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Update Oct 19th - Cooperative Hard Worker Event! - Discussion

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  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    @Artmaker (GB1)  Also, I am sure they were absolutely FLOODED with support tickets as well, which we do not see on our end. 
    Well good.  I hope they were.  Personally I've given up on "support."  Last time I tried contacting support it was when I could not log into the forums.   And their answer?   Contact a mod.   
    WHICH YOU HAVE TO BE LOGGED INTO FORUMS TO DO RIGHT????  DUH! 

    And there ya go.   As Forrest Gump said,  "Stupid is as stupid does." 
  • Thank you @CM_Hunter for chiming in  on the team's efforts to find solutions to all the issues. Perhaps a bit of time, as suggested, on the test server might be appropriate before running these events again. 
    Best of luck and again, thanks for your postings in the Mod Bulletin :-)
  • SANDRAUser60 (US1)SANDRAUser60 (US1) US1 Posts: 539
    edited 25.10.2017
    Artmaker (GB1) ...said..... there ya go.   As Forrest Gump said,  "Stupid is as stupid does."   

    Great movie with a lot of wonderful lessons ...SO.. 

    nobody knows
     "it all"...  
    or can do
    "it all"...
    or can fix
    " it all".....
    but who doesn't try to do..
    "it all"

    So far, we see GGS needing to attempt it all... :)  that  would be nice...and it would be awesome if they would take a little time to fix it !  RIGHT.... over...  putting out more broken events that only upset the gamers who LOVE this game...we the people will give and support you who  those who care enough to try to do their best !...even more-so admit the mistakes (as our mod's have told us) BUT  you can't keep following up with quick fixes that don't work !
    But..give it a rest, fix what is at hand, put out the things NOT BROKEN...(if they haven't been corrupted by the broken yet) . And know we will not abandon you  :*   (we haven't so far)  !! 

    Your success is our success........  and  vis versa   B)


  • Sukiyaki (US1)Sukiyaki (US1) US1 Posts: 555
    I'm pleased that a mod finally communicated to us that GGS communicated to them that they are aware that there was a problem, and once they figure out what to say.. they will communicate back. That's something!
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
    no comment
    Post edited by 24-KL0V3R (US1) on
  • maxiroy (US1)maxiroy (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    edited 25.10.2017
    Well I know I got a pop up saying I won stuff, but nothing there.  Maybe I won nothing LOL.

    I didn't really put any extra effort into the HWE this time as normally for the one where we collect just farming goods, I just start the event and farm like normal.  I never use my gold or humus during these events.  




  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 25.10.2017

    I also agree about testing on the test server and do thank CM_Hunter for posting the information and apology. Although since we are already doing testing of the new chat, putting this CCHWE on the test server at the same time might have scrambled things up beyond repair. 

    Things have been scrambled beyond repair on live servers instead, what joy

    The rankings were scrambled for a start, and the point system was scrambled

    The entire design of the event was scrambled, with points going up one minute and back down the next one

    Maybe to discuss all this on the test server, players would have made much more extensive use of the new chat and that too would be more than tested by now

    There is an economic reason for throwing an incomplete product at the public on live servers rather than testing it first



  • All I can say is thank God that the computer programmers are not working for Air Traffic Control.
    Never before have I experienced such incompetence from a company, or such a poorly operating game.  It would appear that GGS are hell bent on destroying this game.

    You have this absolutely correct thank goodness they don't have a job where anyone's life depends on their being able to be competent.  Shame on you GGS  you knew this program was not ready but made a choice to go ahead anyway.  More unhappy customers more trust lost, more people opening their eyes to big troubles in the home office.  Hopefully we never see this event again. 

  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    Thank you @CM_Hunter for chiming in  on the team's efforts to find solutions to all the issues. Perhaps a bit of time, as suggested, on the test server might be appropriate before running these events again. 
    Best of luck and again, thanks for your postings in the Mod Bulletin :-)
    I also agree about testing on the test server and do thank CM_Hunter for posting the information and apology. Although since we are already doing testing of the new chat, putting this CCHWE on the test server at the same time might have scrambled things up beyond repair. And as I said before (my opinion) an event like the CCHWE would seem to require a massive participation which could only be gotten on the main server.  There does not seem to be very much participation on the test server, only in places here and there.  My coop has 27 members, but only about half or less are doing any participating so I could imagine that there are some with zero participation.  That about would seem to make for poor testing on the test server.  So I suspect that might be why it was brought to the main server without going through the test server.  That would sound reasonable to me.  Of course I may be totally wrong.

    I agree, there isn't much activity on the test server just lately, but I put this down to too much happening on the main servers.  If the main server was put back to just having the weekly event and not all the rest of the extra events, people would be more inclined (IMHO) to go over to the test server - especially if events like CCHWE were being tested.  It would be lovely to have a couple of weeks with just the weekly event - and perhaps one special event like the current Halloween one.  This would give players chance to recharge their batteries and restock their farms.
  • Quack (IN1)Quack (IN1) IN1 Posts: 172
    Missing Moderators watching movies and having fun. 


  • @Quack (IN1) We are still here :)  Nothing new about this event yet since CM Hunters message.
  • Quack (IN1)Quack (IN1) IN1 Posts: 172
    @Quack (IN1) We are still here :)  Nothing new about this event yet since CM Hunters message.
    glad to see you :blush:
  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 546
    edited 25.10.2017
    But why not something like the Christmas event  that was really a coop event, that was a fun event 

    Why do there is always a competition between other coops,


                Only for the gold and not for the pleasure of the players

                            Afbeeldingsresultaat voor gif picture of gold
  • I wish " maybe they would believe" they could fix  them all before forcing "them" back on us.!   :#  

    Here's an idea.... stop the madness, no more tricks just Treat Us with our rewards and put an end to these ridiculousness events with one bug after another, they only seem to be getting worse at this point   :'(

    Related imagewe got enough sickness now...we need a cure  <3
    We should be getting Treats as rewards, not tricks. I will not spend another dollar on gold ever. I will quit this rip-off game first.

  • Big Beck (US1)Big Beck (US1) US1 Posts: 514
    Thank you @CM_Hunter for chiming in  on the team's efforts to find solutions to all the issues. Perhaps a bit of time, as suggested, on the test server might be appropriate before running these events again. 
    Best of luck and again, thanks for your postings in the Mod Bulletin :-)
    I also agree about testing on the test server and do thank CM_Hunter for posting the information and apology. Although since we are already doing testing of the new chat, putting this CCHWE on the test server at the same time might have scrambled things up beyond repair. And as I said before (my opinion) an event like the CCHWE would seem to require a massive participation which could only be gotten on the main server.  There does not seem to be very much participation on the test server, only in places here and there.  My coop has 27 members, but only about half or less are doing any participating so I could imagine that there are some with zero participation.  That about would seem to make for poor testing on the test server.  So I suspect that might be why it was brought to the main server without going through the test server.  That would sound reasonable to me.  Of course I may be totally wrong.

    I agree, there isn't much activity on the test server just lately, but I put this down to too much happening on the main servers.  If the main server was put back to just having the weekly event and not all the rest of the extra events, people would be more inclined (IMHO) to go over to the test server - especially if events like CCHWE were being tested.  It would be lovely to have a couple of weeks with just the weekly event - and perhaps one special event like the current Halloween one.  This would give players chance to recharge their batteries and restock their farms.
    You are probably right about not much activity on test server because of too much going on in the game. But also because it doesnt feel like the input we are giving during testing is getting through to anyone anyway, so why bother?  We report bugs and problems with new stuff and they roll it out as is anyway. Then they give us new events that they have not bothered to test.  The test server is a waste of time.  
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 01.02.2023
    no comment
    Post edited by 24-KL0V3R (US1) on
  • Y'all misspelled:  
    Good point amaprincess1 (US1) :) I fully agree this is the best solution! Not only throwing but burn it after the new CCHWE or how it called!!!
    (I will come to help start the fire if need xdd)

  • Kimmiecat (NL1)Kimmiecat (NL1) NL1 Posts: 995
    edited 25.10.2017
    CM_Hunter :
    Firstly we would like to apologise for the unforeseen issues experienced over the last few days connected to the Halloween and Co-op Hard Work events. Various issues arose over the weekend with both events and then further reports about rewards have been  submitted today

    Thanks for the apologies.

    A bit late though. 

    Why release new content on Friday evening when there was a big crash on Friday morning? Not to mention the first delay and why it was not released in the update of Thursday.  

    And you call that "Unforeseen"? Not bij several players, if you read this post carefully from page 4 and up.  Blindspot or brainwashed?

    Sorry...but this doesn't cut it

  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    Just glad the event is over.

    Test server… broken most of the time.  The chat, what little I got to see of it, has some good ideas and some bad.  (mainly WAY too small.)  Hope they actually listen.  But the test server only locks up now as soon as I click on chat.  Can't really test anything when the test server is broken.

    Group features, like this latest event REALLY are the things that need testing the most.  People feel very cheated when they spend time, gold, resources to forge ahead only to have it all taken for nothing.  Especially in these competitive events.  Better not foul it up.  

    But… 
    My daughter, who is a programer and got her first job as an intern, points out that a LOT of companies use interns.  So…. some will be very talented.  Many will not. And there is a huge lack of communication between actual programers, programers of other departments, (they all have to work together or one thing fouls up something else.)  Managers, upper management and so on.  This isn't just game companies, it's all big companies. She gets real frustrated with it all.  One department works their butts off on a project, the next one in line is waiting for and has been working on their end, only to find out the two don't mesh well and they all have to start again.

    I bet this company has that sort of thing going on like crazy.  And this wouldn't be a programers fault necessarily, more like management who doesn't understand, or doesn't talk with other teams so they are all on the same page.  

    Just another reason to not be too eager to drop real money on this.   It's one big crap-shoot. 
  • ninjahuman (AU1)ninjahuman (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,526
    edited 26.10.2017
    One thing I would like to mention is that the booster that shortens construction and production time began once the hard worker event ended. So I logged on 7 hours after the event ended and discovered I only had 17 hours remaining to use the booster.

    In future, it would be better to only have the booster activate once we log in after the event ends.

    Also another issue I had was that I never got a pop up showing me my rank, my cooperative's rank and what rewards I got, the only pop up I got was for prizes that had multiple options to choose from.
    Post edited by ninjahuman (AU1) on
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    edited 26.10.2017
    From GGS we need to know several things:

    1.  Will the event run again when this CC ends, as was originally announced?

    2.  Will the GMLs currently available at 8 million be lowered to a reasonable number?  Based on the bonus point availability, and looking at the rankings that came in, no higher than 3 million for this is appropriate.  Changing the prizes and the scores at which they become available is very easy.  They change the line-up in the CC's quite often.  There is no "programming" excuse for not getting this done.
  • Andrew56 (AU1)Andrew56 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 879
    edited 26.10.2017
    @gavinfarms (US1)  GGS would only be shooting themselves in the feet if they didn't change it.
    It would be in their interest NOT to run ANYTHING extra after the CC.

    I am still waiting for compensation!!!
    (Apart from @CM_Hunter's Apology) GGS have been very silent the whole time. I don't believe that they think they can go on without actually compensating us.
    Thanks @CM_Hunter for apologising. That did help!  but GGS will have to compensate us. Otherwise it is only hot air lip service!!    (Which they are very good at), but if they do it much longer many, many players WILL leave, I for one!

    It is a fact, if GGS, continue to shove events down our throats, ruin every single good thing about the game, don't listen to anything anybody says, then poeple WILL leave.   It's that simple.  GGS may have new managers or something because thay have got WAY, WAY worse.  The way they treat Bigfarm is the most STUPIDest thing I have ever seen any company do, they seriously have idiots running BF at the moment.  (I can't say for their other games, maybe the whole company is run by idiots!!!)


    I've said it before, & I'll say it again, I have, and am considering leaving this game. Forever.  If GGS don't grow up & act with a little more decency then I will not be playing any more.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    Just putting this out there .....GGS continues to claim they want balance and fairness in the game yet there is now a CC that gives players that won the 24 hour shorter production/construction times booster a MASSIVE advantage over others in missions.

    Before I get accused of sooking I have the 24 hour booster and just came out of wildflower and alfalfa missions against players that clearly do not have this advantage and while I enjoy winning missions from time to time there's no enjoyment in this at all. Its stupid!

    A suggestion.....instead of talking about balance and ruining event after event with low greedy tactics how about focusing on making this game fair and enjoyable as it was when I started playing a few years ago. 
  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 546
    You can say that the booster had already started, but that's with all boosters you get according to me,
    that you will not start when it suits you.
    It's just ridiculous that that boosters can be won,
    So I find it ridiculous that I still with 296 lvl against someone play that level 16.. That's impossible, who has no chance.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 26.10.2017
    From GGS we need to know several things:

    1.  Will the event run again when this CC ends, as was originally announced?

    2.  Will the GMLs currently available at 8 million be lowered to a reasonable number?  Based on the bonus point availability, and looking at the rankings that came in, no higher than 3 million for this is appropriate.  Changing the prizes and the scores at which they become available is very easy.  They change the line-up in the CC's quite often.  There is no "programming" excuse for not getting this done.

    @gavinfarms (US1)

    I honestly don't understand  how your interest can be exclusively focused on the GML

    An entire event is broken, nothing worked from start to finish:
    points were wrong
    rankings were wrong
    1st attempted event started and ended within 5 minutes
    2nd attempt started within a few hours as faulty as the previous one 
    we received no prizes at the end of the event or received the wrong ones

    All the prizes further away than the GML are unreachable and that list of 50 prizes is clearly meant to be won by the cooperative and not by a single player, and all you want to know if they help you lowering the threshold for the GML ?

    Why is that, are you planning to play another nonsense event and have the same disaster all over again IF maybe GGS gives you a GML ?  






     
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 26.10.2017
    Just putting this out there .....GGS continues to claim they want balance and fairness in the game yet there is now a CC that gives players that won the 24 hour shorter production/construction times booster a MASSIVE advantage over others in missions.

    Before I get accused of sooking I have the 24 hour booster and just came out of wildflower and alfalfa missions against players that clearly do not have this advantage and while I enjoy winning missions from time to time there's no enjoyment in this at all. Its stupid!

    A suggestion.....instead of talking about balance and ruining event after event with low greedy tactics how about focusing on making this game fair and enjoyable as it was when I started playing a few years ago. 

       

    Exactly !!!! And fix the bugs too !

    I sent a ticket 2 months ago asking why I can no longer use the specialists I buy with medals and the answer I got said they are aware of the problem and looking into it.

    Well its time you stop looking and do something about it, that and a million other bugs plus the ones you keep introducing with rushed new useless competitions

     Clear the bugs, and give us whats due, compensate us for your mistakes   


    EDIT:  has anyone noticed that lately we dont even have the time to complain about the fishing area ?  That's another bit that is still waiting for their "next adjustments" 

  • Thorim (US1)Thorim (US1) US1 Posts: 197
    edited 26.10.2017
    I used to like Not of This World event but it has gotten just ridiculous on what you need, to complete it. I don't want to win prizes I have already won over and over again to me that's just a waste of resources and time but then so is doing something you have no chance in accomplishing, unless you throw gold at it which am not. I also am not set up to be a competition farm not my style of how I want to play this game, and I play this game way to many hours in a day then I should, but I can't even come close to winning and I am level 104, with all the recent messed up events and all the rest of the garbage that GGS is dumping on us is making this game for the "high roller" gold spenders which I am NOT one of, I used to buy about 30 dollars worth of gold a month before the dsf fiasco haven't bought any sense, not going either after seeing too many others invest real money in this game and getting ripped off by the shoddy product that GGS is giving to its players.I think am just going to stick to the basic farms and not participate with these other money grabbing distractions.
    Post edited by Thorim (US1) on
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    PCA (GB1) said:
    From GGS we need to know several things:

    1.  Will the event run again when this CC ends, as was originally announced?

    2.  Will the GMLs currently available at 8 million be lowered to a reasonable number?  Based on the bonus point availability, and looking at the rankings that came in, no higher than 3 million for this is appropriate.  Changing the prizes and the scores at which they become available is very easy.  They change the line-up in the CC's quite often.  There is no "programming" excuse for not getting this done.

    @gavinfarms (US1)

    I honestly don't understand  how your interest can be exclusively focused on the GML

    An entire event is broken, nothing worked from start to finish:
    points were wrong
    rankings were wrong
    1st attempted event started and ended within 5 minutes
    2nd attempt started within a few hours as faulty as the previous one 
    we received no prizes at the end of the event or received the wrong ones

    All the prizes further away than the GML are unreachable and that list of 50 prizes is clearly meant to be won by the cooperative and not by a single player, and all you want to know if they help you lowering the threshold for the GML ?

    Why is that, are you planning to play another nonsense event and have the same disaster all over again IF maybe GGS gives you a GML ?  






     

    I am not solely focused on the GMLs.  However these are two things that can be fixed in minutes.  It is going to take several runnings of the CoopHWE to get all of the bugs out.  That reality is just likely to be the case.  They could easily get the ranking rewards into more logical shape.  You can't have a coop competition, if your best players  are all stopping 24 hours in advance to fall from 15th to 26th for a GML.  It ruins the competitiveness.  6-50 makes more sense than 26-50.  25-50 is just insane.  And then the 3 GMLs at 8 million need to get dropped down to no more than 3 million points.  I can defend 3 million points, given the bonus points.  But there are not enough "attainable" bonus points to make it higher than 3 million points.  You have to work very, very, very hard to get to 3 million.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 26.10.2017
    @gavinfarms (US1) 

    You are suggesting that we keep playing an event that will be adjusted in the course of the coming months, with hiccups here and there, losses and so on

    You are also suggesting we buy and use a faulty product, an event in the game which is packaged carelessly, and gives multiple problems,and the results of which are inaccurate and unpredictable.  BUT at least you get your GMLs at 3 million points.....

    I disagree  !!!

    Faulty products must NOT go on sale and if they do or have been already they have to be recalled, changed, and / or substituted with a proper finished product

    What you suggest is that we test a product (the event) for GGS and to do so we give up resources and time and real money.  Testing instead can be done by the developers, and / or on a test server by players who are willing to offer their time and where they use resources provided by GGS


  • Well taking it down to three million won't do it our leader who 99% of time gets the GML  was not able to even get one booster  because the raised the numbers so much she could never get to ten to get a booster think the booster thing is a big rip off. Our whole coop hated this and just want things to go back to normal. 
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