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  • farmgirlmimi43 (US1)farmgirlmimi43 (US1) US1 Posts: 412
    edited 21.12.2017

     Your bank error example ACTUALLY HAPPENED to me once.  They made a 500.00 error in my favor. BUT I did not go spend it.  I left it alone for years.  Finally closed the account and switched banks.  (note, I would not do that to an individual or small store.  This was a huge national bank.  Just a number on a ledger somewhere.


    Now… This whole bank analogy does not apply to this game at all.

    In the announcement they said it was FARM CASH that was given out.  NOT GOLD.   Farm dollars.

    This is nothing but a meaningless number in a game.  Fake money.  If it were me I probably wouldn't have even noticed.  Just went and upgraded something.   Again NOT stealing from anyone.  Upgrading fake objects, in a fake world on a flash game.  And because some programmer somehow coded or didn't catch a code conflict in a game and this gave a few thousand players (world wide not that many) a very brief bonus?   Again WHO CARES?   Fix it and move on.



    This doesn't begin to address all the players on here who DO spend real money to buy fake gold and lost it because some event was broken.  (still is.) Those people can't "ban" the programers can they?


    To use your example it would be like a bank teller taking money out of your account and there is not one thing you can do about it.   But oh if they make an error and hand you some monopoly money, (worthless game money) then said you stole it so therefore your account has been emptied and your banned from returning to this bank.     How idiotic would that be?



    (Edited twice, I have no clue WHY half my post is in green.  I wish we had an advanced editor on here.  I understand simple HTML but can't see it to fix this.  Oh well.  Just read the text. It's not meant to be a quote.  I only wanted to quote the persons user name. Not the rest.)

    There is an HTML editor, far right on the top bar. looks like this </> .

  • @Rmaybe

     Your bank error example ACTUALLY HAPPENED to me once.  They made a 500.00 error in my favor. BUT I did not go spend it.  I left it alone for years.  Finally closed the account and switched banks.  (note, I would not do that to an individual or small store.  This was a huge national bank.  Just a number on a ledger somewhere.


    Now… This whole bank analogy does not apply to this game at all.

    In the announcement they said it was FARM CASH that was given out.  NOT GOLD.   Farm dollars.

    This is nothing but a meaningless number in a game.  Fake money.  If it were me I probably wouldn't have even noticed.  Just went and upgraded something.   Again NOT stealing from anyone.  Upgrading fake objects, in a fake world on a flash game.  And because some programmer somehow coded or didn't catch a code conflict in a game and this gave a few thousand players (world wide not that many) a very brief bonus?   Again WHO CARES?   Fix it and move on.



    This doesn't begin to address all the players on here who DO spend real money to buy fake gold and lost it because some event was broken.  (still is.) Those people can't "ban" the programers can they?


    To use your example it would be like a bank teller taking money out of your account and there is not one thing you can do about it.   But oh if they make an error and hand you some monopoly money, (worthless game money) then said you stole it so therefore your account has been emptied and your banned from returning to this bank.     How idiotic would that be?



    (Edited twice, I have no clue WHY half my post is in green.  I wish we had an advanced editor on here.  I understand simple HTML but can't see it to fix this.  Oh well.  Just read the text. It's not meant to be a quote.  I only wanted to quote the persons user name. Not the rest.)

    firrst, that was not my example... second, your example could have been an error that cost someone else that $500.00 by being put in the wrong account. did you ever think that the bankk may not have believed someone else that they deposited and it did not post to their account therefore leaving them short that $500 bucks. so to say you would not do that to a person, you did... that money was somebody else's not the banks money, it posted to the wrong account...  the right thing to do is tell the bank! and i understand this is a game and fake money but it does buy game features. some people pay gold for game cash..... and it s not meaningless in the game or they would just give you more instead of making you earn it...

    and referring to the christmas event being broken, i'm doing fine in chapter 4 and will be done with the list early even tho i had to upgrgade a building 3 times just to be able to make an item....  and ggs gave the decos for the messed up chapters, not just to the players that actually played but to all active players... the deco happiness is not super but the vhp are good and the reality is the deco points would have never been spectacular for this anyway. the most i've seen someone say they reached was something like 51 personal happiness points but i have seen none complain about the vhp on the decos given... everyone has been given chapters 1-3 marked as complete so as long as they finish chapter 4, they can play chapter 5. any gold spent has been compensated by just the decos really because that is what you would be spending the gold on during the event, to earn the deco, that is the prize, plus they gave us all some extra @Rmaybe (US1)

    and sure players can 'ban' the developers, quit [email protected]"Rmaybe (US1)"

    the object of the game is to build your farm so you can EARN the money so you can expand your farm so yoy can earn more money and continue to play. to say that the game money is FAKE is where you are in error... it is not actual legal tender but is is real in the game... you need it to produce everything but wildflowers.... in this game to play this game, it is very real... and very necessary that is why the give yo some to start off with. for those that took advantage of this situation and now have a zero balance, well, think how hard that will be to come back from. but for ggs to just move on, that makes it unfair ti many more that did not do this as well as is bad for the game. it would be similar to having someone misbehave during work or school or in public or what ever and nothing being done about it. as they say, it would be anarchy... lol someone else here said that some games would permanently ban you for doing something like this
    just saying... 
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491

    Correct. The 3 Happy Hour times (7:00-10:00, 12:00-15:00, 18:00-21:00) are NOT associated 1:1 for the 3 Happy Hour checkmarks.

    The checkmarks start at the top and work their way down.

    If you miss 1 Happy Hour, the bottom Happy Hour will have the "Ø" in it, because it is no longer possible to get all 3 Happy Hour bonuses.  If you miss 2 Happy Hours, the middle and the bottom bonuses will have the "Ø" in them because it's no longer possible to get those bonuses.  If you then miss the 3rd happy hour (the 18:00-21:00 one), then the last bonus available, the TOP one, will get the Ø.

    If you're only online during 1 Happy Hour a day, say the 18:00-21:00 one, then only the TOP bonus will get activated (and thus, the checkmark). 

    You can't just log in once a day and expect to get the highest bonus (the bottom one).  You have to work your way up to it by hitting all 3 happy hours.

    And unlike GGS says, sometimes you can be "Online" during a Happy Hour and the game won't recognize it; sometimes you HAVE to log out and back in for it to register. 

    I don't even check anymore; I just automatically log out and in around 8AM, 1PM, and 7PM. Haven't missed a bonus since I started doing that.

    You can't rely on "just being online" and getting credit for a happy hour. You HAVE to check.
    While this is correct and is what i said - sort of - the point is I know I was not only online but active - I think that is what gavinfarms was also saying
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    In all honesty, they should have just "fixed the leak" and moved on.  No other players were harmed, and no one thought it unfair when some players simply used the tools  they found at hand.  There are so many elements of this game that make it unfair to others, but are "legal" in terms of game play, that one wonders why GGS is making such a fuss over this.  Many were asleep when it happened, and wouldn't have known about it otherwise.  

    My fear is this:  because they aren't disclosing what the affected items were, or what the sale amounts wereo, how do we know what to look out for should it happen again?  First thing in the morning, I am half asleep when I try to breeze through the fishing areas and farms to harvest ... it's "click, click click," selling off the excess without looking at the prices or my bank account before starting the day in my real life.  And should I realize I had a windfall, I honestly  would have thought it was GGS making good on all the losses we encountered this year, and would have bought land or upgraded or whatever.

    The point being, it could have happened to me or you.  And we'd find ourselves wiped out and banned.  And that's a very sobering thought.
    from some members in my coop it was honey cream and soap - don't know and don't care how much $$ they got - they are worried the "ban" hasn't happened yet many are reporting they lost lots more than just an overage of $$

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,459
    In all honesty, they should have just "fixed the leak" and moved on.  No other players were harmed, and no one thought it unfair when some players simply used the tools  they found at hand.  There are so many elements of this game that make it unfair to others, but are "legal" in terms of game play, that one wonders why GGS is making such a fuss over this.  Many were asleep when it happened, and wouldn't have known about it otherwise.  

    My fear is this:  because they aren't disclosing what the affected items were, or what the sale amounts wereo, how do we know what to look out for should it happen again?  First thing in the morning, I am half asleep when I try to breeze through the fishing areas and farms to harvest ... it's "click, click click," selling off the excess without looking at the prices or my bank account before starting the day in my real life.  And should I realize I had a windfall, I honestly  would have thought it was GGS making good on all the losses we encountered this year, and would have bought land or upgraded or whatever.

    The point being, it could have happened to me or you.  And we'd find ourselves wiped out and banned.  And that's a very sobering thought.
    from some members in my coop it was honey cream and soap - don't know and don't care how much $$ they got - they are worried the "ban" hasn't happened yet many are reporting they lost lots more than just an overage of $$

    That's not good.  If I'm reading Cuddly's announcement correctly, they aren't finished with banning people or recouping "losses."  One of my morning harvests always is honey cream.  I'm hoping all this took place and was corrected by the time I harvested mine.  I didn't notice any unusual increase in my bank account.
    .


    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • to me, it doesn't sound like what these people did was an 'oops, i didn't realize what happened' situation. it sounded like it was blatant abuse of a glitch/bug. it was not indicated how long it existed as far as i have seen. and imo, to say  no other players were hurt by it, well you just don't know that.some  people here seem pretty upset when their co-op rank is not right and being able to spend a lot on boosters would make that an unfair advantage that some co-ops would not have had. sounds like to me that could upset/harm some co-ops and people in the game
  • I'll sum this up very simply:

    Player accidentally spends 50,000 gold on something they don;t want due to a misclick or error,... GGS reaction is "be more careful next time because it was YOUR mistake to click the trolley"

    GGS accidentally mess up a code in the game that gives the player much much more farm dollars when selling items.......My reaction, "be more careful next time GGS because it was YOUR mistake"

    Spare me the fairness drivel, The player finally benefits from something and now GGS claims its unfair. 

    Luckily I slept though this entire debacle so I don;t have to worry about this issue but banning players because of something YOU did wrong is ridiculous. You have been fleecing players of their gold and real money for years through accidental purchases and mistakes yet now that the shoe is on the other foot all of a sudden its all unfair. I'm not one of the players affected, neither is anyone in my team but I still felt the need to put in my 2 cents worth here.
    ggs did not say it was unfair to them but to other players, which it would have been if left uncorrected
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    How do we know if we received extra cash.  Did this also happen when "donating" items for the Christmas event?

    Has the money already been removed from accounts?  

    Does anyone know what these items were?  

    Breakdown on the Lab
    126,321,371,000 (lab cost) ÷ 5,000,000 (Average daily earnings) = 25,264.27 days
    25,264.27 (days) ÷ 365 (days in a year) = 69.22 years to fully upgrade the Lab
    That's if you use the daily earnings to upgrade the Lab ONLY, no spending on other upgrades, islands, boosters, or anything else.
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,459
    How do we know if we received extra cash.  Did this also happen when "donating" items for the Christmas event?

    Has the money already been removed from accounts?  

    Does anyone know what these items were?  
    My concerns as well.  Someone said honey cream and soap, but I can't verify this.
    .


    Hate coops but missing out on the benefits?  Check out "Hearts of Gold," the non-coop coop -- we leave you alone to farm your way.  No donations or group participation required.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/158239/just-want-to-be-left-alone-to-farm-in-peace-us1-hearts-of-gold

  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    edited 21.12.2017
    How do we know if we received extra cash.  Did this also happen when "donating" items for the Christmas event?

    Has the money already been removed from accounts?  

    Does anyone know what these items were?  

    In guardian phase of christmas preparations, I noticed that wet pig feed, cow sillage, alfalfa, rubataga are "bugged".
    Surya54 @ WWW 1

    Keep it up!
  • Rmaybe (US1)Rmaybe (US1) Posts: 20
    edited 21.12.2017
    I'll sum this up very simply:

    Player accidentally spends 50,000 gold on something they don;t want due to a misclick or error,... GGS reaction is "be more careful next time because it was YOUR mistake to click the trolley"

    GGS accidentally mess up a code in the game that gives the player much much more farm dollars when selling items.......My reaction, "be more careful next time GGS because it was YOUR mistake"

    Spare me the fairness drivel, The player finally benefits from something and now GGS claims its unfair. 

    Luckily I slept though this entire debacle so I don;t have to worry about this issue but banning players because of something YOU did wrong is ridiculous. You have been fleecing players of their gold and real money for years through accidental purchases and mistakes yet now that the shoe is on the other foot all of a sudden its all unfair. I'm not one of the players affected, neither is anyone in my team but I still felt the need to put in my 2 cents worth here.
    ggs did not say it was unfair to them but to other players, which it would have been if left uncorrected
    Isn't running the Shin event with 10 million rep points on offer for first place during CC also unfair to players? The only difference there is GGS makes lots of money by doing this, I don't see them concerned over fairness to players in that case?
    i don't know what the shin event is... and they make no money from me at all. you do not have to spend money to play this game and that is not unfair. people choose to put money into this game for many reasons but it is not required. it is a free game with no ads


    so even not knowing what event you are referring to, i would say no, it is not unfair. 
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,267

    Correct. The 3 Happy Hour times (7:00-10:00, 12:00-15:00, 18:00-21:00) are NOT associated 1:1 for the 3 Happy Hour checkmarks.

    The checkmarks start at the top and work their way down.

    If you miss 1 Happy Hour, the bottom Happy Hour will have the "Ø" in it, because it is no longer possible to get all 3 Happy Hour bonuses.  If you miss 2 Happy Hours, the middle and the bottom bonuses will have the "Ø" in them because it's no longer possible to get those bonuses.  If you then miss the 3rd happy hour (the 18:00-21:00 one), then the last bonus available, the TOP one, will get the Ø.

    If you're only online during 1 Happy Hour a day, say the 18:00-21:00 one, then only the TOP bonus will get activated (and thus, the checkmark). 

    You can't just log in once a day and expect to get the highest bonus (the bottom one).  You have to work your way up to it by hitting all 3 happy hours.

    And unlike GGS says, sometimes you can be "Online" during a Happy Hour and the game won't recognize it; sometimes you HAVE to log out and back in for it to register. 

    I don't even check anymore; I just automatically log out and in around 8AM, 1PM, and 7PM. Haven't missed a bonus since I started doing that.

    You can't rely on "just being online" and getting credit for a happy hour. You HAVE to check.
    While this is correct and is what i said - sort of - the point is I know I was not only online but active - I think that is what gavinfarms was also saying
    Yes, but I still did not get all of my check marks for Monday, and no one from GGS has addressed this.  So I will get punished this weekend. 
    gavinfarms @ us 1
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    How do we know if we received extra cash.  Did this also happen when "donating" items for the Christmas event?

    Has the money already been removed from accounts?  

    Does anyone know what these items were?  
    My concerns as well.  Someone said honey cream and soap, but I can't verify this.
    I said it as it came directly from some members of my co-op who received and had deleted $$ - at least one person said they knew it was much more than they were used to and was "fun" at the time - but so was DSF! the members have said they lost much more than they gained from selling. I know that both honey cream and soap were in many of my co-op members Santa list on this last  chapter - don't really remember the prior ones

    I personally had honey cream maxed in my inventory for some time but was making it every 10-12 hours or so and would sell w/e was the excess over inventory as I normally would do - I sure don't look at those $$ amounts but i never had a huge amount in my farm $$ 

    I agree - I don't think they have "recovered" all or are done "banning" which I personally don't feel is right in any way shape or form
  • TheGabi (US1)TheGabi (US1) US1 Posts: 117
    I do the same thing every morning when I first log on.. once I have sent out my ships, and purchased crew for the day..  I sell off all excess DSF from a even number balance.   ie  If i have  102, 384 lobsters i sell off the all but the 100 K....   leaving me an even number in inventory..  I sell off all but shells, and swords.   Then I totally sell off all the Oleg fish except for the ones i am using in the restaurant for the day...  

    I have done this for months to pay for the crew members for DSF and make a little bit for upgrades here and there.  Currently doing Trawlers and they take a good bit of farm dollars.  I don't normally sell out of inventory items i am using for market orders, or donation events.  but if your barns are full you don't really have any other choice if you don't have a contract for items.

    I can only hope that GGS will eventually allow us to know what item it was that was mistakenly priced for out of inventory sale that caused this "exploit".   Because I don't LOOK at the prices paid for selling items, I just sell them.  It's not like these selling prices are leveraged to a differing amount every day like a commodities market.

    I can only hope a full explanation is forth coming for my own peace of mind.  






  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    edited 21.12.2017
    While this is correct and is what i said - sort of - the point is I know I was not only online but active - I think that is what gavinfarms was also saying
    Yes, but I still did not get all of my check marks for Monday, and no one from GGS has addressed this.  So I will get punished this weekend. 
    same - they have never "fixed" it and the reduction is very significant - however in the end it is just like running a HH for the temp farm when the farm is not even there : D

  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    I don't know whether or not I got extra cash.  My coop did enter the second phase and I did donate a lot of items to help others.  I am use to making a lot of extra cash during this event, especially when it comes to bakery goods and flower farm goods and I did not keep track of what I donated so I have no way of knowing if I got extra cash. 

    The whole banning of players ... I do not believe is in GGS's best interest.  This would hurt a lot more than those players.  This will hurt MANY coops.  Coop membership is so low lately with so many players leaving the game that many cannot afford to lose anymore members.  Depending on how many players are removed from any one coop, it could be crippling to the coop.

    Breakdown on the Lab
    126,321,371,000 (lab cost) ÷ 5,000,000 (Average daily earnings) = 25,264.27 days
    25,264.27 (days) ÷ 365 (days in a year) = 69.22 years to fully upgrade the Lab
    That's if you use the daily earnings to upgrade the Lab ONLY, no spending on other upgrades, islands, boosters, or anything else.
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    according to most players in this thread they didn't even have that much in farm $$ i spend between $7.5 mill - 15 mill buying 500 to 1000 Roys(?) at a time every few days and i shudder to think about how much farm $$ is spent on the temp farm at $2.5 mill every so many hours or $2 mill /hour on goldfish  and then there are 10 hour boosters... 

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/169509/my-acc-blocked-farm-dollars-gone#latest
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    So what are coops supposed to do??  Do we just sit and wait to see who's light turn red to know if a player got banned.  I would like to know exactly how long this ban will last.   

    I am glad I was very busy today.  I don't think I could have dealt with another mess and restart of the CHWE.

    I am guessing the problem happened after the first reset today?

    See sometimes it pays to take a break and spend time with family.

    Breakdown on the Lab
    126,321,371,000 (lab cost) ÷ 5,000,000 (Average daily earnings) = 25,264.27 days
    25,264.27 (days) ÷ 365 (days in a year) = 69.22 years to fully upgrade the Lab
    That's if you use the daily earnings to upgrade the Lab ONLY, no spending on other upgrades, islands, boosters, or anything else.
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    well they certainly have changed the #s on the CCHWE coming up on my 4th corn set in just a few hours had 3 corn sets in about 3 hours 3 sets of ruti and 2 wf even wheat had max time of 3 hours nothing to just let it work for a few winks of sleep - and i said i wasn't going to play it ... grrrr to myself!!

  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 545
    some of the players didn't do anything wrong and didn't know anything about this foolish bug, what should they do that ggs punished them without any guilty???????????????????
    Every day online from 8 till 24 hours. I didn't know that there was a bug with money. I used seaweed to up my apples to 6 for the CHWE,   It is absurd.

    SO : Please do never use seaweed, slightly higher score to get for the CHWE, because you cannot play for 72 hours.


               
     With the Christmas season we say peace on Earth, but that is not the case here. Thank you so much to make people suffer GGS, which know nothing.
  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 545
    edited 21.12.2017
     I read with the SOAP, yes I am spent all day with SOAP. If you need SOAP for the 6060 Christmas event and it comes with 30 you should be, I had now 1590 so had some to go.  And part 3 more than 5000, yes your barn is full and you sell the soap.       

                      
    why did I have to make 6060 soap?
    Post edited by Maggiltilda (NL1) on
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