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Upcoming Event - Santa's Wish List - Your questions and comments

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  • my coop has got almost every list on 100% last sunday chance is a different thing. some of my people got 1% in red on sunday.. what does that mean?
    @Catca5 (NL1)  It all depends how many people have different % numbers, we had 4 last week with 2 on the same number, the top one was bright green, then mid-green & lowest was dark green. This week we have 5 different % and dark & light red have appeared as well as the 3 greens for 4th & 5th places.
  • Jinxy (INT1)Jinxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 165
    Those who don't have tens of milions dollars at their disposal are nearly as good with kiosk as they were without it. :):):) 

    That sums it up pretty well, for my coop at least. 

     

    Anyway… week 3 is just around the corner, my barns are empty of almost all bakery and flower farm products. Since I’ve been producing summer and wildflower bouquets instead of honey cream for 2 weeks, I've not exactly been earning much. Which means I won't be able to spend millions and millions of dollars to help myself or others. Actually, I’ll have to skip the next stage of the event in order to have enough time to partially restock. 


    I do like the Santa's Calendar event though. It's cute, fun and not causing unnecessary stress. 

  • I was asked to leave my coop because i was rude and took the game seriously. I like to finish something! Does anyone know if i start with a new coop tomorrow will i be able to keep my last 2 weeks of 100%? 
    Thanks
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    WHERE did the Christmas shop go!!!!????   

    Wasn't it supposed to stay there on our parking till the end of the Santa's List event???? Confusing!


  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    I think they said "from time to time" the Christmas vendor would show up. Noticed he wasn't on earlier yesterday, but was here earlier today.
  • I was asked to leave my coop because i was rude and took the game seriously. I like to finish something! Does anyone know if i start with a new coop tomorrow will i be able to keep my last 2 weeks of 100%? 
    Thanks
    The way I understand it... no you won't... if someone leaves or is kicked form the cooperative, they are reset on the Santa list. You'll go into the next week with a total reset. 
  • To CM Popeye - ok so I have a question - when it says you can choose to skip a donation and it won't affect the coop going to the next level.... does this mean you cannot donate anything in the list at all???? is the 100% needed for the whole list or just each thing you start in the list... idk if i'm making any sense but I don't know how else to put my question! LOL

    CM Popeye,

    I never saw an answer to Tiggergirl77's comment and thought you may have overlooked it (you have made a comment since this was asked is the only reason I say that). I would very much like to know if what they are asking is the case.

    Tigger, you made perfect sense. I needed the same question answered and you worded it perfectly.

    OK, I'm on board with the question! I guess my question will be, "How many people need to ask the same question to get an answer?"!!!
  • Mira (US1)Mira (US1) Posts: 103
    To CM Popeye - ok so I have a question - when it says you can choose to skip a donation and it won't affect the coop going to the next level.... does this mean you cannot donate anything in the list at all???? is the 100% needed for the whole list or just each thing you start in the list... idk if i'm making any sense but I don't know how else to put my question! LOL

    CM Popeye,

    I never saw an answer to Tiggergirl77's comment and thought you may have overlooked it (you have made a comment since this was asked is the only reason I say that). I would very much like to know if what they are asking is the case.

    Tigger, you made perfect sense. I needed the same question answered and you worded it perfectly.

    OK, I'm on board with the question! I guess my question will be, "How many people need to ask the same question to get an answer?"!!!
    0% or 100% is needed for the entire list for every member for the co-op to reach the next deco level, so don't donate anything at all if you cannot finish the entire list.
  • greygal (US1)greygal (US1) Posts: 25
    edited 07.12.2015
    Santa is freakin' psycho.

    So it's week 3... and I have to get:
    wheat AND summer bouquets
    almonds AND apple pies
    cherries AND fruit cake with cream

    In fact, the only thing that isn't a double request this week for me is cow feed... and it only wanted 140 of those.  Heh, might be the only request I'm remotely able to complete.

    Oh wait, look at that... it is impossible for me to generate enough peaches to make all the fruit cakes needed!  In fact, it'll take me about 8 days 14 hours to grow enough peaches just to make the fruit cakes ... well, at least it's not doubling me on peaches.

    And it'll take 6 days 16 hours non stop to grow enough almonds to fulfill the almonds AND apple pies.  

    I was only able to finish week two with a lot of help from my coop friends, and even with help was unable to complete week one.


    Santa's holiday spirit is non-existent.

    Post edited by greygal (US1) on
  • Lesley52 (GB1)Lesley52 (GB1) Posts: 1,590
    I thought GGS said would not be too much of a crossover of goods. I have honey cream,fruit cake with cream and milk in big numbers and of course milk is needed in both the honey cream and fruit cake,then ship also wanted milk. Yes can buy milk,and maybe honey cream and fruit cake but piggy bank getting very thin with Xmas island still been built up
  • bdreish (GB1)bdreish (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,341
    I thought GGS said would not be too much of a crossover of goods. I have honey cream,fruit cake with cream and milk in big numbers and of course milk is needed in both the honey cream and fruit cake,then ship also wanted milk. Yes can buy milk,and maybe honey cream and fruit cake but piggy bank getting very thin with Xmas island still been built up


    My Wish List was pretty good this time, the only big item needed is Fruit Cake with Cream and I have filled the majority of the orders in one sitting.  However I know exactly how you feel as my 2 daughters wish lists are terrible this week.

    Daughter 1 (level 98) needs to donate 8,120 wheat/1,270 chicken feed/190 goat feed/3,770 apple pies/3,000 fruit cake with cream/1,320 scented oil.  The fruit cake and apple pies would take 64hrs and 45hrs respectively to produce.  When you take into account the amount of wheat needed for the list before even thinking of producing 11,520 units of milk required for the fruit cake it would require her to be on the computer non-stop.  She is not doing this weeks wish list.

    Daughter 2 (level 65) needs to donate 8,530 cabbage/4,820 wheat/15,860 milk/450 olive oil/3,540 apple turnovers/3,760 apple pies/520 romantic bouquet.  Once again there are crossovers in the requirements - wheat for the list and for the production of cow feed/apples for both apple turnovers and apple pies.  She is not doing this weeks wish list.

  • Lesley52 (GB1)Lesley52 (GB1) Posts: 1,590
    It is also restocking to help other coop members on last chance Sunday. Honey cream + pasta baskets both very time consuming,cannot do both if want to help + expensive to buy to donate
  • jules314 (US1)jules314 (US1) US1 Posts: 399
    This trend of doubled up item requests is outrageous. GGS needs to know that there is an acceptable amount of time that someone should be online playing a game like this, in addition to real life demands.

    The arrival of the special offer kiosk is likely the reason why there are so many doubled up requests, whether it is ingredients or lists that have two bakery products or two flower shop products as well. 

    And the answer to finishing these lists will be 1) using millions of dollars, 2) using gold, or 3) really hoping your fellow coop members will do the same to help finish off your lists.

    What will be the result. Members that are already stressed out (I'm packing the house and we're moving our family in 12 days. I can't be online here all the time), and starting to feel resentment at those that keep failing to finish their lists. Members that are spending millions of dollars and using gold to help others so that we can get this horribly sized deco upgraded. I totally understand that we could be happy with just an ice igloo but that's not the point. The event is making us miserable, when before we had a solid team dynamic.
  • Lylu (INT1)Lylu (INT1) INT1 Posts: 448
    Has anyone had a Co-op member leave their Co-op in week 2 or 3?  I would like to know if, when a Co-Op member leaves during the Santa List event, whether all the happiness they had contributed to the final deco happiness leaves with them or only whatever happiness they had contributed so far during the current week; ie, if a member leaves today (during week three) does the happiness they contributed during weeks one and two get removed from the accumulated deco total.  The official announcement is pretty clear that some happiness is lost, and seems to indicate that the lost effort would only be the current week's contributions.  I would love to hear from someone who checked their deco happiness before and after someone left their co-op that might be able to confirm how much is lost.
  • How our coop completed Week 2 only to fail at the very last second!

    We worked hard and communicated well all week and our team succeeded in filling all the open orders quite early on Sunday morning.  YAY!  We had a deputy checking to make sure we didn't miss any stray late starts.  Just seconds before midnight someone logged in and started a new donation.  Their order was literally split between Week 2 and 3.  There was absolutely no time to fix it! 

    So far only the deputy and I know we failed.  I haven't been able to bring myself to break it to the team yet.  The player who started the order has been out for a while due to a personal tragedy.  I'm sure they were just happy to log in and play and thought they were helping.  They weren't on long enough to read through a backlog of two weeks mail and try to understand a complicated event.
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    @freerange (US1)  That truly sucks.
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 07.12.2015
    OMG @freerange (US1) that is terrible and I can feel your pain!!! Kind of an awakening call for all of us. 
    What we do is:
    Every Friday evening we send the same coop message out repeating all the rules we agreed upon as a group. All those rules were spoken through with each other and explained thoroughly in the first week. One of the rules is indeed “if your percentage is 0% please do not start donations!” And the first rule in our coop always was "please read your in game messages first before harvesting or making any other move on your farms”
    I sincerely hope that things will go better for your coop these last 2 weeks of the event!
    Lots of success!
  • Brit773 (US1)Brit773 (US1) US1 Posts: 22
    I wish the information was clearer.  I understand that if EVERYONE in the coop that has started an order must be finished to 100% by Sunday night or you cannot go on to the next level.  But WHAT IF someone that has been away and does not know what is going on signs in and DOES start and order just before reset for the next week giving NO time for others to help and does not finish 100% or if someone starts thinking the new week has started (the time zones can be very confusing for some).  Does this mean it is IMPOSSIBLE to get the level 4 deco? Will there be a chance on the 5th week?  Should the coop cut its losses of time and valuable resources and quit?  I think once last chance Sunday starts, the possibility of starting an order should be locked or at least when all orders that have been started reach 100%.

    I feel this event has put some undue pressure on people just before the holidays.  Yes people can opt out for the entire week or even all 4 weeks, but then the coop has to settle for a lesser happiness value.  Should there be a sign above the tree ... "Play or Lose Out on Happiness!" ?
  • freerange (US1)freerange (US1) Posts: 135
    edited 08.12.2015
    Thx @Kamilcom (GB1) and @Jiesta (NL1)

    I agree that ideally everyone would read their mail first and most of the time they do.  But sometimes real life is hard and ideal flies out the window.  We are a flexible coop so we usually have a couple people facing major challenges.

    Plus members are unfamiliar with the concept that participation might be detrimental.  And I really don't want them to learn to hesitate to join in.  I think there is a lot about this event that is fun and challenging.  But the aspect of potential harm combined with some members feeling they need to sit out goes against what we're trying to build.  I disliked it from the very first time I read about it but have been trying to make the best of it. 

    We are having lots of fun with Rudolph and the snowman :smile: 
  • Kamilcom (GB1)Kamilcom (GB1) Posts: 1,499
    ... I feel this event has put some undue pressure on people just before the holidays. ...
    That's right. Any pressure a game like this puts on people is undue at any time. :) Relaxed fun and pressure are mutually exclusive. :) Cooperative system here is one of the biggest issues in this respect .

    @freerange (US1) I like about you that you stay with your feet on the ground and have your values sorted. It's not a job, family, ministry ............. it's by far less less less important than anything that has a real value in life. Any single minute of stress over this game is totaly wasted time and energy.
  • @freerange (US1)  & @Brit773 (US1)

    Freerange that is so disappointing for your coop, I still think new orders should be blocked from starting on a Sunday if all others are on 100% or 0%. We had the same thing happen on week 1, but fortunately we caught it in time to have the player rejoin the coop. Maybe as yours was on the reset time, your member might have thought it was their new list. :(

    The good news is that, I read somewhere in all the Q&A for this event, that you can afford to fail one week & still get the top deco, so this week you will still be adding happiness & it should all be ok in the end :)
  • Has anyone had a Co-op member leave their Co-op in week 2 or 3?  I would like to know if, when a Co-Op member leaves during the Santa List event, whether all the happiness they had contributed to the final deco happiness leaves with them or only whatever happiness they had contributed so far during the current week; ie, if a member leaves today (during week three) does the happiness they contributed during weeks one and two get removed from the accumulated deco total.  The official announcement is pretty clear that some happiness is lost, and seems to indicate that the lost effort would only be the current week's contributions.  I would love to hear from someone who checked their deco happiness before and after someone left their co-op that might be able to confirm how much is lost.

    We have had that in our co-op. Only what was donated the current week was lost, not the donations during previous weeks.
  • Lylu (INT1)Lylu (INT1) INT1 Posts: 448
    I have another question about the "have members leave the co-op on Sunday if they haven't made 100%" strategy.

    If a Co-op member "A" participates in last chance Sunday by contributing items to another member "B" who reaches 100% from the team effort.  But then, "A" has to leave because the team couldn't complete his/her order.  What happens regarding the items "A" contributed to "B"?  Do the items "A" contributed to "B" get removed from "B" in the same manner that the happiness "A" had contributed to the tree gets removed? This would mean that "B" would not be at 100% anymore.

    Anyone encounter this situation yet? what happened when your member "A" left the co-op?
  • CM NafaruCM Nafaru Posts: 1,325
    Has anyone had a Co-op member leave their Co-op in week 2 or 3?  I would like to know if, when a Co-Op member leaves during the Santa List event, whether all the happiness they had contributed to the final deco happiness leaves with them or only whatever happiness they had contributed so far during the current week
    Deduction of achieved happiness of leaving members is determined on a weekly basis. So only progress made in week 3 would be lost once this member leaves. :)
    If a Co-op member "A" participates in last chance Sunday by contributing items to another member "B" who reaches 100% from the team effort.  But then, "A" has to leave because the team couldn't complete his/her order.  What happens regarding the items "A" contributed to "B"? 
    All goods donated in order to help another player are associated to their lists, so that A leaving the cooperative would not change anything. B would remain at 100%.


  • Lylu (INT1)Lylu (INT1) INT1 Posts: 448
    Thank Nafaru for the definitive answers
  • Brit773 (US1)Brit773 (US1) US1 Posts: 22
    I see there are actually 5 levels to the deco.  I am still looking for the answer: (slightly changed)

    IF someone that has been away and does not know what is going on signs in and DOES start and order just before reset for the next week giving NO time for others to help and does not finish 100% or if someone starts thinking the new week has started (the time zones can be very confusing for some).  Does this mean it is IMPOSSIBLE to get the level 5 deco seeing as how the event only runs 5 weeks? Will there be a chance on the 5th week to obtain the level 5 deco if only level has been missed?
  • stef7 (US1)stef7 (US1) US1 Posts: 460
    edited 08.12.2015
    CM Popeye said:
    Hey everyone, I understand where you are coming from in regards to being a bit disappointed with the event. TBH, I though it would go over a lot better, but I do feel like the stress it causes outweighs the fun. I am collecting all of your feedback to bring to the devs, so we can make this event much better next time it runs. I really think this could be an amazing event, but it obviously needs some tweaking to reach its potential.

    -Popeye


    You want to improve it????  Dump it in the trash bin!!!

    Not only is this Event not fun it is killing coops and making people stressed out. 

    Worst event in the game and i buy gold all the time, and have played for 2 years now. More of this event I will have to stop playing. A game should be fun and this is making it as far from fun as you can get.
  • @Brit773 (US1)  I answered that for you a couple of posts ago... You can afford one fail & still get the top deco. BTW the event lasts for 6 weeks not 5, step 5 is 2 weeks long. :)
  • MRG1 (US1)MRG1 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,554
    edited 09.12.2015
    BTW the event lasts for 6 weeks not 5, step 5 is 2 weeks long. :)
    Uggh, so there is another week of this madness that no-one expected? Let me guess: we will be expected to finish off every incomplete order from the last 5 weeks in the 6th week. After we have no stock and no cash and no gold left. . 
  • tessa17 (US1)tessa17 (US1) US1 Posts: 106
    I skipped the 1st week because the value of the donations and time involved was just to large of a sacrifice.  The changes and addition of barn are fantastic.  To a degree.  The List still has a tendency to completely deplete a farms resources to an almost impossible degree.

    This week you all gave me 4,090 citrus.  Even at 3 times a day harvest I only get 800.  So I will end up paying out a few million farm dollars to buy what I can't make, stop making soap, and hopefully keep my stock fairly full just in case I get it again next time. Meanwhile I have co-op members who hit 100% without the special barn in 1 day.

    The 5,550 muffins order is another profit killer so thanks for that. As soon as the barn shows up I am buying whats left that I need so I can get back to making apple turnovers to pay for the muffins I need to buy.  

    I believe the lists should be made based what a persons farm should be able to produce in a week and maybe some of what they have in stock.  But depleting  entire stocks which  take a week or more to replenish is just to much.

    When it works out it is fun - When it doesn't not so much.
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