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Update Oct 23rd - The Horse Ranch - Discussion

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  • ioio12ioio12 Posts: 1
    edited 26.10.2014
    where do u want to go

    thank u how do i get horseshoes



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  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 27.10.2014
    pro farm3 wrote: »
    did anyone saw the truck?!

    what truck?
  • farmerjojobell2farmerjojobell2 Posts: 36
    edited 27.10.2014
    kbahr0072 wrote: »
    what truck?

    I think they are referring to the little jeep that pulls the competition horse trailer... Jeeps don't pull horse trailers!! I noticed that right off, I thought it was weird too. 8|
  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 27.10.2014
    you get horseshoes from the ship, and golden horseshoes from competitions to use for upgrading your horsefarm structures
  • AnnaStekpanna (SKN1)AnnaStekpanna (SKN1) Posts: 31
    edited 27.10.2014
    For the moment.. i don't think horse farm is any fun.
  • Dara (SKN1)Dara (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 2,638
    edited 27.10.2014
    Will they be visually quite similar to the horse we have now?
    - Or will they look different (other colors and maybe a little different body-building)

    I hope they will look different... Now it looks like a "my little pony"... ;)
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 27.10.2014
    Artmaker wrote: »
    Ok, thought I'd just play the horse thing and figure things out but I'm stumped.


    Is there a manual somewhere?

    1. I have a task to upgrade the show circle. But when I try it says not possible. Looks like I need 20 gold horseshoes. SO WHERE do you find out how many you have? HOW do you get GOLD horseshoes? I have been collecting horse shoes since the last round of island farm. Now they need to be gold??? WHERE? HOW?
    No clue here what to do.

    2 Complete agility training. There are three bars for training. I found the tabs on top to pick one, but what do the numbers mean? And unlike the dog, there seems to be no animation to go with the horse what so ever.
    Is that coming?

    3 Win race. Immediately brings up a window with "skip" or just click it off. Which is what I do.
    I never see any race, and almost right away I win. And that window has back, or just click the red corner to close. (Why they put a close button on a window you can just close has always puzzled me.)
    But back shows details (and I see now, the gold horseshoe. ok, win stuff.)

    So this horse has no action to it at all? Just click click click is all we do here? Is there some prize at the end of it all?

    1. Gold horseshoes are found in inventory -> equipement. You have to go to the second page of equipement, though. You gain gold horseshoes by wining the race against one of the caracters.

    2. As Latten mentioned, animation is coming. If I understand correctly the number in your star is the level of your horse. You need certain number of points to reach the next level. The number in your bar shows you how much. Similar principle as XP and leveling up.

    3. If you do not press skip, ranch hostes will coment a competitions for a few seconds. This is as close as you will get to animation. At the end of the race, you can click either close or details in which you can see which horse has a better statistic and for how much.

    Hope it helps.
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 27.10.2014
    Pietral2 wrote: »
    Do the NPCs eventually cap out at a certain level?

    I'm concerned that if the NPCs keep gaining stats after they lose, and we cap out at level 10, then the NPCs will eventually become impossible to defeat. That would mean that we can't earn any more competition horseshoes after that point, meaning that we would only have a limited number of competition horseshoes to earn. And if that's the case, I wouldn't want to waste my precious competition horseshoes on upgrading the training facilities.

    Why do you think we cap out at level 10? Only training areas have a cap, not training itself. You can train your horse as much as you will untill you run out of horseshoes and you are constantly getting those form the capitan.
  • sdfktgksdfktgk Posts: 140
    edited 27.10.2014
    upgrading the training areas is supposed to allow you to use more horseshoes, I thought. Currently level 4 and still the same 4k allowable?
  • Ria_ ()Ria_ () Posts: 280
    edited 27.10.2014
    Nope, just more of those shoes go for normal training (gives more points than intensive).
  • Jumbo Whiffy (GB1)Jumbo Whiffy (GB1) Posts: 44
    edited 27.10.2014
    Ever since the island first started I have stopped buying gold. Because if I had continued to it would be the equivalent of pumping large amount of money into a car fund but not knowing whether I would get a Porsche or a Robin Reliant at the end of it. I wonder how many others have done the same. Probably quite a few when you notice that the themed events are popping up more often in order to squeeze more gold out of us in other ways. I will only start spending gold again when the stable becomes fun and profitable, which I have my doubts that it will!
    I feel there are too many ingredients in this game now and its beginning to spoil the taste!
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 27.10.2014
    Since we have been given no instruction as to how the horse ranch is supposed to operate, how are we expected to form an effective strategy? This is a strategy game, right? Is it buggy? Who knows? Is it working the way it should? Who knows? So we are left to do the only thing we can do. Whatever it will LET us do!
  • afar (INT1)afar (INT1) Posts: 87
    edited 27.10.2014
    Jumbo Whiffy wrote: »
    Ever since the island first started I have stopped buying gold. Because if I continued to it would be the equivalent of pumping large amount of money into a car fund but not knowing whether I would get a Porsche or a Robin Reliant at the end of it. I wonder how many others have done the same. Probably quite a few when you notice that the themed events are popping up more often in order to squeeze more gold out of us in other ways. I will only start spending gold again when the stable becomes fun and profitable, which I have my doubts that it will!
    I feel there are to many ingredients in this game now and its beginning to spoil the taste!

    Jumbo, I TOTALLY agree with you. Even if I am to buy gold, the gold will disappear, like how the island just disappeared yesterday. And, all the gold leaves me, is a waterfall or star spheres.

    Horse, be nice to us, and give us some farm dollars or something good. Chicken feed or pig feed or cow feed is not worthy of the amount of horseshoes we spend for you.
  • Pietral (US1)Pietral (US1) US1 Posts: 163
    edited 27.10.2014
    aaabbb1 wrote: »
    Why do you think we cap out at level 10? Only training areas have a cap, not training itself. You can train your horse as much as you will untill you run out of horseshoes and you are constantly getting those form the capitan.
    Your horses' 3 attributes can be improved by training on the training grounds.
    Training your horses takes horseshoes and rewards you with training points which are needed to increase attribute levels. Each attribute can be raised to level 10 for now, more levels will follow with a later update.

    While eventually we'll be able to get more levels, who knows when that update will come - it could be next year for all we know. And even with the update, we still might be capped at another level, so the same logic still applies.
  • Lexc13Lexc13 Posts: 18
    edited 27.10.2014
    farmerjohn 22 wrote: »
    Since we have been given no instruction as to how the horse ranch is supposed to operate, how are we expected to form an effective strategy?

    What exactly do you call that long announcent post?
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 27.10.2014
    I think Farmerjohn refers to the figures of percentage, points next to it and how training affects the result of the competition, because from what i have seen and read here in the forum, the outcome is a matter of luck and not training.
  • Lexc13Lexc13 Posts: 18
    edited 27.10.2014
    Okay I guess I can get that. But it's explained that certain attributes will factor in to particular comps differently, which seems pretty straightforward. But it does say sometimes you can get lucky.
    I've been playing around with it and it doesn't really seem all that complicated. I've noticed though that some people really overthink this game.
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 27.10.2014
    eagle owl wrote: »
    I think Farmerjohn refers to the figures of percentage, points next to it and how training affects the result of the competition, because from what i have seen and read here in the forum, the outcome is a matter of luck and not training.

    Exactly! I read the Official Announcement over several times and there is no mention of the percentages and points and what they mean. You just race until you lose, then train, then race again. Are we wasting horseshoes? Probably. And as far as I've seen at this point, quite a few players are confused as well. It's not overthinking if you just want to understand how something works.
  • Lexc13Lexc13 Posts: 18
    edited 27.10.2014
    Excuse me I took your words literally when you said we got no instruction to how the ranch worked. I understand the percentage thing. I ignored the percentage for the time being and used common sense. If you lose a race look at which training you are low on and if seems like something that would be factored in I would guess that's it. Like if you lose a race you should train on agility or endurance, if you lose jumping maybe strenght and agility. But that's me, I don't need every detail explained to me, I figure trial and errors always a way to try it. I don't see how you could waste horseshoes since in the long run all training and upgrading will probably be beneficial.
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 27.10.2014
    Even though it is a lengthy announcement (which is very good), some aspects aren't efficiently explained. I would really appreciate an official answer from a mod or CM about them (percentage, points, competition results).
  • muggle1 (GB1)muggle1 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 124
    edited 28.10.2014
    AnnaStekpanna2 wrote: »
    For the moment.. i don't think horse farm is any fun.

    I completely agree, I have just been having a whinge in my coop. I know it is just the first stage, but it is seriously going to need to be better than this to justify a month long expensive event like the island. I am really not interested in racing farm characters in non-visible races, and all our horseshoes buy us are 4 hour long periods of watching a horse stand in the mud. Dull doesn't begin to describe it.
  • SayaAkiSayaAki Posts: 3
    edited 28.10.2014
    So does anyone know if the 'bonus' we get from upgrading the training area increases with the amount of horseshoes we use?
  • Kate151Kate151 Posts: 66
    edited 28.10.2014
    I actually think the GGS team are doing a pretty good job with the horse ranch :)

    As far as the training regimens and competitions go, it's way more realistic than I dared hope for.

    What I mean is, you've taken into account the way horse training actually happens. Too much too soon doesn't work as well as a steady program of improvement. That seems to be what you've worked into the training slider and points system.

    Even to attempt a simulation of this was a big ask!

    I'm looking forward to seeing the breeding program in action. :thumbsup:
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 28.10.2014
    Yes, at every lvl you upgrade the training grounds, you gain +1 training point. Lvl 4 training ground gives +4 points, total 264 for intensive training. Not much of a help, when you need 1225 for advancing to lvl 9 skill.
  • Andy128 (RU1)Andy128 (RU1) RU1 Posts: 2,526
    edited 28.10.2014
    eagle owl wrote: »
    Yes, at every lvl you upgrade the training grounds, you gain +1 training point. Lvl 4 training ground gives +4 points, total 264 for intensive training. Not much of a help, when you need 1225 for advancing to lvl 9 skill.

    I see it a bit different :

    1 lvl

    400 horseshoes = 40 points (normal training), 4000 horseshoes = 220 points


    2 lvl

    800 horseshoes = 80 points + 2 points (normal training), 4000 horseshoes = 240 points + 2 points


    3 lvl

    1200 horseshoes = 120 points + 3 points (normal training), 4000 horseshoes = 260 points + 3 points

    I don't have 4 lvl training grounds, but I can guess:

    4 lvl

    1600 horseshoes = 160 points + 4 points (normal training), 4000 horseshoes = 280 points + 4 points

    and so on...
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 28.10.2014
    Maybe i didn't notice that intensive training increased to 280, i can't ckeck it out now though because of the update. But it is certain that every lvl gives +1 point.

    Edit: You are absolutely right Volty! it is 280!!! that's actually good, thanks for pointing it out ;)
  • Andy128 (RU1)Andy128 (RU1) RU1 Posts: 2,526
    edited 28.10.2014
    eagle owl wrote: »
    Maybe i didn't notice that intensive training increased to 280, i can't ckeck it out now though because of the update. But it is certain that every lvl gives +1 point.

    I don't want to argue, but +1 point per lvl is a bonus, and the main reason to update is
    Upgrades of each training ground up until level 5 will push the transition from regular to intensive training farther to the right side of the slider, making the training less straining for your horse and more effective in terms of horseshoes spent for training point gains.
  • SayaAkiSayaAki Posts: 3
    edited 28.10.2014
    I think my question is getting misunderstood, but at the same time I think I got my answer.

    I was trying to figure out if when you increase the training intensity if you get the bonus repeatedly. For example my training areas are all level 3, and the lowest amount of horseshoes is 20 which is 2 points + 3 Bonus. So if I increase it to 40 horseshoes, would it be 4 points + 6 bonus.

    Sorry if that sounds confusing haha. I've just been wasting time training 20 horseshoes an hour to get the most out of the bonus and make my horseshoes last longer. I'm in no rush if there's no profit yet :p
  • snork (INT1)snork (INT1) Posts: 518
    edited 28.10.2014
    That's actually a good question.
    I've been wasting days in training with no wins as well, despite always using hundreds of horseshoes. Initially I wanted to do it like you, but all the losing got too frustrating. I should have stuck to my own suggestion of doing nothing, since doing all I can (ie. train) makes no difference (since losing doesn't get me the gold shoes to upgrade).
  • Andy128 (RU1)Andy128 (RU1) RU1 Posts: 2,526
    edited 28.10.2014
    SayaAki wrote: »
    I think my question is getting misunderstood, but at the same time I think I got my answer.

    I was trying to figure out if when you increase the training intensity if you get the bonus repeatedly. For example my training areas are all level 3, and the lowest amount of horseshoes is 20 which is 2 points + 3 Bonus. So if I increase it to 40 horseshoes, would it be 4 points + 6 bonus.

    We get bonus for the training round, it doesn't matter what amount of horseshoes you use.
    So it's 40 horseshoes = 4 points + 3 bonus.
    SayaAki wrote: »
    Sorry if that sounds confusing haha. I've just been wasting time training 20 horseshoes an hour to get the most out of the bonus and make my horseshoes last longer. I'm in no rush if there's no profit yet :p

    Nice strategy :)
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