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6 players = 100% - 90% - 80% - 20% - 10% - 0%
The 1st place player (You, in this case), sets the bar. If you come in 1st place, you get the maximum amount of (BASE) RP for the mission (100%). Whomever is 2nd gets 90% of what YOU get. 3rd place gets 80% of what YOU get (or maybe it's 80% of what 2nd place gets, I'm not entirely sure on that one). etc., etc., all the way down to 6th place.
So the way I understand it, if you come in 1st place with say, 50,000 (BASE) RP, 2nd place will always get 45,000 (BASE) RP regardless of how many crops they harvest.
And of course everyone's BASE RP is then affected by boosters, tractors, bonuses, etc. It's entirely possible for 2nd place to get more RP than *1st* place in the end, if 2nd place has better boosters.
So because you "set the bar", the more points YOU get (as the 1st place winner), everyone else gets more points because it's based on the (1st place winners) total RP. If you continually harvest the same amounts, you'll always get the same amount of (Base) RP as long as you're in first place. But if you harvest more (or less), but still come in 1st place, then you not only affect the amount of RP you get, but the amount of RP that everyone *under* you gets.
At least that's the way I understand it.
Wabbits original response says - "Each player in a mission gets RP based on their own score & then, in addition, each (except the one in last place) also gets a % of the total RP earned by all the players."
How much other players harvest must affect the RP they earn and therefor should certainly affect "the total RP earned by all the players"
Very odd.
I know that's what Marowit told use a long time ago, but I do believe something has changed.
Based on @5-10 Man (AU1)'s assertion that one of his Co-Op members had been tracking his wins and not seeing the expected behaviour, I decided to do the same. The data I've collected over multiple missions does indicate that it doesn't matter how much is collected by other people in the mission, the amount of RP & Certs you receive is based *entirely* on how much YOU collect and where YOU place in the mission.
See my sample data set:
This is a sampling of some missions that I've grouped together by the amount of Corn, Eggs, Milk, Pigs & Wildflowers produced during the mission, where I *placed* in the mission, and how much RP I received. The overall RP varies a little, based on whether I qualified for the 10% Bonus or not, but you can see the by the "Base RP" column that the Base RP's match exactly, and was based solely on how much I harvested and where I ranked. RP Bonus includes a 20% Co-Op Booster, 25% Personal Booster, and sometimes a 10% "3-minute from last mission" booster.
If you take the 4 WildFlower missions for instance, where I have 4 missions with 26,544 Wildflowers Harvested and winning 2nd place each time, the amount of Base RP & certs match exactly - regardless of how many Wildflowers "1st Place" produced. There's a slight variation on Total RP based on whether I received the 10% bonus for stating a mission within 3 minutes, except for the last one, where I *ONLY* had the 20% Co-Op Booster Running. Oops. Forgot to start the Personal one. hehe. Same for the other missions - it doesn't matter how much the other "ranks" in the mission harvested, I received the exact same Base RP and Certs for *where I placed in the mission and how much I harvested*.
Corn, eggs, pigs, and first two 2nd place finishes for Wildflowers are good example of those - every number matches exactly, except for how much "1st place" harvested. If Marowit's formula was coming into play, those numbers should have SOME variance basd on the 1st place harvest numbers, but they do not.
And when I win 1st place in Wildflowers, well, you can see the difference - an increase of almost 16,000 Base RP (or more, depending on your tractor bonus, Co-Op & Personal Boosters, 10% 3-minute bonus, etc; a difference of 33,000 RP, in my case). That tells me the most important thing in a mission is where you place, followed by how much you harvest, and the amount of harvest by other players is irrelevant.
I too would very much like this looked into by "The Number Guys" (or gals, whatever the case may be)
@5-10 Man (AU1) If you could post your numbers too, that would be great, the more data the better.
*1 Bonus Point*? Where'd THAT come from?
There's no CC running, so the only bonus I have active is the 70% Tractor.. Yet somehow I got 1 bonus point (Total of 6,012 RP for the mission).
So far all my (additional) data is still reflecting my hypothesis above; RP is not affected by other players in the mission. (78 data points & climbing).
@JVD (US1) - No, that would have been 354 points (3,536 * 10%). 1 point is just weird.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year all, especially to you @WascallyWabbit. You have done a tremendous job and I hope GGS put something better than a +1 bonus in your stocking.
@WascallyWabbit
You can count me in an the stat keeping, I'm good with numbers.
Also want to keep records on the HWE and CHWE events, the rewards there are way to far out of reach for ANY player. I've often been in the top 50 but only ever reach 30 or 31 on the hard work rewards.
Which thread should I post them in?
@5-10 Man (AU1) A very Merry Christmas to you too & thankyou!
Our job is made so much easier by having, in my totally biased opinion, the best BF Community, we can always rely on you guys to find every conceivable angle to poke an issue from & though it may not always be apparent, right away, that really does help towards improving the game. - +1 bonus points all round!
I will see if anyone knows what they are all about, I agree they are very strange.
@farmgirlmimi43 (US1) We have asked several times if those numbers are intentional or if someone spilled their coffee on their abacus when they were putting them in, I think last time I checked, we would need to be on something like 92 points per second for every second of the event, to reach that last reward & personally I cannot see how that is possible, but I admit I am terrible at that event, so it would still be impossible for me if required half that amount lol I will try asking again & make sure that it is on Hunter's list for things to be pushed in the new year.
I don't think that we have a specific thread for data on the HWEs, so feel free to start one, making it clear in the title what it is for or it will drift into being another general discussion about the event(s). We do have this thread about the rewards if that is what you were looking for Rewards for CC & HWE - WTH?
Is there any way that this can be improved. If nothing is done about this, your going to see more and more players stop playing in the championship.
I bet gold sales would actually increase because they'd be playing against other high gold users,and they'd have to up their spending to win.
I bet gold sales would actually increase because they'd be playing against other high gold users,and they'd have to up their spending to win.
Matching players according to reputation points was first thing that was implemented when the CC started. Unfortunately, it led to a lot of solo missions and very long waiting periods between missions. So the system was changed. Now the number of reputation points won is calculated based on your own score + a bonus that depends of total number of scores won by all players in missions and your position.
Remember, the reputation points count for CC, not the mission ranking. And the way the reputation points are calculated, you get more RP if matched with a player that collects huge amounts of products (unless you end up in the 6th place where you do not get the bonus).
So, @artful (US1), the opposite is true. When players were mached according to RP, a lot of players complainded and asked if the system can be changed (and it was). The way the system is set now, it should be beneficial to both low and high level players. Nevertheless, some players noticed that the system may not work as intendent.
I also asked about the mysterious +1.