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Update August 16th - "Deep Sea Changes" - Discussion

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  • Mr Bohannon (GB1)Mr Bohannon (GB1) GB1 Posts: 90
    edited 20.08.2017
    'DAILY' TASK  Collect Herring, Collect Swordfish, Collect Salmon - But hang on - only herring in the sea for the last 5 days!!  How the Hell is this 'daily'???  I think someone needs to go back to school as daily to me means just that!    no swordfish no salmon no anything else other that herring tuna and the tiniest bit of clam oyster and shrimp for the last 5 days.  Therefore i come to the conclusion YOU ARE SO WRONG GGS ON SO MANY LEVELS  Tasks at fishing market, - everything you don't happen to have available and anything you do have, you want more, but none in the sea.  Its the same as the fish funnel - from day 1 you asked for things that aren't available!  Write to support someone said - well GGS there is ZERO support - The answer i was given - It's down to random and luck!   REALLY?!! [Removed]  Do you expect us to buy / use gold??  WELL IT AINT HAPPENING - GETTING READY TO LEAVE THIS GAME!

    Removed insult | Cuddly
    SEEMS PEOPLE CAN REMOVE INSULTS?? WHAT INSULT??  IT IS FACT!  GET A LIFE CUDDLY FOX
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  • GazFarmer (AU1)GazFarmer (AU1) AU1 Posts: 92
















    The way that I see it is either they provide a good game or not and we play it or not , it depends on the perception of what is a good game , the truth will out

  • Teejay52 (INT1)Teejay52 (INT1) Posts: 203
    edited 21.08.2017

    This is my view of this "update" or "re-balance" or ... something.

    We all think that this is not deliberate.

    I think this is all planned.

    I have 2 reasons for this.

    One.
    The gap between gold buying players and the ones that do not buy gold must be very visible.
    Deep sea fishing makes this gap less visible.

    Two.
    In my opinion, Big Farm is not profitable or is not profitable enough.
    And for more then 6 months, probably a year.
    So, make the game profitable or "kill" the game.

    I think GGS selected "kill" option.
    I think they want to have minimal number of players possible when they "kill" the game.

    Correct. They are making the game a horrible experience to play now. This whole DSF thing and the changes done with the last update where they stopped the selling of Deep Sea fish was carefully planned.

    I believe they WANT to have players leave in their droves....

    I believe GGS think this is a nice way to just pull the plug on a once brilliant game. Instead of shutting it down.....they are gonna make it look like the players did by not buying gold anymore.........................................

    I'm onto these GGS tricks. And i've seen this coming.

    This time.....GGS are not getting away with it. I swear.

    You better fix this game by 16H00 tomorrow.





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  • crf (US1)crf (US1) US1 Posts: 97
    Day 5, 120 Hours:  Still no Swordfish, Lobster, Salmon or Cod pools. Unable to fill market place orders. Unable to finish the daily events. 

    An explanation would be in order. Is it broke? Is it supposed to work that way?  WHAT IS IT!  
    ===============================================
    Tag 5, 120 Stunden: Noch kein Schwertfisch, Hummer, Lachs oder Cod Pools. Die Aufträge können nicht ausgefüllt werden. Die täglichen Ereignisse können nicht beendet werden.

    Eine Erklärung wäre in Ordnung. Ist es kaputt Soll es so funktionieren? WAS IST ES!

  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    Yeah no swordfish cod or salmon here either......so the latest GGS trick is to force us to drain pool after pool with gold or use up millions of farm dollars to do this in the hope a swordfish pool will spawn. The alternative is to decline contracts with swordfish salmon and cod in them but all that does is keep contracts at level 0. Balance they say? I say a deliberate ploy to make us waste gold or farm dollars on a feature that is now pathetic.
  • lowme1 (US1)lowme1 (US1) Posts: 33
    edited 20.08.2017
    Hmmm, CC seems to be going well right BF !!!


  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    This time international players arnt playing like the way the they play like crazy guys we have some guys who make rp like they gone crazy but they arnt even try to play I think they are playing normally that's what happen when u guys don't care to ur customers and now the customers don't care about u happy farming play game by ur self hahaha
  • Lots of 0's 

  • keep trying to post pic of CC with everyone @ 0 but i cant seem to make that happen. 
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
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  • I want an answer from GGS team:

    Why are green dollars gained so less and the prices of the buildings,expansions are so expensive ?
    I also want a tutorial "how to raise the farm in HOW MANY YEARS SPENDING ALL DAY COLLECTING (ORCHARDS= every 3 hours)  BEFORE REMOVING ALL THE GOOD STUFF IN THIS GAME" .




  • Unfortunately, for me, this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
    Essentially, what this boils down to is GGS wanting more money. At 60th level, the farm dollars from DSF still did not make the game a breeze. Nor does it make anything rapidly quick, not when it takes an entire day to upgrade one building. Also, take into consideration that everything has an experience level requirement. Experience levels require time and work regardless. Naturally, buying gold can make it rapid, but that's what GGS wants anyway.. $$$. For farmers under level a certain level, there is also the limiting factor of space: you can only have a certain # of farm expansions per level unless you buy with gold. Limited space means limited capability. Combine all of this and it is still not rapidly easy. Yet, it seems, you want to penalize the smaller players to limit the larger players. If you want a progressive, growing player base, you MUST make the game better for smaller players, otherwise all you will have are the larger ones.
    What it did allow was the ability to, at least, see a little progress. Instead of having to run the organic market for a month to be able to afford a farm expansion slot, it could be done in a day or two. Selling the fish, even at 20% of original prices, I could still buy a farm expansion in a week rather than a month. Farmers under level 100 are not running around with an entire fleet of max level trawlers.
    Also, for those farmers 30-100, the increase of farm dollars available allows us to actually enjoy the temporary farms. For me, that enjoyment is now quashed as well. It is either to spend my long worked farm dollars on something that vanishes in 20-some days or to spend it on my permanent farm. It's an easy and logical choice. At this point, my viking farm stagnates when I run out of viking dollars, I can't afford to buy more; that money needs to go to my main farms.
    From my initial viewing of the deep see market, it's a joke. I declined the first 8 contracts I've been shown. Why? The vast majority of payoff was co-op items (charms for other farms). [Contract #9: 5 Karma points, $105,737. This contract would take me 5 hours and cost $200,000.] Now, had those contracts even had the concept of profitability, it COULD offset not being able to sell fish. Where the market has missed the mark is the profit value.
    The best option I would give is to rewrite the markets (both of them), and have the first contract be a special contract that has special bonuses. The other 1-5 are pure farm dollars, of a profitable value. This means that people would still be selling fish, just not direct. IF the exchange rate was highly profitable, that alone would salvage the DSF in my opinion. I, for one, do not want (nor care) for the rest of the junk as it does not progress my farm.
    Yes, time and work do need to be involved in the game. But ALL of us are here for one reason, FUN. When the equation is that it takes more time and more work than the fun delivered, the game is unplayable.


  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    They are not gonna listen to any of you what ever u guys said they are in a closed room where the voice of players can't reach :|
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
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  • TheGabi (US1)TheGabi (US1) US1 Posts: 117
    Please add some swordfish pools.  one a day will NOT clear the side bar task !  
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    keep trying to post pic of CC with everyone @ 0 but i cant seem to make that happen. 

    I cannot see the points of all the coops in the CC leagues, only the coop directly above and directly below our coop.
  • Susan232 (GB1)Susan232 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 42
    Haddock enough of this! 
    No need to carp about this you say? Well, you are not catching my drift. I was trying to make a few squid, but I got lured in by a loan shark.
    Waves of cash would soon be rolling in my direction, and then you krill the whole idea? 
    Now I am back to pooling my resources and poaching from my other farms.
    I think you need to spawn some new ideas and market them right away, unless you scampi off on vacation again.
    You need to be more in-tuna, and not leave us floundering. You have no sole, and neither do the pools in dsf.
    Mullet that over whilst I go and enjoy a cup of char. 


  • Spurgiukas (INT1)Spurgiukas (INT1) INT1 Posts: 235
    Few days after update was done and I can say that I like this update. I still do fishing, doing my contracts..Nothing changed. Good update after all. :) 
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
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  • sct (GB1)sct (GB1) Posts: 23
    going by what I've read, this comment will probably go 'very' unliked,lol,,, but,, I only say to help others look at the market a different way : ),

    yes, stupid of GGS to put the deepsea fish out with such a high profit,, it should never of been that high,,, I could do an upgrade for $100+ and before it'd finished, i'd earnt the dollars back,, far too easy : /....
    so I think a lot of the disappointment comes because we see it as a great loss,,, which it is compared to the old version,, but this new way does still pay : ),, at a more sensible rate,, yes,, probably a few more adjustments needed,, but i'm sure it'll get there,, and be a much needed addition to our farms to help us get to those big big upgrades : )

    to end ; ),, yep,, GGS made a big boo boo releasing the deepsea as they did,, and I can understand why most are p'eed off what they've done : /... but,, don't get too bothered by it : ),, it is still profitable : ),,, keep fishing,, keep earning,,, build up strong,, and i'll see you on the battlefields ; ))

    happy farming farmers : )


  • Susan232 (GB1)Susan232 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 42
    Susan232, you can enjoy you cup of char, but I am going to chump on my cup of carp and mullet the situation to then begin mewling from my bowels of chortling milk.  
    We could all use more endolphins at this time.
  • Horific 
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 20.08.2017
    Few days after update was done and I can say that I like this update. I still do fishing, doing my contracts..Nothing changed. Good update after all. :) 
    Good for you Spurgiukas! Me too! Still needs some tweaking here and there ... let's wait and see what GGS can do. But indeed, like you I like it too !!

    ~~~~  # # #   ~~~~

    And good for you sct!! I for one like your comment!  ;) and do agree with everything you said!
    sct (GB1) said:
    going by what I've read, this comment will probably go 'very' unliked,lol,,, but,, I only say to help others look at the market a different way : ),

    yes, stupid of GGS to put the deepsea fish out with such a high profit,, it should never of been that high,,, I could do an upgrade for $100+ and before it'd finished, i'd earnt the dollars back,, far too easy : /....
    so I think a lot of the disappointment comes because we see it as a great loss,,, which it is compared to the old version,, but this new way does still pay : ),, at a more sensible rate,, yes,, probably a few more adjustments needed,, but i'm sure it'll get there,, and be a much needed addition to our farms to help us get to those big big upgrades : )

    to end ; ),, yep,, GGS made a big boo boo releasing the deepsea as they did,, and I can understand why most are p'eed off what they've done : /... but,, don't get too bothered by it : ),, it is still profitable : ),,, keep fishing,, keep earning,,, build up strong,, and i'll see you on the battlefields ; ))

    happy farming farmers : )


  • Haddock enough of this! 
    No need to carp about this you say? Well, you are not catching my drift. I was trying to make a few squid, but I got lured in by a loan shark.
    Waves of cash would soon be rolling in my direction, and then you krill the whole idea? 
    Now I am back to pooling my resources and poaching from my other farms.
    I think you need to spawn some new ideas and market them right away, unless you scampi off on vacation again.
    You need to be more in-tuna, and not leave us floundering. You have no sole, and neither do the pools in dsf.
    Mullet that over whilst I go and enjoy a cup of char. 


    It might be a load of pollocks, but this is kraken me up.
  • Susan232 (GB1)Susan232 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 42
    Haddock enough of this! 
    No need to carp about this you say? Well, you are not catching my drift. I was trying to make a few squid, but I got lured in by a loan shark.
    Waves of cash would soon be rolling in my direction, and then you krill the whole idea? 
    Now I am back to pooling my resources and poaching from my other farms.
    I think you need to spawn some new ideas and market them right away, unless you scampi off on vacation again.
    You need to be more in-tuna, and not leave us floundering. You have no sole, and neither do the pools in dsf.
    Mullet that over whilst I go and enjoy a cup of char. 


    It might be a load of pollocks, but this is kraken me up.
    I didn't do that on porpoise.
  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    I think we are all suffering a major death blow - a major loss on a lot of emotional levels.  For what it is worth, let us look at the stages of grief: Note I found this by Elizabeth Kubler and David Kessler, "The Five Stages of Grief".  I know thier book deals with loss of loved ones, but can apply to the great loss of anything.  So think about it.

    The five stages, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance are a part of the framework that makes up our learning to live with the one we lost. They are tools to help us frame and identify what we may be feeling. But they are not stops on some linear timeline in grief.

    Where are you in this process?
    Personally, I have gone through the 1st three and am now in the depression stage.


    Oh gees, nobody died here.   This is just a game.  A rather stupid game at best.  (my daughter points that out every time she sees me on this.)  
    Do a google search for games, this is but one of TONS!  BUT...
    ANY time you play an on line game such as this, you take the risk that the developers can change things.  Sometimes good, sometimes horrid.  But that's what we have here.  Trying to talk reason with people who




    OBVIOUSLY don't even own a simple calculator is pointless.    

    If you want a game that won't change in mid stream, buy one, install it on your computer, and you have what you  have.   But this sort of game can change.  Or even go away completely (like when they go bankrupt.) 

    I have to laugh at people now who spent SO much time figuring out the numbers.  How many XXX do I need to complete this task…. People were sending me HUGE pages of instructions when this whole fishing thing rolled out.  I'm SO glad I never wasted my time on it now.  And I sure won't bother trying to figure out their market.   I send out boats empty (since I have them, may as well.)  They get fish even without any equipment.  Maybe at some point I'll have enough stashed to actually fill some of the rare money things in their lame new market.  Or not.  Don't care.  I've been spending far less time on here since this happened.  
    Again they just can't ever get their math right on anything here.   Even when it should be in your face obvious! People LIKED the fishing thing.  It kept people playing.  It got long time players interested again.  It got some gold spending to upgrade faster.   And they yanked that?   Your all trying to talk sense to people who seem to be brain dead.  


  • horrific way of managing a game involving so many players and their money.
    I so agree with most of what has been said and noted around this fishy buisness.
    the joy of the game died for me with this grip.
    the way of answering players who spend their earned real money og this game is so shamefully arogant.
    even worse is that the managment are acting immature by  digging the ditch even deeper by slaming the door to the possibility of reversing some of the changes.
    to much real life in this game for my taste..i'm here to un-plug from exactly that .
    i honour, salute and suport those of u that withdraw from spendig your money in here 
    if it was not for my coop friends i would simply leave the game right away . as it is ..we will see
  • My posts were deleted because i declared I was "pissed" in bold capitol letters.  In my opinion, the posts were VERY mild and rated PG in consideration to the way I was/am actually feeling.

    So I would first like to declare .... I am VERY UPSET.

    I looked through ALL the official announcements in regards to the dock area when it was first implemented, NO WHERE did it make mention that it was unfinished or there was more to come or especially the fact that there would be a drastic change and we would ONLY be able to sell our fish through the market as GGS stated in a recently released official announcement.

    "Since the conception of this feature the intention was to include a market dedicated to the crustacea and marine life of the Big Farm world that would allow you to exchange your deep sea fishing products for fantastic and rare items.

    The creation of the market took longer than expected,


    in the meantime you have had the chance to farm the seven seas and get more dollars for your farm."

    My dollars are being held hostage in inventory.  I was unaware of this implementation as well as unable to do anything about it because I was in the hospital.  I have less farm cash than when I started because all the profits I sold off went back into further upgrades on the Dockyard and Trawlers and buying gear to equip the boats. 

    I postponed upgrades on my farms and even ignored Steve to focus on the Dockyard.  

    Many have profited very well from the dockyard and those with farms that were already well established and the extra cash already building up have even been able to upgrade Lester's secret stash giving them an even further advantage for this newly implemented dockyard market.  MANY players did not even have the Dockyard available to them yet because they were busy trying to finish Oleg's tasks, while others were JUST getting started and investing EVERYTHING they had into the dockyard and boats. There are only SOME that have profited and this offsets the balance of this game even more. 

    Balance:  Devs say the game needs "balancing".  
    Fine, start with the missions and coop challenges, please balance the fact that a level 129 farm has to compete with a level 320 farm. 

    Then work on the expensive costs for the Labs, the Academy, and Lester's secret stash.

    Also, take out the opportunity to reach 1st place by simply spinning the wheel in one day compared to a months worth of hard tedious farm work for the WWC.

    Just these corrections alone would give the game more "balance".

    I have never been more disappointed in a companies blatant lies and devious tactics than I am right now. And to think I actually thanked you for bringing the Dockyard to the game, don't I feel foolish.  It has hindered the progression of my farms and has cost me a considerable loss in cash on my farm.

    It would have been fair that when we logged in we were given ONE chance to sell what we had.  This certainly would have been possible considering that is the way it is setup for the village challenge medals.

    This is a very sad situation on the Bigfarm, I have over 82,000 items in inventory from the Dockyard being held hostage. And the ransom is take a very big loss in farm cash and accept useless, over-rated karma balls and water and rakes.  I WORK my farm, I GET water from working my farm, i DO NOT need anymore water.  PLEASE STOP throwing water at me as rewards, I am drowning in it.  I do not see water as a reward considering I DO work my farm and have more than plenty.  I mean really, is that a joke on the Devs side, "hehe, let's give them some useless water" ?  This is all just so pitiful, just like the Lobster cages we kept getting as rewards, now THAT was indeed the most useless, worthless prize you could have given us and the ONLY choice we have is to sink them or delete them.  Some of the things you have been doing in this game lately are very heart-breaking.

    Signed, a very heart-broken, upset player.





    Mine have been deleted also, just another way of proving GGS dictatorship and gold greed. My opinion is that GGS has shot themselves in the foot.....they have destroyed the game and their credibility 100%. The lame response that was given in regards to the Dock portion made me want to vomit. It's time to go GGS, you have self detonated.
  • Xcution (INT1)Xcution (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,183
    this time many players arnt playing cc thats good to see that many  players are keeping thier words  B)
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    edited 20.08.2017
    Please add some swordfish pools.  one a day will NOT clear the side bar task !  
    Think about it.  Why bother with the sidebar tasks now?  What use are rep points now?  Deep Sea Fishing is dead.

    Correction:  I have been informed the side tasks give fishing points, which helps unlock things in the Mermaid Bay thingy.  Still, there are other ways to get fishing points.  Good thing as the sidebar tasks are impossible right now.
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