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What is not said is that it'll end 24 hours later. We'll see soon, I guess.
9PM PST is 12AM EST for me. We have an international co-op which makes for a bunch of different time zones. We waited for hours for last chance Sunday to start but it all worked out any way. My concern is, since we have the same amount of time left as the other servers, are we going to lose time on the last day? We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
I agree that this should have been made clear in the announcement. There's no need to dig through 20 pages on the forum to find it when it could have been made easier to locate. At least we know what to expect next time around.
@Jiesta Congrats to you and your team for completing your orders! We had a lot of great team work as well and helped everyone finish their orders! I have enjoyed this event so far and I would have to say last chance Sunday was by far the best day because everyone pulled together to help the ones that needed help. I'm very proud of our team!!!
I got mine, but I lost a lot of sleep or I wouldn't have. Some orders don't allow for any life except this game.
HOWEVER!!!! I'm not happy about this day 7 set-up. It seems that either we should be giving the other members EXACTLY the same items they were trying to collect, OR if we have to give them something more challenging for us, it shouldn't be the same exact thing we're trying to make for ourselves. Our co-op has everyone ALMOST (most of us are at 90+%) finished, but we can't quite make it because of this. We've used a ton of resources to get to this point and feel like today was a big fat TRICK to get us to use a lot of gold. The next few weeks will be better because now we know about day 7 but we've used so many resources at this point I'm not sure if we'll be able to make it.
GGS, you've always been great about making things right for us with these new events, and i know you will again here. Just wanted to throw out my two cents.
Blessings!!
Yes, I believe that for week 1, the event started around 1am PST on the US1 server for me for the 1st day. On the EN forum, Nafaru, CM told us right away that we would be a little short on the first day because unfortunately the event had started later than they had planned. On the US Server it was to have started at 9PM PST when the new daily tasks come out.
From Nafaru's Post:
Unfortunately the event started a little later than planned, so week 1 will have slightly less time than that. However, the balancing is designed to already take small issues like this one into account.
Link to the Post:
https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/2711101/#Comment_2711101
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**** Here is CM Latten's post from 11-26-15 on the EN Forum about the times for the event on the different servers and the link to it.
Yes, should be exactly that, 12 midnight Saturday CET, except for the US/BRA/HIS countries (which are timed differently). Basically the same time as the daily quest reset usually happens.
US: GMT-5
BR: GMT-4
HIS: GMT-6
JP: GMT+9
All other countries/Servers go 12 midnight CET
****In the USA that is currently at (9 PM PST)
https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/2718143/#Comment_2718143
The Festival Island Farm is the same as the Northern Lights temporary Farm and is available to players Level 30 and above. It is just decorated for the holidays and some of the items and rewards have been changed to include holiday themed items. It is an extremely expensive 30 day event and then everything on your temporary farm disappears. It takes many millions of farm dollars and a whole lot of time to win it all. Low level players can play it, click on the free worker gifts and get some of the island currency-ruenstones in this case to buy seed for the greenhouse. Once you enter a temporary farm, the ship will also ask for 2 fruits from the Island seeds in addition to the 4 items from your main farms. You can adjust the amounts of tropical fruits by using the green tab at the sides of the fruit. The ship will always ask for the maximum amounts of the tropical fruits that you have in stock.under week one tree branch its showing... (in progress)
THIS WEEK ONE WEEK TWO thing is very confusing...
plz...can someone explain it in a bit detail.
DO WE GET TO KEEP THE IGLOO WITH THE HAPPINESS WE ACHIVED? AND DO WE GET GO TO THE NEW LEVEL IF 5 OR 6 MEMBERS COMPLETE 100% AND OTHERS DONT PARTICIPATE AT ALL?
The information should have been more detailed. tsts...what a waste of farm products. me and few others feel like an idiot ryt now....
Now I just got a look at the new order... and my heart fell when I saw that it's as terrible as the first one. Our coop will not be taking part in this event further. With all our barns empty, cash low and morale down we simply can't and won't do that again. There are other events so we'll put our energy in those until the next coop event (hopefully more reasonable). We are a relaxed coop with none of the rigid rules that some coops have. Those of us that play for a relaxing easy fun filled time with just a touch of challenge to spice it up... we don't stand a chance. All we will accomplish is farms that will take ages to recover and not very much to show for it.
Don't get me wrong, I get that some coops are having a blast and making a great success of it and that's awesome. Really. I'm just saying that they are in the minority and I suspect that GG will be rather disappointed by the eventual results of this event.
Seeing the pride of some devoted gamers above, maybe some of us others should be proud we had enough sense not to plunge into the craze and invest our time and energy into something usefull instead? Now all of us can be happy and proud of ourself. hm?
Must I kick out anyone who isn't participating in Santa's wish list ?
All I donate just goes as extra on my own tally.
HELP !!!!
Zitella, Big Easy
this is the hotfix!???....also i donated all milk n lettuce to help my coop members....worthlessly...
now i am in a mess....and since few members completed 100% in my coop, includin me, my coop will kick me if i dont contribute.
thanks a lot GGS. RIDICULOUS Holidays to you too!
Zella, No you do not need to kick out anyone who is not participating in Santa's List. Players are free not to participate if they are going to be gone for the holidays, just choose not to, or do not feel that they can complete all 7 items to 100%, etc.. If they do not participate, they do not help or hurt the Co-op.
If you go to Santa's Event and open it, there is a # 1 above the Christmas Tree. Click on it and you will see everyone name and how much they have completed. Click on the green arrow next to their name and the screen will show you 7 items that they need help with or have completed and how much they have now. The figures have been converted to the same products that were on your list. The items for you to help with are the same as those on your own list and are shown in the bigger picture, in front of that is a smaller picture of what they were collecting for that spot.
If all orders are completed to 100%-all 7 items on each order to 100%, then the Co-op will move on to the next Deco. If not, they will keep the happiness they have earned, but must repeat the week and do not get the next Deco.
The 1st week, 7th day will end on the US Server tonight (Sun.) at 9PM PST, 12MN (Mon.) EST.
I cannot see asking people to leave a co-op just to come back. I cannot see just leaving because the people who have designed this disaster don't have a freaking clue. I will go on in our co-op, but I will not be doing this event from this point forward.
This is rediculous and I will not support GGS thinking it is wonderful. If anyone from the "company" took time to read these posts they would be disgusted with them selves and cancel this life sucking parasite of an event.
With that said, now I am home from work, I checked again and it is allowing me to donate for members with that symbol. I thought it rediculous and unfair that we are to help our co op members but then would let us (me) donate because member still had to donate something else. But again - I am not having that problem now. I was able to donate to co op members with that tiny symbol.
With all the great people sending me answers, I assume the problem was isolated. Perhaps I needed to just sign out and back or something like that. Thanks again everyone for you prompt replies/pms.!!!
(well lemme xplain)
well look at your own santa list and think of each item as a line number. When you go to donate to others - whatever they have on line five - you donate what YOU had on YOUR line 5. If someone notices something else - then please advise.
If my premise is true - make sure you keep storing up items that are on YOUR list even when your done. for 7th day - its not about what they need so much as what line number (their needed item) is for YOU!. You would give that product to donate no matter what other member needs on that corresponding line. If your line 5 was eggs - then another's unfullfilled line 5 - you must donate eggs.
It you farmers out there see that this is not correct please let us all know. Just thought I would put the idea out there.
Yes that is the post. Thank You. Here's the link to it:
https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/2718143/#Comment_2718143
CM Latten said on 11-26-15
Yes, should be exactly that, 12 midnight Saturday CET, except for the US/BRA/HIS countries (which are timed differently). Basically the same time as the daily quest reset usually happens.
US: GMT-5
BR: GMT-4
HIS: GMT-6
JP: GMT+9
All other countries/Servers go 12 midnight CET
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P.S. If you click on the date in any post that you want a link to, it will change to the address to that post in your address bar, then just copy paste it as needed. :-)
And the second week is still to difficult for many players. I an very disappointed with GGS, I thought they would have listened, and that the wish list would be doable for most members in a coop. I can manage fine, but most players at levels below 80 will probable struggle, especially if they can't play many hours a day.
In the Christmas spirit, the amount should be set, so that everyone who plays for 1/2 to 1 hour in the morning, and 1/2 to 1 hour in the evening should be able to do the event.
Orieo
Its the same in our co-op, we had people up late helping others and they show 1% or 0%. I tell them not to worry about those numbers. We don't know how its figured or if its even accurate. GGS has had to recalculate before.
I can say I'm not a big fan of the % showing (if its even correct by some standard) because some players can afford to donate more than others. It depends on how their farms are built, how often they can play, what products are needed, and who's online at the time. If we really need to know who is helping others, I think there could be a better way than showing the difference. I don't want people to feel bad because of the numbers that are based on who knows what....
I noticed the deco you're currently working on, has a lime green / neon green border around. We completed the event yesterday afternoon, CET, and we had delivered even much more then was needed in extra donations. Still, there's no igloo in my inventory. My happiness level has risen with 11.955 points/procent.
Quality is still at 1/7. How does that work? When is the quality going up? Has anyone figured that out? Or are we all at 1/7?
Congrats to those co-ops who have been able to complete the first step. Good luck to those who want to give the first step another try. I hope you've gotten easier orders.
My new order (level 35 farm) now has 1040 lettuce (this is probably the only item I won't be able to make with only 60 lettuce every 7 hours, or 90 if use humus) , 110 fertilizer, 11,880 pigs (luckily I've got 3 pigsties and a full barn, so that should be rather doable), 510 cherries (yay, filled those out immediately!), 1400 Almonds and 1380 Almonds (The first is already half filled with everything I had in my barn, so I hope to be able to fill these both) and last but not least 9230 apples (with a bit of luck I should be able to complete these too without a hitch).
My ducks won't be fed any lettuce anytime soon. They'll have to wait for next week......
Good luck to everyone!
The 2nd week just started on my server, and my list for week 2 is considerably harder, including substantially more pigs and milk than before (which are the parts I didn't finish - despite several hours a day of active play and frequent quick checks to collect and renew, I only reached 98%, falling short by ~1 harvest of each). Is the sh**storm of posts across multiple servers railing against this excuse for an event that hard to understand? I mean it had potential but the execution is Bush league at best.
I'm sad that your behavior has no doubt been rewarded financially, but I do have to say good job of catering to your whales. Why appease the masses who don't buy much (or any) if you don't have to, right?
I have spent most of the day reading all of the posts on the US and EN Forum and corresponding with my Co-op – 19 members and will be 20-21very soon. I use both forums because I started on the EN Forum and LOVE it. I have many Co-op members on both forums. I am posting this summary on both forums for that reason.
The Santa’s List event has the potential to be a whole lot of fun, and we were all very excited about it. But, IMO there are still many problems with it.
1. The Instructions were not clear in the beginning and left out the times that the event would start and end times for the 7th day. Since this is different on different servers, IMO it is a very important point to be included in ALL new events. We all know everything is in GGS CMT –German time, but we should be told what time that is going to be so that we can calculate our own local corresponding times. Then everyone has the same time available right from the start.
2. There are still many players on both forums asking about what happens if….., players don’t play, players don’t finish, if some finish, but not all, etc. Though many of those questions have been answered, the word is not out to all players. I very strongly believe that there should be an addition to the official announcements for this event, including this information, the information about what products a player can donate on the last day and the times for different servers, etc. It was mentioned that they would be different from the player’s products that we were helping. Why couldn’t we have been told ahead of time that we would need to “help” with the very same products that we ourselves were having trouble having enough of!!!!!!! Many of those amounts were impossible even for ourselves!!!
3. Over the past year and 8 months or so, I have seen threads in the Forum in which, the author takes information from players or CM’s and adds it to the first post. I think that it would be very good if a post such as Latten’s on the EN Forum (https://community.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/en/discussion/comment/2718143/#Comment_2718143) in which he told us about the times on 11-26-15, I have quoted his post below as an example.
“Yes, should be exactly that, 12 midnight Saturday CET, except for the US/BRA/HIS countries (which are timed differently). Basically the same time as the daily quest reset usually happens.
US: GMT-5
BR: GMT-4
HIS: GMT-6
JP: GMT+9
All other countries/Servers go 12 midnight CET”
****In the USA that is currently at (9 PM PST)
were 1) added to the official announcement or 2) Put in the first post—Important things to know: by the CM’s That way players could catch up on the official information easier than reading through hundreds and hundreds of posts and the information would not need to be repeated so many times on the Forum. Many times very important information has been left out of Official Announcements.
**** Even with this information, the corresponding time on the US forum would be 9PM PST. I just went to do some screen shots at about 20 min. to 9PM PST and all of the screens are blank now in preparation for week 2! What if we had been trying to complete that last 100% order during this time!!! NOT FAIR GGS!!!!!
4. This is supposed to be a Co-op TEAM event. There were allowances made for Holiday Vacations and that is a good thing. However a team event should inspire the team to do great team work TOGETHER. The ability to have a player’s record erased if they do not complete it by removing them from the Co-op and then reinstating them, in my opinion does just the opposite and should not be part of this event or any other! I know of NO other TEAM EVENT or TEAM SPORT in which a TEAM PLAYER OR TEAM MEMBER is asked to leave so that the team can win! Then whatever contributation they were able to make is totally thrown in the trash! The player also will not get the benefits from past Research when they are out of the Co-op working their farm. The records of their contributations in farm dollars and gold to the Co-op, records of participation in past projects will all be erased. I do know that some talked of doing this immediately, but I have also seen posts that they would be brought back the next day.
There are also players who resigned from their Coops fearing that they would hurt the Co-op. Some players have even quit the game. Not good GGS!!!!!!
I stand my prior post (Scissors on the EN Forum, this is my answer to your post) I WILL NOT REMOVE ANY PLAYER FROM MY CO-OP JUST BECAUSE THEY FAIL TO REACH 100% ON THEIR LIST! I personally do not feel that it is fair to them at all or fair to others that tried hard to have all of their work and efforts for the happiness points just thrown in the trash! They have sacrificed their time to play the game, do the event and be part of my Co-op and I WILL NOT do that!! This is my opinion on what is right and others can do as they want!
I read posts about what if I have a new Co-op member days into the event come and they start the event, just before it is to end! Well, folks that is exactly what happened to me today! I have had 2 other new members that I thoroughly told about the event BEFORE letting them in. Then, this morning, one of my members that has been on a LOA and ill, came back!!! I was so excited to have her back that I immediately sent the invite and began telling her not to touch the event. But, being a high level, very good, very active player, she was at it before I could get the information out to her! Oopsie on my part! This was early today-hours away from the end of the 7th day. English is her 2nd language too and she does very well with it most of the time. So, yes, your fears did come true in at least one Co-op! LOL She did pretty well filling up her order too, but of course there is just not time or resources to complete it. For this week, it is not an issue. NO WAY am I going to remove her, she just came back to us, what kind of a welcome back greeting would that be! Also as someone pointed out on the EN forum, we have an international server in which many players use translators to play and the GGS staff should know as well that translations do not always get the “correct” information across. This game is for players of ALL players of all ages, incomes and time availability. The event needs to be structured for that. Players should NOT be penalized for honest mistakes, for not having enough money to spend, or in the case of players under 18 for not being able to spend money for gold. Perhaps this event was designed with the movie ads in mind in which we got to choose 1 in 4 prizes, and could choose gold as a prize. The surprise boxes are a joke and I have not had any of them for several days on either browser (IE, Google Chrome) now. I can tell you that having a little more gold to play with was nice. I had even considered buying a bit more just for fun, a little naughty and nice, etc.. Then this morning, I clicked on Omar’s ship on the Island farm and somehow it opened to say that I did not have enough gold!!! Yikes!! Thank goodness I had not collected the gold from my mine or all of my savings for the past weeks would have been totally wiped out!!! Players have begged GGS to put in a Gold—are you sure you want to spend gold function into the game (it could be done so that players who don’t want it could shut it off too). Many players do not buy gold because of this! I’m disabled on a very tight fixed income, when I buy any gold, I want to be able to use it for it’s intended purpose and not lose it accidentally!!! IMO GGS could easily do this, they just choose not to. So, IMO they lose out on a whole lot of gold sales!! I may not buy a lot of gold, but I sure work hard to train a lot of players and support the forums and that IMO is valuable to the game too, and some of those players I know have bought gold too.
Events that have the potential to try to “force” players to buy gold, or use peer pressure for them to spend money they don’t have, or make them feel like less than a team player because they have families, work, etc, cause miscommunications, break apart Co-ops and have players leave the game do nothing to inspire Co-op teamwork or gold buying, or long term players.
Gee GGS don’t you understand the primary principal of any business- HAPPY CUSTOMERS (PLAYERS) MAKE GREAT CUSTOMERS AND A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS!!!!
There are a whole lot of players that are NOT happy with this event, especialy at the Holiday –
Christmas time! Most businesses want to do something nice for their customers now!! Come on GGS, please fix this event, it could be such fun!! Make it fair for all players, if some like a hard challenge, make different levels! Lower the amounts so we can have fun with it! Make the “help fair too” If I am helping someone else, let me help them with the products they needed from the start, not from my empty stores! I had to do 4,510 olives and 1,600 sweet scented oil which required olives too! I had 1 olive orchard level 5 – 85/6 hrs. or 2,040. Even with 2 maxed out level 7 Olive Orchards I could only make 95/6 hours or 4,560 olives if I never missed a harvest. I even bought $4,059,000 in olives, so my co-op would not have to help me. Then, when I went to help others who could not do step 5 and 6, my olives and oil, it wanted the same amounts!! NO WAY, IMPOSSIBLE, without tons of gold which I cannot do IMO totally wrong GGS! I do hope that GGS will do more to make this right!!!!! Lower the numbers please!!! We have families, holiday shopping, decorating, parties, children, work, etc. This should be fun!!!! I have worked VERY hard to build my Co-op and they do not like this event either, but they still worked very hard at it! We can only hope that the 2nd week is better and that GGS makes some additional changes!
My Co-op will not complete Week 1 at 100%. Some are at 100%, yes. We have players from brand new to well over a year of playing and maybe even older than that of all levels! I am VERY proud of all of their efforts and participation in this event! They ALL did a GREAT job and will keep the happiness points that they have earned!!!