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Update August 16th - "Deep Sea Changes" - Discussion

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  • We need to sell the fish to be able to send the boats out!!  Crew and equipment is EXPENSIVE!!!  The fish market better give better rewards for us to "AFFORD" to send boats out!!!  Balance things by decreasing upgrade and land expansion costs and fishing equipment costs...Just Sayin' 
    but they said they "lowered" the price of equipment and such..hmm i don't see it, still cost me lots of money to equip my boats :(  I agree with the decrease in upgrades and land expansion costs as well-that would be real nice if they ever thought of doing it?
  • CyberJohn (RO1)CyberJohn (RO1) RO1 Posts: 643
    Exquisite.  Had a good laugh reading it.

  • darleenh (US1)darleenh (US1) US1 Posts: 19

    I still don't have the fish market WHY WHY am I suppose to build it or a higher level on level 88 olaf has been fishing every hour the restaurant is level 4 tonight it will be level 5


  • Gincopr (US1)Gincopr (US1) US1 Posts: 46
    edited 17.08.2017
    Just getting 2 chum fish market orders doesn't do it for me on the fishing region farm!  Just sayin'! 
  • Just getting 2 chum fish market orders doesn't do it for me on the fishing region farm!  Just sayin'! 
    and the prizes suck- we get rakes and such from other events like HWE and championships..they should give us something we could use like specific chum or equipment for the boats..these people have lost their minds honestly!
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839


    more of the same BS in that communication

    They are feeding us more words, absolutely meaningless to those of us with more experience and who know what GGS are like, not to mention the many of us who can count and can see that we have zero profit / losses possible plus a huge waste of time sending boats back and forth

    While they keep talking rubbish, we are supposed to keep staring at these  tuna / herring pools and at a fish market that asks for totally different types of fish plus an enormity of chum. Chum that requires weeks to be produced plus it requires the fish we can no longer catch

    All together the best plan is to recoup lost time and gold by writing one or more tickets to support and asking to be refunded, because our gaming strategy was chosen based on the information we were given and not because we had any sort of illusions that things would be better than promised  (their last communication says they understand we are disillusioned)

    Also I agree with the majority of the people who posted here and feel that spending real money to buy gold in a game such as this one, where events and game parts can be changed with no notice  (see the shameful development of the Worldwide Championship for example) is too risky and this game is not worth real money



  • Sabirina (SKN1)Sabirina (SKN1) Posts: 2
    edited 17.08.2017

    Do not play any gold plaers !!! Before ggs will repair deep see fishng and return it back to us !


    Edit:  Please don't post all in capital letters.

  • CrazyArthur (US1)CrazyArthur (US1) US1 Posts: 79
    edited 17.08.2017
    • The possibility to directly sell chum and Deep Sea fish will be removed
    Not happy at all with that update. 
    We should have the choice to sell all fish or use it in fish market.
    After all the $$ we put to buy the boat in dockyard and the time needed, we should at least have the choice.

    Some of my friends want to leave the game after this update because it's non sense and ruined the game and the fun we had.

    GGS should think more before doing an update.
  • Thorim (US1)Thorim (US1) US1 Posts: 197
    Looks like they are saying we pulled a fast one on you and "messed *"you over with out so much as giving you a kiss and there is diddle squat you can do about it, and we ain't changing a thing so get over it.

    *was going to use different word but didn't want the post deleted...
  • Just Kar (US1)Just Kar (US1) US1 Posts: 340

    Excellent communiqué =

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/3607381/#Comment_3607381 

    Nice sneak peek at level 99, I really wanted 22 friggin drops of water!  No more gold for me.
  • 24-KL0V3R (US1)24-KL0V3R (US1) US1 Posts: 2,464
    edited 30.01.2023
    No CommentE!
    Post edited by 24-KL0V3R (US1) on
  • At least in this discussion you can find some answer from the moderators...
    At the Hispanoamerican forum and discussion, the only thing that has happened is that moderators are banning people and giving NO answers.

    At Spanish forum we are all talking about stop buying gold, not participating in the next tournaments and leaving the fishing zone abandoned.
    • The possibility to directly sell chum and Deep Sea fish will be removed
    Not happy at all with that update. 
    We should have the choice to sell all fish or use it in fish market.
    After all the $$ we put to buy the boat in dockyard and the time needed, we should at least have the choice.

    Some of my friends want to leave the game after this update because it's non sense and ruined the game and the fun we had.

    GGS should think more before doing an update.
    I agree with you on this, we SHOULD have the choice to sell but our words are falling on deaf ears my friend :(
  • Gincopr (US1)Gincopr (US1) US1 Posts: 46
    I think because we see the variety and rewards in the organic market we were all expecting that for the fish market as well... you start small and build up!!  Like we did on organic market!!  Wanted more variety for my first 2 fishing market contracts than 2 of the same just with different rewards.attached to them!  I got 2 contracts for collecting 10 tuna chum !!  Don't mind having to collect chum I will do it!!  Let's have good variety like we have with organic market..  maybe add fishing XP as rewards for contracts...
  • Spurgiukas (INT1)Spurgiukas (INT1) INT1 Posts: 235
  • My suggestion: Travel times as they were before update. Get rid of that fishmarket. Cut off 60% of fish pricing. Allow direct selling.  Simple and enough balanced.
  • JustMe (US1)JustMe (US1) US1 Posts: 491
    edited 17.08.2017
    @contrary (US1) A sad day indeed, I am really sorry to see this :(

    @Everyone, please do not despair yet, your feedback IS being read & discussed by the team & changes are always possible. Of course, things will not be changed back to exactly how they were before & from earlier posts, a lot of were already aware that something would change with the way the fishing was, but if you could continue to post you opinions on the specific things that you dislike or even like, that is the best way to get those things looked at again.

    WascallyWabbit Please don't further insult us with this comment.

    Where was your team, devs and the "numbers guy" BEFORE the DSF was rolled out? Even if you needed to use some of us as lab rats to observe how WE played it should have been done on the TEST server so people had a CHOICE and would know the DSF was in a BETA mode and subject to drastic changes at any given moment. 

    Where was your team devs and numbers guy BEFORE such drastic and abusive changes? You’re punishing us for playing with what you created for us. YOU GAVE US! And (virtually) dictated we use ; ie: HWFE and much needed cash flow. Happily we complied with much effort, time and real $$’s.  

    Your use of the splash screen to tell us NOW ex post facto the DSF has changed to its “final” version and no longer able to sell fish directly is more than insulting.

    Several times implementations have gone into effect only to have them so significantly altered and without notice to label GGS as scam company intent to legally defraud their customers. I have played software games for years and have never seen such blatant abuse of their customer base. 

    Given the poor planning (was there any??) and implementation of DSF to begin with; the radical and drastic "adjustments" were totally unnecessary and unwarranted and GGS knows that. There were SO MANY other solutions to resolve the “imbalance”.

    Your customers continue to BEG for rebalancing numerous imbalanced portions of the game. Your customers continue to BEG for FIXING numerous known GLTCHES before rolling out new content. Your customers continue to BEG to be allow to actually do something with “useless” items in the game that have little to no value for some/many no matter what “value” GGS considers them to be. Your customers BEG for actual customer support because we are not all idiots. Your customers BEG for the express use of the TEST SERVER for testing new material by players that want to test new content. 

    You have REFUSED to listen to your customers regarding the co-op village and the co-op village league which is pretty dead from what my admittedly limited observations on the USA server. 

    All I can say is act like an ethically responsible company not just at how much can we “legally” able to do (loosely used terminology here) and how much our customer base is willing to accept that we do. I think you have pushed the envelope pretty far.

    Act like a responsive company. Just because you have game “plan” (again loosely used terminology) doesn’t mean it works in the real world or is what drives your customer base. Your game should guide us in our game play not be dictatorial.

    Again all but one MO for the DSF market have been trashed as just not worth the time and effort no matter that I can still make somewhat of a profit. There will still be an odd one I will do. Any upgrades planned for those boats are now virtually done due to the too high cost $25 mil to go from lvl 4 to lvl 5 trawler and lack of ability to sell anything. I had thought this new – again not needed “new” market - was a way to sell the fish dishes instead of the insane “donation” amounts to Yarnuckle or just normal sales – sadly no.

    I will continue to play for now but nothing that has to do with how GGS wants me to play - the gold buying days are over. If I run out too bad so sad and I will either keep a fairly stagnant farm or quit. And yes I agree to tell GGS to delete my account and why. 

    Oh and BTW announcing prizes that never materialize or events that do not happen or are so screwed up is just a couple of unethical business practices implemented by GGS regularly. I wholeheartedly agree GGS needs to start at BIZ 101 and successfully COMPLETE all a business degree entails and your math guys all need to begin again with 1+1 = 2 because they are missing these basics. 

    Trash your "new" customer support because they are abysmal. As a long time buisness owner with a degree in business in the customer service and IT end I can honestly say you guys really don't have a clue in the least.   

     

     

  • APK (IN1)APK (IN1) Posts: 49
    ha ha.....Perfect!!!
  • Surely GGS could have/should have seen the "imbalance" they created within the first couple weeks.  The fact that this "rebalance" was done so much later is what really makes me angry.  After spending all the money/gold to upgrade the boats to the most efficient/profitable level and then have the changes we have now is at the very least unethical and perhaps even criminal.   It does feel intentional at times and makes me VERY skeptical about the future of the game.  
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    Exquisite.  Had a good laugh reading it.

    Me too @CyberJohn (RO1)  well some of us are not stupid and see the falseness of that communication. Although I am sure it was written for her not her fault this is her job she has to present what she is given.
  • TheGabi (US1)TheGabi (US1) US1 Posts: 117
    No matter how GGS tries to candy coat this with word salad and sweet syrup.  This update was horrible. This was not an adjustment, it was decimation.   This has in total "Ruined the Experience" for me and many others as these forums can attest.

    I have never blamed the moderators for this POS adjustment, they are just the means by which information from the Wizard is allowed to trickle down to the community as a whole.   I feel sorry for them, in all actuality and wonder how they can even carry on being the pawns you have set them to be.   It is surely a thankless job of shielding the wretched few who make the determinations. 

    I have ceased Premium Gold Purchases for the time being and when and if I do it will never be on the scale that I once did.   You can take that to the Bank !   

    Good Day or not. 
  • edited 17.08.2017
    Should be done by the trades description act  ' awesome prizes' a rake and a brush do not fulfill  the criteria! That will  go along way to help with the ludicrous amounts to upgrade.
    I now have just pools of tuna and herring and no orders for them..chum takes too long to produce.
    Come on GG get your head out of your a@&e . There are a lot of unhappy people out here. 
  • Exquisite.  Had a good laugh reading it.

    What a load of BS in this communiqué. Worthless to comment anything in it, but let me just say this:
    628 oysters and same amount of clams for 1 milion $. Does anyone of you know how much time it takes to catch them???

    Good balancing would be to reduce the selling price to 60% of the old price, and to let a player choose wheather he wants to sell it on the market and get some additional stuff or the usual way.

    After 4 years of active playing i think i just might be ready to say goodbye to the BigFarm for good.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 17.08.2017
    I think because we see the variety and rewards in the organic market we were all expecting that for the fish market as well... you start small and build up!!  Like we did on organic market!!  Wanted more variety for my first 2 fishing market contracts than 2 of the same just with different rewards.attached to them!  I got 2 contracts for collecting 10 tuna chum !!  Don't mind having to collect chum I will do it!!  Let's have good variety like we have with organic market..  maybe add fishing XP as rewards for contracts...

    LOL   you got now 2 contracts asking for 10 Tuna chum and these are contracts value "0"  (zero)

    Those 10 Tuna chum require 10 hours and 40 tuna to be produced,  the production of chum costs and so does catching the tuna 

    Can you imagine when a contract level 99 will ask for hundreds or for thousands chum ? How many weeks will it take to produce, and how much fish ? And cost ?  And for what?  Rakes ? Brushes ?

    What's the test server for ? The test server would have prevented all this disaster, but it's no longer in use, it has been detached from the other servers, so confident GGS is that we will keep carry on and they will have offended once again and walk away unpunished



  • I am so disappointed with this upgrade! When we could sell the fish, we had a fair chance to upgrade our farms. Now it's back to start, and even worse, because we need dollar to upgrade for the fishing to. I don't want to fish now, I'm not sure I want to play either....Please listen to the players, and give us back the opportunity to sell fish again! If you want more people to play this game, you need players to give great feedback, and I don't think you will get that now. You can keep the market, but please let us sell the fish if we want to do that!! 
  • I just had someone offer to sell me their farm, I offered 3 rakes & 7 brushes. fingers crossed that we get to the closing table. lol !!!!!!!!!


    You can have mine lmas 10 rakes & 20 kuma :-)
  • loron (GB1)loron (GB1) GB1 Posts: 58
    edited 17.08.2017
    So with the new statement GG have issued stating  the selling of fish from the fishing village will not be coming back as it will stagnate the game and make it  less challenging and less fun? what you REALLY mean was you realised players are not spending gold to buy their dollars are they?  therefore GG was not making any money out of it. THE BIGGEST thing that is destroying the game and making it VERY BORING is the fact everything can be brought with GOLD the Coop Challenge is now a joke it is all about who as the most money to buy gold due to the flash sales of rep points available. where is the challenge there?  and the new world challenge silver coins you earn to be able to buy new things well now you can buy them too with gold coins..There is no challenge left in this game who ever as the most money in real life is the one who will win all challenges in this game as GG are only about making money.  I for one will not be bothering with the silly little challenges any more nor will i be hopping around playing GG's money making tune thank you for opening my eyes to a game that died a few months ago when you first decided not only to have a coop challenge every 10 days  then opened the flash sales to buy the points and wheel of fortune for  getting them too. shame on you. :(:(
    Post edited by loron (GB1) on
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    To @artful (US1) as experiment I sent runabout and trawler both fully upgraded to shrimp pools this was the result 4 shrimp 4 clam 4 oyster from runabout  on trawler got 12.12 11  now did not load anything but are you really going to advocate sending them out  not bothering with this.  I feel used and abused by GGS  without lubricant. Enough said
  • Gincopr (US1)Gincopr (US1) US1 Posts: 46
    Disappointing to have 2 tuna chum contracts  and getting both with the same rewards attached. ...It's like when we get back to back missions!  frustrating is all !!   
  • whiziwig (US1)whiziwig (US1) US1 Posts: 1,262
    edited 17.08.2017
    wouldn't lowering amount we get for selling dsf plus having longer travel times be enough to rebalance things

    Just had a thought is it possible that when GG entered the amount for selling too many 000 were accidently added?
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