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  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,566
    edited 02.06.2017
    Those are enormous quantities Gavin ! Once the red Friendship meter on the right is at the top, donating more achieves nothing. Donate 10 at a time till it reaches the top (100 - 150 in total)

    I have to donate at least 100 at a time til I get the button to grey out... and usually give about 1500 to 2000 items total. I am guessing this is due to level of jetty, amount you have donated to ship repair etc.

    And I too would like to know What the do the green "+1" indicators mean?

    the +1 means you will get 1 more of each item (have no idea how the items are determined to start with)... again probably has to do with level of jetty... still learning

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  • dillweed (US1)dillweed (US1) US1 Posts: 3
    how long dose it take for a fishing hole to restock?
    i need shrimp and cant find any, the holes are empty, cant even get my boats on them now.

  • JVD (US1)JVD (US1) US1 Posts: 2,566
    @dillweed (US1)  the holes do not restock... they disappear and appear elsewhere with different fish... generally this supposedly happens every 24 hours.  I have had them disappear just by switching farms, guess the timing is right. There will be times you will not have every fish available to you in the 6 open holes... I have had 4 lobster holes at one time and no swordfish holes... it is all random... 

    just switch farms, close your browser, reopen  the game... who knows what you will find next time you go to the fishing region... IMHO

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  • dillweed (US1)dillweed (US1) US1 Posts: 3
    ok thanks
  • KarenKay (US1)KarenKay (US1) Posts: 1,036
    Those are enormous quantities Gavin ! Once the red Friendship meter on the right is at the top, donating more achieves nothing. Donate 10 at a time till it reaches the top (100 - 150 in total)
    BTW, I put together a list of the amounts of bakery/flower shop items Yarnacle wants to go from 0% to 100% friendship; you should never have to donate more than this to get to 100%.  If you start at more than 0% (such as from donating wood, nails, or whatever), you won't even have to donate THIS many.

    Hint: COOKIES are the absolute best.  Only takes 5 to go from 0% to 100%.  Only takes 4 to go from 25% to 100%. :)



    Avoid Carp Patties. :tongue:


    This must change by level or coop size.  At level 3, it takes 12 cookies to get to 100%, but on the bright side, if your coop completes the repairs quickly, as in less than 20 minutes is our norm, you get extra gifts.  I currently get 21 personal gifts, which has been very helpful in my quest for toolboxes, lol. 

    Many thanks to farmerjohn 22 for this creation  :)
  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Those are enormous quantities Gavin ! Once the red Friendship meter on the right is at the top, donating more achieves nothing. Donate 10 at a time till it reaches the top (100 - 150 in total)
    BTW, I put together a list of the amounts of bakery/flower shop items Yarnacle wants to go from 0% to 100% friendship; you should never have to donate more than this to get to 100%.  If you start at more than 0% (such as from donating wood, nails, or whatever), you won't even have to donate THIS many.

    Hint: COOKIES are the absolute best.  Only takes 5 to go from 0% to 100%.  Only takes 4 to go from 25% to 100%. :)



    Avoid Carp Patties. :tongue:


    This must change by level or coop size.  At level 3, it takes 12 cookies to get to 100%, but on the bright side, if your coop completes the repairs quickly, as in less than 20 minutes is our norm, you get extra gifts.  I currently get 21 personal gifts, which has been very helpful in my quest for toolboxes, lol. 
    Good info Karen, thank you. I wasn't sure if the numbers would change with a higher level Jetty.  Will have to quantify my statement that these numbers are probably only good with a Level 1 Jetty then.

    Ugh.. Not looking forward to upgrading the Jetty then. SOB already wants 3,000+ nails every 12 hours, I'd hate to see how many he wants @ Level 3.

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  • KarenKay (US1)KarenKay (US1) Posts: 1,036

    Last supply box, and yes the amount of nails goes up and up and up.  I'll grab a screenshot of the amounts tonight and share later.

    Many thanks to farmerjohn 22 for this creation  :)
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    Looks like this thread turned from deep sea fishing to Yarnacle debate. As if forums were not in enough mess already. :)

    @Marowit @Pichu (or any player paying more attention then me) Question: Has there been unanounced tweak on deap see fish quantities? I didn't pay much attention cause work load left me with near zero gaming time for last few days but the number of fish caught is much lower now then it was during FHWE. Although it looks like previous multplied catch was a bug and current state is correction to intended function, I didn't see any anouncement of this major reduction in quantities. It would be in general well over 50 % reduction in dollar gain and swimming in cash could turn into mere wading through shallow knee deep cash waters only. :) .

  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Looks like this thread turned from deep sea fishing to Yarnacle debate. As if forums were not in enough mess already. :)

    @Marowit @Pichu (or any player paying more attention then me) Question: Has there been unanounced tweak on deap see fish quantities? I didn't pay much attention cause work load left me with near zero gaming time for last few days but the number of fish caught is much lower now then it was during FHWE. Although it looks like previous multplied catch was a bug and current state is correction to intended function, I didn't see any anouncement of this major reduction in quantities. It would be in general well over 50 % reduction in dollar gain and swimming in cash could turn into mere wading through shallow knee deep cash waters only. :) .

    It was definitely a bug.  The way it was before, you could have 100 storage (easy on a trawler), but bring home 300 fish by not equipping any fishing gear (and frankly, I think that's STILL bugged, how can you catch ANY fish with no gear, not even a fishing pole? You might as well be on a pleasure cruise) :)

    Cash still won't be a problem - a single Level 1 Trawler can bring back 118 Swordfish, worth $5,568,184 in around 15 hours or less, almost all profit.  Multiply that by 10 trawlers, and that's $50 million every 15 hours (long as you have enough Swordfish, anyway). Even if you have to settle for Salmon or Cod, it's still a metric ton of cash every day.   (Heck, it may be TOO much cash, I'd like to see what @Meela has to say about it since he's our numbers guy) :)

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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,197
    Looks like this thread turned from deep sea fishing to Yarnacle debate. As if forums were not in enough mess already. :)

    @Marowit @Pichu (or any player paying more attention then me) Question: Has there been unanounced tweak on deap see fish quantities? I didn't pay much attention cause work load left me with near zero gaming time for last few days but the number of fish caught is much lower now then it was during FHWE. Although it looks like previous multplied catch was a bug and current state is correction to intended function, I didn't see any anouncement of this major reduction in quantities. It would be in general well over 50 % reduction in dollar gain and swimming in cash could turn into mere wading through shallow knee deep cash waters only. :) .

    It was definitely a bug.  The way it was before, you could have 100 storage (easy on a trawler), but bring home 300 fish by not equipping any fishing gear (and frankly, I think that's STILL bugged, how can you catch ANY fish with no gear, not even a fishing pole? You might as well be on a pleasure cruise) :)

    Cash still won't be a problem - a single Level 1 Trawler can bring back 118 Swordfish, worth $5,568,184 in around 15 hours or less, almost all profit.  Multiply that by 10 trawlers, and that's $50 million every 15 hours (long as you have enough Swordfish, anyway). Even if you have to settle for Salmon or Cod, it's still a metric ton of cash every day.   (Heck, it may be TOO much cash, I'd like to see what @Meela has to say about it since he's our numbers guy) :)

    But there are not enough swordfish.  I have fleet of trawlers now (though most at level 3).  You get lobsters and crustaceons a lot, and you have to either fish those spots until they are empty or wait 24 hours.  So the cash, while very nice, won't be nearly as super-abundant as that.
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  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Looks like this thread turned from deep sea fishing to Yarnacle debate. As if forums were not in enough mess already. :)

    @Marowit @Pichu (or any player paying more attention then me) Question: Has there been unanounced tweak on deap see fish quantities? I didn't pay much attention cause work load left me with near zero gaming time for last few days but the number of fish caught is much lower now then it was during FHWE. Although it looks like previous multplied catch was a bug and current state is correction to intended function, I didn't see any anouncement of this major reduction in quantities. It would be in general well over 50 % reduction in dollar gain and swimming in cash could turn into mere wading through shallow knee deep cash waters only. :) .

    It was definitely a bug.  The way it was before, you could have 100 storage (easy on a trawler), but bring home 300 fish by not equipping any fishing gear (and frankly, I think that's STILL bugged, how can you catch ANY fish with no gear, not even a fishing pole? You might as well be on a pleasure cruise) :)

    Cash still won't be a problem - a single Level 1 Trawler can bring back 118 Swordfish, worth $5,568,184 in around 15 hours or less, almost all profit.  Multiply that by 10 trawlers, and that's $50 million every 15 hours (long as you have enough Swordfish, anyway). Even if you have to settle for Salmon or Cod, it's still a metric ton of cash every day.   (Heck, it may be TOO much cash, I'd like to see what @Meela has to say about it since he's our numbers guy) :)

    But there are not enough swordfish.  I have fleet of trawlers now (though most at level 3).  You get lobsters and crustaceons a lot, and you have to either fish those spots until they are empty or wait 24 hours.  So the cash, while very nice, won't be nearly as super-abundant as that.
    Just luck of the draw I guess. I've got 3 spots with Swordfish in them right now, and a ton of Lobster, Tuna & Herring. Even a trawler full of Herring is worth around $1.5 Million & Up.

    It'll take me a couple of weeks of tracking (I track all my fish on a weekly basis), but it wouldn't surprise me to see upwards of $15 million a day from Deep Sea Fishing.  I've made $25 million from it just in the last 3 days and I just started building my Trawler fleet yesterday. :)

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  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,197
    Southern (US1) said:

    The green +1's indicate how many rewards you get.  Since there's only 9 slots, they use the +1's to indicate 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, or 16 rewards (max on a level 1 Jetty is 16 rewards).  You'll notice on the screenshot that Gavin posted there are 9 slots, and (7) +1's.  That's a total of 16 rewards.



    Count up all the rewards.. 5+1+1+1+2+2+2+1+1 = 16

    Quantities will vary every time the boat comes in, but there should always be 16 (so long as the friendship meter is maxxed @ 100% and there's 7 green +1's). :)



    We have a level 2 boat and I usually get 16, in the way that you described.

    (The nails for upgrading the boat from 2 to 3 would be 508,000.  I have mentioned the absurdity of this in the past, but GGS has thus far overlooked it.)
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  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    edited 02.06.2017
    Looks like this thread turned from deep sea fishing to Yarnacle debate. As if forums were not in enough mess already. :)

    @Marowit @Pichu (or any player paying more attention then me) Question: Has there been unanounced tweak on deap see fish quantities? I didn't pay much attention cause work load left me with near zero gaming time for last few days but the number of fish caught is much lower now then it was during FHWE. Although it looks like previous multplied catch was a bug and current state is correction to intended function, I didn't see any anouncement of this major reduction in quantities. It would be in general well over 50 % reduction in dollar gain and swimming in cash could turn into mere wading through shallow knee deep cash waters only. :) .

    It was definitely a bug.  The way it was before, you could have 100 storage (easy on a trawler), but bring home 300 fish by not equipping any fishing gear (and frankly, I think that's STILL bugged, how can you catch ANY fish with no gear, not even a fishing pole? You might as well be on a pleasure cruise) :)

    Cash still won't be a problem - a single Level 1 Trawler can bring back 118 Swordfish, worth $5,568,184 in around 15 hours or less, almost all profit.  Multiply that by 10 trawlers, and that's $50 million every 15 hours (long as you have enough Swordfish, anyway). Even if you have to settle for Salmon or Cod, it's still a metric ton of cash every day.   (Heck, it may be TOO much cash, I'd like to see what @Meela has to say about it since he's our numbers guy) :)
    Thanks mate. :) I know you are our fishing specialist and I can trust your data. :) I haven't got that far yet. My best boat so far is Norfolk. I'm one of those few remaining who still have to work to make their living. :)

    I don't think fishing "without equipment" is a bug. See Marowit explanation a few posts above, which sounds meaningfull to me. You get bits with just a boat (basic crew and gear included), or a lot more if you bother with the "extra" equipment hassle. I think many more would ignore the deep fishing if you couldn't fish without extra gear. I haven't bothered with it either yet. All I had time for so far was just building, upgrading and sending "empty" boats.

    https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/3539386/#Comment_3539386

  • Wons (AU1)Wons (AU1) AU1 Posts: 219
    Is there a way of determining how long it takes a boat to get to a fishing location? I see time saved with the various people but not times to each spot. I presume each location and each type boat will be different but there is nothing about that in the game.
    Hi YodellingDuck , I couldn't see anywhere that you got an answer to this question so: If you go to the fishing spot and click on it, it shows you at the top how long it takes to travel to the spot. :)
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  • my 2 fishing locations r not reset since 2 days
    stil those r empty....pl guide what to do

    tried loggin in logging out many times
    tried wtiching farms so many times nothig hapened
  • Those are enormous quantities Gavin ! Once the red Friendship meter on the right is at the top, donating more achieves nothing. Donate 10 at a time till it reaches the top (100 - 150 in total)
    BTW, I put together a list of the amounts of bakery/flower shop items Yarnacle wants to go from 0% to 100% friendship; you should never have to donate more than this to get to 100%.  If you start at more than 0% (such as from donating wood, nails, or whatever), you won't even have to donate THIS many.

    Hint: COOKIES are the absolute best.  Only takes 5 to go from 0% to 100%.  Only takes 4 to go from 25% to 100%. :)



    Avoid Carp Patties. :tongue:

    {Note: Per Karen's post below, these numbers are probably only valid with a Level 1 Jetty. Or maybe Co-Op size. Will take more investigation to make sure which one} :)
    Very helpful, deserves a seperate thread :)

    would be great if you can add sell values next to them too, so we can find the cheapest donation amount (if not, i will do it when I have time)
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,197
    Southern (US1) said:

    16k nails. Every 12 hours. Hoooooooly Moley.  Yeah, that boat would sink in my Co-Op. lol :)
    But do you need to do them?  My coop unlocked the second row of donation items with only donating a few nails and mostly just side crops.  We hardly ever donate anything close to a majority of the nails to the repair.
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  • Southern (US1)Southern (US1) US1 Posts: 3,268
    Southern (US1) said:

    16k nails. Every 12 hours. Hoooooooly Moley.  Yeah, that boat would sink in my Co-Op. lol :)
    But do you need to do them?  My coop unlocked the second row of donation items with only donating a few nails and mostly just side crops.  We hardly ever donate anything close to a majority of the nails to the repair.
    Maybe.  There doesn't seem to really be a difference between 0% (FULLY repaired) and 10% (MOSTLY repaired); he's still on the 6 hour schedule, and all the rewards seem to be there (the 3 common rewards, and the 16 personal ones).  So it's possible that if you donate everything else (and get him to 10% or below), you might be able to get away with not donating the nails.. We'd probably need someone with a Level 3 Jetty (like Karen) to confirm that though. :)

    Oh, I can think of one difference. If you FULLY repair him within 60 minutes, you get an extra 1 (or 2) common (Co-Op) rewards.  You'd definitely lose those extra rewards (not that I think anyone would care, one or two less seeds. Big whoop. :smile:)

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  • Hi,

    I'm facing a little problem with the travel times to go fishing.
    Normally, it's easy to understand and calculate : 
      2 times the normal time travel (from dockyard to fishing place or the travel back)
    - 2 times the reduction (that from the boat itself and the optional by crew members added)
    + the effective fishing time
    = total time

    That's what I used before, but someone wrote me a message having difficulties to get the right time, seeing a difference between the outside calculus and the in game time that the boat show when departing.

    And I've got the same problem when I tried to calculate on paper and compare it with the in game numbers.

    If I take a level one motorboat the reduction is naturally of 30 min, the fishing localtion has a 1:37:30 of normal time travel

    (1:37:30 is 97 minutes and 30 seconds, 1:42:00 is 102 minutes)

    simple travel time then is 97:30 minus 30:00 = 67:30
    multiplying that 67:30 by 2 for the round trip and we get 135 minutes
    then we need to add the fishing time of 102 minutes, we get at the end 237 minutes or 3:57:00

    that's the calculus, but when I sent the boat, and immediately did a sprint screen, I got a very different time in game


    The problem is getting deeper with changing an option in the same boat by a crew member to reduce the travel time.

    (1:37:30 is 97 minutes and 30 seconds, 1:42:00 is 102 minutes)

    simple travel time then is 97:30 minus 39:00 = 58:30
    multiplying that 58:30 by 2 for the round trip and we get 117 minutes
    then we need to add the fishing time of 102 minutes, we get at the end 219 minutes or 3:39:00

    But again, I've gone back to testing in game and immediately used the sprint screen, and we're far from that theorical time.


    In the theorical calculus the difference between the 2 situations is good, 2 times the 9 minutes reduce the time travel by 18 minutes (going from 3 hours and 57 minutes to 3 hours and 39 minutes).
    With the in game displays shown here there's not a 18 minutes difference between the 2 as it should, We see something like a 49 minutes difference (between the 3:33 and 2:44)

    I don't think that my calculations are wrong, and if I'm right, then there's something wrong with the in game behaviour regarding travel time. If I've got it wrong, explain where I missed something, that would be really helpful.
    The calculations and the online display where right just after the dockyard got on the game, but now there's a problem.

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  • my 2 fishing locations r not reset since 2 days
    stil those r empty....pl guide what to do

    tried loggin in logging out many times
    tried wtiching farms so many times nothig hapened
    My empty fishing locations do not vanish either. The one on the left was empty since yesterday morning and the one on the right was empty since yesterday evening. 
    Two other empty spots did vanish and I got new ones. So, I don't know if this is a bug or if there's a limit on getting new fishing locations. 
  • my 2 fishing locations r not reset since 2 days
    stil those r empty....pl guide what to do

    tried loggin in logging out many times
    tried wtiching farms so many times nothig hapened
    My empty fishing locations do not vanish either. The one on the left was empty since yesterday morning and the one on the right was empty since yesterday evening. 
    Two other empty spots did vanish and I got new ones. So, I don't know if this is a bug or if there's a limit on getting new fishing locations. 
    i am facinf this problem

    my fellow coop memebrs got new fishing area after 5mins of getting emptied
    but my fishing area r stucked there only for 2 days and boats resting on dock
    GGS plz fix it

    i have 14 trawlers now
    but few boats always remaining on dock due to this
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 02.06.2017
    how long dose it take for a fishing hole to restock?
    i need shrimp and cant find any, the holes are empty, cant even get my boats on them now.



    There are 13 fishing locations in total, of which 6 should be visible active in your screen. What fish are in it is a surprise, for everybody different .... I f.i. do have 4 of them filled with lobster today ... while I could use some cod/salmon  :p

    A fishing location will reset after 24 hours, or as soon as you've emptied it. This is how I understood things.
    If all of your fishing locations are empty, maybe refreshing, switching between farms or log off/log on again could help.


    I managed to dig up what Wascally Wabbit posted last week about this:

    "When you are not having certain fish available at any locations - There are 13 different fishing locations, of which 6 should always be active. When one location has been emptied of fish, it will close & a new location will open (hopefully with the fish you want). If an empty one does not disappear, go to a different farm & back again. Locations also reset after 24 hours."


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  • Damaria3 (US1)Damaria3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,737
    Well it does not seem to disappear once the fish are gone have had one stay empty for close to 8 hrs and have had same fish holes have lobsters in them for three days.  No complaints just sharing observation, very tricky with no real pattern that you can depend on for FHW  so you may get thwarted by the luck of whats in your pools..
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,197
    I will have to check and calculate my earnings.  They are large.  I meant that sometimes you will get streaks with no swordfish pools.  Yesterday and today, I was most unlucky, getting only crustaceons and lobsters.  I got crustaceons 9 times in a row yesterday (they were different pools, moving around the board).  Hopefully they will address this.


    But I will have to calculate to get a daily total.  I know this much.  My balance is above where it was last week, when this started...so it has paid for all of my boats and that alone was a decent sum of money.


    But this will help make certain game items affordable to the higher level player.  I know that there complaints that Matilda, Lester's Stash, and the Lab all become unaffordable to upgrade quite quickly.  This should help to remedy that.  Only players with fleets of trawlers are going to pull in the mega bucks and you still have to high game levels to unlock the trawler past level 1, so players will still have to level-up to get to the point where they can pull in the mega bucks.
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