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even in my short time here it's pretty obvious someone has entered into the arena of BF management with a mission to 'increase profits' etc, insert any bs business jargon you like - it'll probably fit

just a head's up, he/she is doing a terrible job

you may not think you will lose players hand over fist, you can and you will at this rate

longer term players with many years invested in the game, who have incredible farms after sooooo much hard work will be your staple and you probably think they will forever be your cash cows and you can squeeze as much as you like cos they won't turn their back on all that investment and time and effort

well you're gonna lose short term players (already have), you're gonna lose medium time players (i've been doing it a year, so i fit that demographic) and yes, once your long term players decide they've had enough, it's all over and you won't turn that around

the debacle of the WC wheel of fortune was enough for some and had many of us glancing at the door

this ridiculous turn around of the dockyard and your, frankly, insulting lies about the original format it and this 'organic market part II' was supposed to have been and is only now be fully implemented, are shameless in their transparency and yes, insults the intelligence and insight you think we lack

to nerf is one thing but you have lobtomised your last two new bright and shiney things with a very clear and easy to read motive

i suspect the game is doomed in the hands of the current management and the direction they've chosen

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  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,423
    edited 15.08.2017
    So what I understand, from others' comments, is that the fish we catch in the Deep Sea area will pretty much be relegated to a bunch of worthless dung....that is unless we through it to the DS Market for a few paltry coins and a little bit of $....wow, big deal....Now if we were offered say 1000 gold coins for filling the DS Market orders, now your'e talking good stuff!  :p


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  • Tonia2 (INT1)Tonia2 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 45
    I would like to know will there bi such re-balancing in hard work fishing event? It is now the only reason for me to fish at all
    Tonia2 @ WWW 1
  • Corvid (GB1)Corvid (GB1) GB1 Posts: 625
    longer trip times announced as more re-balancing, cos i presume their game testers were pretty lame in how they set their boats up, my trawlers never stop coming and going

    so yeah, FHW will probably be more like the normal HW but we won't know to what extent until we see the boat turn around times among other things, but i think you can safely say it wont be a positive change for the player

    what they'd like you to do, of course, is spend gold to return your boats quicker - that'll be the motive behind the change

  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    Am a gold buyer but have never and will never spend gold to speed up a boat  people the prize in top league two gold mining licence so get 4 thousand in gold less than 5 dollars worth NOT a big deal.  I play less and less time in this game they are literally pushing me out the door  am at the point now could care less about the HW events  alot of frenzy for what as I said four k in gold  not for me not anymore
  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,423
    edited 15.08.2017
    Yes, I imagine there is an explosive uproar happening in all the forums in all the countries....But will GGS hear? or do they use some cotton and wax to stuff their ears and go on about their business?  Do they truly care about us, the players? They say they do and that they want feedback, but do they really?  Time will see.  :/


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  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    edited 16.08.2017
    Well isnt that what their job is so why didnt they know  glad they are not working for NASA, guess this is why we get so many bugs.  Sorry when yr greed causes you to act in an unethical manner,  when you selling a game that is soposse to be for fun and enjoyment you need to be able to take your lumps and I know it is a lot to hope for see the error of their ways and improve and fix what is broken.  
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  • FarmerCli (US1)FarmerCli (US1) US1 Posts: 2,423
    One positive thing that will happen, the gearing up of my boats (I used a calculator to get exactness) for my 14 trawlers will be a breeze.  This used to take me at least 30 minutes to get them all properly geared up (I really did not mind doing this).  But now when the change comes tomorrow, it will be a snap....I will throw the calculator aside, click on a pool and send an empty boat to that pool and let it get whatever it can get, because now quantity and timing will no long matter....as with the regular Organic Market, I take my time filling orders...no big rush...easy!


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  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,580
    edited 16.08.2017
    @Corvid (GB1) who said "I used to work in the games industry, any decent tester (which arent specialist tech heads with some great acumen, they're simply gamers who grind away and their pay typically isnt much above minimum wage) would have ripped the dockyard to pieces in a day, especially with access to 'enhanced' versions via developers tools/simulations"

    What would they have done with the Village"? LOL!
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  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    Corvid I think you are my favorite poster right now  love it and so true  they would have give it back. 
  • @Corvid (GB1)  I feel the same way you do about the "re-balance" of the Dockyard. The developers had all the numbers in front of them when they designed the Dockyard and I'm assuming they can do mathematics.  ;)
    Totally agree.

    Does anybody remember Meela, "The Numbers Guy"?


    Why don't you invite him here, to explain to all of us what does it mean "a balanced economy in BF"?
    And why "the direct selling of deep sea fishing products would cause harm to this balance in the long run", while the astronomic costs for the Farm Laboratory (just to name one of the very expensive features of the game) didn't?
    Or any questions about the numbers ...;)
     https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/147658/hi-im-meela-the-numbers-guy#latest 




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  • I would like to know will there bi such re-balancing in hard work fishing event? It is now the only reason for me to fish at all
    Please don't give them any more ideas @Tonia2 (INT1)

    someone said on another thread, the moral is NEVER give them praise or tell them what you like --> it will be the next nerf target
  • That's me done with this game - it will rebalance my life. 
  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
     momrulz (US1) said:
    I would like to know will there bi such re-balancing in hard work fishing event? It is now the only reason for me to fish at all
    Please don't give them any more ideas @Tonia2 (INT1)

    someone said on another thread, the moral is NEVER give them praise or tell them what you like --> it will be the next nerf target
    Isn't is SAD and disgusting that this is all too true. 
  • Ariel Hsu (INT1)Ariel Hsu (INT1) Posts: 44
    edited 16.08.2017
    I'm sorry to disagree but I find you all desperately negative. Earning $50 million a day made the whole of the rest of the game completely pointless, what's the point in running the Shop, only $3 million a day, a waste of time.
    If the dockyard had been implemented like this in the first place we would all have been delighted; $10-20 million a day; wonderful. An interestingly different mechanism, instead of aiming to empty fishing holes asap we are targeting our fishing to complete contracts asap. Very different from the other market where we are really only selling surplus after the other farming needs have been supplied.
    Yes, we have been spoiled; no, I don't wish to give back the $3 billion in my account but this looks like an interestingly different challenge to me. (if I wanted an easy game I'd play tic-tac-toe)

    This is a problem of working things order.
    Same terrible issue the edge plant penalty. 

    They are doing backward business.

    It is easy for the frugal to become extravagant,but very difficult to reverse the process.

    I've care less when they change the countdown timer of the edge plant penalty. Didn't log in for a while. Till I found the profit from dockyard could cover the useless job center. So I started log in regularly but found their players have reduced in a quite amount recently.

    With this new update, I'll have to say, sorry I don't have  to spend my time and money to get unhappy.



    PS. I actually pretty agree with Corvid's message
  • artful (US1)artful (US1) US1 Posts: 6,580
    edited 17.08.2017
    I'm sorry to disagree but I find you all desperately negative. Earning $50 million a day made the whole of the rest of the game completely pointless, what's the point in running the Shop, only $3 million a day, a waste of time.
    If the dockyard had been implemented like this in the first place we would all have been delighted; $10-20 million a day; wonderful. An interestingly different mechanism, instead of aiming to empty fishing holes asap we are targeting our fishing to complete contracts asap. Very different from the other market where we are really only selling surplus after the other farming needs have been supplied.
    Yes, we have been spoiled; no, I don't wish to give back the $3 billion in my account but this looks like an interestingly different challenge to me. (if I wanted an easy game I'd play tic-tac-toe)
    It wasn't pointless if you're still building your farms.  Some of us were just beginning to earn a couple million through fishing, and that money was helping our other farms.  Not every player has maxed out their options.  This has been a severe blow to many.
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  • IAmRoman (US1)IAmRoman (US1) US1 Posts: 2,779
    edited 16.08.2017
    instead of boring easy money, the game is back to working a strategy which is the way it should be...  and no I am not giving back my billions either! LOL

    don't love the change but will work with it.... I still think we should be able  to sell the fish outright as well like all the other produce... even if they reduce the prices...

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  • IAmRoman (US1)IAmRoman (US1) US1 Posts: 2,779
    yes you did @Corvid (GB1)

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