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Were not Gold abusers. We all just pull our weight and play missions fair and square.
Weve never won a CC but we rock as a team.
Laibanaz coop time to win a CC is near.....I know it
Again many elements need re-vamping. Currently we have a situation where a dynasty has been created by GGS which completely crushes the spirit of true competition. Even the best played strategy is useless when advanced production technologies and incentives are provided to only one group, who is heavily backed by vast wealth... It's like going to a gun fight with a pea shooter. What's the purpose? It's pretty evident that the Championship provides great revenue for GGS, or they wouldn't be pushing to continually increase frequency. As a top revenue producer it is incumbent upon GGS to deal with the issues at hand, related to the Championship. There needs to be a re-engineering / re-structuring to revive the true competition of the event; based on skill & strategy, not gold and exclusive benefits that provide unfair advantage to one group.
**While working on this revamp process, the event needs to be established as a Monthly Co-op Championship.
Not that you are going to listen to the above comments on the stupidity you are about start. Nor are you going to actually think this thing through to a conclusion that you are driving the players that you have up the wall with the constant demand for people to pay to play in some form or other. Knowing that you are going to lose a great deal of your players if you start charging money for the game you've come up with this solution to attempt to get more money. Why don't you just charge to play and get it over with you'd get the players that are willing to put out money and you'd stop having to moderate the forum and complaints you aren't listening to in the first place from those of us that are so tired of the constant annoyance of you working toward getting paid larger amounts. This is going beyond enough. Your not making it more interesting your making it more annoying. Is there a reason for this other then wanting to get paid? Or has it something to do with the things you've promised to implement and you discovered you can't afford them without this? Granted you can play the challenge without gold. You don't get very high up on the totem pole but it can be played that way. So what's the deal why not fix what's broken increase the amount of the farms we need to buy stuff for as well as complete the village. I would think that would be enough of a challenge for those that want it. It would appear that a great many of us don't want it. How about listening for a change. Not that the comments are going to change your mind but hey wishful thinking is always a nice thought
So very true but then the reason for the forum is to voice an opinion. I see it's working.Jiesta (NL1) said: I gotta agree with you on that one, but there are coops out there that will drop a member if they can't or don't participate in EVERYthing that comes on the game. It ain't fair Heck life isn't fair but then again. There are players that play 24/7 and this is the most excitement of their lives. I am lucky in my coop and I have a life most of the time away from the game, but 2 coop challenges a month is a bit much.
MsWalker (US1) said:
@Cedar (US1)
I truly think that all the number one gold players need to be playing each other from the different servers. This will be a good thing for GGS make a ton of money and give others a chance a first in gold. Granted it will still be probably a select few but at least it would open it up a bit for others. This is the only way I can see to revamp and spread the good cheer now I am sure that may not be popular amongst those elite coops that always get first not that they need those prizes but to uphold their egos. This is at least a suggestion of how we could make things better.
I always thought that blending of the two words was awkward at best and funny in an odd sort of way. but CoopCha it is..
Secondly it is just a form of "gold washing". It does not take a whole lot of skill to click sow/produce, skip harvest dump excess inventory and rewash over and over again. As it is with many of the events including Hard Worker. Unless you have the Cooperative duck ponds and Orchards, or 50% of your farm in fertile fields, cow sheds or chicken coops. Balanced farms do not even have a gnats chance in a firestorm.
I dearly love every member of my cooperative, we are a great team, and we work together so well, like a well oiled machine, each and every individual victory becomes a geniune smile on the face of each of us. There are no losers, only winners. That is why i participate in CoopCha. Not because of my own personal desires, but to enjoy the small victories. To see the remarkable growth of neighboring farms, and the pride and work done to grow them into competitive farms. Great Leadership, and honest Teamwork. Setting goals and reaching them when it seems all uphill. Yeah its a struggle at times, but a good one. And I would not miss it for the world no matter where we placed.
One thing i won't do is leave my cooperative to join the dynasty to get the rewards that this game has made impossible for me to gain because of its inequity. That happens everyday in many leagues where people switch cooperatives to pursue a fleeting victory.
If you really want to make Coopcha a truely competitive event then make the playing field even,so that skill and strategy is required to win, not the next prime time spending or the next Gold offer. Your profit would soar and the game would flourish like never before. You would be hiring and not laying off employees, and your growth would be phenominal. GGS you are cheating yourself.
Make production prizes attainable for all (125K eggs in a mission is bloody ridiculous)
Decrease the frequency of Coopcha (every third week would be a great start)
Balance shelving limits against player level not production quota for unbalanced farms.
in essence "level the playing field so all players can be competitive"
This thread has so many valid points. I agree about the current frequencies of the Coopcha's/concerns and can also understand why GGS has dialed it up a notch. IMHO...
- Twice a month is too frequent, it seems to have become quite redundant, VERY Quickly!
- If in order to win (anytime.. outside coopcha as well), and spending real-money to buy GOLD is necessary in order to win, than it's not the type of competition I choose to participate in. It's a personal choice, right?
- For me, BigFarm is just a game to relax with. If enjoyment is lost because of added stress caused by time-demands required for game-play OR it goes beyond my allowable budget for entertainment OR feeling like some of the in-game Tasks become Chores, than I'll go play another game. I've already played a few similar games (with the same satisfaction level) and there are many more games out there like Big Farms, that I can have fun with. I believe GGS and I have the same reciprocating sense of loyalty.
Perhaps a nice compromise for the Coopcha's would be for a rotation of every 3-weeks, having a duration of 5 or 6 days. For me personally, at the 5-day point, my interest wains considerably and I dread the thought of another mission.You did not answer my question gabi how is any of what you said going to increase their gold sales they are having these CC to generate money for the company so if you don't want them that often how can they generate the income. While I have been accused of being so negative towards GGS it has more to do with their lack of communication and transparency and not using their listening ears. When we ask for things from GGS we also need to think of their needs and why something is in place. So asking them to not have the CC twice a month for four days is taking from their income. Now when players ask for a cat they can give us one and like the dog can make it so they can make some money off it, or another farm, ect. Hope that you understand the point I am making here.
Why? because my farm is also small enough that my farming gets all messed up while I play for hours longer than I want to waiting to get a chance to use my cows, ducks, donkeys, and/or pigs. It is really hard to do events which I need to do to get the deco while dedicating my farm to 8 days of this event and now that it is split up that means 2 weekly deco events are affected.
Also, the advantages for gold players is massive. Not only in buying wins and reps but with the advent of shelving missions many non gold players can't meet the required amount to shelve while the gold players are dumping a winning amount of items then moving on in just the 1st 2 minutes of the mission.
This means it is rare that I find myself even in the top 3 spot of a mission. After spending hours on well, lets be honest LOSING mission after mission some co-op member is going to log in. Drop a ton of gold and in one hour pass me up in the rankings and then they will have the nerve to encourage everyone to push harder before logging out. I mean. they did great and they meant well by being encouraging but DANG it can really get on ones nerves.
I appreciate the gold buyers as they keep the game maker happy and in business.
The gold buyers should appreciate players like me cause without my non gold mission playing style they would be spending a whole lot more money if the only people they competed against used gold too.
When you increase game satisfaction, and you improve a persons hope for a chance to win, you will have more competition, and more gold purchases, and more people working to try to WIN. As it is most just work for the little prizes along the way, because the BIG prizes are out of reach. Something as simple as making the top prizes available to the top three coops so they can grow stronger would be a major boost for most people. IF the goal is attainable, MORE will play.
Just a bit of information to clear things up for those who are not very familiar with how the forum operates.
GGS did not "bury" this thread.
The moderators -- who are not employees of GGS -- are responsible for keeping the forum neat and organised. One of the ways we do that particular task, is to merge threads that deal with the same topics with each other. This makes it easy for everyone to find all the information on one topic easily and in one place, otherwise they have to search through literally pages and pages of threads, trying to pull all the info together.
Another thing you will notice is that, when anyone opens a thread for the very first time, it always defaults to the first page of the thread. However, once you've read some posts, it will always default to the last page you have read, so that you will immediately know where you last stopped, and be able to clearly see what is new and not yet perused by you.
Nifty, isn't it.
Welcome to the forum and I hope you will be able to find lots on interesting and helpful pieces of information here.
Rowdy
I must admit that when I went looking for my post yesterday, all the posts were jumbled up. For example, you'd read a few posts made in 2015 mixed in with posts made in 2017 so it was confusing in reading. But later in the day it seemed to have straightened itself out - at least for me lol. Is there a way to fix that, even if it's something I need to do on my end?
I'm somewhat perplexed as to what might have happened to your thread yesterday.
Right now mine is definitely also in chronological order, for eg. looking back I can see there was some discussion surrounding the topic on the 10th of December, it then flared up again on the 16th of December, then was quiet until 2 days ago (the 11th of February).
So I cannot say for sure what the problem might have been but can only suggest that you may have had the thread open in your browser while it was being merged ?
I did not do the merging myself so am not sure exactly of the time it happened but that might explain the "jumble".
In which case a reload of the page should straighten it out.
In future, should you encounter the problem, please just reopen the page in a new tab.
If you are still encountering problems afterwards, I would appreciate it if you'd send me a PM about it so that we might investigate further.
Rowdy
Refreshing didn't help. I closed the forum and took another look (logged in again) after 30 minutes: then everything was in order and thus alright again.
I took it for just a short glitch in the system, so no biggy to me ...
don't know whether this explains things - just FYI
I am thinking this might be when a post gets merged into the middle of another discussion maybe...
Edit: I don't want to derail the thread completely so I'm just going to edit a response in here, if you don't mind. I think you are probably right about that, MRG. When we merge we don't determine where particular posts go ourselves, Vanilla Forums automatically take all the posts involved and place them in chronological order.
However, if there are any particular glitches we would definitely like to know about it so that it might be passed on to Vanilla and hopefully get fixed.
Rowdy