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event currency has been disable for now as reported by Steffi, so question is where is that gold mainly.
The other thing missing from that list is karma points.
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me want gold too ;(
*thanks for sharing news btw*
I only listed the actually stated reward, not the etc. part
Good to know gold does come, and I missed Steffie's comment.
3 gold ? ? ? And that even once in a blue moon? :thumbdown: Not a strong incentive.
How much did it cost in dollars? Can you find out for us?
Has someone had a light purple?... Highest I have seen claimed so far is a 99 (which is still in the dark purple range) Who got a level 100? ...& Congrats! :thumbsup:
That was me, but was half asleep when it happened and didn't even notice til I saw the gold pop up next to the dollars received.
If it happens again I will make notes.
You sure someone hadn`t sparkled your chickens & you didn`t notice until you harvested?
Sounds like someone gifted your chicken, the sparkles are hard to see. So most only know when that karma comes out of collecting a field or animals.
Oh bless you.
Has anybody figgured out how much time it takes for the neighbours to drop from 20 % to zero? They seem to decline pretty fast. I'm still missing that timer on neighbours. It's just blind work unless you saw them comming..
I've given goods to a neighbour the second they asked and got no smiley face big bonus. Random like everything else.
Looks like a bug to me of some sort.
Yes... it does happen to me randomly from to .
I have had additional 99's (four in total). I am beginning to suspect that it could be the ceiling. It does correspond to a perfectly rounded 25.00 percent. It does not explain what light purple would be for, but the numbers have always gone up in larger jumps. Seeing this string of 99's......it certainly makes me think.
No, the "market upgrades" remain. They are based on number of contracts done and never decrease. Contract levels have nothing to do with the market appearance, though a person is likely to be going up in levels at the same time, so it may appear to be the case.
1) As far as I can tell, there is no way to definitively know when a contract will expire. This means that there is a very high chance that contracts will expire with goods already allocated to them. Why would anyone enter into a contract that could expire unexpectedly?
2) Goods that have been allocated to a contract are lost if the contract expires unfulfilled. Yes, one can spend inordinate amounts of gold to complete the contract, but some players cannot obtain such huge amounts of gold, and I, for one, don't wish to waste my gold in this manner. If we do not spend the gold, we lose the potential income from goods that are lost, EVEN THOUGH THOSE GOODS WERE NEVER DELIVERED TO THE BUYER. This is not reasonable, and it counterbalances whatever profit we might gain from successfully completing a contract.
3) The number and quantity of goods required to fulfill a contract often empty my barn of one or more products, and many of those products are either difficult to replace or are necessary for the production of other, more valuable, products. In fat, several contracts often require the same product, which means that I have none of that product for days at a time.
4) The amount of dollars that we make when we successfully complete a contract does not begin to compare with the dollars that we can make by not using the market at all, especially when the losses from unfulfilled contracts are taken into consideration.
So what do you think of the new Organic market?
There's lot posted in this thread about declined contracts, so just a quick summary:
- while you only have 2 or 4 contracts, decline gives you only 30 mins cool down time. Aftern that you get new contract instead
when you have 6 contracts, appart from cool down timer:- contracts with zero value stay zero, nothing changes
- contracts with higher value then zero can drop in value
decline doesn't effect the market itself. It stays at whatever level of upgrade it reached...........................
As there is loads posted regarding your queries also, I'll explain you just this one, but it covers nearly everything in your post anyway. Maybe somebody else will address other points.
Some aspects of the market can be tricky and confusing at times, but in general, organic market is a very good tool. Whatever is not perfect yet, the devs are working on it's finetuning. When properly used, it can bring small or substantial dollar increase, mostly dependant on the strengths of farmer!s economy. The market sort of follows your development with the contracts it offers. The stronger you get, the more profit you can make on the market. Very low levels can succesfully use at least neighbours, which offer up to 21 % bonus on single item sales, so easy to manage and pick which sale to accept.
Neighbours have minimum +1 % on top of direct sale as part of their displayed dollar amount. I overloked it for days before I got the idea to actually check this number. (Not tested systematically, so assume it's general rule. Somebody check it if you will.)
On top of that 1 guarantied percent there is those up to + 20 % which drop as separate package. If they don't drop when neighbours are served right after arrival, it looks like a bug.
Hey gavinfarms,
we had your contracts checked quickly by our bug-analysts and they confirmed that everything is fine with your contracts. One contract type should still be at 99 while another one just reached 9.
Your high level one should re-appear sooner or later.
Yo Kamilcom!
Can confirm. This is the small bonus we mentioned in the announcement.
Cheers,
Steffi
Just now followed the little fat farmer as he walked to the stand, immediately clicked for sale of milk, and got 11%. What salesman is going to sell something and not know what he's going to get for it?
The Market got off to a very bad start, but I would not recommend giving up on it yet!
Well, I have kept a spreadsheet and calculated my transactions on the Market.
I started after the last update.
94 Contracts, no skips, Profit Total $166,495
56 Neighbors, Profit Total $778,744
$166,495 + $778,744 = $ 945,239 Total Profit! I can use that kind of money and it will only go up!
It is not affecting my other farm operations in a negative way as I am very careful to keep things balanced.
I am a Level 121 player.
Now after playing awhile, I understand that the Neighbors will give a bonus of up to 20% the faster you are when you click on them.
The contracts show their bonus in the Little square that has the number on it. Just hover your mouse over it (Thanks to Scissors for letting me know this!) It says: Value (X being the same as the number in the box), Bonus per reward y %. These bonuses go up too.
Value 0 = 0
Value 2 = 3.43%
Value 7 = 8.26%
Value 8 = 8.93%
I'm sure others could fill in more up to Levels in the 40's and maybe beyond that too. I'm a bit behind on the forum.
I've only had 1 Vendor which wanted $150,000 for a ?, so I did not do him!
So, for me, I like the Market and that added profit, especially for things that are NOT ingredients, is a reason to keep doing it. No other way to get more money for them without gold! That amount will only go up and for things I have an excess of that are not ingredients, it is a nice bonus. Yes, we do have to watch out for the ingredients for our Flower shop and Bakery, but in time I will balance that too. So far, I have been able to keep them going as I want them to be. Still too many cherries, peaches, and apples being requested, but I am dealing with it. Some ask for as little as 10 of these items. It was very hard during the fairtale event, trying to get apples for it, apples for the Ship, Apples for contracts, etc. I have 4 Apple Orchards, 2 Level 6, 2 Level 7. In time my excess apples managed to do it all. I'm choosing not to skip contracts, so I won't have the penalty. I can wait if I need something. IMO no hurry, the market will be here for a long time. I do not let my storage bottom out. I get it to the Level I want before I fill a contract, then replace the item.
CM's.....
**PLEASE, IT WOULD REALLY HELP IF THE LIMITED CONTRACTS COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT COLOR BACKGROUND WHEN IT SAYS LIMITED CONTRACT TO DRAW OUR ATTENTION TO IT.
** Also, I am finding it difficult to see the neighbors, because that part of my screen is frequently behind all the timers. Something I am trying to work on.
My contrcts went from 0-11 on some, not sure how that all works, have several different levels now on different contracts. Maybe as I fill so many of one kind of contract i.e. University, has something to do with it.
Well, back to catch up on the forum.
When the Neighbors buy your products, you get the money and the bonus they give you for filling the order fast, the Neighbors take your products home with them!
When the Contract is filled, you sell your product to the Company that sent you the contract, they pay you in farm $ and other things and perhaps a bonus too! Then the truck delivers your product to the company.
You can't sell your products and keep them too.
Thanks Jiesta, Great Explanation. I like the new Market.
The purpose of the Market has to be another way for Players to make farm dollars, otherwise why would we ever play it?
Players at all levels should have the same bonuses, etc. Do not penalize players for staying with the game and leveling up, if anything, the bonus should increase as players level up! Another reason to keep playing!
Edit by PINJO: merged posts, please use edit button
to be honest the market showed a great potential, as it is obviously result of a genius idea and it has awesome interface and could be even the best update in past 2 years in balancing the whole game, but...
I guess once again while developers and designers and etc did a super job,
the balancers did a loose job again though.
whether market is good or bad is out of question totally though, since one can always ignore it and it won't disrupt any part of one's previous balance in the game and it is not part of any super important cycle or whatever in the whole game anyway(unlike ship>temp farm>greenhouse>horse, etc cycle), it is just an extra, like machines. but if one says, it could/can be "soooooo much better, than it is now" then I agree too.
@GGS: I will say again, with the current market system, after one upgrades it to the max, there is no point in doing 3+ item contracts, and there is also no point in going above 40-50 value either, and rather it might be optimum to "not go" higher than that actually, since in higher value contracts the super higher quantities of items and lack of "any noticeable difference in % bonus and extra prizes amount/rate" will make higher value contracts actually a bottleneck only with no real benefit.
say for example if i can get a 10k apple contract at 40 value with max 10 karma points, and finish it in 6 hours and have a chance to get another "karma" contract. then:
why should I go higher and do a 45k apple contract at 70 value with max 10 karma point again? as that will take like 2 days to finish at least. and will block "1" contract slot = meaning less chance to get "another" karma contract.
and that is just an example for "value" inefficiency that exist atm. regarding the 3+ item contracts, they just seem useless totally atm anyway.(at least the standard ones) so "unless" balance their requested quantity/ or make them give much better rate and different prizes than other contracts, then they will probably join oblivion forever.
Thank You Very Much Scissors!!!!! I went from 4 to 6 contracts today and the numbers in the boxes started changing, lots of them are different. It's nice to know and be able to see that I am getting bonuses now!! Yeah!:)