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Level 5 = 170 capacity 13 fish per hour
Every change in this update is to the players disadvantage. The option to sell is removed, selling price of fish in market is reduced, fishing time is increased, new pools give only tuna/herring/clamp/shrimp/oyster only. The only aspect which has not been changed is cost- cost of equipment, crew and boat purchase prices or its upgrade. All changes are made just to reduce or eliminate the benefit or returns that players got from deep sea fishing. Now what kind of 'balancing' is that?
If the update cannot be changed, then atleast reduce the cost proportionately and increase the dollars recieved from filling contracts.
I understand that Deep sea fishing was giving a lot of cash, but that was neccessary to cover all the expensive expansions and upgrades of different building and features of this game. Even if players progressed rapidly, it wouldn't 'destroy the long-term challenge'. Players won't loose interest or stop playing if they reached high level. This is because we have so many interesting challenges, variety of activities and fun interactions with coop members. Extra cash helped to play this game happily. Players would have continued to enjoy this game.
But this update has ruined all the joy of farming and fishing. The least which can be done for players is that, dockyard should give enough dollars to keep it operational and earn reasonable profits. After all we have paid for expensive upgrades of boats.
@WascallyWabbit - yes I totally understand that, I just used that line from your post to highlight that fact that maybe if the FM worked in the same way as the OM there might not have been as much fallout from players. I could possibly have found a more pertinent post from yourself or one of the other Mods but didn't have the time lol for which I apologise
I am so sorry to break the news to you but according to the official announcements:
"The first tokens will be given out as a reward for the introduction task."
"Extra event tokens can be purchased with gold or won as future event rewards & saved up."
GGS = fraudulent and dishonest.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, FISHING FIASCO --MISCALCULATION OR MISREPRESENTATION?
Part II
Players were told they'd LOVE the new fishing activities & prizes/awards were going to be better. We, as players, want to "think" GGS wants things to be fun & have return for the time/cost invested in BF.
We invested literal money to complete extended upgrade costs and diverted funds from other farms to build a fishing business that was supposed to help the farmers. We drop hundreds of millions to buy over priced resources,equipment & personnel for the boats. We spent a lot of time & resources outfitting the excursions all at the cost of other farm development and productivity.
Then GGS decides that the players are "getting too far ahead in a game?" It's presented as if we are getting a boost in farm development that may not keep the game interesting, when if fact, it may more likely be an action directed at the only thing that seems to matter to GGS much of the time--their bottom line.
So—how do the players recoup the hundreds of millions they are losing because the company decides some players are "advancing too soon?" How are we compensated for the losses directed to a now defunct portion of the game? Are you going to return what we spent on all the equipment, gear and upgrades? Or, are you going to throw some nominal mystery box at us in an attempt to make us feel better?
This was misrepresentation of the game, the earnings, and future benefits of directing our resources into that which was to render a return. Some may say this action was deceptive, misleading,or misrepresented. GGS knew players would make money—if they happened to underestimate the amount in their research,why is the misled player taking the loss?
Was one day notice enough to end a revenue source, especially while we were in the middle of HW, VL challenges and other chaotic deadline events going on?
Why couldn’t there be a gradual reduction so players can try to figure out how to recoup what was taken from us. We played with the expectation of a gain. Everything about the fishing was over priced to begin with. We make some progress(at great costs) and then you, "Take your toys and go home??"
We should have had means to sell back what we wasted in gear and personnel. Now we have the option to trash that ice chest that cost $36,000 and call it "trash". We needed time to tear down boats & recoup some of the enormous loss we face. We already know how the organic market works and the fishing was not presented in that manner. The actual profit of either is questionable already.Finding a way to correct or divert what you perceive as loss, without destroying players resources would have been a more professional & ethical way to modify the error GGS made.Taking one fish out of the line up at a time, or letting us get our investments back, with a gradual decrease, makes more sense for the consumers who give you a job.
The excessive amount of activity and over exploiting of what's "called" competitions or challenges has caused many players to get overwhelmed and stressed. We don't get to have the fun and enjoyment of our team because its all about ways to get players to buy gold. There hasn't even been reasonable accommodation for all the challenges at once--we don't get the twins more, even though we compete everyday now. We don't have time to rebuild special seeds and feed because we are throwing them wildly at whatever gold snatching activity is operating at the time.
What's the point in CC when all one has to do is buy Rep Points--ahhh--GOLD--that's all.
It is a shame to those of us who are in our 4th year of Big Farm, to see what's happened to the enjoyment and fair play we used to have. It's no wonder many of the best players have left the game all together. There are many games on the market one can purchase and play for ever without having to invest continually to enjoy the play. Perhaps disgruntled farmers will make that choice instead.
Now, we as players can't' be greedy or player centered can we? We need to be considerate like GGS was.
-- Coming up NEXT-- CALLING ALL PLAYERS to help GGS ---
Market needs cod. NO COD. No Cod no contracts. No daily events completed. My gosh!! What am I going to do if I can't win my daily rake and brush?
I have 4 Tuna/Herring fishing holes and the rest are shellfish. How can we complete the quests or use Cod to fill the market place items if they are not available?
Here's one for you. What happens when the fishing HWE comes up and there are no fishing holes available to do the fishing event?
Lobster, cod, salmon and swordfish are a thing of the past never to be seen again apparently therefore you will need GOLD to skip past those boxes in FHWE. They really think we have IDIOT imprinted on our foreheads.
Ever since the update I have not been able to complete my daily tasks at the dockyard as there have been no salmon/cod/swordfish fishing holes. Obviously you aren't going to give us players what we want, it would be back by now.
Oh and if you send me a satisfaction survey I will be putting it in the round file, the waste bin the best place for it.
- Upset your players
- Reducing their loyalty
- Driving them mad
- Disappointed them
Here's a great case refer to....
Edited to reduce the font.You gave a candy to the kids and took it away. You left only candy paper. I am sad. The game is no longer so enjoyable to me. I can find other entertainment if you do not return the fish sales function. I'll wait until Tuesday. I will delete my acc, if I can not sell the fish again at a good price. Every entertainment has to be fun, but it does not have to endure.You good guys of GGS says you value our feed back, yeah right !
so here is my feed back for today
it is the 1st day in 3 years that I did not even log into the game!
and believe me, I am not doing this as a retaliation to what you have done with the " update " ... no it is just that I can't find it in my heart to feel like playing after what you have done to us . I do not think that I am going to enjoy it again. And honestly I do not know if it is a temp lack of desire to play or this change is a permanent one
We just see things differently. Let’s say I save up for a month to purchase an item from a store, I pay the store daily for that item, each day when I go in to make my payment the store says for a few extra $$ you can upgrade your item to a better model and I do. Now after a month I have my item paid for and take it home. A few days later a thief breaks into my house and steals my new item. My reaction is to call the police and report the theft. And yours is to say well I enjoyed the item while I had it I’ll just “pretend” this never happened. Just different reactions to life situations. Your reaction works for you mine works for me.
Soon i will be out of here...
I know that it's a way for you to make us use our billions....so we buy more gold and so on....
But how about giving a little back sometimes?
I give it 2 month and then you lost a level 243 gamer !
Firstly, kudos to you and the others that have been given the job of trying to defend these undefendable game changes.
Lets point out a few facts that we, the players are aware of.
In the orgasmic markets we can sell our product or not, the choice is ours. With the fish market the only way to make money is to sell there.
In the orgasmic market the contracts always have money and sometime bonuses. In the Fish market some of the contracts have no money and only bonuses. What is the point of a contract that doesn't pay? I can not go to my local fish market and offer 1 rake and 2 brush and expect to receive 150 cod.
The bonus offered are rakes and brushes, nothing to do with fishing, the bonuses should at the very least be crew and equipment.
The value of the products we sell have gone down to about 10% of the original price.
We are told the changes are for balance and because players are upgrading there farms to quickly. Yet the option to upgrade farms quickly remains (and therefore unbalance the game) if we want to use gold.
All the changes seem to be based on greed and gold. Please do not treat us, the players as if we dont understand this
Regards.