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I see nowhere that I told anyone to stop bashing GG. What I said was "I think it is time to stop bashing GG", Please show me where I told people to stop. What I wrote was an opinion, not a directive.
Anyways what you described happening in your coop does not happen in a 30+ member international coop with people from over 20 countries. And some members needing translator for even basic english.
Anyways, we are likely ignoring rest of the event and keeping our gold with us...
DoomDark
For Last Chance Sunday the % also seems rather out of balance but really doesn't matter in the long run to me. We were able to get all orders done and are now busy refilling the barns. The stress of the unknown is in the past. Now we know the best plan for the rest of the weeks and are even more excited to get our new orders.
I personally LOVE the Santa Event and the new life it has brought to our coop. I used ZERO gold for the event, but did use some farm dollars, not a strain to my farm so I am ok with that. Lower lvl players were encouraged to do their best and not stress or create a hardship for their farm by using farm dollars during the week at all. We had some that needed lots of help, only 15% done in case that is a question.
We will work today to fill our vacant spots today and tomorrow.
Today we will work on refilling our barns and filling our vacant spots so we are ready for our new orders.
The whole coop will have to do the first week all over again. This is the understanding that I got from the announcement.
Which is going to be hard if we don't get everyone to 100%, because we have used up all of our items in our bakery and flower shop and those items took weeks/months to stock up.
If you give extra to your own list, you only get 100%. If you give extra to the other players in your coop, you get a number in the last column. All members who started their order have to get to 100% and become green, in order for your coop to be able to work for the next deco the coming week. Otherwise you will be working for the same deco next week, as you were this week.
If someone else finishes off someone's order I was working on, then I can just start helping the next
highest player. What I mean is, if you were trying to help someone with their cabbage, then someone
else finishes off their cabbage, now you have fields of cabbage you don't need anymore, or fields of whatever
you needed to do in order to fill their cabbage order...(unless of course, coincidentally someone else needed cabbage).
But if no-one else needed cabbage, you can't help the next person with their corn until your cabbage fields are cleared..
Also, if you were able to help everyone with what they specifically needed, you might deplete YOUR WHOLE
FARM, (and like I said earlier, someone else finishes something off, so you have to "throw out" what you were working on to get to the next order ~ of course, if you have a well communicating co-op, you can all try to decide who's helping who..but that sure would mean great communication and co-ordinating which could also be fun) then you would not be well prepared for the next week's order b/c you would be so depleted on EVERYTHING..so I think this format for the event kinda works...maybe just the totals should be lower...or at least not need raw ingredients and the finished product in the same order...BUT
maybe the totals are ok, if you have a full farm, and a fully participating co-op, and this is what
we are all trying to get to..or at least what I'm trying to get to..lol
Anyway, I guess I see Pros and Cons for this Event.
And don't we get the "frosty Igloo" or "snowbound cottage" or "glacier manor" as we crawl up the
tree...? Someone mentioned, we only get horseshoes or feed as consolation prizes if we don't do
100% all the weeks. Does anyone know?
Thanks!
Raggs ~ Leader of Froggy Acres
Don't you think that most of us are fully aware that some people are more devoted to the game then others, and that depending on circumstances, with a bit of luck with orders, good farm developement, enough devotion etc etc the thing can be done? Your oppinion / experience / devotion does not in any way negate or stand against the heap of "beeps" some other players are posting here. With a thing as unimportant for real life as sucessfull gaming is, pretty much every oppinion is valid and permitted, as it grows from very personal tastes and circumstances of each player.
FarmerJojo Bell commented eloquently and accurately on this event. Thank you!
Just out of curiosity I'd like to know if it really worked to have someone with low percentage help someone else to reach 100 percent, and have low-percentage then leave so as to reset themselves to 0. Did any of you experience if that would leave the 100 percent intact??
my coop otherwise had to get 100.000 items like appel eggs etc. that would be difficult enough.. wouldn't you think? i thought so!
ETA: yes, that's the reason. I donated all my cakes to someone (pointlessly, as a test) and got no percentages either, because they would have needed much much more.
Walking this process out (if I understand it correctly) there is 'single point of failure' in this event.
- Every Wish List that is started must be completed 100% w/in the week before the deco's quality level will increase
- If even one member who started a Wish List fails to achieve 100%, then the whole co-op has to start over from zero the next week - in terms of reaching a higher quality deco. (for the moment, I'm ignoring other benefits like payment for donated items or any increase in the deco happiness level)
- If 1 & 2 above are true, then a single member with a single mouse click over the span of 6 days could sink the combined efforts of the entire co-op by starting a Santa's List - say late in the week - even as late as Sunday! There is no back button for starting the List.
That just seems like a really, really BAD design flaw. As one person commented earlier, some members are having difficulty understanding the details of the event. If they think this event is like a co-op project or a mission, they will just start donating what they can. In my case, we added a member Sunday morning who immediately started their list (on the last day) w/out realizing the consequences. Fortunately, we have several who aren't going to make 100% so it doesn't really matter. Can you imagine what the effect would have been if we were all at a 100% & believed we'd achieved the next deco level? If I'm wrong here, PLEASE say so!I'm not the first to suggest this, GGS, but this 100% completion for all 7 items rule has got to go. It shuts down team participation in this event & it jeopardizes the combined 7 day efforts of the whole co-op.
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Questions: Last Chance Sunday column
WHY IS THIS?? Two in our coop - list says they need more apple pies. There is small symbol of fruit pies with cream. I am prevented from donating my apple pies to this member. Message says "this coooperative member has to donate fruit pies with cream. A third co op member - needs items I have but the am not allowed to cause "this cooperative member has to donate milk?
We have really worked hard this week to do well. I was completely shocked when I saw this. If we are to help each other on the 7th day then let us help each other!!!!!
This event would have been better if they had changed the bakery and had us making cookies (and milk) for Santa. As is, this would have been a great one week challenge, however, 4 weeks of maxing hours and production, it seems that the point of this event is to only empty out our barns and get us to buy gold for time reduction or bigger barns for more storage. I spent most of the last year in a wheelchair with only worker's comp to pay my bills, so buying gold has not been an option. Thankfully I have found a great coop that doesn't make you donate gold or "force" you to use it during events. A comment I hear a lot lately is: "real" farmers work less than this. GGS has this forum, maybe the could use it to talk to players about event before they happen. I think having, Santa, Asia, Piggels, AND The island event at the same time is going to cause burnout more than increased game play.
Just my 2 cents,
Tempest
The last chance "Sunday" for the US Sever starts on Saturday at 9PM PST when the new daily tasks come out and goes until 9PM Sunday PST.
We did clarify this on the forum, but I don't have time to find the post right now.
IMO ALL OF THIS INFORMATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE VERY CLEAR IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
The atmosphere was exactly as you described. Very active chat, lots of coorination, coop mesages...
It was hard but worht it. AND we are on www, coop of 40 members.
At first it was a big shock as we found out that everybody is short of backery products. After firts attack of panick, we organised and everything went smooth.
Most members were at 100% around midday, but we had two players left that had almost no cakes to begin with. We negotiated with them to leave the coop and come back on monday if we fail to fill their lists, but at the end, that was not nessesery at all. Everybody finished by now, except five that are absent and did not start the game at all.
Anyway, it was real preparation for hollidays: everybody baked cookies and cakes
Hopefully, next week wont be much harder than the first one.
Everyone in my coop that started an order is done 100%, but I didn't get a special message to acknowledge this great achievement for week 1. Only 1 member was away and didn't start anything so that shouldn't count and is greyed not giving anyone the chance to donate so I assume it is fine...
It was very demanding for me to help out on Last Sunday because the tasks that had not been finished were the baked goods mainly fruitcakes and apple pies, but it let me donate almond muffins instead of fruitcakes. The problem with that is that I had 4 members with unfinished tasks demanding exactly the same thing from me, almond muffins, exactly the same thing I had to donate for my own order...very unreasonable to ask for so many almond muffins from me when my tasks included almonds and almond muffins...
So my coop managed to finish all the orders it had started 100% but only because of great participation, eventhough the Last Sunday donation options were ridiculous, asking them for exactly the same baked goods their own list had had...
LMAO
But seriously, those amounts are really huge, and makes it really hard for non-gold buyers.