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Update Oct 19th - Cooperative Hard Worker Event! - Discussion

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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    PCA (GB1) said:
    @gavinfarms (US1) 

    You are suggesting that we keep playing an event that will be adjusted in the course of the coming months, with hiccups here and there, losses and so on

    You are also suggesting we buy and use a faulty product, an event in the game which is packaged carelessly, and gives multiple problems,and the results of which are inaccurate and unpredictable.  BUT at least you get your GMLs at 3 million points.....

    I disagree  !!!

    Faulty products must NOT go on sale and if they do or have been already they have to be recalled, changed, and / or substituted with a proper finished product

    What you suggest is that we test a product (the event) for GGS and to do so we give up resources and time and real money.  Testing instead can be done by the developers, and / or on a test server by players who are willing to offer their time and where they use resources provided by GGS


    No, you misunderstand me.  I ran a software company on Wall Street.  There is no such thing as bug free software.  There will be bugs, but fewer of them over time.  If you want bug free software, you should take your computer and promptly drop it in the nearest lake.  I am not trying to be mean.  But some bugs will persist.  This is a reality.  But they should constantly work to reduce them.  I think that they will.  They must work on many problems.  I am merely pointing out that fixing the reward structure is simple and should be in the first update.  There would be no excuse for delaying that.
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    edited 26.10.2017
    Well taking it down to three million won't do it our leader who 99% of time gets the GML  was not able to even get one booster  because the raised the numbers so much she could never get to ten to get a booster think the booster thing is a big rip off. Our whole coop hated this and just want things to go back to normal. 

    I am not necessarily saying that 3 million is the right number.  To me, from my math..... and my coop has a half dozen players who regularly receive this reward.......  I followed their progress and experiences.  I see 3 million as the absolute highest number that could possibly be defended.  I think that a "fair" number is closer to 2-2.2 million points.
  • Sukiyaki (US1)Sukiyaki (US1) US1 Posts: 555

    Guy, don't fight each other, when the anger should be geared towards GGS.


    on a side note... just noticed GGS changed prizes for placing in coop championship to where only the #1 player gets sw feed. I'm sad. It was always top 4 before. I hate GGS even more now. Just saying.

    They keep screwing up everything they roll out, and keep nerfing prizes that we are used to earning. I took an almost 2 month break and came back a month and a half ago. Thinking of taking another vacation (maybe permanent this time). I'm sure there are other games out there that can make me less unhappy than this one.

  • mia111 (GB1)mia111 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 741
    edited 26.10.2017

    Guy, don't fight each other, when the anger should be geared towards GGS.


    on a side note... just noticed GGS changed prizes for placing in coop championship to where only the #1 player gets sw feed. I'm sad. It was always top 4 before. I hate GGS even more now. Just saying.

    They keep screwing up everything they roll out, and keep nerfing prizes that we are used to earning. I took an almost 2 month break and came back a month and a half ago. Thinking of taking another vacation (maybe permanent this time). I'm sure there are other games out there that can make me less unhappy than this one.

    @Sukiyaki (US1)

    They did not change the rewards. The amount of people that get rewards depend on the amount of people in the coop.

    New rewards:

    • 5+ members: 150 seaweed feed (top1)

    • 21+ members: 170 seaweed feed (top1) + 6 tools (top 4)

    • 36+ members: 190 seaweed feed (top 1) + 7 tools (top 4) + 6 seaweed humus (top 7)

    • 51+ members: 1 Komainu House (appearance) (top 1) + 220 seaweed feed (top 4) + 8 tools (top 7) + 7 seaweed humus (top 10)

    • 66+ members: 1 Komainu House (appearance) (top 1) + 24h Double XP fishing Booster (top 4) + 220 seaweed feed (top 7) + 9 tools (top 10)+ 8 seaweed humus (top 15)

    • To get these rewards each cooperative needs at least 5000 reputation points.


    Quote from: https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/149769/update-april-5th-changes-to-the-cooperative-championship-rewards-and-easter-search#latest

    About the CHWE:
    I saw the new event in the test server, but it is hard to know exactly how it will look like (do all level gaps require the same amount of points to get the prices?). If they do, they seem to have lowered the amount of points required to earn them (still rather high IMO if the other things have not changed), though the prizes are the same (really, remove the cat charms or the very small dollar alternative). I do not know if they have changed the amount of products needed (impossible to test since these are different depending on your level, all the farms were reset, and impossible to fast level them up without resources; plus I keep losing the connection in the test server...).

    In any case, whatever changes they introduce to the event, they need to properly address the issues of the past event and properly give the players the items they won at the very least. All players experienced many issues, and I believe several gave up after the "reset" that happened towards the end of the event. Many resources (as special seeds, seaweed and gold) were used by several players only to end being wasted in the initial reset and the last one. If you intend us to test things in the "real" servers you should provide us with proper resources so that we do not deplete the hard earned or bought resources from our farms on a buggy/too new event as in this case, if not at the beginning of the event at the very least at the end, specially if the event has been as frustrating as this one. If you intend us to test them on the test server (as it should be) please, can you spare some more resources? Or at least randomly initialize different farms to different levels/ with different buildings? Right now only the lowest level gap can be tested... 

    Edit: also it would be nice if you can send an e-mail to the "real" servers (as you just did today informing about the mobile game) when there is something new to test on the test server just to get as many players aware as possible. Otherwise, there will not really be much testing.
    Post edited by mia111 (GB1) on
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    edited 27.10.2017
    I sometimes think the "real servers" are the test servers for products yet to be rolled out.  It honestly seems that way sometimes.
    Post edited by artful (US1) on
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
    no comment
    Post edited by 24-KL0V3R (US1) on
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    PCA (GB1) said:

    Faulty products must NOT go on sale and if they do or have been already they have to be recalled, changed, and / or substituted with a proper finished product

    What you suggest is that we test a product (the event) for GGS and to do so we give up resources and time and real money.  Testing instead can be done by the developers, and / or on a test server by players who are willing to offer their time and where they use resources provided by GGS


    I agree! I have to ask why WE are testing their products in the first place? So GGS expect us to waste our time UNPAID I might add doing their jobs for them? Why would anyone want to work for free (unless it was a good cause/charity)? Throwing a few seaweed products and small amounts of gold our way as a reward while GGS sits around getting millions for our work isn't going to cut it i'm afraid. We are not GGS employees.
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
    no comment
    Post edited by 24-KL0V3R (US1) on
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    But the 100 mill goes to test farm which makes it all a bit pointless....now if tens of thousands gold was credited to our actual farms for testing I might be whistling a different tune lol.

    Reward for effort, something GGS has lost touch with lately
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839

    Since everyone on the test server works on "newbie" farms, we are all in the same basic levels.  The top player is a level 30 and most of the rest of us are level 18-21 with a bunch being level 10-17.  So with levels being so much the same, you really can't have a level division.  I am not sure how accurate the test will be in that case.  We will see.


    Are you saying that players have to start the farms all over on test server ?  No fix ? No roll back ?

    They did roll back a couple months ago and didnt tell us anything, why not rolling back  now ?  Farms and coops  would reappear as they were


  • Yahoo2013 (NL1)Yahoo2013 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 67
    edited 27.10.2017


    It is today October 27, 2017.

    Cooperative Hard Worker Event ended 3 days ago.

    But until today nothing has been done against Bugs.

    There are still bugs present in the game. 

    Playing the game with pleasure, does not look anymore..!

    It has long been time for Big Farm / Good Games to do something about it.

    The game must be free from bugs. And give back all earned rewards to players.. 


    We are now playing Cooperative BUGS Championship..!

    See Screenshots:




    Post edited by Yahoo2013 (NL1) on
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
    no comment
    Post edited by 24-KL0V3R (US1) on
  • achan (INT1)achan (INT1) Posts: 1
    edited 27.10.2017
    Comment on Coop HWE,
    The rewards are ungainable, unappropriate; just imagine the highest reward requires 100 millions points in 4 days, each days 25 mil. For instance, the best of the last Coop HWE in NT1 only get 24 millions in 4 days, that is Joeadam.
    I promise to myself that i will protest if there is no change of these reward requirements. No need to spend time, strength, and money for it. :):) 

    Achan


  • PCA (GB1) said:

    Since everyone on the test server works on "newbie" farms, we are all in the same basic levels.  The top player is a level 30 and most of the rest of us are level 18-21 with a bunch being level 10-17.  So with levels being so much the same, you really can't have a level division.  I am not sure how accurate the test will be in that case.  We will see.


    Are you saying that players have to start the farms all over on test server ?  No fix ? No roll back ?

    They did roll back a couple months ago and didnt tell us anything, why not rolling back  now ?  Farms and coops  would reappear as they were


    Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.  They dumped the database for our old farms.  Now I am concerned that each time we are to test something new, we will be forced to start at the very beginning.  It is so time consuming to get a new farm up and running, I just don't know how we'd do a very good job at testing the new stuff.  I suspect that in order to test the new upcoming volcanic farm we will need advanced and seasoned farms to effective test it.  It takes time to build up the village, and if we need some of the products that are made from the factories to deal with the the volcanic farm, we are sunk. We will need at least a year then to get our farms advanced enough.  If that is the case then it might be at least 2 years before it is ready to come to the main servers.  this is just my opinion. 

    Don't know why you think they would bring it the new farm to the test server first   I highly doubt that was ever there intention.  

  • IceeMimi (US1)IceeMimi (US1) US1 Posts: 137
    I am sorry, but my complaint on the test farm is, I do not want to start from scratch. I dislike having to put up with the tutorial with each and every move. I have a nice size farm making millions per day, why do I want to return to the early struggles of building and starting from scratch to test something I will net nothing from in the end worth having. Then the farm goes away with nothing saved. Every time I enter the test farm, here comes the tutorial, there goes time to build just to get your foot in the door. Kind of a waste of time just like the temp farms. Having to start from scratch every time wears on my last nerve. If would be nice with the temp farm if the gifts would count towards our deco tower, but that does not even happen. No, not working on the test farms any longer. They take away from my regular playing time and ability to make money to run my in game farms. See no benefit except for the creators that do not want to sit and build the farms from scratch. By the way, are you ever going to fix the current bugs in the game, or are you just going to continue to add and let the bugs fall where they may?
  • truus37 (NL1)truus37 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 10
    Coöp Be Happy
    We have been waitin such a long time 
    Looking out for the coöp appelyard 
    But it's still not here, seamse it take's a hole year
    Wel've been praying for tot long now,but no answer from BF
    It's take already more than 4 days now, will it take's another Year?
    Wel've been crying voor many days now
    Witch suchs a pai in every tear
    Give us what we earn an do it now and here.

    Free after Jhonny Logan
    Greetings Truus

  • Sukiyaki (US1)Sukiyaki (US1) US1 Posts: 555

    Guy, don't fight each other, when the anger should be geared towards GGS.


    on a side note... just noticed GGS changed prizes for placing in coop championship to where only the #1 player gets sw feed. I'm sad. It was always top 4 before. I hate GGS even more now. Just saying.

    They keep screwing up everything they roll out, and keep nerfing prizes that we are used to earning. I took an almost 2 month break and came back a month and a half ago. Thinking of taking another vacation (maybe permanent this time). I'm sure there are other games out there that can make me less unhappy than this one.

    @Sukiyaki (US1)

    They did not change the rewards. The amount of people that get rewards depend on the amount of people in the coop.

    New rewards:

    • 5+ members: 150 seaweed feed (top1)

    • 21+ members: 170 seaweed feed (top1) + 6 tools (top 4)

    • 36+ members: 190 seaweed feed (top 1) + 7 tools (top 4) + 6 seaweed humus (top 7)

    • 51+ members: 1 Komainu House (appearance) (top 1) + 220 seaweed feed (top 4) + 8 tools (top 7) + 7 seaweed humus (top 10)

    • 66+ members: 1 Komainu House (appearance) (top 1) + 24h Double XP fishing Booster (top 4) + 220 seaweed feed (top 7) + 9 tools (top 10)+ 8 seaweed humus (top 15)

    • To get these rewards each cooperative needs at least 5000 reputation points.


    Quote from: https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/149769/update-april-5th-changes-to-the-cooperative-championship-rewards-and-easter-search#latest

    About the CHWE:
    I saw the new event in the test server, but it is hard to know exactly how it will look like (do all level gaps require the same amount of points to get the prices?). If they do, they seem to have lowered the amount of points required to earn them (still rather high IMO if the other things have not changed), though the prizes are the same (really, remove the cat charms or the very small dollar alternative). I do not know if they have changed the amount of products needed (impossible to test since these are different depending on your level, all the farms were reset, and impossible to fast level them up without resources; plus I keep losing the connection in the test server...).

    In any case, whatever changes they introduce to the event, they need to properly address the issues of the past event and properly give the players the items they won at the very least. All players experienced many issues, and I believe several gave up after the "reset" that happened towards the end of the event. Many resources (as special seeds, seaweed and gold) were used by several players only to end being wasted in the initial reset and the last one. If you intend us to test things in the "real" servers you should provide us with proper resources so that we do not deplete the hard earned or bought resources from our farms on a buggy/too new event as in this case, if not at the beginning of the event at the very least at the end, specially if the event has been as frustrating as this one. If you intend us to test them on the test server (as it should be) please, can you spare some more resources? Or at least randomly initialize different farms to different levels/ with different buildings? Right now only the lowest level gap can be tested... 

    Edit: also it would be nice if you can send an e-mail to the "real" servers (as you just did today informing about the mobile game) when there is something new to test on the test server just to get as many players aware as possible. Otherwise, there will not really be much testing.
    That explains that, we booted red dots. Looking for more players! lol
  • truus37 (NL1)truus37 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 10
    Coöp Be Happy
    We have been waitin such a long time 
    Looking out for the coöp appelyard 
    But it's still not here, seamse it take's a hole year
    Wel've been praying for tot long now,but no answer from BF
    It's take already more than 4 days now, will it take's another Year?
    Wel've been crying voor many days now
    Witch suchs a pai in every tear
    Give us what we earn an do it now and here.

    Free after Jhonny Logan
    Greetings Truus

    Just a please accept our apologies letter.
    GGS NO MORE APOLOGIES WE WANT OUR PRICES.
    Truus
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    @WascallyWabbit You say they will be giving out the prizes owed but will they be giving back the resources wasted when they reset the Silo or will they be compensating us in a reasonable way?
  • NormaHelen (US1)NormaHelen (US1) US1 Posts: 262
    @WascallyWabbit You say they will be giving out the prizes owed but will they be giving back the resources wasted when they reset the Silo or will they be compensating us in a reasonable way?
    I never made it to the top 100 but might of if there hadn't been silo resets. I used a bunch of resources trying to get there!
  • Wasn't this goofy event suppose to run again starting today? Message in moderator thread makes it appear it is the fish HWE instead.
  • KarenKay (US1)KarenKay (US1) Posts: 1,036
    Wasn't this goofy event suppose to run again starting today? Message in moderator thread makes it appear it is the fish HWE instead.
    Yes, but it wasn't working correctly.  I'm glad they didn't roll it back out with all the problems so many were dealing with.  FHWE is up and going, so have fun with that.  The new ghost rods are a BIG help in increasing the number of fish you need, IF you get the right pools.  ;)
  • Yahoo2013 (NL1)Yahoo2013 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 67

    Why will Worldwide Championship 2 start on Wednesday 1 November at 13:30 ?

    While the game is full of BUGS ?

    It's better to clean / fix the game first of BUGS.

    And giving back to all players their lost rewards by BUGS in the Halloween Coop Event.  

    Then BUGS free events can always be played.

    So the players can also enjoy the game.  

    Or are the players not more important than money?

  • FarmerCli (US1) said:
    They dumped the database for our old farms.  Now I am concerned that each time we are to test something new, we will be forced to start at the very beginning.  It is so time consuming to get a new farm up and running, I just don't know how we'd do a very good job at testing the new stuff.  I suspect that in order to test the new upcoming volcanic farm we will need advanced and seasoned farms to effective test it.  It takes time to build up the village, and if we need some of the products that are made from the factories to deal with the the volcanic farm, we are sunk. We will need at least a year then to get our farms advanced enough.  If that is the case then it might be at least 2 years before it is ready to come to the main servers.  this is just my opinion. 
    @FarmerCli (US1) As far as we know the old database has not been "dumped", but that does not necessarily mean it will be back either. It really depends on what needs testing at the time. The old database was not the same game version as the live servers & they only needed to test the coop rankings for the CHWE & how the event ended, as that is where the problems were, so it did not require large farms or high levels, they just needed testers to play the event for a few hours to see how it ended & as you probably saw, if you tried the test, the coop rankings were still not an accurate total of the individual scores, so the event needs more fixing.

    @WascallyWabbit You say they will be giving out the prizes owed but will they be giving back the resources wasted when they reset the Silo or will they be compensating us in a reasonable way?
    @Shay1968 (US1)  We have not yet been told of any compensation, we will ask on Monday if any decision has been made about that.

    Wasn't this goofy event suppose to run again starting today? Message in moderator thread makes it appear it is the fish HWE instead.
    @William Robert (US1)  The Coop version is not fixed enough to run again yet.

    Why will Worldwide Championship 2 start on Wednesday 1 November at 13:30 ?

    While the game is full of BUGS ?

    It's better to clean / fix the game first of BUGS.

    And giving back to all players their lost rewards by BUGS in the Halloween Coop Event.  

    Then BUGS free events can always be played.

    So the players can also enjoy the game.  

    Or are the players not more important than money?

    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The recent issues have been with various events, is there a specific game bug that you think would prevent the WWC from being playable? I am also not sure which rewards you mean from a Halloween event, but if you are referring to the CHWE rewards, they will be credited next week, as stated.
    I do totally agree that bugged events spoil the enjoyment of the game, I hope we don`t have any more weeks like the last 2. :/
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 28.10.2017

    @FarmerCli (US1) As far as we know the old database has not been "dumped", but that does not necessarily mean it will be back either. It really depends on what needs testing at the time. The old database was not the same game version as the live servers & they only needed to test the coop rankings for the CHWE & how the event ended, as that is where the problems were, so it did not require large farms or high levels, they just needed testers to play the event for a few hours to see how it ended & as you probably saw, if you tried the test, the coop rankings were still not an accurate total of the individual scores, so the event needs more fixing.



    @WascallyWabbit

    According to Il Corsaro  the previous farms have been removed due to "hiccups"

    The fact that for the CHWE there was need to test only coop rankings is not a plausible motive to delete thousands farms 

    Sure there are backups of these servers, and servers, like all computers, can be restored to a previous time point.  So once again this is just a matter of decision making and motives

    ---------------
    @Il Corsaro

    FROM THE TEST BOARD ANNOUNCEMENT:

    ....The decision to have it running on the test server was very short notice and the process had some hiccups, this is why it wasn't officially communicated.

    Additionally, as we announced in the very first days of the test server, it might sometimes be necessary to use a new database for this server, meaning your previous test account data might disappear. This was the case in this situation and this is why it wasn't possible to login to our previously created accounts........""

    Post edited by PCA (GB1) on
  • Yahoo2013 (NL1)Yahoo2013 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 67


    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The recent issues have been with various events, is there a specific game bug that you think would prevent the WWC from being playable? I am also not sure which rewards you mean from a Halloween event, but if you are referring to the CHWE rewards, they will be credited next week, as stated.
    I do totally agree that bugged events spoil the enjoyment of the game, I hope we don`t have any more weeks like the last 2. :/


    I finished at rank 27 with Halloween Coop Event.  

    I would receive a Gold Recovery license.

    Players finishing at rank 26 to 50 would receive a Gold Recovery License !

    Unfortunately, I did not receive a Gold Recovery License ?

    Our Coop Whistle Finals finished at rank 1 with the Halloween Coop event.

    Unfortunately our coop whistleblades got rewards of rank 2 ?

    This must be done first and foremost.

    Also of all players.

    Then fix BUGS and keep new events..



  • @PCA (GB1) As I said, a new database was added to the test server & though the old one has not been deleted, that does not mean that it will be put back at any time. As you pointed out, it was always made clear that data could disappear, so its probably best to assume that it won`t be back. - We never know what is happening with the test server until it happens, so I am sorry that I can`t tell you anything useful.

    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The missing rewards for the CHWE will be credited with the next update (currently planned for Nov 1st).
  • Yahoo2013 (NL1)Yahoo2013 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 67

    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The missing rewards for the CHWE will be credited with the next update (currently planned for Nov 1st).
    Thank you for the good information :)
  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    @PCA (GB1) As I said, a new database was added to the test server & though the old one has not been deleted, that does not mean that it will be put back at any time. As you pointed out, it was always made clear that data could disappear, so its probably best to assume that it won`t be back. - We never know what is happening with the test server until it happens, so I am sorry that I can`t tell you anything useful.

    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The missing rewards for the CHWE will be credited with the next update (currently planned for Nov 1st).
    Can you please take a suggestion to the team?

    Test server.  Why not set it up by default so EVERYONE starts at say lvl 50.  Have it already built up with X number of upgraded cows, pigs, fields etc. All set up in the same positions. Everyone the same.  And save it that way so the next test that has to come out, reset the whole test server to go back to this saved form.

    This way people could actually "TEST" new stuff without suffering through the tutorial and early levels that take up SO much time just getting to a point where something only higher level farms can even test.

    I for one am out.  I'm NOT going through a tutorial every time.  And once I click the test server I have a heck of a time getting the thing to unstick.  I'm done unless this is fixed or at the very least give us an option to SKIP the tutorial.  Can't even log out once it starts tutorial mode.  It's just a pain.  And I wouldn't mind actually testing stuff. Just not starting a baby farm over and over and over for nothing.
  • NormaHelen (US1)NormaHelen (US1) US1 Posts: 262
    @PCA (GB1) As I said, a new database was added to the test server & though the old one has not been deleted, that does not mean that it will be put back at any time. As you pointed out, it was always made clear that data could disappear, so its probably best to assume that it won`t be back. - We never know what is happening with the test server until it happens, so I am sorry that I can`t tell you anything useful.

    @Yahoo2013 (NL1) The missing rewards for the CHWE will be credited with the next update (currently planned for Nov 1st).
    Can you please take a suggestion to the team?

    Test server.  Why not set it up by default so EVERYONE starts at say lvl 50.  Have it already built up with X number of upgraded cows, pigs, fields etc. All set up in the same positions. Everyone the same.  And save it that way so the next test that has to come out, reset the whole test server to go back to this saved form.

    This way people could actually "TEST" new stuff without suffering through the tutorial and early levels that take up SO much time just getting to a point where something only higher level farms can even test.

    I for one am out.  I'm NOT going through a tutorial every time.  And once I click the test server I have a heck of a time getting the thing to unstick.  I'm done unless this is fixed or at the very least give us an option to SKIP the tutorial.  Can't even log out once it starts tutorial mode.  It's just a pain.  And I wouldn't mind actually testing stuff. Just not starting a baby farm over and over and over for nothing.
    I believe this is the best way to do it. Then we could go right to the testing without wasting time building a farm that won't last.
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