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Upcoming Event - Santa's Wish List - Your questions and comments

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  • Nemej (CZ1)Nemej (CZ1) Posts: 220
    fifth step is a joke from ggs. no reason for collecting if only top clickers will be rewarded. it is big surprise but not positive :)
  • Siabug (DE1)Siabug (DE1) DE1 Posts: 34

    Hello GGS.

    I understood only the first 24 coops get the super deco.

    How is it with the happiness? Can the happiness be further increased with collecting snow flakes?

     If yes does that also apply only on the first 24 coops and their decoration or does the happiness of the "common" Ice castles increase as well?

    Thanks

    Siabug 


  • CM LattenCM Latten Posts: 542

    Hello GGS.

    I understood only the first 24 coops get the super deco.

    How is it with the happiness? Can the happiness be further increased with collecting snow flakes?

     If yes does that also apply only on the first 24 coops and their decoration or does the happiness of the "common" Ice castles increase as well?

    Thanks

    Siabug 


    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/ 




  • My main question: Those who are ranked outside the top 24, will the snowflakes they collect still add to increase the overall happiness of the frosty ice castle? Because so far it's not improving anymore little by little, but standing still, despite the falling snowflakes..
    i would like this answered as our coop never got all 100 % most weeks so will only get a low deco,so will the value still increase wiith snowflakes
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
       CM Latten said:
     

    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/ 

    Question please Latten:

    how long will this part of the event last ?Will it be complete this coming Sunday (week 5) or will it go on for the remaining 14 days ?

    :)

  • It looks like the size of the coop matters, not your own level for the number of collected snowflakes:

    size of the coop. :7;29;42;65 members
    eggs: 15,30;6,12;4,8;3,6 flocons avec les poulaillers
    apple: 86,117;34,46;24,32;17,23 flocons avec les pommeraies

  • PCA (GB1) said:
       CM Latten said:
     

    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/ 

    Question please Latten:

    how long will this part of the event last ?Will it be complete this coming Sunday (week 5) or will it go on for the remaining 14 days ?

    :)

    our coop has the snowy igloo, but if i click on the snowbound cottage it says available through  cooprerative activity, so this would imply that we can increase our deco as with this low a deco we arent going to be in a top coop.
  • fifth step is a joke from ggs. no reason for collecting if only top clickers will be rewarded. it is big surprise but not positive :)
    @Nemej (CZ1)  The number of snowflakes is massively different for different size/level coops. I am high level in a large coop & I get 3 or 6 snowflakes for a chicken coop, whereas a low level friend in a small coop is getting over 130 snowflakes for chickens & 236 for pigs. B)
  • Thanks for the info, Nalkiste.
    This makes the last week a little fairer to small coops, it's nice to know that it works like this :)
  •    CM Latten said:
    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/ 

    What??? So if I am not in the top 24 co-ops, my deco won't upgrade at all, even if I have spent so much time trying to get the snowflakes???
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    edited 21.12.2015
    That one week to fail is within these 4 weeks.
    If it is so,success is get any decoration.
    why 1 week? not 3 weeks?
    Everybody who's in any co-op gets the lowest visual decoration as long as at least one member of that co-op donated something during any of the 4 weeks.
    There are 4 visual/basic value types of deco, so you need to level up 3 times to get the highest visual. Since you have 4 attempts/weeks to do it, you can fail one week and still get the highest.
    That debated phrase was just CM's way of saying, that even if people failed that first week when everybody was learning the mechanics of the event, it didn't destroy their chances to get to the highest visual of the deco. In other words, in anticipation the BF team gave us all 1 week to try and learn, and 3 weeks to nail it down and win, to succesfully get to the top deco.

    CM Latten said:

    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/ 

    And yes, this is not the best way to arange the final step. It would have been much better and gamer friendly if some increase in happiness was granted to all players based on snow flakes collected taking leveling mechanism into an account. But that's GGS. Trying to create overly competitive environment is one of the aspects that tends to kill the game for those who would rate themselves among true casual players without the drive to turn this game into their life accomplishment. :) I suspect that would be wast majority of players. :).
    Although leveling the co-ops so that big ones lose their advantage and every co-op has  presumably the same chances regardless of their size is certainly a step which is highly commendable.


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  • Lesley52 (GB1)Lesley52 (GB1) Posts: 1,590
    I joked amongst team mates that we would see a lot of seaweed hot deals and sure enough 1 turned up. This decor for top 24 coops is very good deal for GGS especially last few hours when coops battle it out for a place to get that decor Not for me I hope it  bites GGS only place they like their sales People should ignore hot deals to event over
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    I belong to a very small (5 active members) coop and we are getting 1,625 snowflakes from sunflower harvests.
  • witchy (NL1)witchy (NL1) Posts: 19
    edited 21.12.2015
    I'm in a 2 members coop and we both managed to reach the 100% every week so we completed all 4 weeks.
    But now we have to collect snowflakes and we never ever in our wildest dreams reach the top 24 with only 2 members in a coop, so i'm curious if they have a honest counting in the form of an average or something of that kind.
    If not we can stop to spend to many hours in this game and spend some more x-mas time with the family. ;):#

    I collect 18 snowflakes with eggs and 100 with apples so thats not more than the coop with 65 members
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    I'm in a 2 members coop and we both managed to reach the 100% every week so we completed all 4 weeks.
    But now we have to collect snowflakes and we never ever in our wildest dreams reach the top 24 with only 2 members in a coop, so i'm curious if they have a honest counting in the form of an average or something of that kind.
    If not we can stop to spend to many hours in this game and spend some more x-mas time with the family. ;):#

    I collect 18 snowflakes with eggs and 100 with apples so thats not more than the coop with 65 members

    5 member coop - eggs 15 & 30 snowflakes, apples 86 & 117 snowflakes.  So it is being adjusted according to the size of the coop. 
  • I'm in a 2 members coop and we both managed to reach the 100% every week so we completed all 4 weeks.
    But now we have to collect snowflakes and we never ever in our wildest dreams reach the top 24 with only 2 members in a coop, so i'm curious if they have a honest counting in the form of an average or something of that kind.
    If not we can stop to spend to many hours in this game and spend some more x-mas time with the family. ;):#

    I collect 18 snowflakes with eggs and 100 with apples so thats not more than the coop with 65 members

    5 member coop - eggs 15 & 30 snowflakes, apples 86 & 117 snowflakes.  So it is being adjusted according to the size of the coop. 

    You're coop is bigger but you also receive more snowflakes  (I think) - I receive 100 snowflakes for 530 apples and 18 snowflakes for 45 eggs, so if I understand correctly what you wrote i am not receiving more snowflakes because my coop is smaller but even less.
  • gavinfarms (US1)gavinfarms (US1) US1 Posts: 2,273
    Runs-
    I actually agree that what you say "may" be what is "supposed" to happen.  That is exactly why GGS needs to speak up and clear all of this up.
  • Bob48 (GB1)Bob48 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 19

    Why doesn't someone from GGS admit they have made a massive mistake in the way this event is being finished!

    You can already see the gap that is forming amongst the top few coops!

    What a rubbish way to finish this event, 13 days seems a long week!


     

  • I collect 18 snowflakes with eggs and 100 with apples so thats not more than the coop with 65 members
    We have 65 members & chickens are 3 or 6 snowflakes & apples 14,17 or 23.
    I think level affects it too, not just how many members, so low level players in small coops should be getting the best numbers from what I have seen. :)
  • I just received 48 snowflakes for 165 pigs and the next 165 pigs I collected I received 89 snowflakes

    why it isn't the same amount of snowflakes  for the same amount and level of piggs I don't understand.
    This way it seems they just doing something and don't even know for themselfs if it is the correct and hounest way
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    edited 21.12.2015
    witchy (NL1) said:
    You're coop is bigger but you also receive more snowflakes  (I think) - I receive 100 snowflakes for 530 apples and 18 snowflakes for 45 eggs, so if I understand correctly what you wrote i am not receiving more snowflakes because my coop is smaller but even less.
    No, you get 3 more snowflakes than us for eggs and 14 more snowflakes for apples. To get really large amounts of snowflakes max out your composter, silo and mill overnight and use sunflowers overnight - tons of snowflakes from those.  Violets (127 & 218) and ordinary wheat (112 & 168) are also good.
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  • jess_d (US1)jess_d (US1) US1 Posts: 3,515
    At least there's no "buy snowflakes" or "300% snowflake booster" hot deals..........yet! lol.


    LOL give it time, I expect them to start popping up any minute! :P

    CM Latten said:
    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/ 

    What?!? You have to be kidding! What is the point in collecting snowflakes for 2 weeks if we have to be in the top 24 to benefit?

    This is really sad......just sad! :(

  • I got 27, 41 from wheat. My coop is on 45 rank. Looking forward to be in top 24
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 21.12.2015
    I've always understood that every coop could win a nice Christmas deco (whether it was the 1st or the 4th bauble) after 4 weeks of playing the Santa's List with as highest visual possibility the Ice Castle. And I've always known there would be a 2 weeks "collect snowflakes" event after that to be able to catch the "Frozen Crystal Palace" ... The only thing we didn't know is how this "collect snowflakes" event would be fitted in the ranking list ...
    So far so good - and in the meantime being very, very proud that our small coop reached the 8th place in the rankings after those first 4 weeks of Santa's List.

    But ... but ... but ....  :'(

    What a huge disappointment to discover that once again a heavily competitive character has been given to this last snowflake-collecting at the end of this event. Which undeniably means that once again only the biggest and/or top ranked coops who throw in the most gold will be the only ones to have a chance to ultimately get the animated "Frozen Crystal Palace". And all other coops actually do not really make much chance. Not a really friendly, peaceful Christmas thought, to stimulate all that competitiveness and rivalry IMHO. A huge downer on all the fun we had these last 4 weeks!

    This was a very nice, clever and (at last!!) a bit more challenging event to play together with my coop members until yesterday midnight. It was all about figuring out the best strategy based on the right solidarity and cooperation. We needed to use our brains, we needed to talk things over again and again, we needed to cooperate more than ever, and we needed to bring offers for the greater good if necessary.... We were all very enthusiastic.
    But now we are back to the huge competitiveness again! No brains nor planning a strategy needed - just a huge pile of gold.
    In the real world already sufficient competitiveness and rivalry dominates life .... we could really do without it in a farm game!

    And I second @Michiru (GB1)s question. What are we (the other coops who are already, at this very moment excluded from the first 24 places on the list) collecting those snowflakes for?? Will all those snowflakes add up to something else, if we don't win this  "Frozen Crystal Palace" - like maybe more happiness points to our "Ice Castle"? I can't really believe that the majority of us is collecting these snowflakes for nothing.
    I mean I am quite busy during these holidays (and can imagine many more people are) so I would really like to know what I am farming this much for - these past 4 weeks I knew what I did it for - now I don't know. All I know is that we, as many, many, many other coops will not get even the slightest chance to reach the first 24 places.


    EDIT: Oh, I see ..... Latten has already given the so dreaded answer: 

    "The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry  "

    (see here: https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/2757870/#Comment_2757870 )

    Which means that the majority of all players are collecting snowflakes for nothing! Huge, huge bummer!!




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  • Sheriziya (NL1)Sheriziya (NL1) Posts: 131
    edited 21.12.2015
    CM Latten said:
    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/
    This kinda feels like small/young coops are being punished while they also work very hard and have less means to get into the top 24....

    Can't be done that maybe the top 24 will get the highest deco, but at least the snowflakes will add happiness to deco's from all level coops? I think that would be fairer.
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    edited 21.12.2015
    CM Latten said:
    The happiness will also only be awarded for the first 24 coops, I'm sorry :/
    This kinda feels like small/young coops are being punished while they also work very hard and have less means to get into the top 24....

    Can't be done that maybe the top 24 will get the highest deco, but at least the snowflakes will add happiness to deco's from all level coops? I think that would be fairer.
    I am in total agreement that ALL snowflakes collected by ALL coops should be used to enhance the final happiness of the deco.  I was under the impression that this is what would be happening.  I also am not keen on the way the final part of the event has been turned into a festive coop challenge.

    However, I do like the way that smaller coops have been given larger amounts of snowflakes from harvests.  We have only 5 active members but are currently sitting at 15th position in the ranking list - we are not full-time players and there is usually only 1 member online at a time, so the differential has been well worked out.   


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  • Zuko (IN1)Zuko (IN1) Posts: 594
    Why is the top 24 coops r highlighted with blue colour ??? Will they get any rewards ?? or is it just ?
  • CM LattenCM Latten Posts: 542
    They'll get the upgrade for the decoration, yes :)

    Regarding the snowflakes: Keep in mind that there will be more snowflakes for players in smaller cooperatives, so in the end, it should be a fair chance for everyone.


    Alright, here goes:

    Hey everyone, just in general: I collected all (or at least most) of your feedback and present it to our development team. Given the (lack of?) information we had before the event started and thus forwarded to you guys, we're also not exactly happy about how it turned out, and we're very sorry that a bunch of people aren't happy with this final event phase at all.

    Don't forget though, that the Frosty Ice Castle is supposed to be the actual prize of the event, and a looot of coops managed to get it (or another cool decoration) out of it. If you got your castle, for all it's worth you already are done with the event, and got a great price out of it. And that's really cool.
    The Frosted Crystal Palace, on the other hand, is supposed to be a "cherry-on-top" reward, a bonus for everyone who made it this far and is willing to compete for it even more. 

    I honestly do think this isn't too bad in the end, and the idea itself is pretty fun. However, I'm absolutely not happy with how badly all of this was communicated in the first place, and while there were internal communication problems as well, I won't blame anyone but ourselves, the CM team, in this case. We should have asked and questioned way more than we did, to be absolutely clear about this final phase ourselves, and we didn't. I'm really super sorry about this, especially since this was a holiday event of all things, and should be fun and joy for everyone, and I'll promise to be more thorough in the upcoming updates next year. I also, of course, promise to forward your criticism and feedback regarding this to the development team, so we can accordingly create an even better, more fun holiday event next year.

    Please don't be too mad,
    Timo

  • I collect 18 snowflakes with eggs and 100 with apples so thats not more than the coop with 65 members
    We have 65 members & chickens are 3 or 6 snowflakes & apples 14,17 or 23.
    I think level affects it too, not just how many members, so low level players in small coops should be getting the best numbers from what I have seen. :)


    65 members x 3 snowflakes for eggs = 195 snowflakes
    2 members x 18 snowflakes = 36 snowflakes
    65 members x 14 snowflakes for apples = 910 snowflakes
    2 members x 100 snowflakes for apples = 200 snowflakes
    sorry, but I see a huges difference, its impossible to get anywhere near the top 24 with a small coop.
  • PINJO1986 (NL1)PINJO1986 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 1,852
    This update was a nice one for the first week where we need to work as a coop to finish the orders, then Benny came with his kiosk. That was a way to destroy this wonderful coop event, buying all orders with dollars, way to go. And now this last 2 weeks are again a ranked coop event, and we all know what that mean.

    Why do upgrades if there are many things that could improve the game play with less clicking, less faults in upgrading/destroying and more of these things?

    Already quit being a mod for the lack of improvements on forum, now the lack of improvements (and most updates) on the game is a good time for me to start searching for another game. You won't see me for at least a couple of weeks writing on this forums.


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