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Update August 16th - "Deep Sea Changes" - Discussion

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  • Hang on to your fish stocks people and don't empty your boats when they arrive back at the dockyard.

    Play the waiting game ........GGS has to do something about this mess.
  • Michiru (GB1)Michiru (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,239
    Deep sea fishing.. From the best part of the game to the worst.... How can they COMPLETELY stop the ability to sell fish altogether?? It makes NO Sense whatsoever, every farm product should be possible to be sold!!


  • fish/bait market?

    Why both. On a real market these things don't come together from the same shop/market are other store.

    Make one stand for bait and a stand for fish.

  • There are some saying the could make 100mil a day from fishing? I could barely make that in a week. I play as a way to relax and unwind. It took 34mil for one plot of land....one. It takes sometimes 24hrs to upgrade and we only get 1 slot. How about fixing that? I don't understand why it takes so long to upgrade one thing. Also putting all the different farms together so you're only able to upgrade one thing at a time. I was starting to have some fun again being able to earn good amounts of farm cash for upgrades that are only getting more and more expensive. I don't use the organic farm because it just doesn't seem profitable enough for me. I have trashed so many before I just gave up on it. I also don't care about the coins as I don't play that game. It's useless and other than giving gold every now and then, it's not worth playing. I don't know. if it wasn't for the nice people in my co-op I'd have forgotten your game a long time ago. I will also not spend another dollar on your game. 
    That 100 mill everyday was for the players with full developed dockyard and 10 or 12 trawlers at least level 4 or 5. 


    I had upgraded 12 trawlers, most to levels 5 and 6, plus two upgraded skips. I spent my real money for those upgrades. GGS knew exactly how much farm cash I would earn from this feature and I spent my real money in good faith. They KNEW we would spent a bunch of gold for these upgrades. This was all a planned scam, folks. If you, like I who spent money on the feature don't believe that you have been had, well....
  • Prince13 (INT1)Prince13 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 87

    just wanted to share this with you GGS guys

    I lost the desire to play  after the " update " and did not do much playing after it

    one of my high levels friends just told me she will not play much anymore because of it  too

    so keep up the good work guys !!

  • Graciemi (US1)Graciemi (US1) US1 Posts: 23
    I have deleted every fish contract that doesn't show me a profit.  Have yet to find one worth sending a boat out for an have noticed that most contracts don't offer me any money.  So how do I pay to equip the boat?  I don't so done fishing here as is most of my co op.
  • Corvid (GB1)Corvid (GB1) GB1 Posts: 625
    Hang on to your fish stocks people and don't empty your boats when they arrive back at the dockyard.

    Play the waiting game ........GGS has to do something about this mess.
    it goes something like this

    'well the sh*t has hit the fan, as expected'
    'of course, don't worry, let them blow themselves out'
    'i know, but it's more than we've seen before'
    'doesnt matter, there's already a thread on getting the best from the fish market, some are already coming around'
    'so you think it's a matter of days'
    'give it a week or two and things will return to normal'
    'so we just wait?'
    'hell no, i want the numbers on our next project and gold projections'
  • CyberJohn (RO1)CyberJohn (RO1) RO1 Posts: 643
    Official anouncement on romanian forum from our mod.


    These changes in the fishing area are permanent and will not change, this is the final decision!
    As for the fish market, our balancing team is on vacation, so we will not be able to make any changes very soon, but we will try to rebalance the contracts from the fish market!

  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124

    This whole fishing thing is a real shame.  Not being able to see the fish at all is a real problem.  I don't mind the game being a bit rebalanced, the amount you could make from the fish did make other parts of the game pointless, but I really don't like not being able to sell the fish at all. 

    I also like the organic market on main farms, I am not in a co-op so this is a way of me making bigger profits for my produce, but I don't like the fish market so far,  Every single order that I have had I have been asked for specialist chum.  This takes ages to make and means that I can send off an order about once a day if I don't use gold.  I don't want or need to use gold to use the fish market, I don't need the dollars that much, so now I have a ton of boats, all merrily getting fish, and pretty much no use for them because fulfilling orders is dependent on chum production.  And I can't sell my fish elsewhere, so why even bother to fish for them?

    The new timings for boats have really made fishing duller too, and made it more difficult to fulfil orders.  I sent my boats out last night, they are normally back mid-morning the following day, which suited my game play.  This morning my boats are all still out, so there is nothing for me to do in the docks at all.  Furthermore, most my orders want the oysters, clams and shrimp, in quite large numbers (it would need about 3-4 pools being cleared to do it).  I haven't got any of those pools at the moment, and because the boats take so long to get back, no hope of one soon.  So my fish market is completely grid locked, I won't be getting the fish it wants until late evening or maybe tomorrow.  Fulfilling one market order a day means the fish market will take FOREVER to upgrade and become profitable enough to bother with.  Given that at the moment the rewards are mainly measly game prizes and my market is on 0% profit mark up, with no hope of this improving at a reasonable pace, the fish have become pretty pointless. 

    A massive palaver, loads of unhappy players - all that needed to be done was to introduce it the way they wanted it to start with.  Giving something and taking it away is a ridiculous way to develop a game.  And if you must do it this way, just be more moderate - all that needed to change was the price of the fish and crew/equipment needed lowering.  It was that simple.



  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124
    Meant sell the fish not see them.  I can still see them, albeit that now all I can see is Herring and Tuna.
  • PlayerSamedi (INT1)PlayerSamedi (INT1) INT1 Posts: 206
    edited 17.08.2017
    Official anouncement on romanian forum from our mod.


    These changes in the fishing area are permanent and will not change, this is the final decision!
    As for the fish market, our balancing team is on vacation, so we will not be able to make any changes very soon, but we will try to rebalance the contracts from the fish market!

    Wow, they are on vacation??? How very convenient. That will be their last vacation out of MY money.

    I dont want fish market, and i dont want rebalancing orders on it.
    They can take it and put it where the sun doesnt shine!
    Post edited by PlayerSamedi (INT1) on
  • And they can rotate on their flags on my posts. The truth must hurt. Again, this was a premeditated run on our wallets. Dirty business. Does anyone honestly believe GGS didn't know how much cash we would earn from this feature that THEY created? Seriously. I was born at night/not last night. They dangled the profits under our noses to get us to upgrade those boats and fast the upgrades with gold. Shame on you, GGS. If you think this is "abuse", do what you will. It's all true and you know it. You'll never get another dime from me regardless.
  • Hey everyone!

    I don't understand, how nobody understands. I'm confused...b/c if GGS had left it the way it was, the game would be more or less be over..? What happens when you get to the top and there is no where to go..then what?
    and then everyone else gets to the top, and we're all even...then what? 
    Am I missing something?

    everything, pretty much, your logic is flawed tho i understand what you're trying to say 
  • Official anouncement on romanian forum from our mod.


    These changes in the fishing area are permanent and will not change, this is the final decision!
    As for the fish market, our balancing team is on vacation, so we will not be able to make any changes very soon, but we will try to rebalance the contracts from the fish market!
    Let them stay on vacation. They did a poor job. 


  • I don't want to speak for anyone but myself, I don't mind BF changing the game from time to time, but this change was handled wrong!!!! I had ~ 650 Million in Dock fishing $$ that I made before this change and BF just wiped that $$ off my books!!!!! 
  • Corvid (GB1)Corvid (GB1) GB1 Posts: 625
    Official anouncement on romanian forum from our mod.


    These changes in the fishing area are permanent and will not change, this is the final decision!
    As for the fish market, our balancing team is on vacation, so we will not be able to make any changes very soon, but we will try to rebalance the contracts from the fish market!
    lmao

    a bit cowardly to spin the old 'vacation' line

    next it'll be a dodgy stomach

  • I was concerned about the changes, but look.... for 390 shrimp & 390 clam I get....
    No Cash
    2 Rakes
    1 Brush.

    How good is that???
  • RowdyRac (FormerMod)RowdyRac (FormerMod) Posts: 1,250
    edited 17.08.2017
    Ok, I see APK (INT 1) griped....and also see that he/she was awarded with a tricked up contract...It fooled me too for a while, until Damaria3 pointed out the comma error.  I hope APK did not fall for that stunt!
    It is not a trick or a stunt.  The players you are referring to plays on the IN1 server - so Big Farm writes the currency in the way that is known and used in that country.  The Indian numbering system uses separators differently from the international norm.

    form Wikipedia:
    The Indian numbering system is used in India as well as in Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan. The terms lakh or lac (100,000 or 1,00,000 in the Indian system) and crore (10,000,000 or 1,00,00,000 in the Indian system)[1] are used in Indian English to express large numbers. For example, in India 150,000 rupees becomes 1.5 lakh rupees, written as ₹1,50,000 or INR 1,50,000, while 30,000,000 (thirty million) rupees becomes 3 crore rupees, written as ₹3,00,00,000 with commas at the thousand, lakh, and crore levels, and 1,000,000,000 (one billion) rupees (one hundred crore rupees or one arab ارب ) is written ₹1,00,00,00,000.

    This was invented many, many centuries ago ... but not by GGS  :)
    Post edited by RowdyRac (FormerMod) on
  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124

    I was concerned about the changes, but look.... for 390 shrimp & 390 clam I get....
    No Cash
    2 Rakes
    1 Brush.

    How good is that???
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  • Graciemi (US1)Graciemi (US1) US1 Posts: 23
    Hey everyone!

    I don't understand, how nobody understands. I'm confused...b/c if GGS had left it the way it was, the game would be more or less be over..? What happens when you get to the top and there is no where to go..then what?
    and then everyone else gets to the top, and we're all even...then what? 
    Am I missing something?

    everything, pretty much, your logic is flawed tho i understand what you're trying to say 
    The game wouldn't be over.  They could have enlarged the farm areas for more growth, adjusted costs so that it was still a profit to send a boat out but not as large a profit.  They have the option of expanding the game for large farms so the building up of your farm is still there. In cyber world options are limitless, it is just their ability to think outside the box that has issues here.  Why couldn't they have farm challenges for the huge farms?  Special challenges for them? Different farm equipment that you need on a large farm?  Ideas abound if you are about the game an not just the money.  They don't really wan tto be creative, they want the money.
  • I am NOT happy with this change.  Slowing down progression increases frustration which promotes spending coins.  It it obvious this change is motivated by money...  I'm done spending money on this 
    "experience".
  • They shouldn't have set the selling price for deep sea fish so high in the first place. It takes too long to make enough chum to fill the orders; and so far I've been paid in rakes and brushes. What is the storage capacity for fish and are surpluses sold?
  • muggle1 said it: "all that needed to change was the price of the fish and crew/equipment needed lowering.  It was that simple."


    I agree.

  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124

    One of my boats just got back.  And guess what pool replaced it?  No cheating by looking at my docks.



    Herring and Tuna.  Bet nobody guessed it.

  • I just had someone offer to sell me their farm, I offered 3 rakes & 7 brushes. fingers crossed that we get to the closing table. lol !!!!!!!!!
  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124
    I must say that our disgust at the prizes on offer at the market is making me laugh out loud, which is the only positive thing about the changes so far.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    No point being negative about it anymore.....the balancers are "on vacation", what a load of crap! They will introduce a new event soon to try and distract us from the fact we have been scammed this whole time.

    Fishing equipment/crew we WON in events can't even be sold, just deleted. Players not being credited the 10 fuku coins anymore when event arrives, the drop rates of those same coins now virtually non-existent. These changes were not even announced and i'm sure someone will come out and say its a display error/bug or just lie and say nothing has been changed. After all this time still no gold lock and popup windows still conveniently appearing as you collect produce making it highly likely to accidentally spend gold. Nearly everything brought into this game lately is there to scam us out of our gold/money....its all one big lie, GGS business ethic is smellier than the fish that will now sit around unused in my dockyard.
  • janajana (GB1)janajana (GB1) GB1 Posts: 34
     meaning of balance...
    1.a situation in which different elements are equal or in the correct proportions.
    2.put (something) in a steady position so that it does not fall.
    3.offset or compare the value of  one thing  with another.

    Business ethics ...
    Business ethics  examines ethical principles and moral or ethical problems that arise in a business environment. It applies to ALL aspects of business conduct and is relevant to the conduct of individuals and entire organizations.
    Acting in an ethical way involves distinguishing between “right” and “wrong” and then making the “right” choice.

    my “right” choice is the only possible, stop buying gold until this problem is sorted.
    this way i put everything in right balance too... 
  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124
    They shouldn't have set the selling price for deep sea fish so high in the first place. It takes too long to make enough chum to fill the orders; and so far I've been paid in rakes and brushes. What is the storage capacity for fish and are surpluses sold?

    I think the question should be what is the storage capacity on rakes and brushes and are surpluses sold.  I don't want to lose any, I need to build another storage barn.
  • trawlers out for their last time sold everthing  lol

    trawlers will be demolished tomorrow at least i wont have to equip them anymore lol 


    happy hmmmm  fishing guys 

    when the dock yard was included they should have said 

    Guys were releasing this early but  its not finished market isnt done but when it is you wont be able to sell fish directly 
    that would have been too easy of course

    the back lash from this update will be huge i hope ggs have somewhere to hide


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