf (US1)GuestSdaf (US1) US1 Posts: 82
    yes it would be very nice to see the voting for village upgrades eliminated.  members vote and think that they are helping the co op, but to start upgrades of factories during wwc hurts everyone's points.  having trouble keeping up with repairs on the boat?  just wait till some vote to upgrade it...then it is just a loss!  
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,894
    @WascallyWabbit We are constantly asking for who starts a village upgrade or uses village dollars to be posted in chat. Also, who starts coop boosters for a coop event.

    And please, any coop event should have a coop ranking showing the activity for coop members as in the CC and Village Fair.

    Thank you
    Agreed, anything that *costs* the Co-Op either Co-Op Dollars or Co-Op Gold should definitely be put in chat as to who spent it, and how much they spent. That applies to anything - CHWE, CC, Village Fair, Materials "purchased" for upgrading Co-Op buildings, etc.

    No one should be able to spend Co-Op funds without being accountable.
    Right with both of you. Co ops need this to help manage the co op effectively.

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  • GrammaLeah (US1)GrammaLeah (US1) US1 Posts: 557
    If your co-op members want buildings upgraded, then why are you trying to stop them? The resources they are putting into them are THEIRS to do what they want with, not the property of the co-op.

    What "buildings" cost more to use after upgrading (aside from the raft on the Co-op Village) ?
  • Uncle John (AU1)Uncle John (AU1) AU1 Posts: 8,527
    Both Factories -  they reduce happiness thus increasing costs across the board
    The Meadow - reduces the points given unless extra horses are kept there
    Discouraging donations is currently the only way to prevent voting becoming active. If there was a lock to prevent voting, donations would not be a problem   :¬)

       
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