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  • TMKC (IN1)TMKC (IN1) IN1 Posts: 939
    edited 17.05.2019
    Having been asked to keep on posting etc (thank you for your support) I'dd add my views to this.  

    For me the big problem is the way they had structured some of the events to exclude certain groups of players unless those players spend a ton of gold.  

    Now, of course those that play more should achieve more, that is only right - it wouldn't be fair for someone to harvest a field once and get the same benefit as someone that harvested 50 times and for non event based farming thats the way it should be.  For events, especially the PP, it denies those of us who are not able to be here every 10 minutes or so any chance of obtaining the prizes which I dont believe is right. Too many events like that will leave groups of players seeing no point in playing at all - losing out on rewards etc will affect their ability to take part and compete in events not biased towards the 'all day every day' player.

    I really am a believer of quality over quantity and just my opinion I'd rather see a game with less events that are bug free and fair to all making them a real event, something to look forward to and enjoy, than a schedule littered with loads of 'events; many of which have bugs and glitches in, that are pointless to play for a lot of players.
    This is why Indian server is best to play this game ... non-gold buyers getting top 10 ranks
    Only 100-200 passive players ... no one buys gold .... everyone is chilling and farming peacefully ...
    It takes just 1 token to get 48 hours of Xp booster .... and 50 tokens to get in top 5 in CC WoF, Only 400 Fuku tokens to win school

    A 900 + level players from Greece server has her spare in our co-op and she loves it.
    Another from Brazil just joined us
    And now our own Ninja from AU joined us.

    We are having fun with 0 stress on this server .... Even the pop ups are less here .... less lag too
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    See here's the source of my frustration (apart from event overloads, bugs and lag). Players come out and point out gold we can win during events, GGS sees it, then the event rewards are "rebalanced" and we get garbage for our efforts. Maybe if players only pointed out the big problems instead of nit-picking every little thing we might still have decent rewards in a CC for example.
    Whatever we do, they wont fix anything . They do what they like lol . 
    Have done enough ranting about the stupid personal rewards for HWE,CHWE etc but nothing was done and wont be done too mostly. 
    So, its better atleast if people know we can make a good amount if we dont play anything seriously lol and only do whatever gives us benefit  :) .


    My point on this was that its better not to brag about the good rewards. Deep sea fishing for example was a huge money earner, everyone loved it then players started bragging about the billions of dollars they had from playing it and GGS took it away and gave us a dumbed down much less profitable version of it. CC suffered a similar fate as will the Village Fair if we keep waving the gold rewards and stating the amounts we have won in front of GGS. They are looking for an excuse to "rebalance" events and won't like the fact 50k gold (if thats real or true) can be won from events per month. Ultimately they want players to buy gold than they win so sometimes when we have a good thing (VF) its better not to say anything about it at all.

    Hope all is well Rocky  :)
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    edited 17.05.2019
    See here's the source of my frustration (apart from event overloads, bugs and lag). Players come out and point out gold we can win during events, GGS sees it, then the event rewards are "rebalanced" and we get garbage for our efforts. Maybe if players only pointed out the big problems instead of nit-picking every little thing we might still have decent rewards in a CC for example.
    Whatever we do, they wont fix anything . They do what they like lol . 
    Have done enough ranting about the stupid personal rewards for HWE,CHWE etc but nothing was done and wont be done too mostly. 
    So, its better atleast if people know we can make a good amount if we dont play anything seriously lol and only do whatever gives us benefit  :) .


    My point on this was that its better not to brag about the good rewards. Deep sea fishing for example was a huge money earner, everyone loved it then players started bragging about the billions of dollars they had from playing it and GGS took it away and gave us a dumbed down much less profitable version of it. CC suffered a similar fate as will the Village Fair if we keep waving the gold rewards and stating the amounts we have won in front of GGS. They are looking for an excuse to "rebalance" events and won't like the fact 50k gold (if thats real or true) can be won from events per month. Ultimately they want players to buy gold than they win so sometimes when we have a good thing (VF) its better not to say anything about it at all.

    Hope all is well Rocky  :)
    Clearing out the posts  :D . What u say is right(completely agree), dont want to see anything removed/tweaked.


  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    edited 18.05.2019
    I'm impressed, but please tell us how.
    JVD (US1) said:
    yes, please do! I am very impressed! :)
    It can depend on some things like how competitive your server is, how strong your cooperative is and how well-developed your farms are, but it is like what Exxy and Rocky said.

    Hard worker events and cooperative hard worker events are not as good as before because the gold mining licenses from the hard work rewards are either removed or require way too many resources to obtain. Finishing in rank 50 will give you a gold mining license so if you can do that, it is 2,000 gold every time those events come.

    The fishing hard worker event is similar except there is a gold mining license available in the hard work rewards that is at an achievable target. So you can get 2,000 gold if you can't get top 50 and 4,000 gold if you can. Although sometimes you will have some unlucky boxes and you will need to use a bit of gold to get it. But you will still earn a profit.

    The cooperative championships sometimes has some gold mystery boxes available as hard work rewards but my cooperative almost never collects enough points to reach it. We do get enough for top 5 ranking in our server though and I always pick the best gold mystery box which gives 1,200 gold on average.

    The village fair gives an awesome amount of gold at the moment if you have some players to work together with. Then you can get large boosters and get all the rewards that contain gold mining licenses or gold mystery boxes and that will give you about 10,000 gold. Even if the players in your cooperative do not pay much attention to the event, you can still get the 3 gold mining licenses by yourself which gives 6,000 gold. Plus you can also get some gold mystery boxes as a ranking reward if your cooperative can do well in it.

    Winning tokens from the temporary farms and other events also gives a good amount of gold for using it on the worldwide championship wheel of fortune. It also gives a lot of championship coins for collecting themed buildings at the same time. The candy farm gives 3 gold mining licenses from collecting 30,000,000 vouchers as well.

    I don't know how much the Shinkei-Suijaku gives on average but last time I played it, I got 3 gold mining licenses from it. So that is also a good way to get some gold.

    You can also play the weekly event speed tasks if you have very well-developed farms to get some gold mystery boxes. It will depend on how much competition there is on your server for those spaces but they can give a good amount of gold as well. At the moment I can only get gold from Not of this World but I can complete all of the speed tasks with 0 gold and I get 5 gold mystery boxes back from it. You can also do a few others as well but you generally can't complete them without gold but it is sometimes worth it to complete it if you get a half time production booster to skip the item required (like aloe vera gel in Mysterious Asia). And you can often get the gold back from the last few tasks.

    There are a few more ways like with the goldfish rescue but these are the most frequent events to give gold. Hopefully the pleasure park will give some good amount of gold from those gold mining licenses. Last time I got 5 gold mystery boxes from it from finishing in the top 10.

    Also remember that there are different types of mystery boxes that give different amounts of gold:



    This mystery box is the weakest one. It gives 32 gold on average (1% chance for 1 gold mining license and 4% chance for 300 gold).



    This is the weakest gold mystery box. It gives 425 gold on average (10% chance for 1 gold mining license and 10% chance for 3 goldflower seeds).



    This mystery box is the second best mystery box. It gives 775 gold on average (10% chance for 2 gold mining licenses and 10% chance for 5 goldflower seeds).



    This is the best gold mystery box. It gives 1,200 gold on average (10% chance for 3 gold mining licenses and 10% chance for 8 goldflower seeds).

    Goldflower seeds give 750 gold on average.

    I hope this will help give you some more information. You can always reply or send me a message if you have any more questions. :)
    Post edited by ninjahuman (AU1) on
  • Back to back WWC events...   hmmm. those that will earn production boosters in this first WWC will have a big advantage in the following to start, 
    @Seeker1 (US1) We have pointed this out & the team are looking into it - it was too late for this run of the event though.
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    @ninjahuman (AU1)

    Great visual display and explanation :)
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    @ninjahuman (AU1)

    Great visual display and explanation :)

    Thanks. :)
  • @WascallyWabbit Can we please find out if WWC is going to be continuous, without break.  Our co op want to upgrade Minerals and Metals factory on co op village and usually only do when there is no WWC. 
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    @WascallyWabbit Can we please find out if WWC is going to be continuous, without break.  Our co op want to upgrade Minerals and Metals factory on co op village and usually only do when there is no WWC. 
    That's how most coops do it, too. This last time, we had no choice but to go ahead with the upgrades. 
  • @WascallyWabbit Can we please find out if WWC is going to be continuous, without break.  Our co op want to upgrade Minerals and Metals factory on co op village and usually only do when there is no WWC. 
    @Byron Longford (AU1) We don't know about long-term, but the next one is back-to-back again if that helps.
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    @artful (US1)

    Points for the Coop category from Factories are fairly low

    Can easily be done with edge seeds
  • @WascallyWabbit thanks, yes it does help as we may as well upgrade now otherwise it is at least 1 more month
  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    edited 24.05.2019
    @WascallyWabbit Can we please find out if WWC is going to be continuous, without break.  Our co op want to upgrade Minerals and Metals factory on co op village and usually only do when there is no WWC. 
    @Byron Longford (AU1) We don't know about long-term, but the next one is back-to-back again if that helps.
    Seriously?! So now the WWC is no longer an actual event, but an everyday occurrence. So, just like the CC, there is now no sense putting in extra effort towards the WWC if this is the case
    Post edited by MRG1 (US1) on
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    @WascallyWabbit Can we please find out if WWC is going to be continuous, without break.  Our co op want to upgrade Minerals and Metals factory on co op village and usually only do when there is no WWC. 
    @Byron Longford (AU1) We don't know about long-term, but the next one is back-to-back again if that helps.
    Seriously?! So now the WWC is no longer an actual event, but an everyday occurrence. So, just like the CC, there is now no sense putting in extra effort towards the WWC if this is the case
    Agree. I posted something similar. No big deal now. No reason to put forth much effort.
  • TMKC (IN1)TMKC (IN1) IN1 Posts: 939
    Back to back WWC ....

    It has increased gold spending ... as the half timer players get, everyone starts skipping just a little to stay ahead in wwc rankings ... for the immediate next wwc.

    After 2-3 days ... when players are a bit ahead , they spend more than usual gold to maintain their WWC rankings ... for the rest of the wwc.

    More players could focus on Greta Masterpiece event than now ...
    Also, during WWC, players get more active on our server. They play more, skip more, spend more, buy more.

    Personally , I like the idea of back to back wwc ... All activity on any farm gives some points in wwc ...


  • Just imagine in the real life world championships, like the Football World Cup, maybe The Heavyweight Boxing Championships, Formula 1 Car Racing happened every day - no rest breaks etc.  1) the competitors would collapse through exhaustion and 2) they wouldn't be special anymore.

    Much as I like the wcc, we should have some breaks otherwise it looses significance.  It should in my opinion be something special - a real 'event' in the proper sense of the word. 
  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    Back to back WWC ....

    It has increased gold spending ... as the half timer players get, everyone starts skipping just a little to stay ahead in wwc rankings ... for the immediate next wwc.

    After 2-3 days ... when players are a bit ahead , they spend more than usual gold to maintain their WWC rankings ... for the rest of the wwc.

    More players could focus on Greta Masterpiece event than now ...
    Also, during WWC, players get more active on our server. They play more, skip more, spend more, buy more.

    Personally , I like the idea of back to back wwc ... All activity on any farm gives some points in wwc ...


    Players get more active in the WWC because it is an event. When an event becomes a daily routine, people tend to only do the usual activities. I used to love the WWC. (emphasis on 'used to')...

    I for one, can't imagine playing every WWC at full throttle if they are always part of the game. The CC used to be an event and I used to go all out in missions. Not anymore since they are always running. Now the CC just runs in the background as I play my normal way. The WWC will become like that if it is constantly running.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    Looking at this positively I don't mind back to back WWC's because its an individual event. Unlike CC thats crammed down our throats constantly there's no pressure to farm hard because sitting back doing very little doesn't affect other players. You can choose to farm normally and collect coins or you can choose to go hard and try to get yourself a Grandhouse. I farm on a daily basis anyway so i'd rather collect coins while doing so......it doesn't change the way I play.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 25.05.2019
    the only reasons they should not be back to back, but 1 week break, is the 1/2 production time effects the next WWC  (winner gets huge advantage on next WWC) and with 1 week break would also give us time to upgrade village buildings.

    GGS won't allow us to use 1/2 production time when we want but then give the winner a huge advantage on next WWC, hypocrites or what.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    Looking at this positively I don't mind back to back WWC's because its an individual event. Unlike CC thats crammed down our throats constantly there's no pressure to farm hard because sitting back doing very little doesn't affect other players. You can choose to farm normally and collect coins or you can choose to go hard and try to get yourself a Grandhouse. I farm on a daily basis anyway so i'd rather collect coins while doing so......it doesn't change the way I play.
    Yes, but sometimes it's fun to have something to look forward to, to plan for. When they introduced the WWC, it was fun waiting for it, and going at it with gusto. (You know, the way CCs used to be when they were quarterly.) Now it's farm, collect whatever, yawn, yawn, yawn. Eventually the people who throw gold at it to win will decrease in numbers while the rest of us become bored to tears because the WWC is just more background noise.

    Don't get me wrong, I love rewards just for farming. But I also enjoyed pushing for the WWC when it came around every few months. Now I just log in, harvest, see what I have collected, and log back out again.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 25.05.2019
    The reason Players on small servers don't mind back to back ( with 1 week break)  is it is very hard for us to get any WWC coins at all.  What you get in 1 WWC on our server for the same amount of points takes us 2 or 3 WWC.  By running nearly all the time at least give us a chance to get some coins.  @artful (US1)  

    I still would prefer to see equal points per server get equal coins and server ranking only effect final rewards.  This has always been said to be more fair but always ignored but GGS
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    The reason Players on small servers don't mind back to back ( with 1 week break)  is it is very hard for us to get any WWC coins at all.  What you get in 1 WWC on our server for the same amount of points takes us 2 or 3 WWC.  By running nearly all the time at least give us a chance to get some coins.  @artful (US1)  

    I still would prefer to see equal points per server get equal coins and server ranking only effect final rewards.  This has always been said to be more fair but always ignored but GGS
    Oh, definitely the point system should be changed, Byron. Players should not be penalized because of their server. :)
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    I don't see having constant worldwide championships as an issue. We can collect championship coins and rewards by simply playing as normal and ignoring the event, and when we wish to do well for it we can put more effort into it.
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    @ninjahuman (AU1)

    Agreed

    And for the initial advantage

    If you really want to perform its not 3 days out of 28 that will have a huge impact on the final result

    I do top 20 all the time , so i get 3 days .. 

    Only the winner gets a bit more
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 25.05.2019
    @Exxy (INT1)  what 1/4 of the time is not big impact, you got to be joking.7 out of 28 days
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    You are talking about the winner

    I still get 3 days, So he only gets 4 days advantage

    And even there , 4 extra days for 1 person wont affect me much

    If ur trying to WIN , you'll need much more than 4 days at disadvantage to win it =p
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    I like back to back WWC's . I usually finish top 20(sometimes top 5) and i m more than happy with it . I dont need any WWC coins as i have bought all special buildings i needed, so its just free rewards for collecting farm once or twice which i normally do :smile:
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    @WascallyWabbit Can we please find out if WWC is going to be continuous, without break.  Our co op want to upgrade Minerals and Metals factory on co op village and usually only do when there is no WWC. 
    @Byron Longford (AU1) We don't know about long-term, but the next one is back-to-back again if that helps.
    So just to clarify, there's going to be another WWC in June, immediately following our current one?
  • Exxy (INT1)Exxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 2,602
    I think you got that right Southern :)
  • I'm all for back to back WWC's, it's the only event that makes sense to run as such as it's individual, and it has no impact if you don't play it actively (aside from that you get free gains... I mean, what's bad on that?)

    Yes, the winner has an advantage on the next one, but that's also something he probably worked his a$$ off for for the weeks before, and people do tend to need a break at some point. 

    WWC only adjustment that should be made IMO is that the rewards for the "farm" should be more difficult to obtain (more points needed per prize) while the opposite should be the case for fishing rewards. And hey, perhaps change the rewards for all 5 around a bit from time to time.
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