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The current system seems to assume that high level players don't need help with filling their items. I don't think this is true. Not every high level player can be at their computer for a sufficient period of time (especially during a festive season) to meet his/ her huge orders. If a high level player is short of 5000 apple pies on day 7th, let it be that other members, including lower level ones help to make up the 5000. This is enough of a challenge in itself.
Changing the amounts and type of product is arbitrary. As of yet, there is no transparent way of knowing whether the change is proportionate to the shortage. Even if the change/ conversion is made known to us, it is difficult to justify the qualitative difference (type of goods).
Also, changing the amount of product will prevent players from helping more players. Isn't the Christmas spirit enhanced when we can give and help more players in a substantial way? It is not to say there are a few players who need help.
I understand the main reason for varying the type and amount is to ensure that the high level player gets a suitable challenge for his/ her level, thereby not making the event too easy to complete. This is unnecessary as it is a huge challenge in itself to meet existing orders. If 5 lower level members are short of 2000 olives each, the higher levels would need to produce 10000 olives. Is that not a huge challenge already? Changing those 10000 olives to say 50000 apple pies in order to ensure it is a 'suitable challenge for his/ her level' seems to make the event harder than it already is.
I understand there are concerns about lower level players not being able to produce the required goods to help the higher level players. But this concern can be mitigated as there are many other goods the lower level player could help out with. If at all, it will spur him/ her to level up in order to help.
Changing the type of product will lead to people making empty promises and feeling hurt/ demoralised.. Consider this:
during the week
Player X: "I need help with 2000 olives"
Player Y: "sure", I got your back."
on sunday...
Player Y: "oh sorry it says I now need 5000 apple pies. I can't make that in 1 day, really sorry."
How will both players feel?
Last, I echo comments made that the amounts required are very substantial and not suitable for casual players looking for fun.
And, according to CM Nafaru:
"The higher your level, the higher the happiness can get. Overall you could create a quality level 7 decoration. That's a higher happiness/square ratio than was ever reached by any decoration previosly. And to top that all off, it's animated!"
I take this to mean;
Low level players will get a deco worth nowhere near what you can get in other events. The potential for creating a quality level 7 decoration is only for high level players that give their all, play 24/7 and have gold/seaweed on hand to donate the excessive requests by the anti-Santa. We already know that even higher level players are saying WHAT?! to the amounts of donations required for this event. And that doesn't even take into account the fact that people have already been using Greta to increase the happiness of existing deco. Some of those upgrades, for many players, probably already exceed the happiness level that can be earned with deco from this event.
In addition, the deco will be animated, so get your magnifying glass out because I'm sure those animations will be the players getting "a" finger by the deco. Else, the animation may be of the deco laughing AT you.
But what does higher happiness/square ratio than was ever reached by any decoration previously really mean? I'd not be surprised if it was ONLY one point more of happiness per square than other deco. You are to want the deco because you are told that it is GREAT, but that doesn't mean the reality will match or exceed all the ggs hype.
But then, if you believe all the ggs hype, then you are already doing all you can do to do whatever they want you to do, including blindly jumping into any and all events, just because ggs gives you what ggs thinks is fun. Well, to be fair, it is fun to ggs how much money ggs can get from people that will pay anything to be entertained 24/7 with just a credit card number. Or for those that are so competitive they MUST win/be number one, at all costs.
Of course, the game isn't riddled with lag inducing bugs, so I can only imagine what all those animations will do, if they are earned. Not just for the players that have earned them, but for those visiting those farms. I have so much lag and stalling while watering trees that it is no longer fun to water as it used to be. I water to get it done, nothing more. And harvesting my farms isn't predictable because sometimes there is so much lag I have to log out several times just to complete harvests. I have a life, so sometimes I only have a few precious minutes to do what is needed in game.
But we know that ggs isn't concerned about lag and ggs doesn't test the new additions to our game, not even the rewards. How long has it been that the co-op cherry orchards can not fulfill the usual cherry orchard tasks? Since the very first co-op challenge, if you didn't know. That was over a year ago.
Your credit card money is hard at work making your life much more FUN.
Hip hip hooray for progress and anti-Christmas!! Now it is clear to me what ggs really thinks Christmas is all about. Although, I have no problems seeing clearly what the objective for this game has always been - give ggs your money, give ggs more money, disregard your personal hygiene needs, give ggs more money, ignore other life commitments, give ggs more money, pay less attention to your spouse and loved ones, give ggs more money, neglect your kids, give ggs more money, lose your job, give ggs more money, borrow money you can't pay back, give ggs more money, DIE, and be sure to put ggs in your will because being dead is no excuse to not give ggs MORE money.
Welcome to 2016 and the new tax collectors.
The deco is animated!!!!!!!!
What a COMPLETE DISASTER....
At the best of times I cannot feed all my ducks.
Now they want me to DONATE 5000 Lambs Lettuce a week, which is
a quantity IMPOSSIBLE for me to achieve.
Lots of other members of my Co-Op are similarly unimpressed.
OPT-OUT is the only solution, unless the numbers are reduced by a
factor of 10x.
Above all other complaints....the mediocre prizes for each happiness level creates very little incentive.
ETA: co-op members don't have the same list...so help can happen. still wrapping my mind around this one
I am lvl 165, so I have a bank roll to get started on island but I also know that I normally use all I have and can make over the course of the month. I don't really need any more upgrades on farm, only have 2 side tasks on g farm left, main and flower are done.
The lower lvl players in the coop are already feeling the pain of this event, and yes there is panic. People want to have fun, the northern lights is a seasonal island not just a repeat of the same island. People need seeds to fill the ship.
I thought the point was to add fun and expand the game not force people to choose between the different parts of the holiday special events. I know there is the gold option but many many many people are on fixed incomes and remember it is the holiday season to there are added expenses already.
The hard work rewards when compared to those we get in other events are small and borderline insulting.
I want to be excited and have fun with this but it is really hard to do at this point especially when I see the lower lvl players in the coop struggling already.
Have a nice day
I need to harvest 80hours to complete 1st week in game... impossible, lets forget this failure.
Of course with gold it would be different but...
I am also a gold user but I will NOT be using any gold at all on this event
and I will seriously be considering the use of gold in any future events
One of my orders is for 5,540 Summer Bouquets. Even if I had 2 fully upgraded blue barns I would still need to produce over a 1100 but I don't. I have 2 fully upgraded red barns but I don't much of this product in stock.
I have 68 in my inventory, so I need to make 5472 by Sunday. They are a 6 hour product so at best considering I need to sleep and eat, I can make 3 batches a day. I do have a fully upgraded Shop so I make 358 every 6 hours. I will need to make 16 batches of 358 to have enough to complete this order.
Where is the balance in that? I have to run my Shop non stop until Sunday with Summer Bouquets and hope I don't miss a harvest?
we are not even participating in this event. dont make assumptions about brat pack that you dont have facts to back up.
It's the start of the event and I'm assuming most people have their barns full of most items (barring the odd pasta gift basket, etc.).
Also, this is the supposedly easier week.
Your posts are most informative and constructive ... and thus helpful! Thanks again!
Having already started the event without fully comprehending the consequences, I feel forced to do my best to complete it to the best of my ability. I am at level 170, and the leader of my coop. If I fail to complete my order, my entire coop will be expected to finish it. So I spent (so far) $9.975 million to buy what I can buy, (still leaving me with just barely enough wheat, peaches, and olives to continue to work the farm). I am lucky that I have lots of cash, otherwise I could not do this. It will still be a challenge for me to produce enough Pasta Baskets, Muffins, and Essence of Jasmine over the course of this week.
NOT a happy farmer. Thanks for being such a grinch, GGS.
You got it!! I'm Level 98 and NO WAY can I possibly fulfill all that they want without A. Starving all of my animals and B . GOING BANKRUPT. THey're asking for over 40,000 apples---and that's just in the FIRST WEEK. PLUS--they won't even tell us what this wonderful "secret decortation" is that we'll earn. I am NOT playing after this week, and no WAY I will donate anything that takes 14 hours to grow. There is NO way that I can feed my animals and orchards, fields, etc. AND donate everything I make every day to this stupid "mission". This is absolutely RIDICULOUS.
WHAT the heck was wrong with the way we were doing it for the past 2 years??? Oh--right. Too simple and GG wasn't making any money on it. I had something to look forward to by just collecting stuff that came out of the fields & stuff, i.e. ornaments or whatever you needed to accumulate to get a cute little tree. This is just GREED. Thanks for being Scrooge, GG. I don't give two furry rat rears about getting the "mystery reward" decoration at this point. I'm not about to bankrupt myself for the sake of some stupid decoration when they can't even tell us what it is or how much our "reward" is going to be worth--or the size. Sad, really. Was so much more fun and no pressure the way they did it the last two years. Oh well, here's a holiday message to ya', GG---BAH HUMBUG.
OH...P.S. I could kick myself, because I just realized that, before I figured out what a ripoff this whole scam is, I donated 855,000.00 worth of floral perfume for this lost cause, in addition to all my chicken feed and lamb's lettuce. Too bad I didni't learn this lesson before I blew almost a million bucks.... Stick a fork in me--I'm DONE with this garbage.
Also, what if the "help" period was Friday - Sunday (3 days) of the week? How could that be so bad? - Especially with holiday schedules.
@ gavinfarms - it doesn't matter what they need, you will get completely new order if you have to help them i.e. they can't complete apples, but you'll be asked to donate wheat instead