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Update Nov 1st - Worldwide Championship 2nd Run - Discussion

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  • Just Kar (US1)Just Kar (US1) US1 Posts: 340
    @WascallyWabbit

    The first WWC the US server was 5 from the top, now 5 from the bottom. Why is this???  Could it be the developers are chasing people off by pushing all these back to back cooperative challenges?  People plead for less competition in the forums, they give us more.

    We are suppose to get our server to a higher ranking???  How do the developers want us to do this? We can sit for hours on end to play for ourselves but we cannot possibly force others to play. 

    My hours of sitting here for the little 600 coins are done, it is just not worth it anymore. We are all fighting a losing battle and it almost seems that the developers want this game to fail.

    GGS has very little credibility anymore. It may be time to move on.
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    @gavinfarms (US1), this is exactly the same method as used in the first run of the WWC and has been discussed on the forum extensively. The only difference for you is is that the US1 server is scoring a lot lower than last time.
    For us players on consistently low ranking servers nothing has changed, not saying it is fair but you saying that this "must" be changed seems a bit late.

    You make my point for me.  This is exactly how corrupt regimes work.  When something bad happens, they hide behind complex formulas, and say it was not their fault....claiming that "we" should have "known."  

    Do not misinterpret me......I am not saying that this happens because the people at GGS are bad people......not at all.  It is simply always easier to hide behind complexities and claim that you made no mistake.  Again, I have been part of running a software firm.  This happens a lot in them.  Programmers will never (and I mean never) admit to an error, no matter how obvious it is.  They will lie and go to any length to avoid admitting an error.  It is just a hazard of that job.  You need robust project management to prevent that from leading a software company in a bad direction.  That is clearly missing here.

    I told the people in my coop to save their coins after the last WW, saying that certainly, they would be able to buy something after it came again.  I was so wrong.  If you are 14th on the US server, you will need the entire WW event to run more than three times to buy a single Tropical House.  This is beyond silly.

    And don't forget how this damages everything.  They are running the CC with only 4-day gaps.  Points are down across all coops.  I keep track of this.  We rank higher and with less points.  They are destroying other events as well.  I get messages daily about burn out and frustration.  GGS has not misread the mood of the player this badly,  in the entire history of this game.
  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    edited 10.11.2017
    Hello

    Why was the WWC WOF stopped immediately . Many players could not even spin it fully  :|
    I had plans to spin it today and went to sleep only to find it has ended already today morning and what about the free points many won from this WOF ?? 
    As usual its the same story .
    This is not fair , atleast u should end the WOF at the time u mentioned at first it would end in WOF rankings page , why do u keep resetting them . Players who were online benefitted when WOF was ended and those who werent couldnt do anything as they had no clue about the preponed ending of WOF
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 02.02.2023

     B) 
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  • archerbob (AU1)archerbob (AU1) AU1 Posts: 531
    So far I have 1961 coins, no idea how I got them... or how to get more!

    Like a lot of things in this game of late very poorly explained
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    You get the coins once a week based on your servers WWC score.
  • ronin7 (INT1)ronin7 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 542
    I got no coins; INT server is rank 24, 2nd from the bottom; not expecting to get anything; the 59 coins I do have are leftovers from the last WWC ... so meh...this WWC is bit of a bust for me...and as everyone else, don't understand the breakdown nor calculations... with nothing else to do, just playing the game & if something good drops my way I'm grateful...that's about it.
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    I think that's why I put my championship coins in my invertory rather than spending it until everything is clear and benefit all players. I still didn't get my WWC Coins for first week until now.

    THE RANK SERVER METHOD IS SUCKS.

  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    I am starting to wonder how long they are going to keep pushing everyone.  People can only go for so long before they reach a breaking point. 

    I did not sign up for this. I signed up for a nice, relaxing, pleasant paced farming game and it has turned into nothing but competition after competition. 
  • So this wonderful wheel appears and suddenly I go from 9th place to 13th place...so much for making it fair...is any information we receive true anymore???  

    How do we know if the servers are even comparable? I do buy gold, I do think the numbers of how the servers compare in size should be available to us.

    This whole game seems so shady anymore!!! Nothing but bugs and broken promises!
    i went from 2th place to the 3th place. i am not amused
  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473
    Hello

    Why was the WWC WOF stopped immediately . Many players could not even spin it fully  :|
    I had plans to spin it today and went to sleep only to find it has ended already today morning and what about the free points many won from this WOF ?? 
    As usual its the same story .
    This is not fair , atleast u should end the WOF at the time u mentioned at first it would end in WOF rankings page , why do u keep resetting them . Players who were online benefitted when WOF was ended and those who werent couldnt do anything as they had no clue about the preponed ending of WOF

    It was set up wrong - there have been an annoucument about it, and it wont come back for the remaning time of the event.... u could also go back a few pages to see.
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    @WascallyWabbit i have couple question:

    WWE is a server "level" event, right? 
    Then why not get same amount coins on same server playing users? (i know...: because their personal efforts.)

    then...

    if the players gets their coins for their personal efforts, why worth less coins 100K pts on the 20th server than on the 1st?

    on the 20th server need less work to 100K Pts???

    Greetings to everyone in the Team. In exclusively to Dennis... :D:D:D:D 
    @r0b33 (HU1) We asked last time & again this time, about changing the coins, so that they are not based on server level, but we are told that it is fundamental feature of the event that won`t be changed.

    There are 100 activity rewards for players to get for individual hardwork, as well as the ranking rewards for their position on their server. Then there are coins & ranking rewards, for how well your server does against all the other servers.

    Some of the larger servers may get a higher ranking from next week, when the changes (from the vote) are made, but aside from that, to get more coins, you need your server to get a higher ranking.

    so if I read right re WWC2 calculations of how many coins we get; I could/will get nothing if my server is ranked at 24 out of 25.  To date, I only have wwc coins dating to the first one played and nothing received from the present one. My conclusion is, therefore, won't be getting any coins any time soon; and, probably nothing either weekly or at WWC2's finish which means I can just ignore the championship coin rewards vendor completely...like it doesn't exist. Oh well, c'est la vie...glad I didn't spend any to no effort on temp farm this time round; glad I spent runes or just kept stockpile from previous ones so am golden re berries etc.
    @ronin7 (INT1) We have several reports of players on INT1 not getting their coins yet this week, please put in a support ticket, if you are one of them.
    @WascallyWabbit what's super ticket I didn't get any coins yet why int1 server didn't recive coins don't u think 24 position players arnt worth to distribut the coins coins among the int1 a serever ?
  • aquilawolf (US1)aquilawolf (US1) US1 Posts: 104
    GGS should make three groups;

    1.  Those who like to spend lots of money to buy gold.

    2.  Those that like to spend moderate amounts of real money to buy gold.

    3.  Those who spend little or no money buying gold.

    They would be fluid so that if someone does buy more gold they get bumped up to the next level or vice versa.If they did this it would make the game more fair, hard to compete against those who buy large amounts of gold when you don't buy gold just saying


    This was not rude at all as even new players are pressured







  • edited 10.11.2017
    @WascallyWabbit what's super ticket I didn't get any coins yet why int1 server didn't recive coins don't u think 24 position players arnt worth to distribut the coins coins among the int1 a serever ?
    @Xcution (INT1) Some people on INT1 did get their coins, but if you did not get yours, you need to contact support.

    EDIT: This has just changed & the missing coins from INT1 are now going to be credited today. :)
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    I got my coins. Better to get 402 WWC coins than nothing.
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 10.11.2017
    I was among the ones that did not receved any coins on INT yesterday. I received my coins now. They arived somewhere between 10am and 12am (CEST). So GGS apparentlly made some fotfix. So everybody without the coins, refresh your game and the coins may be there this time.

  • i only got 363 wwc coins but last time i gt more why?

    last time i got around 400-600 wwc coins @WascallyWabbit

  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    @WascallyWabbit,  I keep noticing that you keep not answering about the HW.  What type of HW is coming and when does it start?  You have stated that you understand that it is not a fair event, if the start time is not disclosed; therefore, can we expect a response soon?
  • Is there any surprise there was a muck up with the WWC Wheel? Or that the server rankings were completely easy to manipulate? I would have taken the top 1000 of each bracket for individual rankings (those that receive rank rewards.) 

    @WascallyWabbit Where are the questions about how the Happy Hour is helping us earn more points during the WWC?
  • Tinzen (SKN1)Tinzen (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 473
    @WascallyWabbit,  I keep noticing that you keep not answering about the HW.  What type of HW is coming and when does it start?  You have stated that you understand that it is not a fair event, if the start time is not disclosed; therefore, can we expect a response soon?
    Why not just go along with the calender? I dont think that keep asking the same over and over every 2 hours doesnt help

  • CIN SOON (INT1)CIN SOON (INT1) INT1 Posts: 136
    That little coins are no enough for me to buy somethings in trader.
    Busy to collect more points, but get less because of that server rank.......
    But at least I'm happy when I get many small rewards from 5 section (farm, horse, fish, cooperative, event).
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 02.02.2023
     B) 
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  • Rocky123 (IN1)Rocky123 (IN1) IN1 Posts: 627
    edited 10.11.2017
    Hello

    Why was the WWC WOF stopped immediately . Many players could not even spin it fully  :|
    I had plans to spin it today and went to sleep only to find it has ended already today morning and what about the free points many won from this WOF ?? 
    As usual its the same story .
    This is not fair , atleast u should end the WOF at the time u mentioned at first it would end in WOF rankings page , why do u keep resetting them . Players who were online benefitted when WOF was ended and those who werent couldnt do anything as they had no clue about the preponed ending of WOF

    It was set up wrong - there have been an annoucument about it, and it wont come back for the remaning time of the event.... u could also go back a few pages to see.
    Yes I read it already .
    Like last time why shouldnt a hotfix be run to remove points added from WWC WOF ?
    Last time the Horse points won by winning against George ,etc were removed as many were done with it already for their level and couldnt win anymore . So it became a huge disadvantage for them.
    Similarly to ensure a fair game just remove the points added from WOF as had been promised before the start of the event ( that no WWC points will be added through WWC WOF ) .

    @Wabbit kindly pass on the suggestion please :) and get others opinion too in this :)
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    I got my coins. Better to get 402 WWC coins than nothing.
    What's ur rank????
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    I got my coins. Better to get 402 WWC coins than nothing.
    What's ur rank????
    @Surya54 (INT1) what's ur rank in wwc??
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    Just at 58th before WWC coins has been calculated. Now at 41th (Feels like cheating due to previous WoF for WWC)
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    Yeah I am on 21 I  got 556 coins @Surya54 (INT1)

  • @WascallyWabbit,  I keep noticing that you keep not answering about the HW.  What type of HW is coming and when does it start?  You have stated that you understand that it is not a fair event, if the start time is not disclosed; therefore, can we expect a response soon?
    @gavinfarms (US1)  We cannot tell you what we do not know. As we have said before, we always ask about events & post anything that we find out.  As the team have gone for the weekend, we have posted all that we know, which is that the event will start at midnight CET Sat/Sun, but we do not know if it is going to be the regular or coop HWE.

    @WascallyWabbit Where are the questions about how the Happy Hour is helping us earn more points during the WWC?
    @William Robert (US1) I am not exactly sure what you are asking, but it would depend on which HH booster is running, whether or not it would help you to get more WWC points.
    Like last time why shouldnt a hotfix be run to remove points added from WWC WOF ?
    Last time the Horse points won by winning against George ,etc were removed as many were done with it already for their level and couldnt win anymore . So it became a huge disadvantage for them.
    Similarly to ensure a fair game just remove the points added from WOF as had been promised before the start of the event ( that no WWC points will be added through WWC WOF ) .

    @Wabbit kindly pass on the suggestion please :) and get others opinion too in this :)
    @Rocky123 (IN1)  We will pass on your suggestion, but it sounds to me like something that could just make a bad thing even worse, as we all know that doing a hotfix on an event that is running, does not always work as planned. :/
  • Pietral (US1)Pietral (US1) US1 Posts: 163
    Please note that if you're in the highest bracket, you should have a higher ranking than before.  The highest bracket was split into 2 brackets, so there are less people to compete against.  That is to say, if you used to be rank 500 out of 1000, even if you kept the same relative position, you might now be rank 250 out of 500.  (It's more nuanced than this, but the main point is you will probably have a higher rank than before)

    Also, regarding server rankings, the method of ranking was fundamentally changed from the previous WWC.  Before, it only took the scores of the top 100 players of each server.  Now it calculates.the average of all players. If you want to think of it in terms of activity, before it only mattered how active the top 100 players were.  Now, it looks at how active the average player on each server is.

    I think it's more fair as it takes the server ranking out of the hands of a few and spreads it out among everyone.  It feels a lot more democratic.

    I'd agree that coins should be based on individual score alone, not server rankings.  However, if they are adamant about that point, I think it would be clearer to show the coins won as "200 (individual points) x 1.3 (server ranking bonus) = 260" so we have a clear comparison of how we do from week to week and WWC to WWC.
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