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Farm Laboratory
andyhudson1965 (GB1)
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Will you be bringing back the super and seaweed feed, fertilizer, and humus in the lab?? That is what we want!!
At this time I see no reason to upgrade the lab past premium duck feed.
Thanks GGS, what seemed like a fun game just became a con.
That's all good for you data king but i don't have the time to make hundreds of billions in farm dollars... my goal was to get as far in the game as i possibly could within a short time frame and work from there. Time is also a commodity and should not be ignored; if i choose to spend money and not years on the game, then why should i be penalized?
During coop challenges, we all buy gold, and Big Farm makes it an invaluable resource for those who are in the competition. Why compete if not to win? And how do we win without spending gold when others do?
Not only has Big Farm taken thousands of dollars worth in gold from me through the farm lab with the promise of "more features coming soon...", it has also severely affected my state of mind. I feel like a fool and am ashamed for having trusted them.
Do we live in a world where 'trust' is no longer a good thing? If the game asserts this to be true, then the notions of 'cooperatives' and 'teams' are contradictions, and are serious disconnects from the way the game has proven to be, in and of itself.
I seriously doubt i will ever be able to trust Big Farm's way of selling its product to be ethical or in my interest. I didn't choose to be conned. I started 10 weeks ago and have yet to see a single feature in the farm lab except for the deletion of a promised level of seaweed fertilizer... i.e. level 42.
People should not conduct business this way. Changing the rules as they go along...
The test server what a joke!!!
"New and improved features..." yeah right!!!
Why don't they try fixing the old ones first!
Or maybe we have to buy and spend millions of farm gold to test it out to the limit???
There is no such thing as a temporary test farm because the game has no end!!!
How do you 'temporarily' test something that has no end??? They have said, yes there will be bugs and to tell them what issues we find,, but what if the issues exist at level 204 as i am right now, and not at level 24???
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The stock floor lady sells 8 million dollars for 65,000 gold and the players get 100 gold for 9.9 million??? Please tell me that was a bad joke.
Did Big Farm just lower the price to level up the farm lab???? This is way not cool to do so in a sneaky manner.... usually it's the "deal of the hour" or "..of the day" but now it's all of a sudden lower???
Talk about trust issues... this is exactly what i mean. Thank you Big Farm, you have just proven my point.
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Thirdly, whatsup with Coop Championships coming up every 2 days. When I started this game it was every 2 to 3 months and everytime it came on I attacked it with zeal. Do you realize how much gold and time goes into it to get to the top or to make points for every mission. Do you think its easy to be number 1 or get million reputation points. Especially the fact that you no longer give us the 200% reputation points that we could buy more than once to last us for the whole championships .Please why was that scrapped. So many good things you have scrapped. Now we only get the 50%rep points that last for 1hour and you can only use to play a few missions, especially if you are aiming for 1st. At the end of every championships people have mission fatigue Now people dread it coming cos we have not finished breathing before the next one comes. I have to give members a mental boost before every championships cos they are seeing it as a job not like it should be , competitive fun. Give people time to recuperate financially and mentally. Please give people time to prepare for it. Don't bombard us with 20 coop championships in a month on top of us playing missions every week to maintain our reputation points cos we lose 10% every week which I think is stupid
Kimber am sorry of how you feel about the laboratory. I don't blame you at all and bigfarm people if you are reading this you should do something about it cos she is speaking the mind of many people. Work on the features we have at the moment before adding more features. Add the seaweed, special humus and gold certificate to the lab please. What else should they add Kimber?
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However, regarding the Laboratory, I couldn`t agree more. I can only describe the situation with the seaweed products as a classic "bait n switch". We all know GGS have made some cringeworthy decisions in the past, but that one, IMO is by far the worst. To put the seaweed items on the list "locked" was clearly an indication that they would be the next items to be unlocked & absolutely encouraged a lot of people to upgrade as far as possible ready for when that happened, so when they brought out the update replacing them with some of the most useless items I think I have ever seen, is just shameful. Then to top it off, they add Seaweed Fertilizer back as a teaser "coming soon" after the level 40 item..... Seriously as if anyone is going to fall for that again!!
The items they did add, are verging on insulting, Gold horseshoes???? I have millions of them, what I need is regular ones, but woohoo I can now use the regular ones that I have to make more gold ones haha & then somewhere around level 32 I use 35 million gold ones to make some regular ones again, wth??
Don`t even get me started on Catalyzers.... How does it go?...You need yellow ones to make green ones to make brown ones to make purple ones to make blue ones just so you can make a teaspoonful of gold, does anyone actually care about all that??? Its just an excuse to dump catalyzers on us as rewards in tasks & events, so we can have another pile of useless items instead of something we can actually use on our farms.
They should remove all those items that were added & put back the ones that were there originally & unlock them!!
You are more than welcome to come and check out my farms that I have built up with what I earn in and through the game. Now some of the things you will not be able to see like the library books/farm boosters that I have managed to save up and bought. But you will be able to see a fertile field on my main farm that I bought on my first day, that I just a few minutes ago, I managed to finally get it maxed.
I have been a player here for over 3 years and feel this is a long term game if you plan on playing for free or almost for free.
As with any sale or deals, some are better than others. Before rushing off to buy the latest deal or sale, be sure it is some thing you want to invest into to make it worth your while.
Every one has a choice to spend real money on the game/gold or not. Those that do help support the game so those who can not or do not want to spend real money can still play.
Each and every player has their own way they play the game. There is no right or wrong way.
I do not spend gold during any missions being during the CC or not. I know a lot of player who do not spend gold/real money on missions. Yes we want to compete and win. But there is a limit as to how far one is willing to go for that. I and many players choose not to spend gold/real money for mission regardless.
I do not understand how you can feel penalized? You do not have to buy and use gold if you do not want to.
Yes those who buy gold and use it will have the advantage in the game and so it should be.
I guess the bottom line is, we all have a choice, so choose wisely
I agree with runs with scissors 100% on the bait n switch tactic although i wasn't around for the original version of the lab. I also agree with data king's appraisal of the fact that we all have a choice to buy farm gold and for most cases i did not have a problem with spending money to buy the gold... Just the lab.
i do however, have some issues concerning the way the game servers operate with regards to the players. The best way for a company to maximize their profits and keep doing so is to make sure that commodities are in the interest of both the consumers as well as the manufacturers.
Some of my more emotional outbursts in the previous posts were intentional. I want the people runng Big Farm to understand that we are people and not just blips on a computer screen.
Once again, thank you for your comments and i hope the issue will be resolved soon. And as for the lowering of the leveling of the farm lab, it has hurt me but it will help future buyers so i guess in that way i am glad that my comments have had a positive effect for some.
The following written on my wall along this thread, i want grammyk's voice to be heard as well as mine.
Thank you grammyk.
money to buy gold. It is an opportunity for them to purchase gold with farm $...After you begin to make hundreds of
millions in farm dollars you can spend them to get gold for various items only available for gold. As ggs uses gold
purchases to keep the servers up and running...it only makes sense that they would not want to use the sale of gold
for virtual dollars to be a desirable option.
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i hope that those interested will continue to share your opinions on the matter:)
Thanks to all responders.
Data king, i'm sorry if my comments were vague.
I feel penalized because of the gold i spent on the farm laboratory, which used to be quite more substantial 2 days ago than it is today. The point i was trying to make was that if i spend the gold, then i should be rewarded in the manner that they promised i.e. "more features coming soon" and when i started the lab, the seaweed fertilizer was promised at level 42. which has now just been greyed out without any info on level required.
Hence, they have been fiddling with the numbers and the wording and levels, but not with the actual substance of the lab, which i find quite deceptive. For long time players, it was an outright "bait n switch" as runs with scissors has said, and for me as well although perhaps lesser in degree and i do feel that trust has now gone out the window for me.
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I agree with what FarmerKimber said about the farm lab.
First of all, why does it have to be a guessing game? When you start a lab with 100 levels, from the beginning, for each level from 1 to 100, tell us how much to pay to receive what.
Secondly, once you start it, don't change the rules because those changes are never ever to the player's advantage.
After that it is up to each individual whether to participate or not.
As your dedicated players, we are buying enough gold to play this game.
You don't have to deceive us on top of that.
I can see that GGS is worried about player fatigue; perhaps they're (wrongfully) thinking, "if they have too much that makes their game "easier" or "faster" that they'll get bored and leave the game." If this IS what they think, they have received some very bad advice. If you want us to stick around long after we've jumped through the hoops, add more to the game! Make it more interesting; add that fourth farm, make the candy farm more profitable, add different animals and crops, better weekly games, etc. But instead, GGS has just slowed us down and retracted "promises" hoping we'll move through the game more slowly and stick around longer. By doing so, however, GGS has upset us, made us feel deceived and have angered us.
I do hope that they will be able to work with us so that each party is satisfied with the outcome. So many of us have invested so much energy, money and time (years!) in the game and I want to believe that GGS will respect that.
Another deceptive practice??? If the people merging posts have the power to delete times and certain words like "and" and other reactions, where does it end? It is a slippery slope people, please recognize that.
I to was excited to see it and thought it would be a great benefit down the road as we were able to get it up in levels. But I also realized that there was no way they would make super and seaweed items available at the lower levels. It was just a matter of time until they changed that.
I try to warn all the members of our co op about this and not to put to much into it right away.
I agree with the merging of threads/posts it would be nice to get a reason and notification of the changes.
So you realized that they were deceiving you from the outset and you warned your coop members but not others? Has Big Farm always been so deceptive that you would think that from the start?
Edmund Burke Quotes. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Perhaps i'm not understanding correctly but i'm not a cynic, nor do i call myself a "realist" which is far worse. I do trust and believe until experience teaches me otherwise. I am happier having hope than being right. How awful would life be if being right always meant having to believe the worst in people?
Besides I have no way of knowing who will read my threads/posts if any one.
and you have made 3,348 posts/ responses. You must've had some feedback and knowledge that you were being read to be so prolific.
It is evil. IMO.
and you said that you realized this and also that you realized that they didn't (realize)? I don't understand...
Still to low for those great products. IMO
As I said I do not think that they thought it through enough to bring it into the game, even the way it is now. IMHO
and these businesses are clearly trying to make a product better and having people buy them, is confirmation that the product is better.
can you say that about the farm lab? people are buying less levels, not more obviously, (except stupid old me who was duped into it by innocence)
as runs with scissors has said, clearly a "bait and switch" and very unethical.
Being a smaller company does not give you the right to be unethical in business practices.
And yes there are companies out there who are also unethical, but does big farm want to be one of them?