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Update August 16th - "Deep Sea Changes" - Discussion

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  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    JVD (US1) said:
    @contrary (US1) cute, thanks for sharing that!!! wish I could "like" and "LOL" the post!!!  :)

    I put a "LOL" in for you @JVD(US1) :)
  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    Wow.  

    I was slow to get on board with the whole deep sea fishing thing.  But I finally am to the task of upgrading 4 trollers to level 6.  INSANELY expensive!!!!  My only hope was that selling off fish was profitable enough to eventually get there.   Now it looks like my one good source of income will be taken away.  As is my desire to bother with it.  

    Ya know, the temp farm right now has nothing going on.  Just farm like this game was in the beginning.
    An occasional event would make it more interesting, but not too many.   I kinda like going there just to farm like this game was when it launched.  I've started playing my main farms that way now too.  
    I have a growing list of stuff I just ignore.
    Starting with this latest world event nonsense.  
    THIS IS NOT A BATTLE GAME!  I DON'T GIVE A FLYING RATS BEHIND WHAT SCORE ANYONE ELSE HAS OVER OR UNDER MINE!!!!!
    PLEASE get RID of that HUGE POP UP right when the game is launched.   Everything just lags until the stack of useless garbage loads and I can turn it all off as fast as I can click through.    Why have it?  

    My ignore it list…  after the pop ups are cleared.
    The whole coop village thing.    Absolutely zero profit to be found there.  Just a money drain for nothing.

    Temp islands and so forth.  ALL a huge drain, no way without spending money I'll ever have a shot at actually getting to a top level before it's gone and the next time you have to start all over.  BORING.   Last two of them that came around, I just flat out ignored.   I think that's the best strategy, play one hard, collect as many seeds as possible, then let the next several rounds just go.

    Horses.  Well all my training arenas are maxed out.  Takes forever and a day to get a level 70 horse. (My top so far.)  The actual racing makes NO sense to me what so ever.  I just click, ignore, finish, repeat until I'm out of fuel and I get into platinum every time.   I may not live long enough to see diamond league.  

    FUKU.    Who ever named that must be a champion of sneaking cuss words past filters.  Lets see if just one space between those letters gets this deleted hummm?  
    FUK U! So how about instead of deleting my post, you all just delete the stupid aspect of the game.  What does that have with farming anyway?  I don't consider those coins to be a prize at all.  (Nor are ANY of the objects used in the coop village. Worthless to me.)

    Events… once my favorite things, now the amounts needed to make it through even the second highest prize are just nuts.   It takes a super farm to do it, OR sit here 24 hours a day.  Then the prize, decor, has no room to be shown.   
    So what's the point?

    Skins for stuff would be so cool IF… and only IF we could move things around.   IE decor aught to be moveable from one farm to another.  Even if you placed a one a day or even one a week limit on it.
    Then skins for buildings…. well what a mess.  I have asian stuff next to space stuff, next to rustic stuff, castle stuff, not to mention seasonal stuff, now there will be western stuff?   Be nice if I could make my main farm asian, gourmet farm candy color stuff, flower farm hawaii themed and like that.   Instead of an asian cow shed, how about "winning" one asian themed animal production of our choice? Cow or maybe goats?  

    GG did any of you ever play sim city?   Just building stuff is fun.  But you pretty much ignored the whole aspect of building anything here.  Just upgrade upgrade upgrade….. spend spend spend.

    Ya know, what COULD HAVE been worked into this game from day 1, more building.  
    For example… instead of having farm workers just aimlessly walking around, why not factor in how far apart decor is spaced?  What about outhouses?  Poor farmers have to stroll clear across the farm if they have to go.  How about rest areas for them.  (some decor could function in that regard, such as a hammock.)
    Make this more about balance, then upgrades.  Those all production super farms would have a much harder time of it.   Workers might even go on strike if they aren't happy enough.  Have animal control come take all your cows if no one is caring for them.   now THAT would make this game more challenging for everyone. AND make your decor "prizes" more valuable.

    Well "Prizes" are no prize if you can just buy it.   Prizes unwinable any other way are just as worthless.

    Yea add me to the not happy about the fishing changes.   I was just starting to get into it too.
    Oh well.    

  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I still have no swordfish/cod pools......


    I want to reiterate, that while I can understand the need for some changes on pricing, I cannot understand the way the pools and the travel times were changed.  There was no reason for this. 
  • none (DE1)none (DE1) Posts: 440

    Be grateful  >:) They already closed our Deep Sea Changes discussion in Germany  >:)
  • CyberJohn (RO1)CyberJohn (RO1) RO1 Posts: 643
    Is my fishing zone ok? please help, i don't know what to do.

    https://prnt.sc/g9qdqe

  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,617
    I still have no swordfish/cod pools......


    I want to reiterate, that while I can understand the need for some changes on pricing, I cannot understand the way the pools and the travel times were changed.  There was no reason for this. 
    I hear ya.  I have the dockyard on semi-ignore.  See what's in the contract.  Fish for that. (without spending $ on equipment).  Fill contracts when/if possible.  However, both contracts call for cod and cod is nowhere to be found.  Now I'm "sittin' on the dock of the bay, wastin' time ..."
  • Thorim (US1)Thorim (US1) US1 Posts: 197
    Since GG has this take it or leave it attitude/approach and really doesn't seem to be listening to its customers I think it is time to find a new farming game and I'll take my son, daughter, her fiance, and my sister-in-law with me, and we all purchase gold, not any more. and yes I feel insulted I am 56 years old and don't like being treated like an ignorant child with the condescending talk. 

    I could accept and understand we are supposed to earn things and its supposed be slower and bit harder but at 89th level having to pay 49,930 is nutso I have never been able to earn that much farm dollars and then you introduce the deep sea farm, and finally able to earn money to advance and upgrade my farms. I invested farm dollars, and gold which I can not really afford to buy but did so any ways and then to have you change the rules mid-stream so to speak and render all the fish I collected and the boats I invested in totally worthless does PI$$ ME OFF AND I DO FEEL YOU COMMITTED FRAUD against me and every other player who invested in the deep sea ripoff...
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    They could have totally prevented the fall-out caused by this update by COMMUNICATING with us the players - they know who we are, we are the people who buy the gold which ultimately pays their salaries.  If players were given fair warning that the option to sell their fish in-game was being removed to be replaced by fulfilling orders then they would have had the opportunity to sell the stocks in their inventory. And, as there is only a minority of players who regularly visit the forum, a message among the many pop-ups we get would have made sure that everyone saw the message.  There are players who are not members of a coop who may still be unaware of this 'upgrade' and who will get a shock. I did not know that this had happened until I went to sell my (few) fish this morning. GGS could also - as many have already stated - have decreased the price of fish sold and kept the 2 options as we already have in the organic market.  It is really a case of terrible communication which could have been avoided. 
    It is much more than just this it is the way this was introduced brought out with the fish hard work event so people would use gold to build and upgrade  do you really think that they did not know  how much money people would make they knew  this business practice is know by BAIT and SWITCH  you are familiar with that i assume. Now we have a completley useless area.  The players keep this game going with their hard earned money they dont give us this game out of kindness of their hearts it is a business which I understand and pay but I dont like getting used and abused so I QUIT paying. 

    I totally realised that the huge amounts of $$$ players were earning wouldn't last which is why I didn't fall for the bait (no pun intended lol) and I had only level 1 boats in my fleet.  I didn't play the fishing HWE as I refuse to spend my money to try to be top of a league that I have no hope of achieving.  I said that a bit of communication would have gone a long way to avoid this amount of fall-out - fair warning that things were changing for example would have enabled players to sell their stocks and recoup some of their $$$.  I agree that there are players who have paid good money (real money) as this is the way that they play, and it is unfair that they were lured into a false sense of security, I am just not one of those players.  It is no hardship for me to demolish my fleet (half way through now) and use the $$$ to buy the next plot of land on my main farm.
    Well to be fair when it was first brought out with the FHWE no one really knew how much money could be made, I try to give a fair attempt at doing things they bring wether i like it or not referencing the village.  To be honest when southern posted the nerf when they talked market  as i has posted i sold everything i had at that point cause they did not deny and sold off daily after that till they did this debacle of rebalancing. I am not one of those player who are in a top gold league coop or worry about being top 50 either. I buy and use gold to mostly enhance my game experience here and to help coop in CC at times win all the prizes.  The issue here is BAIT and SWITCH  the totally unethical business practice that has been perpetrated  and I think that most of us could have eaten some re-balance but not all that they did less fish is pools, less variety of pools, increase fishing time, no selling of fish-- CRAZY--  heads should be rolling in those offices but more likely all patting themselves on the back.  Last laugh no one we will have no game as I and many others will no longer support a company that treats us shabbily and they will have to try to develop another cash cow.  I will never play another GGS game once burnt twice shy. 
  • Ready, confirmed.
    FISHING SALE WILL NOT COME BACK

    So, easy and concrete:
    From plenty coops and members from de Hispanic forum-server.

    WE WILL NOT COME BACK TO BUYING GOLD.
    We will not recommend the game to anyone else.
    We are not participating in the next CCs
    We will no longer use the fishing zone (as well as the village, leagues and temporary farms) which have been forgotten because of its poor organization and greed.

    Don't think we forget the morbid amount of dollars we had to equip and improve the fishing fleet in order to start making profits. All those dollars sent to the garbage.

    Needless to say, some members will leave forever, thanks to the manipulation and abuse that GG has given to us, those who keep their business running.
    What a way to kick our butts to those who have been with you for so many years, and lived how the game deteriorates more and more with absurd events impossible to get through without a lot of money (both fictitious and real).

    Curiously, for everything they do test on server; except for this.

    Anyway, today I say with pity that this game is not the same as it was 3 years ago, when I started.
    Letting us see clearly that this will always be more a business for you than the fun, distressing way to meet people and have a good time that it WAS for us.
  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,784
    @bdreish (GB1)  YAY, thank you so much  B)


  • Hey Guys,

    Have fun discussing the Latest Update here :)



  • Quack (IN1)Quack (IN1) IN1 Posts: 172

    Be grateful  >:) They already closed our Deep Sea Changes discussion in Germany  >:)

     
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    edited 17.08.2017
    They could have totally prevented the fall-out caused by this update by COMMUNICATING with us the players - they know who we are, we are the people who buy the gold which ultimately pays their salaries.  If players were given fair warning that the option to sell their fish in-game was being removed to be replaced by fulfilling orders then they would have had the opportunity to sell the stocks in their inventory. And, as there is only a minority of players who regularly visit the forum, a message among the many pop-ups we get would have made sure that everyone saw the message.  There are players who are not members of a coop who may still be unaware of this 'upgrade' and who will get a shock. I did not know that this had happened until I went to sell my (few) fish this morning. GGS could also - as many have already stated - have decreased the price of fish sold and kept the 2 options as we already have in the organic market.  It is really a case of terrible communication which could have been avoided. 
    It is much more than just this it is the way this was introduced brought out with the fish hard work event so people would use gold to build and upgrade  do you really think that they did not know  how much money people would make they knew  this business practice is know by BAIT and SWITCH  you are familiar with that i assume. Now we have a completley useless area.  The players keep this game going with their hard earned money they dont give us this game out of kindness of their hearts it is a business which I understand and pay but I dont like getting used and abused so I QUIT paying. 

    I totally realised that the huge amounts of $$$ players were earning wouldn't last which is why I didn't fall for the bait (no pun intended lol) and I had only level 1 boats in my fleet.  I didn't play the fishing HWE as I refuse to spend my money to try to be top of a league that I have no hope of achieving.  I said that a bit of communication would have gone a long way to avoid this amount of fall-out - fair warning that things were changing for example would have enabled players to sell their stocks and recoup some of their $$$.  I agree that there are players who have paid good money (real money) as this is the way that they play, and it is unfair that they were lured into a false sense of security, I am just not one of those players.  It is no hardship for me to demolish my fleet (half way through now) and use the $$$ to buy the next plot of land on my main farm.
    Well to be fair when it was first brought out with the FHWE no one really knew how much money could be made, I try to give a fair attempt at doing things they bring wether i like it or not referencing the village.  To be honest when southern posted the nerf when they talked market  as i has posted i sold everything i had at that point cause they did not deny and sold off daily after that till they did this debacle of rebalancing. I am not one of those player who are in a top gold league coop or worry about being top 50 either. I buy and use gold to mostly enhance my game experience here and to help coop in CC at times win all the prizes.  The issue here is BAIT and SWITCH  the totally unethical business practice that has been perpetrated  and I think that most of us could have eaten some re-balance but not all that they did less fish is pools, less variety of pools, increase fishing time, no selling of fish-- CRAZY--  heads should be rolling in those offices but more likely all patting themselves on the back.  Last laugh no one we will have no game as I and many others will no longer support a company that treats us shabbily and they will have to try to develop another cash cow.  I will never play another GGS game once burnt twice shy. 

    Same here, not another penny will be spent on this game. I think GGS shot themselves in the foot with this totally unethical way in which they have treated their players. 
  • In real life I am a flight nurse, I have spent most of my adult life helping people at the most critical moments of their life. I have seen it all, witnessed things that no person should have to, and sadly enough, watched people take their last breathes. Thru all of this, I have learned many basic life skills that seem to be over looked in the world we live it today. You may be asking yourself why I am going on about my life, and life experiences in an online game forum, dedicated to a farming game we all play to forget about life? The answer is simple, I'm trying to show that honesty and being direct is ALWAYS the best solution in any situation. From the moment you hear the helicopter land, and see me running up to you, be assured, the situation is critical, but I will always be honest with my answers. Why? People deserve to hear the truth, and as horrible and upsetting as it might be, you can't change the truth.

    With that being said, I would like to show an example of how GGS should have addressed these new fishing changes, to both help us understand what was happening, and to show they want to work with us during them. My hope is that maybe someday they will see that honesty and being direct can change a bad situation into one that people are more willing to accept and adapt too. 

         "Hey fellow farmers, we hope you are enjoying the new Deep Sea Fishing adventure we brought to you last month, it sure was nice to see so many positive comments on the forum about is arrival. Since its start, farmers have been able to make some extra game cash, which has allowed them to play like they never thought they would. We have seen farms expands, co-ops thrive, and players achieve goals they once thought to be out of reach. This makes the development team happy that they were able to enhance your game experience and add a level of excitement to the game like never before. 

         Unfortunately, these changes we made, although brought forward with good intentions, have started to have an adverse effect on the game, and we will need to tweaked. One week from today we will introduce a new way to sell your fish, this will closely resemble the original organic market you see on your main farm. With this new market you will be able to fill contracts to sell your fish at a new, lower, adjusted price. The option to sell the fish directly thru farm management will no longer be available. 

         We understand that this is a big change in the game, and we will try to make the transition as easy as possible for everyone with a 7 day waiting period before we introduce it. This gives daily farmers, and weekend farmers the chance to take advantage of the boats, and liquidate all inventory before the prices change happens. 

        We here at GGS apologize to everyone for the direction change of the game, and hope you understand that when we introduced the new fishing, we miscalculated prices, and inadvertently took the game in a direction that not only changed the balance of this game, but changed the balance we need to keep as a business. We look forward to hearing your opinions about these changes in the forum, and ask that you keep an open mind while we work to fix our error, and bring the game back to a level that is acceptable to both the player and the company"

    We all know they would never say anything like this, but if they had just been direct and honest with us from the beginning, this change would be easier for us all to accept, and players might even show a little compassion for their honesty. But instead of taking this route, they tried to spin it off as if they were doing us a favor, and had our best interests in mind, and you see how that turned out.

    Bottom line, changes were made because gold sales were down, which means profits will drop. We all understand how business works, and are fine with that. You have every right to change the game to help your bottom line, its a standard business practice, but honesty to your customers should always be a standard life practice. 

    Ok, rant over, my fingers are numb and my dog has been standing at the back door for 20 minutes giving me the evil eye. Farm on fellow players, remember this is just a game! :)

  • Still disappointed.
    My boats are not moving.
    If I ever send them back to fishing, it will be without crew and equipment.
    Why bother doing something good on the farm anymore, suddenly BF changes, and I loose all?
    You know what: I don't like to play this game anymore!
  • half my fleet sitting in dock nothing to fish for. How can I fill contracts if I can't send out my entire fleet? You've managed to turn this around, again, in your favor. Who cares about the player must be your motto. Not to mention, its cost me twice as much to send out my boats then what I've earned from the market, so why bother to send out the ships, getting a rake in return doesn't make up for the cash it cost to send out the boats 
  • xRedeyex (US1)xRedeyex (US1) US1 Posts: 75
    Posted by CuddlyFoxes in this official announcement :
    Here is an example of what some contracts look like with a maxed out market. Please keep in mind there are different possibilities and rewards as well.



    Who the hell has a maxed out market???  I'm lvl 94 and my organic market still isn't maxed out

    Here is what I'm getting from the fish market today not several years from now...



    I don't even need or use the rake or brush doesn't seem to be a benefit to me, how bout you?  

    You can hype it up all you want the players know the real story.
  • Quack (IN1)Quack (IN1) IN1 Posts: 172
    edited 17.08.2017
    GGS luring us by showing gold at maxed out level which will take same time more or less, as that of laboratory/matilda/lester stash

     
  • contrary (US1)contrary (US1) US1 Posts: 122
    Collectibles Give Away!! I have the following left & would be happy to give them to anyone needing them.
    Tickets 2,822
    Telephone 3,999
    Bus. Cards 4,621
    Flys 8,451
    Manpower 1,401
    Containers 31,650
    Tractor 29,397
    Gloves 21,461
    Mixing Bowls 24,463
    Feed Scoop 3,068

    Just send me an in game PM & we can make arrangements for delivery...YEEHAW..
  • Hi, friends!

    Russian Server did a similar announcement about Fishing Market as Hispanic Server has done! The difference was that Russian players also required to recover the previous Deep Sea Fishing conditions, including former fish prices and opportunity to sell fishes and so on from stocks directly. There are a lot of complaining about the present Fish Market, too! English Servers, it is your turn!
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    @pollop (US1)  I agree with a lot of what you said not sure it is true that their gold sales were down due to fish sales.  Quite frankly thinking that bait and switch with no sale of fish we would swallow nope not me and alot of other players,  they never are honest and direct with players always have tried to pull the wool over our eyes.  Well if you are right they should get ready to go belly up in a month or two. 
  • The info from bigfarm, say that we upgraded to fast? They had to do this to slow us down, because it would harm the players in the long term. What an excuse!
    Never heard anything about that when we buy gold to upgrade faster....
  • Shay1968 (US1)Shay1968 (US1) Posts: 1,324
    My posts were deleted because i declared I was "pissed" in bold capitol letters.  In my opinion, the posts were VERY mild and rated PG in consideration to the way I was/am actually feeling.

    So I would first like to declare .... I am VERY UPSET.

    I looked through ALL the official announcements in regards to the dock area when it was first implemented, NO WHERE did it make mention that it was unfinished or there was more to come or especially the fact that there would be a drastic change and we would ONLY be able to sell our fish through the market as GGS stated in a recently released official announcement.

    "Since the conception of this feature the intention was to include a market dedicated to the crustacea and marine life of the Big Farm world that would allow you to exchange your deep sea fishing products for fantastic and rare items.

    The creation of the market took longer than expected,


    in the meantime you have had the chance to farm the seven seas and get more dollars for your farm."

    My dollars are being held hostage in inventory.  I was unaware of this implementation as well as unable to do anything about it because I was in the hospital.  I have less farm cash than when I started because all the profits I sold off went back into further upgrades on the Dockyard and Trawlers and buying gear to equip the boats. 

    I postponed upgrades on my farms and even ignored Steve to focus on the Dockyard.  

    Many have profited very well from the dockyard and those with farms that were already well established and the extra cash already building up have even been able to upgrade Lester's secret stash giving them an even further advantage for this newly implemented dockyard market.  MANY players did not even have the Dockyard available to them yet because they were busy trying to finish Oleg's tasks, while others were JUST getting started and investing EVERYTHING they had into the dockyard and boats. There are only SOME that have profited and this offsets the balance of this game even more. 

    Balance:  Devs say the game needs "balancing".  
    Fine, start with the missions and coop challenges, please balance the fact that a level 129 farm has to compete with a level 320 farm. 

    Then work on the expensive costs for the Labs, the Academy, and Lester's secret stash.

    Also, take out the opportunity to reach 1st place by simply spinning the wheel in one day compared to a months worth of hard tedious farm work for the WWC.

    Just these corrections alone would give the game more "balance".

    I have never been more disappointed in a companies blatant lies and devious tactics than I am right now. And to think I actually thanked you for bringing the Dockyard to the game, don't I feel foolish.  It has hindered the progression of my farms and has cost me a considerable loss in cash on my farm.

    It would have been fair that when we logged in we were given ONE chance to sell what we had.  This certainly would have been possible considering that is the way it is setup for the village challenge medals.

    This is a very sad situation on the Bigfarm, I have over 82,000 items in inventory from the Dockyard being held hostage. And the ransom is take a very big loss in farm cash and accept useless, over-rated karma balls and water and rakes.  I WORK my farm, I GET water from working my farm, i DO NOT need anymore water.  PLEASE STOP throwing water at me as rewards, I am drowning in it.  I do not see water as a reward considering I DO work my farm and have more than plenty.  I mean really, is that a joke on the Devs side, "hehe, let's give them some useless water" ?  This is all just so pitiful, just like the Lobster cages we kept getting as rewards, now THAT was indeed the most useless, worthless prize you could have given us and the ONLY choice we have is to sink them or delete them.  Some of the things you have been doing in this game lately are very heart-breaking.

    Signed, a very heart-broken, upset player.





  • contrary (US1)contrary (US1) US1 Posts: 122
    The info from bigfarm, say that we upgraded to fast? They had to do this to slow us down, because it would harm the players in the long term. What an excuse!
    Never heard anything about that when we buy gold to upgrade faster....
    AAAHA..that also explains the lag in the game. Don't want players to progress too fast..yeehaw..
  • Posted by CuddlyFoxes in this official announcement :
    Here is an example of what some contracts look like with a maxed out market. Please keep in mind there are different possibilities and rewards as well.



    Who the hell has a maxed out market???  I'm lvl 94 and my organic market still isn't maxed out

    Here is what I'm getting from the fish market today not several years from now...



    I don't even need or use the rake or brush doesn't seem to be a benefit to me, how bout you?  

    You can hype it up all you want the players know the real story.
    That brush prolly feels real good right between the shoulder blades but I gotta be honest. No fool is getting me to give him 31 perfectly good lobsters for that brush. I could feed the whole neighborhood. Maybe one of the neighbors would be appreciative and scratch my back while I cook em. Win/win! This game is ridiculous...
  • gromovnik (INT1)gromovnik (INT1) Posts: 25
    edited 17.08.2017
    Posted by CuddlyFoxes in this official announcement :
    Here is an example of what some contracts look like with a maxed out market. Please keep in mind there are different possibilities and rewards as well.


    100 gold !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I can finally buy gold with "farm products", so now I can die happy.
    If I don't die of old age first.

    Edit: what can one BUY with 100 gold, I mean ... it's a lot of money, right ???

  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 17.08.2017
    As per Cuddly Fox's post in the update notification... I don't believe that the majority of players are objecting to the cut back of fish prices. It was unsustainable, we get that. The issue is trust. GGS manipulated people, that simple. They dangled huge monetary reward for upgraded dock/boats - and once the gold buying/spending slowed, they suddenly pulled the familiar "We planned this all along, sorry guys" ... Rumor (but never direct confirmation) flew, GGS had lots of time (if this truly WAS meant to be) to let the players know that the bounty would end - and instead of just 'rebalancing' prices, they totally removed the goal we strove for.
     Co-ops are losing players, I am seeing a number of farms slowly dismantling .. people are stating (and maybe even meaning) that they won't buy gold... the numbers team is on vacay, to return (I'm sure) once people have settled down some, and after the 'bend over n take it', I'm certain we will be offered a kiss on the cheek in the form of gold deals and rewards, price raises on contracts, etc... But - bottom line, you broke our trust. That can't be repaired.Never again will any player, new or old, be able to participate in features of the game without wondering when or if it might be taken away. Knowing a few who play other GGS games, I can state as fact that this stunt is being discussed among players in those games - who are now uncertain whether to invest in their gaming at all, knowing GGS may just disappear parts of it - if it was done here, what's to say they won't do it elsewhere?  This was a major snafu, yet all we hear is how it was for our own good. That may ultimately be true, game-wise... but you will never repair the damage done by the method chosen to implement it.  Happy farming!     ::wistful smile::

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    Please guys&gals - would you all please be so kind to only speak for yourselves?? You can't speak for another person, you don't know how we feel or what we think or how we will act. I understand you are trying to 'manipulate' GGS to get your way, and apparently in doing so you exaggerate things and threaten them with a.o. leaving the game, telling them that MOST other players will leave the game also, telling them that MOST other players will never buy gold again, that MANY players will boycott the CC, etc. etc. ~ or in this specific post here above: "Never again will any player, new or old, be able ...",  etc - I get what you are doing and why you are doing it but that doesn't make it right.

    Again: you can't speak for others, so please only speak for yourself!

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    I know it's "not being allowed" in this forum to write positive comments as we get our heads chopped off immediately - but I still dare to say:

    For the good of me and by golly!! - even how hard I try ... I still simply can't believe that players really thought that this millions-of-money-making-party would last forever. I simply can't believe people can't or don't think for themselves!! 

    It was jeopardizing the whole BF system and working in total contradiction with the rest of all in game features ... and on the long term it would indeed have taken all challenge(s) out of the game.

    Although I can understand that a lot of players just prefer an easy game where one can make money in a very fast way without any big effort or brainteasing - but BF never was designed to be such a game which could be finished/completed quickly. The greatest challenge within BF is being patient enough to build up the different farms very slowly, by using good strategy and carefully mull over each step to be taken and in what order these should be taken, to make the biggest profit for ones farms + side features.

    Of course, it was fun and profitable while it lasted (and they let it last for quite a while so me and my coop members are grateful for that), but it was obvious that this would be changed in due course. Needless to say that to me + my coop members it was self-evident that we wouldn't spend thousands of gold on building/upgrading our fleet (again: coz the way this feature was set up couldn't last long) - we just build what we could afford and nevertheless raked in a lóóóót of millions. One of my members even sighed "glad that's it's over, it was fun for a while, but now the game and making money will get challenging again as it should"...


    So: you/we all could have known - or in other words: it couldn't have been more obvious! If you really thought this party would last for ever, that's your errancy, not GGS! If you've thrown in a lot of gold to build your fleet up to 14 level 6 trawlers, that's your choice, you can't blame GGS for that. But - as always - it's very easy to turn things around and blame 'others' for one's own actions/movements.

    I've read it before in another thread, and will repeat it here coz I completely agree with that poster: If we would have wanted a simple, easy tic-tac-toe game, we would never have chosen to play BigFarm.

    Though I do agree with the comments that the goods we get for our fish on the market should be better and the prices for equipping our vessels lower, I also do think that on the long run, just by filling contracts as at the Organic Market (and I do make better money at that market than if I would sell goods directly), these DSF contracts and the 'goods' offered might get better. I also believe that all our serious (not only full-of-negativity) comments will be forwarded and that in the long run GGS will prolly tweak this new DSF after getting our feedback.

    Last but not least, to whom it may concern: I for one do not think that slandering/bashing of GGS, their developers or insulting our moderators is the right way to proceed the course of a proper dialogue!

    Just my 2 cents.

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    By the way:
    @pollop (US1): I lóóóóve your post! Absolutely great post! Hats off! Thank you!
    In real life I am a flight nurse, I have spent most of my adult life helping people at the most critical moments of their life. I have seen it all, witnessed things that no person should have to, and sadly enough, watched people take their last breathes. Thru all of this, I have learned many basic life skills that seem to be over looked in the world we live it today. You may be asking yourself why I am going on about my life, and life experiences in an online game forum, dedicated to a farming game we all play to forget about life? The answer is simple, I'm trying to show that honesty and being direct is ALWAYS the best solution in any situation. 

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  • They really need to do a better "BALANCING" job in the fishing pool department. I need a ton of lobsters for my contracts, yet I haven't had a lobster pool for at least 3 days. All I've had are 2 shrimp etc pools, 1 three-fish pool and 3 tuna/herring pools. Can't even get enough salmon/swordfish to complete daily challenges. They need to make at LEAST one of each type for "BALANCE".
  • Surya54 (INT1)Surya54 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 507
    If you need quick money, try to fishing with Oleg using simple minnow hook and simple hogfish bait. Not faster, but still an easy money for me (and maybe for you)
  • Exquisite.  Had a good laugh reading it.


    "Many features of the game are not designed to be unlocked straight away but built up over time"  
    With enough gold you can unlock them so that is a crock.  With enough gold you can have yourself a dandy farm with dandy ducks.  But oh no don't let us be able to do it with farm dollars!

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