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Update Sep 22th - Island farm improvements and more

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  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 20.09.2014
    Thelma4 wrote: »
    Thanks Jiesta - it's nice to read a positive post. Good grief it was getting pretty clamorous in here! I liked the island, I was sad to see it go but at the same time I've also built up all my other farms and it's nice to start a new one every once in a while.

    I overspent on gold last time so lesson learned. It'll be fun to see the enhancements on this next go-around and I'll have to take it much slower because I'm a bit low on funds. So what - it's just a game!!

    No thanks and agreed Thelma, it is just a game! ;)

    Sometimes I get annoyed by all the negativity/whining/complaining and "Iwanna-Iwanna-Iwanna's" and most of the time I just leave it be .... but I simply hate it when people keep throwing in words like "most of the players" or "most of us", etc .... So I just had to throw back a few real facts!
    Otherwise it can be so confusing for the newbies!:(
  • Pameow (AU1)Pameow (AU1) AU1 Posts: 266
    edited 20.09.2014
    snork2 wrote: »
    WTF? That's it? More rankings?

    And a changing of tasks so we can forget about previously collected info. But the rewards for rankings are meant to make as eagerly plow ahead and do it from scratch again.

    Meh.

    Pffft.

    Eloquent! Agree in full. Just make it double Pffft!
  • aylafarm (NL1)aylafarm (NL1) Posts: 5
    edited 20.09.2014
    Jiesta wrote: »
    right now you have more than 50% of the people ready to call it quits ???

    How do you know?? Please be cautious with throwing numbers all over the forums this way, when you can't be sure!! :huh:

    Facts are that this forum knows over 4 million members of which only 62,296 are active members, which means players who do actually write in the forums. And judging from the >25 Million people who are playing this game all over the world, most players seem to like it, and agree with what the developers develop for us!

    Happy farming! :)

    Just because I am playing and don't complain on the forum, doesn't mean that I agree with all the things the developers come up with. I just ignore the things I don't like.
    So if your talking about getting the numbers right, you should also not asume, that all people think alike or react in the same way.
  • edited 20.09.2014
    Don't be offended ayalfarm. That stuff is on google and anyone can access those same figures and throw them out into the forum. Doesn't mean it is true. And could be that "a lot of players" ( like me and not to be confused with "most players") are just waiting to use up what gold we bought and farm cash we have so we can leave the game without feeling much more guilty about the gold we stupidly bought.
  • mrgreenjeansmrgreenjeans Posts: 29
    edited 20.09.2014
    Translation for almost every forum post: Whine, whine, whine, make things easy, give us free stuff, bitch, bitch, bitch.... I'm taking my ball and going home!
  • meems140 (US1)meems140 (US1) US1 Posts: 10
    edited 20.09.2014
    Still not sold on the island. I like the idea of knowing what we can get with the horseshoes. I feel like that is a pig in a poke. Also,, please have the boat STOP wanting island fruits! The island has been gone for awhile and it still wants that stuff, so can't send boat off as often.
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 20.09.2014
    Translation for almost every forum post: Whine, whine, whine, make things easy, give us free stuff

    So I guess we should all be sheep to be driven in whatever direction the company wishes? What you call whining, I call legitimate complaints.
  • mrgreenjeansmrgreenjeans Posts: 29
    edited 20.09.2014
    So I guess we should all be sheep to be driven in whatever direction the company wishes? What you call whining, I call legitimate complaints.

    I was responding (jokingly) to a deleted (funny) post. I think there are legitimate complaints but there is a big difference between posting a complaint or suggestion on the appropriate forum vs constant negativity about every single update that doesn't give you exactly what you want every single time. People who say they refuse to buy gold are the same ones constantly "threatening" to leave the game. Who cares?
  • Yon Beast (US1)Yon Beast (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 20.09.2014
    well I have no problem whining!

    WHY CAN"T WE BUY SEEDS??

    It makes ZERO sense why GG would spend so much time and effort to get the user to spend their excess gold and cash on the island and then chop them off at the knees.

    OPEN the seed vendor, you fools!
  • mrgreenjeansmrgreenjeans Posts: 29
    edited 20.09.2014
    Yon Beast wrote: »
    well I have no problem whining!

    WHY CAN"T WE BUY SEEDS??

    It makes ZERO sense why GG would spend so much time and effort to get the user to spend their excess gold and cash on the island and then chop them off at the knees.

    OPEN the seed vendor, you fools!

    LOL, I hear ya. I'm out of shells anyway so I wouldn't be able to buy seeds. If it was all about the money though they could add a gold option for the seeds. I thought they would when this whole thing started. Imagine the complaints then... damned if they do, damned if they don't.
  • Jinxy (INT1)Jinxy (INT1) INT1 Posts: 165
    edited 20.09.2014
    Lol,@kbahr007, too bad you deleted your post, I really liked your translation. ;)

    Anyway, I like the game, I liked the island as well. I'm still a low level player and as fun as it was - the island really wasn't (and still isn't) meant for low level players, so I'll be giving it a wide, wide berth the next few times it comes along. I have enough trouble trying to find the time to complete smaller events as it is (why is Piggles having a cold again at the same time I'm still collecting cranes for Daniel? Sigh.)

    But I just wanted to comment on those 'few real facts' mentioned earlier... Basically what it comes down to: during last 2 years over 4 million people managed to hit the forum button ingame and thus registered. Less than 1,5% of those people actually bothered to post at some point. So now they're all considered as 'active members'. Lol!!

    I agree that no one should make statements like 'most players hate this or that' or 'more than 50% players ready to quit' and whatnot, because that's just silly. But forum statistics are also in no way representative of what the majority of players like or dislike. Particularly when so few of them come to the forum and express their thoughts and opinions.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 20.09.2014
    Huh. I agree with the overall "meh" reaction to the island "update"... top 5? I can't even get that with the wheel of fortune. So unrealistic that it's the same as nothing. Sorry, but it's true.

    I enjoyed parts of the island, but once you're in it it's hard to get out of it without spending a lot of money just so you get some results back for your expense. I spent most of 40,000 gold (I had saved up & bought some just before the event) and probably $30million and I only got to chapter 2 step 4 - playing every day for several hours. Granted I was level 54 (I think?) but if the island was 'designed for level 100' players (paraphrasing b/c I don't know if that was ever officially stated) then don't unlock it until then. Otherwise it's just frustrating.

    The sandcastle I won for chapter 1 is cute and looks nice in my playground area on the flower farm, but if all the island offers next time is more pricey quests and vague "residential housing" and rankings that won't be relevant to me I will probably skip it. I saved most of my shells from the first time and will just buy seeds when the truck rolls around again.

    I did miss the island a little bit when it first went away but now I'm back on my other three farms with a lot to do and actually feel like I am accomplishing things rather than just chasing my tail to spend a lot of money.

    I hope the horse farm will be better... *fingers crossed*
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 20.09.2014
    The irony of some of this is... the top 5 players could probably care less about a pig sty....

    The houses sound great. A way to improve your manpower without Gold? Yes you have to invest $$ and Time, but that's the trade off for Gold. This part of the update has been largely ignored in the comments, and its possibly the most important. The top/gold players get a new building, and/or new decos. The rest get a way to improve their housing with a little hard work INSTEAD of using GOLD to buy Fancy houses. Why is there no cheering from the non-gold using community?

    -Y
  • DeeFarmerDeeFarmer Posts: 3
    edited 20.09.2014
    The island farm is way to expensive for me and I'd just assume not do it again. I don't have very may shells anyway, so of course I don't get the bonus when sending my ship out. I'm much more interested in the Horse Farm. Have been collecting the horseshoes, but not sure how many we will actually need for when the Horse Farm starts up and to get it going. Would also like to know or at least get an idea as to when the Horse Farm will be ready and begin. But so much on the Island farm anymore. Lost interest in that one real quick. Can you at least give us some ideas as to when the Horse Farm will start and what it will be like and things that will be needed and how it will work so we will all have an idea? Thanks!
  • writegirlwritegirl Posts: 8
    edited 20.09.2014
    So legitimately criticizing the game=I'm whining because it doesn't give me what I want?

    I can understand there are some people who don't like something and some who do, but it seems that the positivity police has to put down the people talking about the game.

    In other words, the "gripers" keep it about the game while the "Positive" people feel the need to tell others how they should post and what they should say and how seeing anything negative goes against their delicate sensibilities. Interesting. That's what I find annoying.

    It's a legitimate complaint when you know tons of people complain about how expensive the island is. How it's a lot of output for little reward, etc. Then GG puts a smile on their face and tries to pretend a ranking system is what we asked for, when it's clear to me, from what I see people saying, that nobody asked for a ranking system. We wanted the cost to come down. I'm not making an assumption here. I'm basing it on what I see in actual feedback from actual people.

    As for people being active, so they're "happy," that is just as an erroneous assumption as the other side of the equation. I talk to a lot of people who are "active" members who do not understand the rhyme to GG's reason. Their claims that they listen to us, when many of the things I've seen requested over and over and over, are ignored. There are many people "actively" married who are miserable. There are many people "actively" working who hate their jobs. Just because all of us are working, doesn't mean we go skipping to work with a song in our hearts.

    When I see a flawed system, I talk about it. When, and if, I see GG respond to totally reasonable requests, then I'll eat my words.

    Until then, I have the right to discuss when I see something going into a decline. When I see people who were formerly happy with the game, who poured much of their hard-earned REAL cash into a game, talk about how they are now asked to throw away everything they've spent money on in favor of another thing GG wants them to spend their money on.

    I am positive when I see positive things. When I feel a company cares about people. I am the first one to notify managers when I receive good service, so the employee is rewarded. I will write good reviews and recommend services and establishments to people I feel care about the customer.

    But when I feel the customer is being fed garbage and being told it's honey, I will point that out as well.
  • JustMe (AU1)JustMe (AU1) Posts: 170
    edited 20.09.2014
    If I knew more about horse farm or had gotten to use it before island came back I might be more excited about island. I wasn't that thrilled the first island visit, but I played it. After a few days I was bored with the excessive cost vs. reward and felt I was neglecting my game because very little advancements on rest of farm. Hard to lvl up w/o exp pts. It was bad enough that gourmet farm land prices jumped in price after that revamp, a change that put many players behind there. Now we get to go blindfolded to the island again and pin our money on the wall to see if we hit the mark yet again.
  • Yon Beast (US1)Yon Beast (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 21.09.2014
    kudos writegirl
  • wen (NL1)wen (NL1) NL1 Posts: 36
    edited 21.09.2014
    Jiesta,

    I am al level over the 100 and I had a lot of dollars the last time for the eiland. No I lost 150 mil on the islands. So I do not have that money again. If you think we earne miljons and miljons verrry vast than you are wrong. Sinds they have changed the 2farm every thing hase changed. We don't earne so much dollars any more. Like a said before give us a number of horshoese we needed are BF is losing members because of it. And the flowerfarm have you seen the prices of the ups it is redicelus. And than you think we are swimming in are dollars.
  • writegirlwritegirl Posts: 8
    edited 21.09.2014
    Yon Beast wrote: »
    kudos writegirl

    Thanks, Yon.

    I just call it as I see it. Though I doubt it will make any difference. As long as there's new players , I doubt there's a huge concern about people who've been playing a while.
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 21.09.2014
    wen4 wrote: »
    Jiesta,

    I am al level over the 100 and I had a lot of dollars the last time for the eiland. No I lost 150 mil on the islands. So I do not have that money again. If you think we earne miljons and miljons verrry vast than you are wrong. Sinds they have changed the 2farm every thing hase changed. We don't earne so much dollars any more. Like a said before give us a number of horshoese we needed are BF is losing members because of it. And the flowerfarm have you seen the prices of the ups it is redicelus. And than you think we are swimming in are dollars.

    I am sorry you feel that way but I just experienced things differently, so I don't agree. :S

    I have experienced that if one's strategy is right one can make a lot of farm dollars as from level 40/45. And since the Gourmet Revamp I've made even far more farm dollars than ever before! All I had to do was change my strategy according to the revamp. Right now I have 280 million and still counting... So for me (as for many others) the temporary island event was/is a godsend! Finally something new where I can spend my many dollars on and finally a new challenge to break my head over!
    Experienced players already confirmed in the forum that the island event was doable without using gold for some 100 million dollars; and I will certainly play it again next time!

    And as for the horse ranch. Well, the surprise factor has always been a big part of this game, GGS doesn't tell us everything previously, that's all in the game! And this is fine with me - I do not need to know everything on beforehand - I simply much more prefer to figure out things myself (as befits a game imo).

    As from the very start of the island event it was obvious that one's main goal had to be to gain as much shells as one possibly could. So I did and today I am still sending my ship away with 6 full loads. And now I wait patiently for the next surprise. Will the shell trader come back? Will - according to the "Racing Farmer" - the paddock really be the next thing or will the temporary farm come back first; and will the ships menu reset?? I know for myself I have figured out my answers already, and as always just eager to see whether I am right!

    Happy farming! :)
  • bøffe (SKN1)bøffe (SKN1) Posts: 383
    edited 21.09.2014
    Well spoken Jiesta :)

    I totally agree, I would stop playing, if there wasn't new challenges.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    edited 21.09.2014
    I would also stop playing if there were no new challenges but 100 million farmdollars spent on an island event that gets demolished after 30 days isnt a challenge.....its a waste. Its even worse when we have no real information about the horse ranch, the number of horse shoes needed and the rewards we will get for using them. Many people bought gold with real money and worked hard to complete the island event thinking there would be a reward (the horse ranch) at the end of it.......what did we end up with? Another ranking system and false claims that its what we asked for........maybe someone needs to put a poll up in regards to the island and we will take a look at what players really want instead of having our intelligence questioned with the false claims about feedback.
  • edited 21.09.2014
    Since the Update is about the Island round 2, I have acomment about the threads on the forum for Round 2.
    I noticed that with the 1st run of the Island,there were many, many threads about the Island in Questions about theGame. Many of the titles did not clearlyexplain what the thread was to be about and there was a whole lot of repetition. It got a bit confusing as to where to lookfor, go back to, or post what I wanted. Howmany threads about the Island should I post the info I have or quesion to? How many do I have to look through to go backand find a post I’m looking for?

    Do you think we could have just one thread for All QuestionsAbout The Island Round 2? I would preferthis. Or can the Players and Moderators help to at least adjust the thread titles to make themclearer? For all the threads? There is plenty of room to clearly state whatyour thread is about. I know players can edit their own posts, can we edit our own titles too?

    Also, about the Horse Ranch. In the 2nd Birthday E-mail, it said it would be availablefrom Level 16. Since the Island is notavailable until Level 30, I’m hopeful that we can have some fun with the Horseranch without having millions and millions of shells to do it. Players under Level 30, still get horseshoesfrom the ship for their farm products.

    I don't need a ranking system, just bring the costs down. Whydid this update come out so soon when the Island is not expected for weeks?

  • Ria_ ()Ria_ () Posts: 280
    edited 21.09.2014
    I don't like competion, it's that word that gives me a bad feeling about the paddock. I'm looking forward to the hawaii themed house and the new decos, but I'm a bit worried that those decos will be even harder to get than sandcastles as they sound like something designed to get people to play island again despite having completed it once. Last time I started playing island because I thought that playing actively that 30 days on my other farms would get me close to the point I would just be waiting the architech, so why not use those 30 days on the island. It proved to be too hard to be fun (I eventually got all sandcastles by sitting in front of computer more than I really wanted, I just didn't want to give up as I got too close). Now they have just given more reason to play it instead making it more playable.

    Also when will the shelltrader be back? He was supposed to visit between islands right? I'd like to get some seeds as I saved shells to be able to buy them.
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 21.09.2014
    Since the Update is about the Island round 2, I have acomment about the threads on the forum for Round 2.
    I noticed that with the 1st run of the Island,there were many, many threads about the Island in Questions about theGame. Many of the titles did not clearlyexplain what the thread was to be about and there was a whole lot of repetition. It got a bit confusing as to where to lookfor, go back to, or post what I wanted. Howmany threads about the Island should I post the info I have or quesion to? How many do I have to look through to go backand find a post I’m looking for?

    Do you think we could have just one thread for All QuestionsAbout The Island Round 2? I would preferthis. Or can the Players and Moderators help to at least adjust the thread titles to make themclearer? For all the threads? There is plenty of room to clearly state whatyour thread is about. I know players can edit their own posts, can we edit our own titles too?

    Also, about the Horse Ranch. In the 2nd Birthday E-mail, it said it would be availablefrom Level 16. Since the Island is notavailable until Level 30, I’m hopeful that we can have some fun with the Horseranch without having millions and millions of shells to do it. Players under Level 30, still get horseshoesfrom the ship for their farm products.

    I don't need a ranking system, just bring the costs down. Whydid this update come out so soon when the Island is not expected for weeks?


    I hear you Crafty Critters!
    It is indeed very annoying that so many players believe they have to open a new thread every single time they want to write something. Experienced players have asked multiple times not to do that, but it appears to be a lost battle asking people to use the thread that already exists... For some obscure reason people don't seem to be wanting to search for the right thread and/or read threads and posts properly... (laziness perhaps?)

    It is indeed terribly confusing for newbies (but in the end for all players) and the mods work their heads off to merge posts all the time and move posts to the right thread! ;(
  • tampoon (INT1)tampoon (INT1) Posts: 197
    edited 21.09.2014
    I played the island farm with limited involvement, spent over 30mil and finished task 2. It took me nearly one whole month to earn back what I had paid.
    What we were hoping for, besides getting new and worthy decos, was to save horse shoes for the horse ranch.
    We really need to know the worthiness of these horse shoes before deciding how much to commit in the island farm again.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 21.09.2014
    @Latten/Nafaru: there was picture of 2 new machines in the last email I got from bigfarm, what are those 2 machines and when they gonna be released? thanks in advance.
  • snork (INT1)snork (INT1) Posts: 518
    edited 21.09.2014
    Jiesta wrote: »
    I hear you Crafty Critters!
    It is indeed very annoying that so many players believe they have to open a new thread every single time they want to write something. Experienced players have asked multiple times not to do that, but it appears to be a lost battle asking people to use the thread that already exists... For some obscure reason people don't seem to be wanting to search for the right thread and/or read threads and posts properly... (laziness perhaps?)

    It is indeed terribly confusing for newbies (but in the end for all players) and the mods work their heads off to merge posts all the time and move posts to the right thread! ;(

    One girl repeatedly stated she knew about the other threads but she wanted to be noticed so she started new ones. It didn't use to be so bad though, usually there's just the discussion post and one big question post (with hundreds of small specialised ones that one can ignore more easily).


    Not wanting to start a new post myself, I have to ask here: what to do if one did not get the email? Not even in spam, where it usually is??
  • DG312DG312 Posts: 28
    edited 21.09.2014
    Oh joy, the island farm is back.

    I'll pass this time; it's just way too expensive.

    Why not get the horse stable up and running first so we can spend the horseshoes we already have, rather than us winding up with more and more but no idea if or when we'll be able to cash them in?
  • draakje3 (NL1)draakje3 (NL1) Posts: 3
    edited 21.09.2014
    Is it this time possible to do the 3 chapters without using gold, otherwise i am not very interested.
    It cost only al lot of dollars an with a little luck you can reach the second chapter but not finish it.
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