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Update Mar 26th- New Rewards (Extended Downtime - Completed March 21st) - Discussion

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  • durbar (IN1)durbar (IN1) IN1 Posts: 138
    GGS is making one big mistake, and putting its business motive itself at stake.

    (a) It is the non-buyers who compel buyers to buy gold. The more pressure non-buyers can put on buyers, more gold they will buy. So GGS will be financially benefited by awarding more free gold to the hard-working players. 

    (b) Let us think the reverse situation. If there is a crunch of gold, will players buy more gold? The answer is 'NO'. Active non-buyers are committed. They can never be made to buy by any pressure. If they feel they are not getting incentives for their hard work, they will just stop playing, or shift to some other games. 

    Conclusion and moral: 1. Only buyers will buy, non-buyers will never buy whatever pressure you put on them.
    2. But non-buyer can push buyers to buy more if they have enough resources and bargaining capacity.

    If future changes don't cater to this simple logic, those will be just changes for change's sake. They will not lead nobody nowhere.
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    while i have used successfully and happily 2x this extra build slot it actually inhibits building as a whole except for maybe the lower lvls - i consider myself lower mid  at lvl 212 and playing for 1.4 years.

    for those needing or wanting to save for steve then requires all building be halted until steve comes and that includes all decos which no most have that ridiculous re-build time so it is not just a matter of moving things around on the farm - it is getting hard to have a deco that is not super low lvl that has no re-build time and even the very low HP decos usually have a rebuild time now. - the idea behind the rebuild time is so outdated and was quickly  made moot the fact it still exists show continued poor judgment

    GGs often claims we are building our farms too fast and so they take away items we already have yet other game play completely pushes that we are not building fast enough 

    definitely need a yes/no here and it should not auto default to the extra slot  - doesn't make it extra now does it? it makes it "1st"no matter what
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 06.04.2018

    This second building slot is the most useless new feature I have seen in quite some time, at least in its current form

    I wonder why all the changes in the event rewards, and this camouflage of something great to look forward to, the construction tokens, when in reality we can't keep the tokens until we really need them, even tho they have taken  central stage in the pools of  rewards No more gold items folks !!! The tokens are what you get instead 

    The 50 token limit has to be removed, so that we can use the two slots when the architect arrives or when there is a temporary farm....

    ohh no wait, but then if we have the 2nd building slot when the architect is here we don't skip construction with gold anymore do we ? 

    you gave us a resemblance of a second building slot without actually giving it to us .... so clever !

     
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  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    The system removed all valuable rewards....how convenient!
    CM_Hunter said:
    Hi All,

    As explained the new system is automatic. It didn't cost us anything (except time and work) to create and there was no specific demand to remove certain rewards. When we were forwarded the feedback about the rewards we took them to the person responsible for the system who was able to look into it and has already repaired some of the issues you have reported. There was no specific request to remove valuable items (some of which will likely be returning in future CCs) and the system still has some quirks that need resolving. Our guys are working hard to get it sorted as this system saves the team many, many hours of work once the system is working as we intended. As mentioned, it currently is not working as intended and we are looking at what we can do to make improvements. Keep passing your feedback about the rewards in events and we can keep passing it to the team and informing the new system, then we can focus on other topics that are important to you once it is working better.

    Thanks all!
    Then why is EVERY valuable reward gone? It seems a bit convenient that the only rewards that went missing were seaweed and gold related, basically every reward that players are after when we play the CC and Hardworker silo events. I understand that this is a business and the goal here is to make money but making events more difficult (the bonus points features and hardwork points requirements) and then taking away the only things worth playing for makes no sense....if anything there should be even more purple and gold rewards to motivate players to do better.
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    The system removed all valuable rewards....how convenient!
    CM_Hunter said:
    Hi All,

    As explained the new system is automatic. It didn't cost us anything (except time and work) to create and there was no specific demand to remove certain rewards. When we were forwarded the feedback about the rewards we took them to the person responsible for the system who was able to look into it and has already repaired some of the issues you have reported. There was no specific request to remove valuable items (some of which will likely be returning in future CCs) and the system still has some quirks that need resolving. Our guys are working hard to get it sorted as this system saves the team many, many hours of work once the system is working as we intended. As mentioned, it currently is not working as intended and we are looking at what we can do to make improvements. Keep passing your feedback about the rewards in events and we can keep passing it to the team and informing the new system, then we can focus on other topics that are important to you once it is working better.

    Thanks all!
    Then why is EVERY valuable reward gone? It seems a bit convenient that the only rewards that went missing were seaweed and gold related, basically every reward that players are after when we play the CC and Hardworker silo events. I understand that this is a business and the goal here is to make money but making events more difficult (the bonus points features and hardwork points requirements) and then taking away the only things worth playing for makes no sense....if anything there should be even more purple and gold rewards to motivate players to do better.
    Nailed it only missing thoes rewards that are useful to the players as @CM_Hunter says the team is working hard to terrified the players so give them some feed back please and help them
    Otherwise u wouldn't get much surprises from the team they need to work hard please please make sure u have some decent ideas 
  • didah (SKN1)didah (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 1,246
    -CM_Hunter said:
    Hi All,
    As explained the new system is automatic. It didn't cost us anything (except time and work) to create and there was no specific demand to remove certain rewards

    Most likely I just don't understand the last part of the sentence, was there a demand to decrease prizevalue or was there not?

    -When we were forwarded the feedback about the rewards we took them to the person responsible for the system who was able to look into it and has already repaired some of the issues you have reported

    Oh, that I'm glad to hear - what exactly did we report as urgent, that has been fixed?

    I know you have been getting feedback for months, about removing the items that are for no use once the Global CC is over,..and many other items we can't use after certain events ends, still they are part of the prizes...
    Funny how those prizes wasn't the prizes moving off the list, as the very first thing.

     Instead you added constructionpoints, which already has caused several threads already.

    -There was no specific request to remove valuable items (some of which will likely be returning in future CCs) 
    Again, what does it even mean, and what's the 'likely' about return of prizes?

    If there wasn't a request, and you don't have a 'cut prizes to the bone' demand...then why haven't we seen some action already, why are we needed to have this endless discussions, every time you make a new mess?
     - I'm pretty sure everybody could have lived with an update, if that was it took?
    Or what does it mean ?

    -Our guys are working hard to get it sorted as this system saves the team many, many hours of work once the system is working as we intended.

    I will certainly hope they are, but that's the about same answer we get whenever we ask you to clarify what's going on.
    Have you any idea of what Coop damage and gameplay damage you have done over the last 6 months, because you were trying this and that, and that and this again. (Will say, Im positive that I didn't see the Wedding Event listed on Aprils calandar...but I also noted our Mod writing in bold that drastic changes could happen...fool me if the Wedding Event isn't sneaked in one of these next days, when they have adjusted droprates and prizes)

    -As mentioned, it currently is not working as intended and we are looking at what we can do to make improvements.
    .
    Right, what needs to be done?

    Keep passing your feedback about the rewards in events and we can keep passing it to the team and informing the new system,

    No, no - not again, don't go there - you have gathered ALL the information you could possibly wish for...

    ...then we can focus on other topics that are important to you once it is working better.

    Oh....I don't recommend that you put your focus elsewhere than on this matter. I'm pretty sure I talk for many, when saying this is what fill our thoughts a lot these days!

    didah



  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    -CM_Hunter said:
    Hi All,
    As explained the new system is automatic. It didn't cost us anything (except time and work) to create and there was no specific demand to remove certain rewards

    Most likely I just don't understand the last part of the sentence, was there a demand to decrease prizevalue or was there not?

    -When we were forwarded the feedback about the rewards we took them to the person responsible for the system who was able to look into it and has already repaired some of the issues you have reported

    Oh, that I'm glad to hear - what exactly did we report as urgent, that has been fixed?

    I know you have been getting feedback for months, about removing the items that are for no use once the Global CC is over,..and many other items we can't use after certain events ends, still they are part of the prizes...
    Funny how those prizes wasn't the prizes moving off the list, as the very first thing.

     Instead you added constructionpoints, which already has caused several threads already.

    -There was no specific request to remove valuable items (some of which will likely be returning in future CCs) 
    Again, what does it even mean, and what's the 'likely' about return of prizes?

    If there wasn't a request, and you don't have a 'cut prizes to the bone' demand...then why haven't we seen some action already, why are we needed to have this endless discussions, every time you make a new mess?
     - I'm pretty sure everybody could have lived with an update, if that was it took?
    Or what does it mean ?

    -Our guys are working hard to get it sorted as this system saves the team many, many hours of work once the system is working as we intended.

    I will certainly hope they are, but that's the about same answer we get whenever we ask you to clarify what's going on.
    Have you any idea of what Coop damage and gameplay damage you have done over the last 6 months, because you were trying this and that, and that and this again. (Will say, Im positive that I didn't see the Wedding Event listed on Aprils calandar...but I also noted our Mod writing in bold that drastic changes could happen...fool me if the Wedding Event isn't sneaked in one of these next days, when they have adjusted droprates and prizes)

    -As mentioned, it currently is not working as intended and we are looking at what we can do to make improvements.
    .
    Right, what needs to be done?

    Keep passing your feedback about the rewards in events and we can keep passing it to the team and informing the new system,

    No, no - not again, don't go there - you have gathered ALL the information you could possibly wish for...

    ...then we can focus on other topics that are important to you once it is working better.

    Oh....I don't recommend that you put your focus elsewhere than on this matter. I'm pretty sure I talk for many, when saying this is what fill our thoughts a lot these days!

    didah



    U cried that much for.
    U didn't need to explain need more ideas not exlaination (@CM_Hunter)
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
    no comment
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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    edited 06.04.2018
    I waited a day or two to reply after this announcement from GGS, because I did not want to seem angry or thoughtless.  But I was struck by how bad it was.  It seems like a made up excuse for what happened.  I think that it is now time to just assume, going forward, that they are not truthful with us and do not plan to be.  And this makes me sad.  But the current list of rewards is not a random list at all.  That is quite obvious.  Explaining it away, as computer generated, is simply not true.  I like to think that there is a rapport between us and them, but statements like this by them, violate that.

    It is simple.  We need to be able to depend on GGS to tell us the truth, the whole truth.  And currently, that is not happening.
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
    no comment
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  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 546
    edited 06.04.2018
     It's not the first game what GoodGame studios of the hand is doing. The most beautiful farm game what I played, Farmer, is also stopped. I wouldn't be surprised if they also do that with Big Farm. {Advertising on tv for Big Farm Mobile Harvest)
    They ask for ideas, but that there are already enough.
    We want now  good rewards for all the work for the CC and CHWE where we need.
    And no excuses that the system is still not well put together, here are also people behind and they can change the system

    reward  CC 25 fly, sorry 35
    Afbeeldingsresultaat voor gif pictures of flies
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    I think its safe to say most people are sick of the lies, the LOL's in response to the announcement is now up to 42 and rising. If/when this game does shut down the next game I play will not be a GGS one. The problem here is GGS are acting like their customers are children when in fact the majority are well over 18. We know there's no Santa and Easter bunny (well some of us do.....sorry to those that just found out lol) and every move made is a deliberate ploy by GGS to milk as much money out of us as possible.....VERY few of these moves were accidental.
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    I think its safe to say most people are sick of the lies, the LOL's in response to the announcement is now up to 42 and rising. If/when this game does shut down the next game I play will not be a GGS one. The problem here is GGS are acting like their customers are children when in fact the majority are well over 18. We know there's no Santa and Easter bunny (well some of us do.....sorry to those that just found out lol) and every move made is a deliberate ploy by GGS to milk as much money out of us as possible.....VERY few of these moves were accidental.
    42 LOLs because players know the excuse for the sudden removal of decent prizes is an absolute joke.  
    Proof positive reasoning:
    1. ALL good prizes removed.
    2. Same exact prizes 2 CCs in a row ... the chances of a "automated random system" producing the exact same rewards twice in a row would be absolutely impossible.  
    3. The NEW random system was not aforementioned.
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    The auto system said no speed event this time so we arnt gonna blame the innocent ggs
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    the announcement /slash/ explanation doesn't pass the smell test 


  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
    no comment
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  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473
    Every time, they put up new things, its all bad at first. Its a fact.

    Slowly it improves, so why not give it time? For how long hasnt things rewards things been going on? Relax and play. Or relax and dont play. Either way I dont care, but cant we just for a day try to do a little less complating about everything?

    I can already now see that there will be a 100 pages long complaining about the new vulocano farm, just because its not working as promised. Chill.

    Noone want to read in forum, if it is only complaining.

    If we turn it around, and we all were complaining about each other - would that be any better?

    Now, with this said.

    Personally I dont care what prices we get or dont get. I have as of now 44.444 gold. It would take me YEARS to spend that, yes, YEARS. I seldom spend any gold. The decos I sell to Greta anyway, And I do my farming in my own way,, as I am sure, each and everyone of u guys also are doing. I dont think that anyone in my coop have given the rewards much thought or talk anyway.

    Does that mean that we dont care about the game? No, ofcourse not. It just means that the rewards doesnt mean that much to any of us. We are getting what we are getting. Peiod. End of story.

    But we are compitive. Dont get me wrong there, we do help each other. We want to do the best as we can. So tell me again why the rewards is a matter of life and death? Please anyone, remind me.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720


    Does that mean that we dont care about the game? No, ofcourse not. It just means that the rewards doesnt mean that much to any of us. We are getting what we are getting. Peiod. End of story.

    But we are compitive. Dont get me wrong there, we do help each other. We want to do the best as we can. So tell me again why the rewards is a matter of life and death? Please anyone, remind me.

    A simple explanation........you are working in an office and earn 50,000 dollars a year. Your boss comes in and gives you twice as much work but drops your wage back to 30,000 dollars a year, would you be fine with that?

    This game is no longer as relaxing or as fun as it used to be when we all started playing it. CC's on nearly every week now, hardworker events lined up one after another and the new speedy versions of the weekly events asking for unreasonable amounts of produce and offering measly rewards in return. For those of us that are stuck playing these events every week (mainly coop leaders/deputies) it is no longer a game, it feels like a chore and giving us crap rewards in return is a slap in the face, an insult etc etc.

    Would anyone else prefer this game go back to what it was about 3 years ago? No CC's, no competitiveness, just farming? If it goes back to that I wouldn't care about the rewards but unfortunately we don;t have that luxury because GGS have chosen a direction of competitive farming warfare, soon they will give us bazookas so we can destroy other players farms  :p
  • CrazyBigfarm55 (US1)CrazyBigfarm55 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,226
    I could not have said it any better myself @gizmo22 (AU1).

    I would love for the game to go back to how it was before, but I know they will never do that. I would however be willing to go back to when the CC was once every quarter. That was better than 3 CCs a month, we are all getting burnt out.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    Every time, they put up new things, its all bad at first. Its a fact.

    Slowly it improves, so why not give it time?


    No it doesn't improve, not once, it anything it gets worse, but over time we stop complaining because, let's face it, this forum is a huge waste of time

     
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    In some ways I do feel the forum is a waste of time because I feel the developers do not see or feel the passion behind the posts, it is simply a moderator passing on the info.  

    Take for instance the recent low value CC and CHWE rewards.
    We say: We are really upset/disappointed, the prizes are horrible and we also give an explanation of frequency, effort, and necessary resources needed in comparison to the rewards in a long drawn out passionate, explanatory post.  

    Mod relays: Players are unhappy with the new rewards for the CCs and CHWEs.

    GGS thinks and replies: They are unhappy, they will get over it .... roll out another CC. 
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
    no comment
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  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473


    Does that mean that we dont care about the game? No, ofcourse not. It just means that the rewards doesnt mean that much to any of us. We are getting what we are getting. Peiod. End of story.

    But we are compitive. Dont get me wrong there, we do help each other. We want to do the best as we can. So tell me again why the rewards is a matter of life and death? Please anyone, remind me.

    A simple explanation........you are working in an office and earn 50,000 dollars a year. Your boss comes in and gives you twice as much work but drops your wage back to 30,000 dollars a year, would you be fine with that?

    This game is no longer as relaxing or as fun as it used to be when we all started playing it. CC's on nearly every week now, hardworker events lined up one after another and the new speedy versions of the weekly events asking for unreasonable amounts of produce and offering measly rewards in return. For those of us that are stuck playing these events every week (mainly coop leaders/deputies) it is no longer a game, it feels like a chore and giving us crap rewards in return is a slap in the face, an insult etc etc.

    Would anyone else prefer this game go back to what it was about 3 years ago? No CC's, no competitiveness, just farming? If it goes back to that I wouldn't care about the rewards but unfortunately we don;t have that luxury because GGS have chosen a direction of competitive farming warfare, soon they will give us bazookas so we can destroy other players farms  :p
    And let me make myself clear: I am one of those as u mention. I started out as coop leader, then got member in another coop, now I am a deputy, and the ONLY goal as we have in the CC's is to stay where we are. Its very simple.

    And bacially the game doesnt do it more than u do it to.

    Apart from the missing cat charms, (that seems to be resloved by now), when is the last time u have seen me complaining over and over about the same thing?
  • TMKC (IN1)TMKC (IN1) IN1 Posts: 939
    Still waiting for improved rewards......
  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 546
    edited 08.04.2018
    And let me make myself clear: I am one of those as u mention. I started out as coop leader, then got member in another coop, now I am a deputy, and the ONLY goal as we have in the CC's is to stay where we are. Its very simple.

    And bacially the game doesnt do it more than u do it to.

    Apart from the missing cat charms, (that seems to be resloved by now), when is the last time u have seen me complaining over and over about the same thing?
      If  you  are bored , you should not read it, it's not required.. I can't cheer when I get 35 flies while I have more than 50,000 in stock. The rewards are not worth it to do your best, but  I and others do it for the coop. 
  • VAM (US1)VAM (US1) US1 Posts: 61
    I really like the additional construction slot.  I think for higher level players, it would be far more functional if it allowed you to do architect-level upgrades without the architect.  Since it is a special building slot and you have to earn the tokens, I think it would be cool if you could use it to skip the long wait for the architect to visit your farm and risk losing the tokens you earned.  Most of us are unable to upgrade much on our farms without the architect these days, so this would be a big help and an incentive to earn those tokens.  Thanks!!

  • mia111 (GB1)mia111 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 741
    I'm glad to see that GGS has not removed the 2 GML at 1.2mill points from the HWE. Yet they have changed the rewards since they include in the pool the new construction tokens. There is also seaweed and super items so I'm glad to see that the rewards are decent. I was afraid the HWE HW rewards were going to be ruined also. So thank you for not destroying yet one more event (thought careful whenever you change it to the +1 thing). I do not know if they were set manually or with the new system, but I hope we can expect the other events to have decent rewards once again. Thanks.
  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473
    And let me make myself clear: I am one of those as u mention. I started out as coop leader, then got member in another coop, now I am a deputy, and the ONLY goal as we have in the CC's is to stay where we are. Its very simple.

    And bacially the game doesnt do it more than u do it to.

    Apart from the missing cat charms, (that seems to be resloved by now), when is the last time u have seen me complaining over and over about the same thing?
      If  you  are bored , you should not read it, it's not required.. I can't cheer when I get 35 flies while I have more than 50,000 in stock. The rewards are not worth it to do your best, but  I and others do it for the coop. 
    And from where do I say that I am bored?
  • Yes, see? Told ya, all we had to do is put pressure on them, and they caved. We now have half decent rewards, and now they might get better.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 09.04.2018
    I'm glad to see that GGS has not removed the 2 GML at 1.2mill points from the HWE. Yet they have changed the rewards since they include in the pool the new construction tokens. There is also seaweed and super items so I'm glad to see that the rewards are decent......... 


    They haven't had the time yet, smaller team, wait until they change the format and add the boosters, so you spend and get nothing in return as with all other events


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