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Update May 11th - Shelving Missions- Discussion

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  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    Sounds like it will be even more unbalanced.  If a player spends a ton of gold on one mission, then shelves it and spends a ton of gold on another etc... Then they win double (may triple or more) missions, and multiply their lead in the Coop championship.

    Seems like GGS just wants the big Gold spenders to spend a lot more and the rest of us just suffer through it.

    No fix for matching players. Very disappointed. 

  • CM PopeyeCM Popeye Posts: 535
    edited 11.05.2016
    Hey guys, Why not give the new features, and reworked Co-op, a shot. Then you can let us know exactly what you think so we can hopefully adjust. Update is going live now, so you will have your chance soon ;)

    -Popeye
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    I've been watching from distance for some time now and had this amusing thought: I think by now the game could have a subtitle "Farming strategy for dummies". Coop champ has always been the major driving force/tool in this type of transformation. Why for dummies? Well, you don't need any strategy at all. Buy land - anytime with gold. Build one of each, upgrade - of course with gold. Harvest any number of times you want any time - with gold.  Now the Duck pond actually means a big luxury improvement in this scheme, something like a Premium. It let's you pile the eggs for missions and other with four/five times less clicking then before. Well worth the gold needed to get it as it reduces the risk of you getting carpal tunnel syndrom from excessive clicking. :) Enjoy your golding. :)
  • Uncle John (GB1)Uncle John (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11,004
    I just "shelved" a mission. It didn't cost me gold to do it! I am amazed!!   :¬D
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    The FIRST thing that should have been sorted in missions is the very large difference in players levels who are in the same mission.  A member of my coop is now in a mission where all of the players are over level 100 APART FROM ONE WHO IS ONLY LEVEL 14 ! 
  • CM LattenCM Latten Posts: 542
    PSA: The required number of harvests to shelve a mission is currently incorrect, it should be double the amount of what's asked for at the moment. This may be fixed short-term, but latest with the next update :) 


  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    And both the new backgrounds are gold.  Who would have thought that? :/

    Nevermind, eh?  Next update brings a player's survey.  Won't that be fun?
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    @DuffyPoo222(INT1) -  hehe, that should make interesting reading :)
  • matt14696 (US1)matt14696 (US1) US1 Posts: 54
    Perhaps we should give it a go. Perhaps it has been evened out. Perhaps Brat Pack will boycott the event like they said. Perhaps more people will have the opportunity to win decent rewards. Perhaps we wont have to use heaps of gold to win. Perhaps I'm deluding myself. Perhaps pigs might fly backwards dropping gold behind them. The good thing is that perhaps I wont bother to participate and just keep playing for fun.
  • DreamScape Farm (IN1)DreamScape Farm (IN1) IN1 Posts: 58
    edited 11.05.2016
    In the info tab about the Dandy Duck Coop, although its size is 4 times the normal duck coop BUT the output is equivalent to single duck coop!!!

    Duck Coop (8x6) for 10 Feeds 300 Eggs
    &
    Dandy Duck Coop (16x12) for 40 Feeds 330 Eggs

    Why its like this @CM Latten ?

  • niblett99 (GB1)niblett99 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 11

    Just took part in a mission on EN1. Players from 63 to 379 were in the group. The top player harvested 5000+ pigs within the first few seconds, shelved the mission, they no doubt went off to play another mission, and got max points for all they took part in.

    Not impressed with this new setup - once again GGS are only interested in the big gold spenders.


  • Dharu_89 (IN1)Dharu_89 (IN1) Posts: 209
    edited 11.05.2016

    @CM Latten 

    Yes. Coop Apple orchards were good. With low space occupation and high output.

    These ducks take too much precious space of our gourmet farm and yet gives low output with high feed consumption. 28 feeds in the place of 7. we cant empty all our feeds within 2 days of cc on coop duck.

    GGS really needs to rework the duck coop for the cc reward or make a new worthy reward available.

  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    I've been watching from distance for some time now and had this amusing thought: I think by now the game could have a subtitle "Farming strategy for dummies". Coop champ has always been the major driving force/tool in this type of transformation. Why for dummies? Well, you don't need any strategy at all. Buy land - anytime with gold. Build one of each, upgrade - of course with gold. Harvest any number of times you want any time - with gold.  Now the Duck pond actually means a big luxury improvement in this scheme, something like a Premium. It let's you pile the eggs for missions and other with four/five times less clicking then before. Well worth the gold needed to get it as it reduces the risk of you getting carpal tunnel syndrom from excessive clicking. :) Enjoy your golding. :)
    @Kamilcom (GB1) I couldn't agree more.  This is turning into a whoever buys the most gold wins game.  Have you seen the Legacy of the Mayans?  Just turned up on my farm.  For those who already  have all the levels of a library book, a special offer (for a boatload of gold) to uprade that book to get even more eggs, wf, etc.  The fun is draining away.....
  • shazamd (US1)shazamd (US1) US1 Posts: 766
    edited 11.05.2016
    Looks like GGS may have added additional levels to existing Farm Boosters.  I only had one book maxed out....corn.  I just had an offer pop up on my main farm...Mayan Legacy.  For a mere 69,000 gold, I can add a level 6 to my Corn Booster.  :D   Why sure......

    Post edited by shazamd (US1) on
  • Tigrain (BG1)Tigrain (BG1) BG1 Posts: 170
    I dont know if you guys noticed but new ponds production time is 2 hours instead of 8.
  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958

    These ducks take too much precious space of our gourmet farm and yet gives low output with high feed consumption. 28 feeds in the place of 7. we cant empty all our feeds within 2 days of cc on coop duck.

    GGS really needs to rework the duck coop for the cc reward or make a new worthy reward available.

    You have the equivalent of 5 duck coops in there.  Of course you have to feed 4 x normal.  You're replacing, in size, 4 coops.  Besides, as the poster above said, you get to harvest every 2 hours vs 8.  

  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    edited 11.05.2016
    OK @CM Popeye  I am trying it. Here's what I found so far:

    First mission:
    I am in a mission now for feed, I have the maximum level on both mills and I am in 4th place. Two players have obviously speeded up their mills with gold, and have double the feed that I have. They have also shelved the mission. I need to use gold if I want to shelf the mission, because I don't have enough feed. So much for evening it out. Not impressed.

    Next mission:
    Milk mission. I have 8 level 7 cowsheds and 5 level 7 Goats. Compeying against a player with 4 level 6 Cows and 3 Goats. I have harvested all at full capacity and used cow silage on all the cows 3 times. I am in second place with 4 minutes to go. I harvest the last of the cow silage for 1st place then shelf the mission. Finished in 3rd place

    Results confirm my original opinion:The new and improved missions make it even more unbalanced. These missions were played without reputation boosters. I can only imagaine how much worse it will be during the Championship with boosters.



    edited to add 2nd mission



    Post edited by MRG1 (US1) on
  • Mira (US1)Mira (US1) Posts: 103
    This "game" has no strategy.  It's a euphemism for a casino.

    I play less and less and don't really care when I don't.  There's little fun in it.
  • Michiru (GB1)Michiru (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,239
    edited 11.05.2016
    Has anyone got a screenshot of this professor James guy? Mayan gold thing, or somesuch? Fellow coopmembers have spotted some old man with a book hovering between cooptree and flag, but he is not visible for everyone, and seems to come and go like the architect....? part of library book extensions it sounds like..


    Oh and love the new flags! Shame they are gold only....... GGS you forgot the Aussie flag!! Gotta make one, quick quick :D 

  • shazamd (US1)shazamd (US1) US1 Posts: 766
    edited 11.05.2016
    I have the Mayan thing on my farm.  I think you have to have your Farm Booster for corn maxed.  It essentially offers a level 6 for the booster.....for a mere 69,000 gold.      :o
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    Does a "legacy of the Mayans" book occupy my build slot for all of those hours, or do I simply have to wait to use it?

    And, does the duck egg book work on this new Dandified Duck Coop that I will apparently never own.
  • Arghhhhh! Why did you double the amount needed to shelf a mission?  With my small farm I was actually having fun losing a bunch of missions at a time and it was nice being able to use my dung without sitting on it for hours waiting for that mission to come up.  
    My level 49 farm is too small to meet the new goals.  My current mission on feed wants 734 to skip and even the level 79 in 1st place only has 390 with 5 minutes left.  


  • Weird update .... its a book level, why a new building and not simply in the library....

    Also the translators seem to be on holliday ; in the dutch version the text for book for cow food and the new wet cowfood is the same, so if you don't look very closely to the pics you might buy the wrong books...


  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    I might be misunderstanding.  Who gets this duck coop?  Just the top coop or all of the coops in the gold league?
  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    edited 11.05.2016
    Has anyone got a screenshot of this professor James guy? Mayan gold thing, or somesuch? Fellow coopmembers have spotted some old man with a book hovering between cooptree and flag, but he is not visible for everyone, and seems to come and go like the architect....? part of library book extensions it sounds like..


    Oh and love the new flags! Shame they are gold only....... GGS you forgot the Aussie flag!! Gotta make one, quick quick :D 

    You have a Canadian Flag!  Shame I didn't.  May have been forced to buy gold. :open_mouth: 

    "
    I might be misunderstanding.  Who gets this duck coop?  Just the top coop or all of the coops in the gold league?"

    The winning co-op in the gold league gets the duck coop.

    If you have maxed out any book in the library (I have chickens, ducks, WF and honeycream) then the Mayan thing shows up wanting you to spend gazillions of gold to get a special level on your book that takes some hours for Professor James to prepare.  (The one for honeycream is 129K gold, +36 honeycream, and 107.5 hours to prepare the book. <-- on my farm)
  • Do u feel like u are on a Merry-Go-Round??   Update the game and in process make something else even more complicated.......
  • Artmaker (GB1)Artmaker (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,495
    edited 11.05.2016
    This game is getting more and more lame all the time.  Yesterday I never even logged in. 
    I didn't try to understand this latest update.  Never do until they actually come out.  What ever happened to a simple farm game here?  And one that everyone can actually take part in without going into debt?   

    1.  Missions.  I play, I get certs, I'm out. Don't care if I win or not.  Coop does when that mission event is running so then I try to do a few  a day but winning?  It gets too crazy.  

    2.  The island thing.   Forget EVER actually getting past the first levels of chapter 2.  I have tried. Forget it.  Not going to happen for me, ever.   So I play the same boring first few bits just to get seeds for the ship.  I really wish your island could be saved as you have it until the next time it rolls around. Pick up where we left off.  But no.  boring.

    3.  That hard worker event.   Another one I will NEVER actually get a top prize on.   Don't even care when that rolls around.  If I have what he's asking for fine.  Few little perks along the way are good.

    4.  I like that events all have newer tougher prizes to win.  BUT.... there is "hard" and there is impossible.   Take this one.  24,000 apples to donate?   Unless one has one of those super farms with nothing but production covering every inch, (and I'm guessing they have to spend gold just to keep things moving, happiness can't be good.)   My 3-4 apple orchards will NEVER make the goal and have enough time to do the rest of the tasks.  And now the latest thing is to reduce the number of days to finish?    Again, forget it.  Added to my ignore list.

    5.  Coops.  I run one on this server.  I inherited one on the international server, and am simply a member of one on the US server.  ALL of them have the same issues that have always been.
    New members are prompted to join a coop WAY too early in the game and have no consequences when they are accepted then never show up or participate in anything.   How about in order to join a coop you have to pay for a spot in what ever research they are trying to fill, and actually LOG IN every day for at least the first week or automatically be removed.    Something!
    It's impossible to keep a coop going once it advances, then loses good players.  Replacing them with level 6 just doesn't fly.

     edited to add
    6. OH, almost forgot about the wheel of fortune guy.  HOW in blazes does ANYONE WIN the stupid green chicken coop?????  And I have seen farms with a dozen or so on them.   I can't even get ONE with three farms.  

    Honestly, as interesting as new stuff is to figure out, this is really becoming more of a drag than a nice relaxing game.

    By the way, what ever GG is doing, my farm on the international server is broken.  Posted in the bug report forum for that one.   SO no mission, no ship, no market, no horses, and no candies.  Missing that day all together.    Phoey.
  • Michiru (GB1)Michiru (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,239
    edited 11.05.2016
    Cheers for the screenshot @shazamd (US1) ! So I guess the mayan type professor guy only shows up if you have bought a lvl 5 book at any stage..

    DuffyPoo222 (INT1) said: You have a Canadian Flag!  Shame I didn't.  May have been forced to buy gold. :open_mouth: 

     Interesting, so there is a rotation of different flags going around? Guess who is going hunting for the Aussie flag  >:) Oh wait, dont have the 14.9k gold....
  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    Do u feel like u are on a Merry-Go-Round??   Update the game and in process make something else even more complicated.......
    Every 'improvement' they make to the CC has been a step bacwards from what we as players are asking for.
    Funny that the Racing News says they want our feedback in a new survey that will be coming out. They never use the feedback we give. (Fix the matching of levels, remove buying of boosters and reputation,etc...) Only make things worse. The only improvement to the CC is improved hardwork prizes but that remains to be seen. The hardwork rewards will be even harder to acheive when the top coops shelf missions.
  • This game is getting more and more lame all the time.  Yesterday I never even logged in. 
    I didn't try to understand this latest update.  Never do until they actually come out.  What ever happened to a simple farm game here?  And one that everyone can actually take part in without going into debt?   

    1.  Missions.  I play, I get certs, I'm out. Don't care if I win or not.  Coop does when that mission event is running so then I try to do a few  a day but winning?  It gets too crazy.  

    2.  The island thing.   Forget EVER actually getting past the first levels of chapter 2.  I have tried. Forget it.  Not going to happen for me, ever.   So I play the same boring first few bits just to get seeds for the ship.  I really wish your island could be saved as you have it until the next time it rolls around. Pick up where we left off.  But no.  boring.

    3.  That hard worker event.   Another one I will NEVER actually get a top prize on.   Don't even care when that rolls around.  If I have what he's asking for fine.  Few little perks along the way are good.

    4.  I like that events all have newer tougher prizes to win.  BUT.... there is "hard" and there is impossible.   Take this one.  24,000 apples to donate?   Unless one has one of those super farms with nothing but production covering every inch, (and I'm guessing they have to spend gold just to keep things moving, happiness can't be good.)   My 3-4 apple orchards will NEVER make the goal and have enough time to do the rest of the tasks.  And now the latest thing is to reduce the number of days to finish?    Again, forget it.  Added to my ignore list.

    5.  Coops.  I run one on this server.  I inherited one on the international server, and am simply a member of one on the US server.  ALL of them have the same issues that have always been.
    New members are prompted to join a coop WAY too early in the game and have no consequences when they are accepted then never show up or participate in anything.   How about in order to join a coop you have to pay for a spot in what ever research they are trying to fill, and actually LOG IN every day for at least the first week or automatically be removed.    Something!
    It's impossible to keep a coop going once it advances, then loses good players.  Replacing them with level 6 just doesn't fly.

     edited to add
    6. OH, almost forgot about the wheel of fortune guy.  HOW in blazes does ANYONE WIN the stupid green chicken coop?????  And I have seen farms with a dozen or so on them.   I can't even get ONE with three farms.  

    Honestly, as interesting as new stuff is to figure out, this is really becoming more of a drag than a nice relaxing game.

    By the way, what ever GG is doing, my farm on the international server is broken.  Posted in the bug report forum for that one.   SO no mission, no ship, no market, no horses, and no candies.  Missing that day all together.    Phoey.
    and i thought i was being negative lol...
    some of the stuff i aggree is way to hard, others like the hard worker is really not that hard, you can actually get some usefull stuff with the hard worker without too much effort...
    The wheel of fortune is also possible without gold, you just need to save up a bunch of coins (in nl i'd say approx 300) before you decide to join in...

    The ilsland missions just got too expensive, but book 2 reward is certainly possible without high expenses other then mere game dollars...

    the lame thing is goodgame has lately only been copy-pasting code and renaming some stuff and new pictures, the three level 1..100 buildings are all same stuff, they want to make money without having to actually create something new....
    the book update with the old man is useless, should have been in the library only, the lesters secret stash is the most useless update ever, it will cost you a thousend times more then it will ever deliver...
    The update of the school is pretty much the same thing, cost is insane, and what you get in return is close to nothing...so i don't bother at all with lesters stash and the school, anyone who does upgrade it is an imbicil in my opinion :pensive: 
    The favorite offers hmmmm ... they are really not favorite of anyone...thats just BS :) The strategy is simple, as long as people are buying enuf, goodgame will up the prices...., and spending a hell of a lot of money doesn't even give you all that much of an advantage over other players either... So we can blame goodgame (which i am happy to do), but really it's just the players, if they keep buying... prices go up :)



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