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The Boat -and Co-op concerns about boat prices

shoestring2shoestring2 Posts: 66
You encourage us to join co-ops, and we put a lot of effort and cash into researches which return our investment with better prices for our goods.

Now we have the boat dropping by to buy our goods at prices much better than the farm shop.
And it would appear that everyone is offered the same prices, co-op member or not.
At present it is just 2/3 boats a day, but you hint that this side of the game will develop further.

If so, what incentive will there be for co-ops to continue, when the farm shop becomes uncompetitive?
Surely the percentage advantages won by the co-ops should also be applied to sales to the boat.

I would be interested to hear other player’s thoughts on the subject.
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  • rhon (GB1)rhon (GB1) Guest, GB1 Posts: 1,542
    edited 11.06.2014
    So far I have completely fulfilled every ship order from my barns and I am still selling excess production at the enhanced co-op researched rates. So no conflict for me, I still want the researched prices.

    Also, for me the co-op is fun, and sociable. We have a good blether about the most diverse topics. I like my co-op and being part of it. The higher prices are not the major incentive for me to be in it

    So, no, I don't begrudge that those who choose to not be in a co-op are getting the same price as me for a very small proportion of my production
  • shoestring2shoestring2 Posts: 66
    edited 11.06.2014
    Hi Samty, I agree with everything you say, I too enjoy the sociable aspects of the co-op, but if this trend continues then I think co-op effort should be rewarded. And perhaps now, at the start of this development, it is the time to point this out. :-)
  • Shilo87 (US1)Shilo87 (US1) Posts: 22
    edited 11.06.2014
    Yes I agree shoe string
    .
    Hi Samty, I agree with everything you say, I too enjoy the sociable aspects of the co-op, but if this trend continues then I think co-op effort should be rewarded. And perhaps now, at the start of this development, it is the time to point this out. :-)
    Our coop has worked very hard on research. Our Milk prices are awesome. Our pig prices is nearly competitive to the boat. I really think those alliances who have done a lot of research should get higher prices from boat.
    USA sells beef to other countries 5xs what we buy it for. That is how exporting should be.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 11.06.2014
    No conflict for me either. The boat doesn't take much, just a little off the top. At least, if you're a high level. I would make tons more money if I was at a co-op with more researches done.

    I fill every ship asking for something other than peaches and even a couple of those ships too. The only time I've had trouble was when it asked for more than my storage allows (I really hate that it requires a one-time dump, but I get the reasoning). Level up a bit more. Upgrade your production and soon you'll have a serious excess too.

    No guys, not an invitation to invite me to your co-ops. Please don't.
  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 11.06.2014
    You encourage us to join co-ops, and we put a lot of effort and cash into researches which return our investment with better prices for our goods.

    Now we have the boat dropping by to buy our goods at prices much better than the farm shop.
    And it would appear that everyone is offered the same prices, co-op member or not.
    At present it is just 2/3 boats a day, but you hint that this side of the game will develop further.

    If so, what incentive will there be for co-ops to continue, when the farm shop becomes uncompetitive?
    Surely the percentage advantages won by the co-ops should also be applied to sales to the boat.

    I would be interested to hear other player’s thoughts on the subject.



    Are you saying that if your in a coop that your clicks require more work or your gold cost more then a non coop player? non coop players pay gold and work hard on their farms!! if anything they work harder for their farm dollars because they don't get the pricing afforded to those in a coop for doing the same work and working their farms. Now the boat comes along and GGS offers some perks for those who can not or chose not to be in a coop and your gonna complain and say what a minute, shouldn't we coops be getting a better rate then the non coop players on this boat deal!! oh and GGS since when do coops get the same rate as a non coop player?..well GGS lets just put this on the table before you move further along with this boat thing!!
    WOW!!! that is not only stingy but offensive to those who are not in a coop...WOW!!
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 11.06.2014
    I don't see why it's so offensive that a coop member should get a discount. It just seems like a lot of work to be asking for it. And it seems presumptuous to be demanding or expecting it. If GGS decides to give coops a discount, I see nothing wrong with that. Anyone who wants to can just spend a little gold and create their own little coop to get the discount. Why not? There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from being in a coop, it's just a little more work and expense for some than others.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 11.06.2014
    I don't se any problem in that both co-op members an non co-op players get the same prices from the boat?
    Yesterday the boat want some wild flowers from me.
    I think it was 363 wild flowers, and I got 7000 dollars for them!
    - normal price for wild flowers is 1 dollar per piece, whatever you are in a co-op or not, because there is no research for wildflowers.
    - and there's not either research for corn, cabbage and wheat, which all are things the boat also sometimes want.
    Why should players outside a co-op not have same price from the boat for these things as co-op players get?

    Try to accept there is players who best like playing the game alone in that speed they like, whitout feel them forced to do researching an projects.

    In

    Those who says "all players must be i a co-op", or else they must have lower prices from the boat that co-op players, will be similar to saying to me:"Brian, beacuse you are a very active player, you may not be in a co-op which not is in the top10 ranking list, else you can not get the same price from the boat as those players who are in at top10 ranked co-op"


    Post edited by Kat Nip: Merged posts, please use the edit button
  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 11.06.2014
    I don't see why it's so offensive that a coop member should get a discount. It just seems like a lot of work to be asking for it. And it seems presumptuous to be demanding or expecting it. If GGS decides to give coops a discount, I see nothing wrong with that. Anyone who wants to can just spend a little gold and create their own little coop to get the discount. Why not? There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from being in a coop, it's just a little more work and expense for some than others.


    It was the condescending attitude that coops work hard and pay gold therefore deserve to get a better rate then non coop players..who also pay gold and work even harder for their farm dollars by the way. Look i get offering perks for coops to entice membership, but in this case being condescending in the "why" they think they deserve it i don't get. Also, you have to remember, there are players in this game who do not want to be apart of a coop or maybe can't..soo there has to be some kind of leveling field for those players to be competitive as well when it comes to earnings and rankings alike.

  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 11.06.2014
    That wasn't the attitude. They were saying players work hard and pay gold for really awesome co-ops. There was nothing in there that referenced those who don't have co-ops. The player was merely saying that the boat seems like a short-cut making all his previous co-op effort completely worthless.

    Which as has been said repeatedly by players with big, profitable farms, is not true.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    edited 12.06.2014
    This is the reason why I think the rewards need to be changed. Keep the XP rewards and change the dollar rewards for something different like event seeds, collectibles, premium feeds, super fert and humus etc. It will benefit the player in the long run by increasing production and profit on their farms.
  • edited 12.06.2014
    does anyone know what level you need to be on for the ship to become available?
  • GenuineJodiGenuineJodi Posts: 20
    edited 12.06.2014
    Boat is an amazing update and has absolutely nothing to do with the co-op.
    Been a long time since 've said that about any update...
    I must be slipping.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 12.06.2014
    Sorry Bonnie, no idea. I'm level 74, so the fact that I have it says absolutely nothing, but I'm guessing since your level is higher you're just asking so you can inform other players? I'll ask around my co-op, find out who has the ship and who doesn't.
  • rhinanarhinana Posts: 561
    edited 12.06.2014
    does anyone know what level you need to be on for the ship to become available?

    My WWW farm got the boat somewhere around the level 15 mark.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 12.06.2014
    That's good news. Maybe it's accessible to everyone. Do you know if low levels are asked to provide goods they can't produce yet? In quantities they aren't able to even upgrade to yet?
  • rhinanarhinana Posts: 561
    edited 12.06.2014
    That's good news. Maybe it's accessible to everyone. Do you know if low levels are asked to provide goods they can't produce yet? In quantities they aren't able to even upgrade to yet?

    I haven't noticed anything too extreme. My boat always seems to ask for the same things on my level 17 farm, probably because the variety is limited on only one farm. I've probably only sent a full boat out 50% of the time. Everything certainly is achievable, but harder with the low level.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 12.06.2014
    Okay, cool. Thanks for the info.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 12.06.2014
    does anyone know what level you need to be on for the ship to become available?
    rhinana wrote: »
    My WWW farm got the boat somewhere around the level 15 mark.

    If i remember correct, one of the members in my co-op on the us server got the boat when she 2 days ago reached level 17.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 12.06.2014
    The boat is only asking the products that you can produce. From the official announcement:
    Nafaru wrote: »
    The items needed for one shipment will depend on the player level and can be products from all three farms, when available.
  • Jastuchko (INT1)Jastuchko (INT1) Posts: 27
    edited 12.06.2014
    does anyone know what level you need to be on for the ship to become available?

    Boat unlocks on level 16.
  • shoestringshoestring Posts: 1
    edited 12.06.2014
    [/QUOTE]- normal price for wild flowers is 1 dollar per piece, whatever you are in a co-op or not, because there is no research for wildflowers.
    - and there's not either research for corn, cabbage and wheat, which all are things the boat also sometimes want.
    Why should players outside a co-op not have same price from the boat for these things as co-op players get?- end of quote


    You have misunderstood me . I was not suggesting that co-op members should have higher prices on everything. Just those items for which they have earned them by doing research -just as with the farm shop.
    In my co-op these things were earned with farm dollars and co-operation - not with easy gold.
  • myself22myself22 Posts: 53
    edited 12.06.2014
    As a rule I really like the boat. If I had one bad thing to say it would be when they ask for products like honey or citrus / olives .....My farm is not able to grow them as yet . Expanding takes time and I know one day i'll be able to fully load the boat . But I do wish they would ask only for product we are growing now.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 12.06.2014
    Larino wrote: »
    The boat is only asking the products that you can produce. From the official announcement:

    The items needed for one shipment will depend on the player level and can be products from all three farms, when available.


    So then not the ones that can be produced, but that their level allows them to produce. I mean, not everyone chooses to have gardens, but I'm sure they're still asked for dandelions.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 12.06.2014
    shoestring wrote: »
    You have misunderstood me . I was not suggesting that co-op members should have higher prices on everything. Just those items for which they have earned them by doing research -just as with the farm shop.
    In my co-op these things were earned with farm dollars and co-operation - not with easy gold.

    Even I'm in a co-op where I get higher prices for those things we have researched, I have no problem with the players outside the co-op's, or players in co-op's where they have lower prices than my coop, get the same earnings on the ship as I do. :)
    - And I'm happy my sho'es not is so small that I get a pain in my toes for things so small like this.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 12.06.2014
    Lol, well-said Brianno.

    I'm kinda wondering if maybe Shoestring is just taking the game too seriously and knocking him or herself out over improving the co-op? I mean, this is a game. It's supposed to be fun. If it's not, you're playing it wrong.
  • edited 12.06.2014
    thanks everyone for the info. I can now tell my lower coop leveled players who were asking.
  • awerick2awerick2 Posts: 356
    edited 12.06.2014
    WE should have ship research.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 12.06.2014
    So then not the ones that can be produced, but that their level allows them to produce. I mean, not everyone chooses to have gardens, but I'm sure they're still asked for dandelions.

    Yes, that is true. I do have a gourmet and flower farm on UK, US and Nl, but they are empty. The boat asking for donkeys, dandelions, essence of lavender and jasmine has no use and I cannot and will not supply those :) Not willing to buy. But then again those farms are not really serious farms anyway, but indeed some people can choose not to build either of those yet and also do not manage to fill up the ship fully :(
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 12.06.2014
    Hey, yeah. Ship research would be cool. It would also solve the issue that started this thread. And Idk how upper level researches are, but if it's normal for them to cost gold to start, that would be another opportunity for GGS to make money.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 12.06.2014
    Hey, yeah. Ship research would be cool. It would also solve the issue that started this thread. And Idk how upper level researches are, but if it's normal for them to cost gold to start, that would be another opportunity for GGS to make money.

    Upper researches as they are now? You could check the spreadsheet 'Research Starting Fees' maybe O : )

    http://bigfarmtips.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/spreadsheet-spoilers-and-helpful-information/

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