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Update April 17th - A new Grove, a Flag and a lot of Kittie Cats! - Discussion

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  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 31.01.2023
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  • dchen1 (US1)dchen1 (US1) US1 Posts: 993
    edited 17.04.2018
    thank you for the grove - but i am sure it will be too costly for most and will it require the removal of 2 groves just to put up this one with space left over? will it produce enough to encompass the removal of 2 groves before a 2nd new grove can be earned?

    thank you for the new fert. Will it be a reward in DSF MO's or the market guy that has random things pop up over his head? or the farmworker's bubbles?

    I for one am pleased with the variety of trophies - even though this is horse racing it's not like anyone sees the horses or race so the variety is good imo - besides i like cats :) 

    the feature of going to each farm while maybe a "headache" feature it is most common AND intentional for team/co-operative games so it is not an 'incomplete' feature by any means as @qewt (US1) says

    @dchen1 (US1) has made two excellent posts regarding the tree one-click water -

    i don't feel it will easily be confused or clicked on to spend gold except by maybe a new player - new players might also get in the habit faster than more experienced players and my guess this is the target audience as well as those who will occasionally use it -

    yes i think it will water any unwatered tree regardless if a player is active or not - and that is a good reason for coop participants to ensure they only have active members (sorry to the coops that routinely have inactive players - however you are also the least likely to probably use this feature) - but I imagine if the tree is "full" and can't be watered it is skipped

    if you have watered most it still will only water the unwatered ones I know that some days I have given up if the game crashes several times or lags so much on going to others farms 

    free is better > 5 gold is excessive - since it saves GGS in the long run and if GGS really needs to charge then 1 gold is much more appropriate,

    I am sure the skins are ok and people seem to like them - overall  they are confusing farm to farm too much of a mish-mash since rarely does anyone have a "set" because of the costly nature or the availability of only through a win - they don't add happiness or anything special which I feel they should but in the end the art department has jobs ^^

    overall players  haven't we learned anything yet?? if we even give a few likes to a feature it is usually taken away or  "adjusted" - I suggest we LOVE the heck out of this one-click water in the forum - and then let them remove or "adjust" it after they test it out to see how many actually use it - they are going to do it anyway

    i have to say i am so confused because GGS claims they have been taking rewards away and adding these features based on requests ... NOT sure who is requesting but am pretty sure the requests have been interpreted incorrectly  ... just saying
    Even 1 gold is way too much.  It should be free because the time it takes to visit a farm is as much as the time it takes to use the fishing minigame for much more money.  
    Only if it requires waiting 10 minutes and gives something worth the cost such as 3 super humus, then it would make sense to spend 5 gold.  
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    Hello

    Please give priority to important things first :(
    Automatic loading of DSF boats is more important than this coop tree watering automation and why do u add gold element to everything that u bring :(
    I have not watered any of my coop member trees in past few months :D and i have no plan to do it as well in future. I rarely look at mine too .

     Seaweed things for FF its a good one :)
     but the new olive grove idea doesnt look good  given the fact that we need to buy it with wwc coins  and upgrade done only through gold or wwc coins and not with dollars  :( . I will be better off buying some more tropic and candy moos from them :)
    If they automate DSF Boats it will most likely cost a gold fee. We all need to realize this is the new normal and stop asking for stuff.  All we are doing is giving them ideas of what we would like so they can provide it with a gold charge.   Let's let them focus on all the bugs first.
    Yes ok agree with u .
    Between we asked it for free but i dunno who comes up with the idea of charging gold for everything
    In future i can see even logging in into our farm will charge us gold if it goes this way  :D

    And coop tree is one useless thing in my opinion. 
    I bought collectibles worth crores during yesterday benny bargain offer and it will take minimum 100 years i guess to get that much from coop tree even if collected nonstop. So i just ignore that part completely .

    No more ranting from my side seems useless :( and all good ideas are implemented in the worst ways :( 

  • dchen1 (US1)dchen1 (US1) US1 Posts: 993
    Hello

    Please give priority to important things first :(
    Automatic loading of DSF boats is more important than this coop tree watering automation and why do u add gold element to everything that u bring :(
    I have not watered any of my coop member trees in past few months :D and i have no plan to do it as well in future. I rarely look at mine too .

     Seaweed things for FF its a good one :)
     but the new olive grove idea doesnt look good  given the fact that we need to buy it with wwc coins  and upgrade done only through gold or wwc coins and not with dollars  :( . I will be better off buying some more tropic and candy moos from them :)
    If they automate DSF Boats it will most likely cost a gold fee. We all need to realize this is the new normal and stop asking for stuff.  All we are doing is giving them ideas of what we would like so they can provide it with a gold charge.   Let's let them focus on all the bugs first.
    Yes ok agree with u .
    Between we asked it for free but i dunno who comes up with the idea of charging gold for everything
    In future i can see even logging in into our farm will charge us gold if it goes this way  :D

    And coop tree is one useless thing in my opinion. 
    I bought collectibles worth crores during yesterday benny bargain offer and it will take minimum 100 years i guess to get that much from coop tree even if collected nonstop. So i just ignore that part completely .

    No more ranting from my side seems useless :( and all good ideas are implemented in the worst ways :( 



    2 features that players dont want to use, can be made into a worthwhile feature.  

    My suggestion for the best solution is to revamp the feature by combining the currently unusable features of the cooperative tree and the friendship pennies store at the airport and making it into a useful and worthwhile feature.   

    Every time someone waters your coop tree, there will be 10 friendship pennies to be collected.  The maximum amount the tree can hold is 10 x number of members.  
    You can water other players trees and get 5 friendship pennies yourself for every tree.  Pennies can be traded for feed, fertilizer, seeds, mystery boxes or save up for  high value decorations or upgrades such as 1 minute faster chicken coop or 20% temporary farm exchange rate from 15%.  
  • Seeker1 (US1)Seeker1 (US1) US1 Posts: 571
    edited 17.04.2018


    2 features that players dont want to use, can be made into a worthwhile feature.  

    My suggestion for the best solution is to revamp the feature by combining the currently unusable features of the cooperative tree and the friendship pennies store at the airport and making it into a useful and worthwhile feature.   

    Every time someone waters your coop tree, there will be 10 friendship pennies to be collected.  The maximum amount the tree can hold is 10 x number of members.  
    You can water other players trees and get 5 friendship pennies yourself for every tree.  Pennies can be traded for feed, fertilizer, seeds, mystery boxes or save up for  high value decorations or upgrades such as 1 minute faster chicken coop or 20% temporary farm exchange rate from 15%.  

    I like this idea of revitalizing the friendship pennies.
     Im down with it...using your suggested format...in a full-sized coop of 75 players, and with regular daily waterings... I'd be able to buy a friendship meadow every month... LOL. :#
    GGS would probably limit it to 1 penny per tree.

    Although, I dont think GGS is in the business of giving away exclusives items so easy. 
    They would probably increase the buy prices or water-down the prizes and omit the highly-sought-after prizes altogether.



  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    thank you for the grove - but i am sure it will be too costly for most and will it require the removal of 2 groves just to put up this one with space left over? will it produce enough to encompass the removal of 2 groves before a 2nd new grove can be earned?

    thank you for the new fert. Will it be a reward in DSF MO's or the market guy that has random things pop up over his head? or the farmworker's bubbles?

    I for one am pleased with the variety of trophies - even though this is horse racing it's not like anyone sees the horses or race so the variety is good imo - besides i like cats :) 

    the feature of going to each farm while maybe a "headache" feature it is most common AND intentional for team/co-operative games so it is not an 'incomplete' feature by any means as @qewt (US1) says

    @dchen1 (US1) has made two excellent posts regarding the tree one-click water -

    i don't feel it will easily be confused or clicked on to spend gold except by maybe a new player - new players might also get in the habit faster than more experienced players and my guess this is the target audience as well as those who will occasionally use it -

    yes i think it will water any unwatered tree regardless if a player is active or not - and that is a good reason for coop participants to ensure they only have active members (sorry to the coops that routinely have inactive players - however you are also the least likely to probably use this feature) - but I imagine if the tree is "full" and can't be watered it is skipped

    if you have watered most it still will only water the unwatered ones I know that some days I have given up if the game crashes several times or lags so much on going to others farms 

    free is better > 5 gold is excessive - since it saves GGS in the long run and if GGS really needs to charge then 1 gold is much more appropriate,

    I am sure the skins are ok and people seem to like them - overall  they are confusing farm to farm too much of a mish-mash since rarely does anyone have a "set" because of the costly nature or the availability of only through a win - they don't add happiness or anything special which I feel they should but in the end the art department has jobs ^^

    overall players  haven't we learned anything yet?? if we even give a few likes to a feature it is usually taken away or  "adjusted" - I suggest we LOVE the heck out of this one-click water in the forum - and then let them remove or "adjust" it after they test it out to see how many actually use it - they are going to do it anyway

    i have to say i am so confused because GGS claims they have been taking rewards away and adding these features based on requests ... NOT sure who is requesting but am pretty sure the requests have been interpreted incorrectly  ... just saying
    Even 1 gold is way too much.  It should be free because the time it takes to visit a farm is as much as the time it takes to use the fishing minigame for much more money.  
    Only if it requires waiting 10 minutes and gives something worth the cost such as 3 super humus, then it would make sense to spend 5 gold.  
    I was not trying to compare the value of receiving $$ for other activities vs the $$ value of watering trees - there is too much in this game where that scenario just doesn't even fit  example donations in the wedding planner are absurd and the "value" of event points is zero unless the WWC is going on and even at that they are not that great - the deco is also mostly going to Greta per players' comments

    the watering is an important aspect to the "co-op" nature of the game however it is time consuming and frustrating (yah! i only crashed once making my rounds today)  and truly is a poor value for the time and effort 

    That being said; GGS is determined we pay for this feature of a one-click water so i don't see "free" any time soon if ever but 5 gold per tree is excessive if it were 5 gold per click ok but that also will never happen so I am trying to be realistic - GGS wants $$ so 1 per is fair for those that choose to use it 

    GGS focus is on new players and new cash not so much on retention of years-long players where the $$ is predictable - ask a bean counter what the avg life of a player is, the $$ amount they will spend during that time and what time-frame they spend the most

    the bottom line is time will tell - how many players (actively or secretively) really choose to pay the price - we are just guinea pigs here with tested (or untested) ideas looking to see what the market will bear - so far it seems to be holding up fairly well - after all the shenanigans at the end of the day who is still here and how many new players have just started
  • However there is a statement in a section of this update announcement that seems possibly inappropriate???
    I had to reread several times.......... like feeding the pigs, stoking your dog or replanting your acres.........
    I somehow find this choice of wordage from a highly educated section of GGS somewhat questionable?
    Now as of course only a common dumb farmer, I may chosen or preferred verbage such a petting your dog
    The chosen verbage in most circles is considered to be highly immoral, often illegal or at least frowned upon
    @UserRart1959 (US1)  I assume you meant to type "stroking" not stoking, as we would prolly all agree stoking should be done to fires & not to dogs. But between stroking & petting, I think you will find the former more common in the UK & the latter in the US & both have the same alternate meaning, so it is really just a case of "different strokes for different folks" hehe

    thank you for the grove - but i am sure it will be too costly for most and will it require the removal of 2 groves just to put up this one with space left over? will it produce enough to encompass the removal of 2 groves before a 2nd new grove can be earned?
    @JustMe (US1) As it is half the size, then no you would not need to remove 2 regular ones, but I am curious why they have chosen not to make it exactly half the size, like they usually do, why is it 10x6 instead of 10x5?? Now we cannot replace 1 reg one with 2 new ones. wachten photo smilie_girl_093-1gif


  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491



    2 features that players dont want to use, can be made into a worthwhile feature.  

    where pray tell is this ? - never saw those rewards 
  • Seeker1 (US1)Seeker1 (US1) US1 Posts: 571
    edited 17.04.2018

    thank you for the grove - but i am sure it will be too costly for most and will it require the removal of 2 groves just to put up this one with space left over? will it produce enough to encompass the removal of 2 groves before a 2nd new grove can be earned?
    @JustMe (US1) As it is half the size, then no you would not need to remove 2 regular ones, but I am curious why they have chosen not to make it exactly half the size, like they usually do, why is it 10x6 instead of 10x5?? Now we cannot replace 1 reg one with 2 new ones. wachten photo smilie_girl_093-1gif


    Yep, its a strange trend they're following now.
     --- Friendship-Fertile Meadows 10x7    vs.  regular Meadow  10x13

     --- Fertile Garden 7x5  vs.  regular Garden  7x9

    Ironically, the name of the game is BIG Farm, yet we're burdened with limited-space issues. :/
  • johanne (AU1)johanne (AU1) AU1 Posts: 167
    to all those whom have a wish list ....

     I repeat quote #   I  think for me its more the principle of it all , they ( ggs ) ask for suggestions and make themselves look like the good guys when they come through .... BUT it seems now days it comes with a price and I think anything we now request will cost us one way or another. # end quote ...

    this is just one example ... be careful
    >:)  >:) what you wish for  >:) 
  • Corvid (GB1)Corvid (GB1) GB1 Posts: 625
    edited 17.04.2018
    Ok, so the Players come up with a good idea: water all co-op trees at once.
        This not only takes a strain off of the server but it gives players more time to farm or chat or whatever.

    However, in GGS's constant greed campaign they have decided to TAX the players for this wonderful idea. 

    As I have said before, this game is no longer free.  You WILL either pay or you will work VERY hard.
    Remember: time is money.  So either way it will cost you or you will get so fed up with the BS that you walk away.

    I for one am so fed up with the lag and watching "loading game assets" each and every time I click on a co-op member's farm to go water their tree.  I think GGS should pay us 5 gold if we use the water all trees feature.

    and in your post is the absolute irony of all this, if the game wasn't such a lag fest (and dont forget the crashes) it wouldnt be such a chore going from farm to farm watering trees! pretty much a tasteless joke all round - in effect they want us to pay gold for the inefficiency of their game, awesome guys, real awesome

    and on the subject of lag, it's still pathetic and tho they improved it after the 'lag crash' - can't recall exactly when it was, when they introduced the new speed tasks on the weekly events? - the game hasn't returned to the 'speed' it was before that period (let's be honest, it's never been great as it is)

    im sure the 'rebalance' is once again going to hit the players in a negative way, regarding the hw and fhw - funny how they have time to mess about with that but the 'automated' system is still useless - it's just all big con, it's hard to believe anything they say anymore regarding the game and processes, cos when it suits them it works, and when it doesn't suit them it doesnt work (but they appreciate our feedback and are looking into it.....)

    if they were doctors, we'd all be dead

    and i only had a cold to start with......
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    edited 17.04.2018
    Hello

    Please give priority to important things first :(
    Automatic loading of DSF boats is more important than this coop tree watering automation and why do u add gold element to everything that u bring :(
    I have not watered any of my coop member trees in past few months :D and i have no plan to do it as well in future. I rarely look at mine too .

     Seaweed things for FF its a good one :)
     but the new olive grove idea doesnt look good  given the fact that we need to buy it with wwc coins  and upgrade done only through gold or wwc coins and not with dollars  :( . I will be better off buying some more tropic and candy moos from them :)
    If they automate DSF Boats it will most likely cost a gold fee. We all need to realize this is the new normal and stop asking for stuff.  All we are doing is giving them ideas of what we would like so they can provide it with a gold charge.   Let's let them focus on all the bugs first.
    Yes ok agree with u .
    Between we asked it for free but i dunno who comes up with the idea of charging gold for everything
    In future i can see even logging in into our farm will charge us gold if it goes this way  :D

    And coop tree is one useless thing in my opinion. 
    I bought collectibles worth crores during yesterday benny bargain offer and it will take minimum 100 years i guess to get that much from coop tree even if collected nonstop. So i just ignore that part completely .

    No more ranting from my side seems useless :( and all good ideas are implemented in the worst ways :( 



    2 features that players dont want to use, can be made into a worthwhile feature.  

    My suggestion for the best solution is to revamp the feature by combining the currently unusable features of the cooperative tree and the friendship pennies store at the airport and making it into a useful and worthwhile feature.   

    Every time someone waters your coop tree, there will be 10 friendship pennies to be collected.  The maximum amount the tree can hold is 10 x number of members.  
    You can water other players trees and get 5 friendship pennies yourself for every tree.  Pennies can be traded for feed, fertilizer, seeds, mystery boxes or save up for  high value decorations or upgrades such as 1 minute faster chicken coop or 20% temporary farm exchange rate from 15%.  
    Wow this is wonderful idea :) 
    I would start watering trees :) if this happens as i am saving up pennies for the airport 
  • Rusty Farmer (AU1)Rusty Farmer (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,705
    edited 17.04.2018
    If you have 3 Olive groves side by side you can replace them 5 of the new ones, for those that haven't done the maths.
  • didah (SKN1)didah (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 1,246
    If you have 3 Olive groves side by side you can replace them 5 of the new ones, for those that haven't done the maths.
    Yep, but whats even more interesting is, how much it will cost in Gold or WWC coins to upgrade these new Olive groves....I guess it won't come cheap. >:)

    So congrats GGS, you did it again, you took players good suggestions, and turned them into more profit for you.

     - This upgrade might suit some (it always does) and I think your market here is the ones having 'blue' houses all over - and thereby is already willing to spend. So good for them!.

    Do you think that your 'new' initiative on this site, with gathering new ideas, listening to players, will grow further after this ? ....
    Somehow I don't think or hope it will - this is yet another insult - paying to water trees...give me a break?!

    But...if you had been a company struggling with bad economy, we might all have send you some extra gold, just to keep on playing and meeting with new or old friends...but that's not the case, is it?

    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-12-07-goodgame-joins-stillfront-group-in-270m-deal 

    Shame on you GGS & Stillfront!

    didah
  • Wow GGS with your latest update its just another ploy on your part to make players buy even more gold so that your pockets are lined with it even more
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    I just keep going to farm as usual. No pressure to use the 'improvement'
  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    Are you going to actually DO the update or just leave the little notification there all day?  

  • Andrew56 (AU1)Andrew56 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 879
    Are you going to actually DO the update or just leave the little notification there all day?  

    Yes, Obviously something has gone wrong (When does it not with GGS!); But most unhelpful, I need to know when the updates' going to come so I can plant/organise my farm for tonight.  -I am afraid  the game will suddenly disappear!!!    :s    :#   >:)
  • Kimmiecat (NL1)Kimmiecat (NL1) NL1 Posts: 995
    edited 17.04.2018
    My gameview for 1 hour and 20 minutes. Update : after 2 hours the exclamation mark has disappeared.
    Finally the update has arrived.



    If this game ever goes belly up........please , let GGS personel  not apply for jobs at the fire departement or ambulance service
    Post edited by Kimmiecat (NL1) on



  • You can discuss the latest update here!


    i think the update is having issues, i have had the shutting down for updates on my screen for over 2 hrs and there is no count down for it i dont want to collect my items until the update is done
  • magy (NL1)magy (NL1) NL1 Posts: 53

    the key to do all the trees ad the same time is great

    but for 5 gold a tree that is crazy its 380 gold to do the trees one time in the coop

    so we don't us it

  • jitu7 (IN1)jitu7 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 1,113
    edited 17.04.2018
    In past, we were saying that change the system (give gold instead of dollars after watering coop trees) and they will make this update now. >:)
    i think i had never watered trees of all my coop members. I hardly water my tree itself. I water other's  tree only when i go to their farm for charming (very few times in that case too). ;);)
    But really I was very very very happy when I was seeing this update news that speed up watering is coming soon and when i saw picture of watering all trees in once I thought that we will got gold for watering but now we have to pay gold just for watering trees. today atleast we are getting few dollars from them but from now we have to pay fee for watering only. I don't think so that anyone will water now. only few guys will water who having a lot of gold. its totally waste for non gold buyers. and even we have to pay gold only for those stupid small amount of collectibles. we can get more than these collectibles in the process of collecting our farms   :p:p:p:p

    and even ggs paying attention on these useless matters. >:)>:)>:)>:)
    there are a lot of other important matter on which you should be priority like:
    1. this is the most foolish thing that is hotfix notification comes usually 30 mins. before but hotfix comes more          than 2 or 3 hours late and even sometimes it doesn't come :s:s 
    2. changes in medal shop -  this is also a very stupidity as when we buy anything from it, the rate got doubled          for next purchase in a week. it makes me mad and many other players too. you can make it same for all the        time or make 10% more but  200% is very very costable. :(
    3. DSF - I don't think so that i should write anything about it because you not making it faster B)B)B) as  you          have already make an announcement about it that you will do it as soon as possible.
    4. Lagging problem on which you have already started working. :):):) 
    5. this break costing thing sometimes affects coop a lot. I know that its very easy to remove break cost but cant donate everyday as it take time and cant remember too. so make it less.
    6. changing rewards again of chwe and cc mainly.

    There are many more things that should make in the game and on which i can write but i dont have enough time to write all those infinity things. ;););)B)o:)

    and tell one more thing before making announcement of update that when you going to bring those updates :p:p
    Post edited by jitu7 (IN1) on
  • @jitu7 (IN1) Watering trees by going to each members farm will still be FREE. Only if you choose Water at once will it cost gold.
  • jitu7 (IN1)jitu7 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 1,113
    @jitu7 (IN1) Watering trees by going to each members farm will still be FREE. Only if you choose Water at once will it cost gold.
    ok but still ggs should make it like water tree and het gold :p:p:p
  • Michiru (GB1)Michiru (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,239
    edited 17.04.2018
     

    Love the new decorations!!! If they are only for HWE top positions though... i shall just jealously ogle from a distance. :D Here's to hoping that they'll turn up in santa's workshop too! 
  • Debi1214 (US1)Debi1214 (US1) US1 Posts: 35
    Wait, if I water my coops trees I have to pay five gold???

    This is crazy!

    Yea this is crazy! I have much better things to do with gold then water a tree with it! LOL.. btw, did the update even happen? I'm not seeing it, if it did. 
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I am glad to see the Seaweed Liquid Fertilizer.  I started requesting that and seaweed honeydew, nearly four years ago.  This is long overdue and a "plus".

    On the Olive Orchard, I am hopeful, but skeptical.  I will reserve judgment until I see the upgrade pricing for the levels.

    The button to "water all trees" is terrible.  No one will use it, except by accident.  It is an attempt by GGS to monetize people's mistakes.  I find that particularly despicable, particularly evil.




    And no mention of the bad rewards that were changed (because that was all intentional).


    And I expect the Fish HW to be a disaster.  Adding bonus points to it, will not work.  It will go from being the most unfair event in the game, to being even more unfair.
  • Rusty Farmer (AU1)Rusty Farmer (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,705
    edited 17.04.2018
    The thing with gold is they tend to overprice things. Maybe just 1 gold might be acceptable.
    There is talk of having automatic harvesting in a future update. No doubt this will have the same kind of gold costing.
  • rie22 (US1)rie22 (US1) US1 Posts: 361
    We have been asking for the water all option for years. I will not pay for that option, it will just be another wasteful gold option in the game.  i won't even hit the tree and accidentally spend gold because i don't go there to start watering trees anyway.  Such a shame GGS that you twist what we ask for into something you can make more money off of us from. 
  • LuraBelle (US1)LuraBelle (US1) US1 Posts: 309
    ok I am still trying to get my cats on the farm and 5 gold to water trees give me a break
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