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1. Maybe it's taking them so long to fix their 'adjustments' because they are putting some thought into the math this time.
or...
2. The translation for GGS 'adjustments' is: "Intentionally changing the rules of a game after it's already started and you've tricked people into basing their game plan on the original rules." In most games this is called CHEATING. At Big Farm it's apparently called 'challenging'. I suppose one could consider playing a game with someone who cheats to be a challenge. Others would see it as an indication that maybe it's time to play with someone else.
PASSION?? My PASSION? My passions were curtailed by the forum. GGS, you certainly have not seen my passion. Any slight of REAL passion I did show was either modified or removed. (I don't blame the mods, they are only doing their jobs) Moderation limits my ability to show how passionate I really am.
GGSs blatant disregard for its players is quite obvious. They must have had a major drop in gold for the CC. Because here they are now right after the CC has ended with a half-baked response. Basically saying, we care but then again we don't care how you feel because we only care about the numbers that benefit us. What it boils down to is the later part, they really don't care.
They came like thieves in the night, stealing the sell button and wreaking havoc on anything that remained (sending bouts out much farther, preventing spawning on more valuable fish, even though they are necessary for the daily tasks and fish market). They did this with extreme swiftness, they took the peoples money and ran! There was and still is absolutely no reason they can not offer a one time ability to sell what we have in inventory.
Many people invested a great amount of time and money based on the potential income from the dockyard. Many people changed their entire game play based on the income from the dockyard. Many people continued to upgrade the village based on the potential income from the dockyard Many people opened up the island for the first time based on the potential income from the dockyard. We cannot demolish the village buildings and we certainly cannot relock the boat for the island. Many have over extended their buying power and have no way to repay the bank or the interest. How do we fix this?? With some karma balls or rakes????? Karma balls and rakes will not cut it, they do not pay the bills. It will not replace the great amount of time many have put into it, or the gold spent, or the farm dollars invested! Many feel manipulated and conned.
I obviously will suffer the losses for my investment of building up the dockyard and fleet but I want my cash for the fish stuck in inventory! I refuse to touch the dockyard area until I am able to sell my inventory for the original price.
Based on the response time, I'll say:, cool down and wait for Xmas, at least, for a resolution.
I don't get this part:
" We thank the moderators for bringing your thoughts and ideas to our attention"
This is not a pool researcher role? A quiz to ask for 5 improvements on subject will not be easier? and cheaper?
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Dear Community,
We in the community management department would like to present you with some of the discussion we have had internally in relation to the recent Deep Sea fishing changes. It was clear that it was not possible to continue to provide such high dollar amounts as rewards for this feature but in making the changes that were made we can also see the backlash from the community and room for adjustment and optimisation of this feature. We would like to apologise for our perceived lack of action in this situation, the community reaction was so strong that making any statement became difficult as there were and still are many opinions from you all coming in thick and fast. We thank the moderators for bringing your thoughts and ideas to our attention and we also kept an eye on as much of the communication between you all as was possible. As a result the community and game teams have met to discuss the situation and while we cannot provide highly specific information we can at least inform you of the current discussion and let you know more about the future of Deep Sea fishing.
Firstly we would like to thank you all for your suggestions, ideas and passionate statements. While many of you are angry about the changes that were made there were also many comments that contained suggestions and ideas as to how we could improve the situation that were invaluable in the discussion. Your passion as a community is commendable and even at times when you feel the way you have this past week you are still providing us with vital feedback and ideas.
Contracts
Many of you have said that the contracts do not provide much value and are therefore not very attractive to you, not just in comparison to the extremely high earning potential that was previously possible but also in regard to the cost of catching the fish required for the contracts. While this improves in later contract levels we recognise that the current rewards and requirements, particularly in lower level contracts are not appealing and so these will be analysed by the game team in the hopes that we can make some alterations to provide a smoother progression in the development of contract levels and a faster pace of development.
Direct selling
While it is not possible to provide the dollar rewards to players as they previously were we also recognise your desire to choose how you play the game. It is therefore possible that the direct sales of fish could make a return in future, but please bear in mind that this is not confirmed and that sell values will be considerably lower than previously if direct selling does make a comeback.
Ponds, times, equipment
As many of you are aware the fishing spots were also rebalanced to provide high value fish less often than before. We truly apologise for not including this in the original announcement, it was not our intent to conceal this fact from you and it was an error on our part that the information was not included and not therefore down to the moderators. While the current balance is not likely to be changed many alternatives were discussed to this situation and they are being evaluated as to the best fit and implementation. Fishing times, chum production times and equipment costs are also unlikely to change but, as with the balance of the fishing spots, alternatives have been and are being discussed.
We hope to create a more unified and consistent experience, not just within Deep Sea Fishing but across the entire game. While specific alterations will be mentioned in patch notes and will not come immediately we assure you that Deep Sea Fishing is a key point of discussion.
Thank you for your time, patience and most of all your passion!
Your Community Management Team
**** @gavinfarms (US1) I agree with your comment about this statement! They just don't get it!
lost count on how many days not logging in
but it was the very next day after the update
and the last speech by cm hunter says do not expect anything good anytime soon
I agree this is like rubbing salt in a wound. They really have no clue.
BUT I am also surprised they responded at all even if what they said was nothing but double talk.
@CM_Hunter , @pichu, @WascallyWabbit, @CuddlyFoxes I hope that you all see this, especially CM_Hunter as well as @gavinfarms (US1) statement:
I cannot believe that they missed the mark this badly. I gave them some credit for being able to potentially find the right middle ground. Clearly they have failed at that. I am stunned by the tone-deafness of this unfortunate statement.
I agree with this too, as well as most every statement on the forum. GGS does not seem to know their own game! I wonder how many hours a day the CM team and developers ever even play this game! Have some respect for your players! LISTEN TO US!!
@CM_Hunter Here is a ink to my post on page 56. Please read it for yourself and share it with the team, etc!
https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/3615504/#Comment_3615504
They are treating us like Children & telling us what we can do, when & what for ?? their only concern is to get more players to buy & use gold for everything If it is a balance in the game, reduce the price for the fish & give us the choice to sell or not !
I have been playing BF for over 4 years & some decisions ggs have made, have been questionable, but this is just a blatant attempt to extort more money from us & keep us all broke to the point we have no choice but to buy more & use more gold.
What they expect us to pay to equip & stock our boats out ways most profits, unless you are a high level player,
So again the smaller farmers have to struggle & use gold to get anywhere
It seems to me that ggs no longer care about new or low level players, As with the Challenge, they pit low level player with others above level 200 + that in itself tells the story....gold, gold, gold & it's killing the game for those of us that used to love it
I am just one voice, but if enough of us can stand up & tell them that we will not be treated with such contempt & continue to play the game, maybe they will reconsider & put their players interests above the almighty dollar ?
Thanks for listening guys & have a great day all
Tina B
I don't understand why & no explanation was given...Here's a suggestion you can add to the pile thrown outside the GGS building never to be looked at again..
Suggestion for the future.. delete post only if you can not stomach the truth, do not edit what I say.. aren't you smug to dare to change my thoughts & dictate to me what I should say, or how I should feel or think . That should go for anyone else for that matter.
What is that saying...."Your Not the Boss of Me"
I agree with others that something as major as dsf, should have gone on the test server first. Maybe they will go back to that for the volcanic farm. Or maybe there are issues with using test server that we not aware of and they have not explained to us.
Rolling back the changes to dsf for the period of short event maybe 3 days, announcing it first so people can be ready, that does not sound technically difficult, and would help the people who got caught out with big inventories etc. That might be good, and likely it be taken by many as a sure sign of intended good faith, i think.
my two clams.
Or the notification about the mistake should be 1 week before the new fish market starts not one day before.
Greetings from Greece
GGS Management: yes they are, tell them to buy more gold
Reminds me of a popular restaurant that made a lot of people sick from bad food.....I've never gone back. How can you trust them? I think they went bankrupt.
WascallyWabbit, sorry to see you used as a suggestion collector, but here 2 more opinions:
As is fish market is self shooting in the leg:
- you can't control what fish will come in pools and you can't buy fish
- you can't sell fish which is stock pilling and not required in any request, such herring.
- tricks object are over played in rewards
As a result I'm forced to drop contracts which I can't see myself fulfill in next one week.
Bad part is that are the only contracts which really worth the effort.
They are asking for yellow fish (the one with sword fish in pool, I don't know the name in English) and the last time I see a pool with it, it was in first day of redesign, or large quantity of tuna which at current rate of pool dropping, will be achievable in 2 week time.
I admit I sold everything before update due to experience with game changes, but I also bought large equipment quantities at same time so I can't really feel the bad deal for now so I'm still fishing
Cm hunter says
We hope to create a more unified and consistent experience, not just within Deep Sea Fishing but across the entire game. While specific alterations will be mentioned in patch notes and will not come immediately we assure you that Deep Sea Fishing is a key point of discussion.
Thank you for your time, patience and most of all your passion!
Your Community Management Team
A whole re-evaluation of the whole game is indeed needed specifically everything related to that coop village which killed the fun factor of the game.
@GGS
Maybe it would have been a good idea to try things on a test server with people that are not hired by you. I bet you find hundreds of ppl who are willing to perform tests for you just to know first what comes new. People that get wages from you are not honest concerning new ideas.
From the GGS Gods of Hamburg
Concerning THE VOLCANIC FARM
Beginning 8-28-2017 the new Volcanic Farm will be available for all players to play, it will be a place where you can get land expansions for next to nothing, will have three building slots dedicated to just this farm all buildings and fields will be nominally priced, fields, and orchards will be extra fertile so that they will produce yields ten times richer then you are normally used to, you will be able to sell the produce directly and can have huge profits even more obscene then the Deep Sea Farm. This should allow you to upgrade other farms more easily and to balance out previous mistakes we have made. So come spend gold to expand your farm as fast as possible to reap the obscene profits to improve your other farms.
Then in tiny tiny print the disclaimer
After investing mega millions in farm dollars and buying huge amounts of gold to expand and grow your Volcanic Farm to maximize your profits the volcano will erupt with out warning and wipe out farms and inventory. If you think the cost to expand and build your other farms is ridiculous you ain't seem nothing to you see what it is going to cost you to rebuild your farm on Volcano Farms our latest grab for your hard earned dollars
This game became part of my life. My kids often joked I had another kid I loved more.