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  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    Keep in mind that as long as an option to buy premium products, most people simply to buy it, rather than get it in hard way.
    Surya54 @ WWW 1

    Keep it up!
  • Dear Mods, my coop ended in rank 8 in CHWE but didn't get it's rewards And that is the second time happening. We need answers please

    DREAM LAND COOP (INT1)


  • Joybells (US1)Joybells (US1) US1 Posts: 34
    To answer AngelinaCC (USA 1)

    As I worked my farm, I sold excess supplies because my barn was full.  I did not sell extra, and I did not notice at the time that they gave me more money than was intended.  After having been banned for "exploiting the game", I was allowed to return.  The only money missing from my account was the "extra" that I was given in error.  The remainder of my money was there.  I believe, if I have read the forum correctly, that I received my money back because I did not spend the extra money given to me.  They were clear that there would not be any compensation for the time missed because of the ban, so no. there was no compensation.  
  • To answer AngelinaCC (USA 1)

    As I worked my farm, I sold excess supplies because my barn was full.  I did not sell extra, and I did not notice at the time that they gave me more money than was intended.  After having been banned for "exploiting the game", I was allowed to return.  The only money missing from my account was the "extra" that I was given in error.  The remainder of my money was there.  I believe, if I have read the forum correctly, that I received my money back because I did not spend the extra money given to me.  They were clear that there would not be any compensation for the time missed because of the ban, so no. there was no compensation.  
    Thank you for responding Joybells.  I'm glad your experience wasn't as bad as some, and that you didn't lose anything other than the extra money you received in error and some time on the game.  this makes me feel a little better.   
    CC
  • hi everyone. I seem to have troubles with the Adventurer's boat. It costs a lot to fix it twice a day, but we do our best and most of the time we fix all three sections. Never less than two. However in the past couple of days, the ship returns with only one item in the smallest  (3 cells) of the personal boxes and 2 items in the general box.  Could you please have a look at the technical side of this game event?

    I would also appreciate if someone could tell me where to address my questions about the horse tournaments.  In the last 4 of them I finish in the Platinum league but end up with staff from the Gold one. Thanks 
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,554
    I also would like to know when it will be safe to buy land again.  I have postponed a purchase until everything is straightened out.
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    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

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  • For those of you stating the farm dollars are "fake money," "not real," etc.:  You are incorrect.  Farm dollars are "in-game" money and they have a real-world value, a value that can be converted to non-cyber currencies, such as US dollars, Euros, etc.

    Farm dollars are just another representation and accounting of "real" money.  Very simple example:  If I spend US$10.00 to buy 10 gold, then use that gold to buy 10 farm dollars, those farm dollars have a real-world value of US$1.00 each.

    "But I don't buy gold, I just harvest and sell and get my farm dollars for free."  In-game currencies are never free.  Your time has value.  Very simple example:  You earn US$10.00 per hour working.  In game, it takes you one hour to earn 10 farm dollars harvesting and selling crops.  Those farm dollars are, therefore, worth US$1.00 each in the value of your time. (NB: This is why bots are banned in most games, because they destroy the time value of the game's currency, and by extension, the real-world value of the game's currency.)

    If you have a bug where suddenly, people can acquire hundreds of millions, even billions, of farm dollars for essentially nothing, then not only have you decimated the real world currency value of those farm dollars, but also destroyed the time value of those dollars. This will collapse the economy of the game in short order, which will then extend to collapsing the real-world value of that game.

    Once a game's economy ceases to have a real-world value, it ceases to be viable.

    THIS is why GGS absolutely had to take action, whether you agree with the actions or not, they could not leave the situation the way it was.  This bug and the exploitation of it was absolutely game breaking.  

    It's basic economics, and there's tons of treatises and stuff out there on game theory and its application to game economies and how they interplay with "real world" economies. It's really quite fascinating stuff.  

    thanks for this explanation!
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,554
    I chanced my arm and bought land today, so far I haven't been banned ....  ;)
    That's good to hear.  Several have suggested I hold off as the GGS staff is off through Christmas. I may do it anyway as now would be a good time to clear the land -- don't think Steve will be popping up over Christmas! :)
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    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,413
    edited 23.12.2017
    Hello GGS.  I would like to know if it is safe to sell items today?  If not can you please send us a list of the items we should not sell.

    Thanks
    I just found out, GGS can't tell you, because they are gone on Christmas Holiday and won't be back until 2018.  There is no one minding the store....The broken game is on auto-pilot and probably heading for crash landing!  Geeeezzzz....Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! May your barns be bulging, I know mine are!


    Photo taken by FarmerCli  (Front Porch View of Elk grazing in pasture) 2015

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,554
    edited 26.12.2017
    Hello GGS.  I would like to know if it is safe to sell items today?  If not can you please send us a list of the items we should not sell.

    Thanks
    I just found out, GGS can't tell you, because they are gone on Christmas Holiday and won't be back until 2018.  There is no one minding the store....The broken game is on auto-pilot and probably heading for crash landing!  Geeeezzzz....Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! May your barns be bulging, I know mine are!
    I threw caution to the wind and bought land.  Figured Steve wouldn't be showing up so I could go ahead and clear it without tying up a building slot.  
    Post edited by artful (US1) on
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    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • Joybells (US1)Joybells (US1) US1 Posts: 34
    Well, unless we are going to nothing during the Christmas holiday, we will have to chance selling items as well.  
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
     :o I want some Money should I sold the items of the shop and bakery?? :|
  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 546
    edited 23.12.2017
    For those of you stating the farm dollars are "fake money," "not real," etc.:  You are incorrect.  Farm dollars are "in-game" money and they have a real-world value, a value that can be converted to non-cyber currencies, such as US dollars, Euros, etc.

    Farm dollars are just another representation and accounting of "real" money.  Very simple example:  If I spend US$10.00 to buy 10 gold, then use that gold to buy 10 farm dollars, those farm dollars have a real-world value of US$1.00 each.

    "But I don't buy gold, I just harvest and sell and get my farm dollars for free."  In-game currencies are never free.  Your time has value.  Very simple example:  You earn US$10.00 per hour working.  In game, it takes you one hour to earn 10 farm dollars harvesting and selling crops.  Those farm dollars are, therefore, worth US$1.00 each in the value of your time. (NB: This is why bots are banned in most games, because they destroy the time value of the game's currency, and by extension, the real-world value of the game's currency.)

    If you have a bug where suddenly, people can acquire hundreds of millions, even billions, of farm dollars for essentially nothing, then not only have you decimated the real world currency value of those farm dollars, but also destroyed the time value of those dollars. This will collapse the economy of the game in short order, which will then extend to collapsing the real-world value of that game.

    Once a game's economy ceases to have a real-world value, it ceases to be viable.

    THIS is why GGS absolutely had to take action, whether you agree with the actions or not, they could not leave the situation the way it was.  This bug and the exploitation of it was absolutely game breaking.  

    It's basic economics, and there's tons of treatises and stuff out there on game theory and its application to game economies and how they interplay with "real world" economies. It's really quite fascinating stuff.  

    thanks for this explanation!
    Going to try to reply to all those who quoted me without re copying everything.

    1.  I'm sorry but this is JUST a game.  Game money earned in the game and spent in the game is NOT real money.   I'm sorry for everyone who thinks it is, it's not.   GOLD is…. but the issue wasn't about gold.  Just farm money.  Tell me it's real?  I'll say just try to make a withdraw and bring it to your bank.   Be laughed right out the door you would.  This is a game and game money is just a number in the game.   
    Now yes, you should not have been given a winfall for nothing.  But that was a mistake BY THE GAME DEVELOPERS not the players who got and spent money. How many times has the game TAKEN money with broken this that or what evers?  But THAT'S ok.  Can't ban them can we?
    I for one, (and I know a few other said the same thing) wouldn't have even noticed.   I play three big farms, and most times I get on here I click to harvest everything, wait for the flying junk to settle, replant, reset, go fill any contracts I can, send the boat on it's way, train and race the horses, lastly, IF I can afford an upgrade or buy some new something I do.    All without even paying any attention to what paid me what.
    I hear this glitch was to do with the flower farm goods.  Well I normally keep full barns and just click sell every time I harvest honey cream.   I swear I would not notice if a big amount landed in my account.  It's so rare I have enough to buy anything I don't often look. 

    2.  Competitions.   Again… I HATE how this game has gone.  I do run my own coop on the UK server and after the first broken round of the Christmas thing, I sent my whole coop a note asking if we should all just ignore these high pressure events and got an overwhelming YES!   So that's what we do there.  Easy does it.  No pressure on these gotta win things.  And I gave up long ago on the whole coop village.  Told them all the same.  If they want to feed it fine.  If anyone asks me for help I will but so far that hasn't come up. That's just a resource drain for nothing.

    now I am a member in two really big coops who do try with these.   One person keep asking me to donate this that and the other for the Christmas thing.  I have tried to explain what a lost cause this is and no.  I'm out.
    I get back how well she is doing and blah blah… to which I say "Have you LOOKED in the forums?  NO ONE has anything good to say about this event.  Even after it came back, numbers are so insane… times adjusted in mid stream, and yet for some reason I will never comprehend, people are still playing it.   
    WHY?    Is your need to "win" so great you can't see your feeding a beast by participating in something that is 
    A.   Bad idea, didn't work last year and they knew it.
    B.   BROKEN.  Stopped because it was… restarted, times adjusted in mid stream… BROKEN.
    C.   Puts pressure on coop leaders to push, boot, nag players….  puts pressure on people who just want a relaxing past time not a full time job.    WHY?

    3.  now this latest thing with banning people for a mistake…. and the only mistake the PLAYERS made was not catching the mistake IN THE GAME that gave them extra money.

    And yes, I know some did, some actually informed GG.    Some probably saw it and took advantage.
    Well to that I say how would anyone know who saw it and took advantage vs didn't even notice at all?

    Either way, kicking out players, some of them have been here for YEARS.  Is just plain STUPID.
    And what about the "economics of the game" now?   Those players who are IN TEAMS who are all working towards these pushy competitions?  The whole team gets punished on top of the few who got banned.

    Seems GG did an about face on the banning and restored players. 
    Yea well…. too little too late I'm sure.   Those are your customers here.  Treated like disposable trash.
    Bad bad… oh so bad an idea.    SO many better ways this could have been handled.
    Starting with FIX THE BUG THAT CAUSED THIS WHOLE MESS FIRST!  Then calmly and rationally try to figure out who got what and how to adjust things accordingly.



    Finally, I just can't bring myself to play.  Actually kind of afraid to now since I do click through, harvest, sell off extra and never even look at amounts.  Might be me getting banned because of a game glitch.


    I think I'll go at least check in with my coops, send them all a note that I'm taking the rest of this holiday season off.  The two real competitive ones may boot me if they so choose.  If GG ever gets their act together here, I can always rejoin, or just join a smaller, less competitive one.  


    Found TONS of great games on line yesterday.  One I actually bought years ago and lost it on an old dead computer.  Had to find it again.  Got it running as we speak.  I know one thing, in my game shopping, ANYTHING that says GoodGame on it, got ignored.  
    Artmaker you are right.

      It is never good to talk by GGS for me. It is an insult. You should make more than 5000 SOAP in week 3, in the 4th week more than 6000 and you shed is full and sells them, every half hour and you will be blocked. I've never been so angry and still. There you play 8 years at GGS, first 3 years  Farmer and now 5 years Big Farm and then an excuse and nothing else. I didn't notice that I was at the more than 500 million that I had and still have, really have benefited from this bug and I have not, otherwise I have the 600 million had with every half hour soaps. They do but with you what they want. It is that I am in a coop is where there are a lot of people sitting that I already knew at Farmer, otherwise I went away 
     REALLY AN INSULT.

                                

                                    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR
    Post edited by Maggiltilda (NL1) on
  • Sam-chan (US1)Sam-chan (US1) US1 Posts: 783
    I chanced my arm and bought land today, so far I haven't been banned ....  ;)
    That's good to hear.  Several have suggested I hold off as the GGS staff is off through Christmas. I may do it anyway as now would be a good time to clear the land -- don't think Steve will be popping up over Christmas! :w





    too bad!  here he is !
    Sam-chan @ fr 1
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,554
    edited 26.12.2017
    I chanced my arm and bought land today, so far I haven't been banned ....  ;)
    That's good to hear.  Several have suggested I hold off as the GGS staff is off through Christmas. I may do it anyway as now would be a good time to clear the land -- don't think Steve will be popping up over Christmas! :w





    too bad!  here he is !
    I know!!! LOL!!!  However, my land clearing had finished so I am able to use him before he disappears again! Very happy camper. :)
    Post edited by artful (US1) on
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    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,554
    I am very disappointed in the Christmas Preparations event and have already broached the idea of NOT doing this event next year. Particularly bad are three things: 1) The way that players are given such hard tasks to complete so that they can't help others without spending gold to speed up the ridiculously slow requests. (one 30 level player was given muffins, which they could not have possibly gotten until they bought a bakery at level 31. Other higher level players were given SLOW producing products that necessitated gold or seaweed so they could help others) 2) the disadvantage of having inactive players, forcing leaders to decide between Christmas good-will or what is good for the coop. Really, you be scrooge, I did not like being in that position. 3) the ban on new player being accepted to a coop without penalizing the other members. In case you have not noticed, players come and go. For every 5 players, you get 1 or 2 that are going to stay with the game and be a consistent player. We need a constant influx of new players to grow. All in all, this event is a NO WIN for the coop, even though it offers a cute reward. 
    You are right on all counts. We skipped it as a group.  No one got booted. New members were accepted.  We are enjoying each other and a stress-free holiday.  I highly recommend it.

    I don't care how much they change it, or if they change it, next year.  We probably will not be participating.
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    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • Sam-chan (US1)Sam-chan (US1) US1 Posts: 783
    edited 24.12.2017
    the fact is they dont care
    even if only 1% of the coops take part in the event they will put it again

    and have you ever thougt about the twins gifts to help the membres ?


    use the chat to comunicate ^^
    Post edited by Sam-chan (US1) on
    Sam-chan @ fr 1
  • Dear Mods, my coop ended in rank 8 in CHWE but didn't get it's rewards And that is the second time happening. We need answers please
    @Ανθη Κυπριανου (INT1) There was not enough time before the team left for the Holidays, for them to sort out the CHWE, but they are aware of it & have apologised & said it will be fixed in the new year.


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    "I seek not to know the answers, but to understand the questions!" - Caine

  • DemonR (GB1)DemonR (GB1) GB1 Posts: 43
    The Advent Calendar has failed to deliver the Snowman decoration. Now it's trying to sell me a level 1 decoration for 1 gold. Sigh....

  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    The Advent Calendar has failed to deliver the Snowman decoration. Now it's trying to sell me a level 1 decoration for 1 gold. Sigh....
    For me as well
    this auto pilot game isn't doing something t only player can get something like $ and after that ban
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,554
    edited 24.12.2017
    No snowman deco or today's mailbox deco --- nothing, nada, zip.

    Update:  Got Santa's Postbox -- thank you!
    Post edited by artful (US1) on
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    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    @artful (US1) that's the beauty dear  of the auto pilot game
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